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* QuestionableCasting: Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/DustinHoffman as father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Creator/MatthewBroderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/DustinHoffman as father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Creator/MatthewBroderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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* WhatAnIdiot: Adam, for not doing so much as an iota of research and preparation for his burglary - and not even having the good sense to bring gloves.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Vito punching Jessie.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Vito punching Jessie.
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** Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of Sean Connerys charismatic bluster there is simply no hiding the fact that Jessie is not a particularly nice or sympathetic man.
** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of Sean Connerys charismatic bluster there is simply no hiding the fact that Jessie is not a particularly nice or sympathetic man.
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** Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie time in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of SeanConnerys Connery's charismatic bluster there is simply no hiding the fact that Jessie is not a particularly nice or sympathetic man.
** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of Sean
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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/DustinHoffman as father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/DustinHoffman as father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick Creator/MatthewBroderick could possibly result from this lineage.))
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* MagnificentBastard: Jessie.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Vito punching Jessie
* MagnificentBastard: Jessie
* TooDumbToLive: Adam, despite his college education.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
* MagnificentBastard: Jessie
* TooDumbToLive: Adam, despite his college education.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Vito punching Jessie
Jessie.
* MagnificentBastard:Jessie
Jessie.
*TooDumbToLive: Adam, despite his college education.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
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** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of Sean Connerys charismastic bluster there is simply no hiding the fact that Jessie is not a particularly nice or sympathetic man.
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** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of Sean Connerys charismastic charismatic bluster there is simply no hiding the fact that Jessie is not a particularly nice or sympathetic man.
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* WTHCastingAgency: SeanConnery and DustinHoffman as father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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* WTHCastingAgency: SeanConnery Creator/SeanConnery and DustinHoffman Creator/DustinHoffman as father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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** Jessie as well, assuming he's also not meant to be seen as an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. For all of Sean Connerys charismastic bluster there is simply no hiding the fact that Jessie is not a particularly nice or sympathetic man.
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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: DustinHoffman as SeanConnery's son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: WTHCastingAgency: SeanConnery and DustinHoffman as SeanConnery's father and son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Jessie really the CoolOldGuy Adam thinks he is, or is he just an immoral old man and a ManipulativeBastard exploiting his grandson's familial man crush on him just for kicks and to annoy his son, Adam's father Vito? When Jessie finally asks Adam at the end "can you get out from under me?" is he finally acknowledging that he was a bad influence on Adam and encouraging him to be his own man, or is he once again just exploiting Adam's adoration of him?
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* TooDumbToLive: Adam, despite his college education.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Adam, for not doing so much as an iota of research and preparation for his burglary - and not even having the good sense to bring gloves.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Vito punching Jessie
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* ManipulativeBastard: Jessie
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: DustinHoffman as SeanConnery's son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Assuming he's not meant to be an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, Adam. His father, Vito, worked his ass off to give Adam a better life than Vito himself had, but Adam refuses to take advantage of the opportunities his upbringing provides and basically wants to throw his life away for a ridiculous burglary just because he thinks it'll be fun and despite everything his father does to keep him out of jail the ungrateful little brat complains that his father never respected him and complains about how lousy his upbringing was even as he and Jessie complain about his father complaining about how hard his own life was. And to top it all off Adam actually has the gall to claim that Jessie understood and respected him more than Vito ever did and even goes so far as to say Jessie was "fun" to be around, despite the fact that Jessie was by all accounts a terrible father who tried to turn both his son and grandson into criminals, spent more tie in jail than he did at home, ''and'' Jessie seemingly had no real qualms with leaving Adam in jail for about 15-20 years despite how much Adam sucked up to him. And yet Vito is made to feel like he's the bad guy with a mountain of InformedWrongness dropped on him.
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: DustinHoffman as SeanConnery's son. ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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WhatTheHellCastingAgency: DustinHoffman as SeanConnery's son. Not ''Everyone'' called the filmmakers out on this back in 1989 - not only is Connery older by a mere seven years but as ''People'''s review pointed out, "they don't look remotely alike, and they're about as close in size as a moose and a rabbit." (We won't get into how Matthew Broderick could possibly result from this lineage.)
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