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* GameBreaker: Gilgamesh himself. It's mostly intentional, and already at testing his mode was known as "Hax mode". Not only his stats are higher than average already at the beginning, he has passive skills that give you additional income and drop rate from combats. his Gate of Babylon skill really hurts, and his noble phantasm, EA, instantly ends the battle, no matter who is against you.

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* GameBreaker: Gilgamesh himself. It's mostly intentional, and already at testing his mode was known as "Hax mode". Not only his stats are higher than average already at the beginning, he has passive skills that give you additional income and drop rate from combats. his His Gate of Babylon skill really hurts, and his noble phantasm, EA, instantly ends the battle, no matter who is against you.
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** For ''Fate/Extra CCC'', Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.) Many agreed that her [[AdaptationalModesty design]] in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' is ''much'' better.

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** For ''Fate/Extra CCC'', Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.) Many agreed that her [[AdaptationalModesty design]] in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' is ''much'' better. Her personality has also gained her a fair share of detractors, but considerably less so.
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* TakeThatScrappy: In the CCC continuity, instead of Vlad, Lil' Ronnie summons Elizabeth, who promptly realizes [[EveryoneHasStandards how utterly batshit crazy]] her Master is, which prompts her to kill Ronnie.

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* TakeThatScrappy: In the CCC continuity, instead of Vlad, Lil' Ronnie summons Elizabeth, who promptly realizes [[EveryoneHasStandards how utterly batshit crazy]] her Master is, which prompts her to kill Ronnie.is and promptly kills Ronnie so she can get a more reliable replacement.
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* TakeThatScrappy: In the CCC continuity, instead of Vlad, Lil' Ronnie summons Elizabeth, who promptly realizes [[EveryoneHasStandards how utterly batshit crazy]] her Master is and then kills her.

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* TakeThatScrappy: In the CCC continuity, instead of Vlad, Lil' Ronnie summons Elizabeth, who promptly realizes [[EveryoneHasStandards how utterly batshit crazy]] her Master is and then kills her.is, which prompts her to kill Ronnie.
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* TakeThatScrappy: In the CCC continuity, instead of Vlad, Lil' Ronnie summons Elizabeth, who promptly realizes [[EveryoneHasStandards how utterly batshit crazy]] her Master is and then kills her.
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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view. Following this, a reason why Hakuno would be able to summon Enkidu in the first place in the Gilgamesh route could be attributed to the fact that [[YouRemindMeOfX Hakuno's struggles parallels Enkidu's]] and Enkidu responded to Hakuno as a result.

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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view. Following this, a reason why Hakuno would be able to summon Enkidu in the first place in the Gilgamesh route could be attributed to the fact that [[YouRemindMeOfX Hakuno's struggles parallels Enkidu's]] and Enkidu responded to Hakuno as a result.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Fate Extra's Shinji. His Fate Stay Night counterpart, while not exactly someone on TheScrappy level, is such a HateSink with irredeemable character traits. Many fans and players alike find Fate Extra's Shinji to be a much better characterization of Shinji for being nicer and [[spoiler:and were sad at his HeroicSacrifice in CCC]]. These actions made him far more likable than his Fate Stay Night counterpart as a result.
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** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most memorable characters in CCC because he's a middle-aged man with voice to match, who gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shit talk ''everyone'', even '''Gilgamesh''', [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious.

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** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most memorable characters in CCC because he's a middle-aged man with a voice to match, who gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shit talk ''everyone'', even '''Gilgamesh''', [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious.



* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.
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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.
view. Following this, a reason why Hakuno would be able to summon Enkidu in the first place in the Gilgamesh route could be attributed to the fact that [[YouRemindMeOfX Hakuno's struggles parallels Enkidu's]] and Enkidu responded to Hakuno as a result.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: According to the "Secret Garden" event and supplementary materials, the Lancer Servant from ''Fate/Extra CCC''' was born on May 17, but the real life [[spoiler:Elizabeth Báthory]]'s birthday was August 7.
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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG's and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.

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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started, started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG's SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.



** For Male Hakuno it's Hakuno/Caster. Male Hakuno/Gilgamesh also has a following in Japan, as does Male Hakuno/Saber.

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** For Male Hakuno it's Hakuno/Caster. he is commonly paired with the playable Caster. Male Hakuno/Gilgamesh also has a following in Japan, as does Male Hakuno/Saber.Hakuno/Red Saber.



** Given the gameplay, this can be justified - considering the game has many ways of royally screwing your playthrough up. Having the King of Heroes as a servant with such capabilities are more often than not a godsend. To quote a Niconico Douga commenter on the battle with the TrueFinalBoss:

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** Given the gameplay, this can be justified - considering that the game has many ways of royally screwing up your playthrough up.playthrough. Having the King of Heroes as a servant with such capabilities are more often than not a godsend. To quote a Niconico Douga commenter on the battle with the TrueFinalBoss:



** Gawain, for [[http://i.imgur.com/GM5Ls.png being a real dick to all three playable Servants]], historical accuracy be damned.

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** Gawain, for [[http://i.imgur.com/GM5Ls.png being a real dick to all three playable Servants]], historical accuracy be damned. Plus his near blind loyalty to Leo [[spoiler:influenced by his MyGreatestFailure regarding Camelot]] often got into the nerves of some players and watchers alike. Like Passionlip, many agreed that Gawain's characterization in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap is much better]] than his Extra counterpart.

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** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most remembered character in CCC because he, a middle-aged man with voice to match, gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shittalk ''everyone'', even Gilgamesh, [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious.

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** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most remembered character memorable characters in CCC because he, he's a middle-aged man with voice to match, who gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shittalk shit talk ''everyone'', even Gilgamesh, '''Gilgamesh''', [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious. hilarious.



* FridgeBrilliance: Why does Alice's Caster's [[spoiler:Reality Marble cause a LossOfIdentity? Because Caster, whose form changes depending on who summons her, has no identity of her own]]!
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** [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Despite the amount of ships she has]], the most popular ship for Female Hakuno is Gilgamesh/Hakuno (which was shipped even ''before'' Gilgamesh was added).

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** [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Despite the amount of ships she has]], the most popular ship for Female Hakuno is Gilgamesh/Hakuno (which was shipped even ''before'' Gilgamesh was added). What got most people shipping Hakuno with Gilgamesh is that Hakuno brought out the best of Gilgamesh as a character and they both grow together in their CharacterDevelopment as the game progresses.
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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker and some fanworks went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's servant who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's SG's and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.

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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker and some fanworks fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG's and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.
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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be a Berserker version of Enkidu. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker and some fanworks went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's servant who is said to be of the Berserker Class.

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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be a Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker version variant of Enkidu.him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker and some fanworks went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's servant who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's SG's and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Everyone and their mum loves Karna.

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Everyone and their mum loves Karna.Karna.
** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most remembered character in CCC because he, a middle-aged man with voice to match, gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shittalk ''everyone'', even Gilgamesh, [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious.
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* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in CCC's version of the near side story if you chose Gilgamesh is thought to be a Berserker version of Enkidu. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with Gilgamesh saying that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker and some fanworks went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's servant who is said to be of the Berserker Class.
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If referring to skill, I doubt Jinako is worse than Stay Night Shinji. If referring to popularity, again, doubt she's as hated as Stay Night Shinji.


** A common question raised by fans is who would win between Gilgamesh and Karna. The game ''almost'' answers this because [[spoiler: Karna is suffering from ''two'' [[DramaPreservingHandicap Drama Preserving Handicaps]] due to not having his armor and having the worst Master in the franchise, and Gilgamesh has yet to reveal Ea when they fight.]]

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** A common question raised by fans is who would win between Gilgamesh and Karna. The game ''almost'' answers this because [[spoiler: Karna is suffering from ''two'' [[DramaPreservingHandicap Drama Preserving Handicaps]] due to not having his armor and having the worst Master in the franchise, a bad master, and Gilgamesh has yet to reveal Ea when they fight.]]
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* SignatureSong: Nero's take on the Jingle Bells song.
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** For ''Fate/Extra CCC'', Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.)

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** For ''Fate/Extra CCC'', Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.)) Many agreed that her [[AdaptationalModesty design]] in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' is ''much'' better.
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* YouShouldKnowThisAlready: [[spoiler: That one of the Berserker class servants is [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Arc]] and that the bonus boss is [[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Shiki]].]]
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: By none other than Creator/ShinjiHosoe.

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* %%* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: By none other than Creator/ShinjiHosoe.
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* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: [[spoiler: Twice Pierceman]] as a final boss, who had no build up besides being the NarratorAllAlong and having a giant InfoDump to justify his existence in the scene he's introduced, just before you fight him.
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** [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Despite the amount of ships she has]], the most popular ship for FEM!Hakuno is Gilgamesh/Hakuno (which was shipped even ''before'' Gilgamesh was added).
** For MALE!Hakuno it's Hakuno/Caster. Male Hakuno/Gilgamesh also has a following in Japan, as does Male Hakuno/Saber.

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** [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Despite the amount of ships she has]], the most popular ship for FEM!Hakuno Female Hakuno is Gilgamesh/Hakuno (which was shipped even ''before'' Gilgamesh was added).
** For MALE!Hakuno Male Hakuno it's Hakuno/Caster. Male Hakuno/Gilgamesh also has a following in Japan, as does Male Hakuno/Saber.



** After the game was launched, shippers started shipping [[FanPreferredCouple FEM!Hakuno/Gilgamesh]] or even [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight the small but existent]] FEM!Hakuno/[[LightNovel/{{FateApocrypha}} Karna]]. Some time later, ''CCC'' came and ''both'' [[IKnewIt Gilgamesh and Karna were added, as a playable Servant and an enemy Servant respectively]].

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** After the game was launched, shippers started shipping [[FanPreferredCouple FEM!Hakuno/Gilgamesh]] Female Hakuno/Gilgamesh]] or even [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight the small but existent]] FEM!Hakuno/[[LightNovel/{{FateApocrypha}} Female Hakuno/[[LightNovel/{{FateApocrypha}} Karna]]. Some time later, ''CCC'' came and ''both'' [[IKnewIt Gilgamesh and Karna were added, as a playable Servant and an enemy Servant respectively]].
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* GeniusBonus / BilingualBonus: Red Saber calls her master "Sousha," in game this is translated as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetor Praetor]], however a literal translation would be [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html Player]], as in one who plays music in theatre. [[spoiler: Musical theatre being something of an obsession of hers.]]

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* GeniusBonus / BilingualBonus: GeniusBonus: Red Saber calls her master "Sousha," in game this is translated as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetor Praetor]], however a literal translation would be [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html Player]], as in one who plays music in theatre. [[spoiler: Musical theatre being something of an obsession of hers.]]

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: By none other than Creator/ShinjiHosoe.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: By none other than Creator/ShinjiHosoe.



** [[CrowningMomentOfFunny Archer immediately recommends retreating.]]

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** [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Archer immediately recommends retreating.]]
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** '''PADORU PADORU'''[[note]]In "Teach me, Blossom-sensei!", Saber enters the Nurse's Office wearing a Santa Outfit and [[StylisticSuck singing Jingle Bells in an over-the-top manner]].[[/note]]

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** '''PADORU PADORU'''[[note]]In '''[[NoIndoorVoice PADORU PADORU]]'''[[note]]In "Teach me, Blossom-sensei!", Saber enters the Nurse's Office wearing a Santa Outfit and [[StylisticSuck singing Jingle Bells in an over-the-top manner]].[[/note]]
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** For Fate/Extra CCC, Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.)

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** For Fate/Extra CCC, ''Fate/Extra CCC'', Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.)



* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: A common criticism of the original game was that it was a watered down {{VideoGame/Persona 3}} with VisualNovel/FateStayNight characters and concepts. The fact that two ex-ATLUS employees worked on the game didn't help either. It wasn't until ''CCC'' that the series really carved out its own identity.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: A common criticism of the original game was that it was a watered down {{VideoGame/Persona 3}} with VisualNovel/FateStayNight ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' characters and concepts. The fact that two ex-ATLUS employees worked on the game didn't help either. It wasn't until ''CCC'' that the series really carved out its own identity.
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** For Fate/Extra CCC, Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that Extra wasn't ecchi enough like Fate/Stay Night was.

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** For Fate/Extra CCC, Passionlip received flak based entirely on her physical design. It's mostly on the fact that in the original Extra, the game had fairly good and interesting character designs. Passionlip to many represents a blatant attempt at appeasing the people who felt that Extra ''Extra'' wasn't ecchi enough like Fate/Stay Night was.compared to ''Fate/stay night''. (Now, this ends up being a large part of the ''point'', but first impressions still count for a lot.)



* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Some people see this game as a watered down {{VideoGame/Persona 3}} with VisualNovel/FateStayNight characters and concepts. The fact that two ex-ATLUS employees worked on the game doesn't help either.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Some people see this A common criticism of the original game as was that it was a watered down {{VideoGame/Persona 3}} with VisualNovel/FateStayNight characters and concepts. The fact that two ex-ATLUS employees worked on the game doesn't didn't help either.either. It wasn't until ''CCC'' that the series really carved out its own identity.
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* BrokenBase: The excessive fanservice in CCC (see FetishRetardant). Split between the people who love it (as it was definitely geared towards them) and the people who hate it (for looking ridiculous and offputting), and the people who understand how it's meant to tie into the wider themes of the story and just roll with it for what it is.

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* BrokenBase: The excessive fanservice in CCC (see FetishRetardant). Split between the people who love it (as it was definitely geared towards them) and them), the people who hate it (for looking ridiculous and offputting), and the people who understand how it's meant to tie into the wider themes of the story and just roll with it for what it is.
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* BrokenBase: The excessive fanservice in CCC (see FetishRetardant). Split between the people who love it (as it was definitely geared towards them) and the people who hate it (for looking ridiculous and offputting).

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* BrokenBase: The excessive fanservice in CCC (see FetishRetardant). Split between the people who love it (as it was definitely geared towards them) and the people who hate it (for looking ridiculous and offputting).offputting), and the people who understand how it's meant to tie into the wider themes of the story and just roll with it for what it is.

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