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* AccidentalAesop: While not lampshaded, this episode actually teaches people to never reveal such controversial/sensitive information to people who you haven't had long term friendships with. Lois and Joyce were friends for barely a month, and the former revealed to Joyce that she did a porno. [[TemptingFate You can guess what happens next]].
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's obvious that grudge holding isn't healthy and that DisproportionateRetribution is wrong, this episode just teaches people that bullying and hazing people to the point that they are humiliated in front of the student body should be easily forgiven and swept under the rug (it doesn't help that Lois and the other cheerleaders were never seen getting punished by the administrators).
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's obvious that grudge holding isn't healthy and that DisproportionateRetribution is wrong, this episode just teaches people that bullying and hazing people to the point that they are humiliated in front of the student body should be easily forgiven and swept under the rug (it doesn't help that Lois and the other cheerleaders were never seen getting punished by the administrators).
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* AccidentalAesop: While not lampshaded, this episode actually teaches people to never reveal such controversial/sensitive information to people who you haven't had long term friendships with. Lois and Joyce were friends for barely a month, and the former revealed to Joyce that she did a porno. [[TemptingFate You can guess what happens next]].
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Okay, Lois has been a shitty person as of late, and did pull a cruel prank on Joyce in high school, but Joyce herself immediately descended to her level when she eclipsed it by using her new spot as Quahog news anchor as a bully pulpit, humiliating Lois in front of ''the entire town'' by revealing the porno Lois took part in, and didn't even confront her directly beforehand about it or give a chance to apologize, and didn't even listen to Lois' apology. Fans still rooted for Joyce because Lois was finally getting blowback for past actions, even though she should have suffered more for those other actions, and Joyce [[HeWhoFightsMonsters was being as bad as Lois]]. Joyce could have still just confronted her directly and be justified in not immediately forgiving her, and even retaliating afterwards, but only if Lois refused to apologize in the latter case.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's obvious that grudge holding isn't healthy and that DisproportionateRetribution is wrong, this episode just teaches people that bullying and hazing people to the point that they are humiliated in front of the student body should be easily forgiven and swept under the rug (it doesn't help that Lois and the other cheerleaders were never seen getting punished by the administrators). Still, Joyce loses points for going behind Lois' back to pull the prank instead of talking it out with her.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Okay, Lois has been a shitty person as of late, and did pull a cruel prank on Joyce in high school, but Joyce herself immediately descended to her level when she eclipsed it by using her new spot as Quahog news anchor as a bully pulpit, humiliating Lois in front of ''the entire town'' by revealing the porno Lois took part in, and didn't even confront her directly beforehand about it or give a chance to apologize, and didn't even listen to Lois' apology. Fans still rooted for Joyce because Lois was finally getting blowback for past actions, even though she should have suffered more for those other actions, and Joyce [[HeWhoFightsMonsters was being as bad as Lois]]. Joyce could have still just confronted her directly and be justified in not immediately forgiving her, and even retaliating afterwards, but only if Lois refused to apologize in the latter case.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's obvious that grudge holding isn't healthy and that DisproportionateRetribution is wrong, this episode just teaches people that bullying and hazing people to the point that they are humiliated in front of the student body should be easily forgiven and swept under the rug (it doesn't help that Lois and the other cheerleaders were never seen getting punished by the administrators). Still, Joyce loses points for going behind Lois' back to pull the prank instead of talking it out with her.
* JerkassWoobie: Joyce. Grranted, she suffered for what she went through, but she came back in one of the most unhealthy ways possible.
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** Joyce may come off as this to a few viewers. While Lois did deserve blow-back for her past behavior in later seasons of the show, a few fans believed she went too far with her prank. [[RejectedApology While it was understandable for Joyce to not welcome Lois back in her life with open arms]], [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders it's mentally unhealthy to hold grudges for years]].
* TheWoobie: Joyce could qualify as either one, depending on whether or not one thinks she went too far with her retaliation.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Joyce's retaliation towards Lois was DisproportionateRetribution and Joyce clearly wasn't shown in the right for her behavior, many fans do not see Lois in the sympathetic light, even though she wasn't that much of a jerk in this episode.
** Joyce may come off as this to a few viewers. While Lois did deserve blow-back for her past behavior in later seasons of the show, a few fans believed she went too far with her prank. [[Rejected Apology While it is understandable for Joyce to not welcome Lois back in her life with open arms]], it's mentally unhealthy to hold grudges for years.
** Joyce may come off as this to a few viewers. While Lois did deserve blow-back for her past behavior in later seasons of the show, a few fans believed she went too far with her prank. [[Rejected Apology While it is understandable for Joyce to not welcome Lois back in her life with open arms]], it's mentally unhealthy to hold grudges for years.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Joyce's retaliation towards Lois was DisproportionateRetribution and Joyce clearly wasn't shown in the right for her behavior, many fans do not see Lois in the sympathetic light, even though she wasn't that much of a jerk in this episode.
episode. Had this occurred in earlier seasons when Lois was more likable, Lois probably would ave been more sympathetic.
** Joyce may come off as this to a few viewers. While Lois did deserve blow-back for her past behavior in later seasons of the show, a few fans believed she went too far with her prank.[[Rejected Apology [[RejectedApology While it is was understandable for Joyce to not welcome Lois back in her life with open arms]], [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders it's mentally unhealthy to hold grudges for years.years]].
** Joyce may come off as this to a few viewers. While Lois did deserve blow-back for her past behavior in later seasons of the show, a few fans believed she went too far with her prank.
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I'm begrudgingly admitting this. I'm sorry.
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Since Lois is a jerkass herself, it's more of Evil Vs Evil. Fuck Lois.
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* HilarityEnsues: In the real world, Joyce would have been fired immediately after airing her expose on Lois … not only because the story had no news value but that the story was meant only to embarrass and humiliate someone with whom she held a grudge against (for making her the victim of a joke that should have been addressed).Carrie-style prank). WQHG would have been exposed to a huge libel lawsuit to boot.
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Whether or not she's portrayed in the wrong doesn't change the fact that she has a reason for her action, and people can still feel pitty for her for that. It's called YMMV for a reason.
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* TheWoobie / JerkassWoobie: Joyce could qualify as either one, depending on whether or not one thinks she went too far with her retaliation.
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People remember traumatic things for a long time. I hate bullies with every fiber of my being and I hate when defensive things are said about them.!
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* HilarityEnsues: In the real world, Joyce would have been fired immediately after airing her expose on Lois … not only because the story had no news value but that the story was meant only to embarrass and humiliate someone with whom she held a grudge against (for making her the victim of a joke that should long-ago have been forgotten, or in the very least addressed). WQHG would have been exposed to a huge libel lawsuit to boot.
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* HilarityEnsues: In the real world, Joyce would have been fired immediately after airing her expose on Lois … not only because the story had no news value but that the story was meant only to embarrass and humiliate someone with whom she held a grudge against (for making her the victim of a joke that should long-ago have been forgotten).forgotten, or in the very least addressed). WQHG would have been exposed to a huge libel lawsuit to boot.
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* AccidentalAesop: While not lampshaded, this episode actually teaches people to never reveal such controversial/sensitive information to people who you haven't had long term friendships with. Lois and Joyce were friends for barely a month, and the former revealed to Joyce that she did a porno. [[TemptingFate You can guess what happens next]].
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's obvious that grudge holding isn't healthy and that DisproportionateRetribution is wrong, this episode just teaches people that bullying and hazing people to the point that they are humiliated in front of the student body should be easily forgiven and swept under the rug (it doesn't help that Lois and the other cheerleaders were never seen getting punished by the administrators).
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Joyce's retaliation towards Lois was DisproportionateRetribution and Joyce clearly wasn't shown in the right for her behavior, many fans do not see Lois in the sympathetic light, even though she wasn't that much of a jerk in this episode.
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It was the more damaging in the end. Designated Villain deleted not to defend Lois, but rather because the trope here was letting Kinney off the hook too easily. Anti Villain covers her pretty well already.
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* MisaimedFandom: While some fans felt Lois got what she deserved, some fans feel that, Kinney's stunt [[DisproportionateRetribution was the more damaging]], as it resulted in Lois getting shamed by the entire town, and she did it years after the fact without confronting Lois about it first. Regardless of how you feel about Lois, this is not how you confront a former bully, who may instead wish to apologize, which Lois actually did. Had Lois not been sorry, then Joyce would have been a lot more justified.
* MisaimedFandom: While some fans felt Lois got what she deserved, some fans feel that, Kinney's stunt [[DisproportionateRetribution was the more damaging]], as it resulted in Lois getting shamed by the entire town, and she did it years after the fact without confronting Lois about it first. Regardless of how you feel about Lois, this is not how you confront a former bully, who may instead wish to apologize, which Lois actually did. Had Lois not been sorry, then Joyce would have been a lot more justified.
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I don\'t think Joyce is The Woobie because she\'s portrayed in the wrong.
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** JerkassWoobie: She did [[HeWhoFightsMonsters step over the line]] with her retaliation though.
** JerkassWoobie: She did [[HeWhoFightsMonsters step over the line]] with her retaliation though.
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* TheWoobie: Although Joyce Kinney is portrayed as the villain, she only aired out Lois' dirty out of revenge and anger for a cruel {{Carrie}}-style prank that was pulled on her in high school. It's hard not to feel sorry for her.her.
** JerkassWoobie: She did [[HeWhoFightsMonsters step over the line]] with her retaliation though.
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* MisaimedFandom: While some fans felt Lois got what she deserved, some fans feel that, Kinney's stunt [[DisproportionateRetribution was the more damaging]], as it resulted in Lois getting shamed by the entire town, and she did it years after the fact without confronting Lois about it first. Regardless of how you feel about Lois, this is not how you confront a former bully, who may instead wish to apologize, which Lois actually did. Had Lois not been sorry, then Joyce would have been a lot more justified.)
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* MisaimedFandom: While some fans felt Lois got what she deserved, some fans feel that, Kinney's stunt [[DisproportionateRetribution was the more damaging]], as it resulted in Lois getting shamed by the entire town, and she did it years after the fact without confronting Lois about it first. Regardless of how you feel about Lois, this is not how you confront a former bully, who may instead wish to apologize, which Lois actually did. Had Lois not been sorry, then Joyce would have been a lot more justified.)
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* MisaimedFandom: While some fans felt Lois got what she deserved, some fans feel that, Kinney's stunt [[DisproportionateRetribution was the more damaging]], as it resulted inher Lois getting shamed by the entire town, and she did it years after the fact without confronting Lois about it first. Regardless of how you feel about Lois, this is not how you confront a former bully, who may instead wish to apologize, which Lois actually did. Had Lois not been sorry, then Joyce would have been a lot more justified.)
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Over 2 decades after the fact? I\'d love to see your next high school reunion. People change. Besides, let\'s face it, Joyce went off the deep end, and even Chris suffered for it. While it\'s true Lois is frequently a bitch, she still has some scruples.
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* DesignatedVillain: Joyce Kinney for outing Lois as a former porn star. It should be noted that it was done because of a cruel prank done to her in high school. It's played up as a big MoralEventHorizon and you're supposed to feel sorry for Lois. (That said, Kinney's stunt [[DisproportionateRetribution was the more damaging]], as it resulted in her getting shamed by the entire town, and she did it years after the fact without confronting Lois about it first. Regardless of how you feel about Lois, this is not how you confront a former bully, who may instead wish to apologize, which Lois actually did. Had Lois not been sorry, then Joyce would have been a lot more justified.)
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Removing sugarcoating. I hate my bullies and I would get revenge too.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Considering how much of an AlphaBitch and {{Jerkass}} Lois has become over the course of the series, especially to her children, and the horrible prank she pulled on Joyce, it's probably safe to say that a lot of viewers were rooting for Joyce to get back at lois.
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