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** When Geek Juice riffed the 1981 film, the guys came to the conclusion that the reason Keith is frequently shirtless is because he's a werewolf.

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** When Geek Juice riffed the 1981 film, the guys came to the conclusion that the reason Keith is frequently shirtless is because he's a werewolf.[[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werewolf]].



* MemeticMutation: WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob drawing attention to the 1981 film's {{tagline}} ("She's 15, he's 17. It's the love every parent fears.") has led to the spawning of many, many parodies of said tagline.



* QuestionableCasting: WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob wondered why Creator/JamesSpader wasn't cast as David, despite being a way more charismatic actor "who could have romantic chemistry with a ferrett". He even felt that Creator/TomCruise would have been a better choice.

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* QuestionableCasting: WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob wondered why Creator/JamesSpader wasn't cast as David, despite being a way more charismatic actor "who could have romantic chemistry with a ferrett". He even also felt that Creator/TomCruise would have been a better choice.
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* TheScrappy: From the 1981 film adaptation, Jade's mother Ann, who is meant to come across as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in contrast to her husband. However, her unhealthy desire to be with her daughter's boyfriend, to the point of watching them have sex and actually making a move on him when they reunite two years later meant that she was liked by pretty much no one and just came off as creepy. If anything, she makes Hugh look like a far more sensible parent in comparison (the novel paints her more as David's older DistaffCounterpart--like him, smart, but also very self-absorbed and irresponsible).

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* TheScrappy: From the 1981 film adaptation, Jade's mother Ann, who is meant to come across as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in contrast to her husband. However, her unhealthy desire to be with her daughter's boyfriend, to the point of watching them have sex and actually making a move on him when they reunite two years later meant that she was liked by pretty much no one and just came off as creepy. If anything, she makes [[StrawmanHasAPoint Hugh look like a far more sensible parent in comparison comparison]] (the novel paints her more as David's older DistaffCounterpart--like him, smart, but also very self-absorbed and irresponsible).

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* QuestionableCasting: WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob wondered why Creator/JamesSpader wasn't cast as David, despite being a way more charismatic actor "who could have romantic chemistry with a ferrett". He even felt that Creator/TomCruise would have been a better choice.
-->'''Snob:''' Actor Martin Hewitt actually beat out five thousand other people for this part. Wow, who were those 4,999 other people, {{serial killer}}s?



* WTHCastingAgency: WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob wondered why Creator/JamesSpader wasn't cast as David, despite being a way more charismatic actor "who could have romantic chemistry with a ferrett". He even felt that Creator/TomCruise would have been a better choice.
-->'''Snob:''' Actor Martin Hewitt actually beat out five thousand other people for this part. Wow, who were those 4,999 other people, {{serial killer}}s?
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** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be [[UnreliableNarrator lots of things he isn't telling us]], and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.

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** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be [[UnreliableNarrator lots of things he isn't telling us]], and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the love David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: In the novel, since David is narrating the story, we don't really learn the exact diagnosis of his mental problems, but he's clearly TheSociopath and has strong hints of obsessive-compulsive disorder too. His trouble reading social cues and lack of emotion also suggest his being on the UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: DiagnosedByTheAudience: In the novel, since David is narrating the story, we don't really learn the exact diagnosis of his mental problems, but he's clearly TheSociopath and has strong hints of obsessive-compulsive disorder too. His trouble reading social cues and lack of emotion also suggest his being on the UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum.



** Also in the 1981 film, [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] plays Jade's younger brother Sammy.

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** Also in the 1981 film, [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] Creator/IanZiering (Steve Sanders from ''Series/BeverlyHills90210'') plays Jade's younger brother Sammy.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: In the novel, since David is narrating the story, we don't really learn the exact diagnosis of his mental problems, but he's clearly TheSociopath and has strong hints of obsessive-compulsive disorder too. His trouble reading social cues and lack of emotion also suggest his being on the UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum.
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* {{Squick}}: Sex during a period gets bought up, and is deliberately given a gory description in how it happens.

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* {{Squick}}: Sex during a period gets bought up, happens in a key scene in the novel, and is deliberately given a detailed, gory description in how it happens.description, taking up a good portion of a chapter.
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** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be [[UnreliableNarrator lots of things he isn't telling us]], and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the love David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.

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** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be [[UnreliableNarrator lots of things he isn't telling us]], and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the love David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.



** Another question asked is whether David's parents are [[AbusiveParents abusive]] or not, as they could maybe have intervened before the start of the book. Perhaps had they done so, David could have been able to forget about Jade in the first place.

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** Another question asked is whether David's parents are [[AbusiveParents abusive]] or not, as they could maybe have intervened before the start of the book. Perhaps had they done so, David could have been able to forget about Jade in the first place. The incident late in the novel when [[spoiler:David violently grabs his mother's neck during an argument]] definitely hints at some genuine strife between him and his parents.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation is now best known for [[BreakawayPopHit its theme song]] and being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and many people watch it only for those elements.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation adaptation, while a big hit in its day, is now best known for [[BreakawayPopHit its theme song]] and being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and many people watch it only for those elements.
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** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be lots of things he isn't telling us, and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the love David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.

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** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be [[UnreliableNarrator lots of things he isn't telling us, us]], and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the love David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation is best known for [[BreakawayPopHit its theme song]] and being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and many people watch it now only for those elements.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation is now best known for [[BreakawayPopHit its theme song]] and being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and many people watch it now only for those elements.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation is best known for being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and most people nowadays (if they've even heard of the film at all) will watch it just to see his part.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation is best known for [[BreakawayPopHit its theme song]] and being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and most many people nowadays (if they've even heard of the film at all) will watch it just to see his part.now only for those elements.



* TheScrappy: From the 1981 film adaptation, Jade's mother Ann, who is meant to come across as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in contrast to her husband. However, her unhealthy desire to be with her daughter's boyfriend, to the point of watching them have sex and actually making a move on him when they reunite two years later meant that she was liked by pretty much no one and just came off as creepy. If anything, she makes Hugh look like a far more sensible parent in comparison.

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* TheScrappy: From the 1981 film adaptation, Jade's mother Ann, who is meant to come across as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in contrast to her husband. However, her unhealthy desire to be with her daughter's boyfriend, to the point of watching them have sex and actually making a move on him when they reunite two years later meant that she was liked by pretty much no one and just came off as creepy. If anything, she makes Hugh look like a far more sensible parent in comparison. comparison (the novel paints her more as David's older DistaffCounterpart--like him, smart, but also very self-absorbed and irresponsible).
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-->Actor Martin Hewitt actually beat out five thousand other people for this part. Wow, who were those 4,999 other people, {{serial killer}}s?

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-->Actor -->'''Snob:''' Actor Martin Hewitt actually beat out five thousand other people for this part. Wow, who were those 4,999 other people, {{serial killer}}s?
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* TheScrappy: From the 1981 film adaptation, Jade's mother Ann, who is meant to come across as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in contrast to her husband. However, her unhealthy desire to be with her daughter's boyfriend, to the point of watching them have sex and actually making a move on him when they reunite two years later meant that she was liked by pretty much no one and just came off as creepy. If anything, she makes Hugh look like a far more sensible parent in comparison.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: The 1981 film adaptation is best known for being {{Creator/Tom Cruise}}'s first acting role, and most people nowadays (if they've even heard of the film at all) will watch it just to see his part.
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** When Geek Juice riffed the 1981 film, the guys came to the conclusion that the reason Keith is frequently shirtless is because he's a werewolf.
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** Also in the 1981 film, [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] plays Jade's older brother Sammy.

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** Also in the 1981 film, [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] plays Jade's older younger brother Sammy.
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* {{Squick}}: Sex during a period gets bought up, and is deliberately given a gory description in how it happens.

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* {{Squick}}: Sex during a period gets bought up, and is deliberately given a gory description in how it happens.happens.
* WTHCastingAgency: WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob wondered why Creator/JamesSpader wasn't cast as David, despite being a way more charismatic actor "who could have romantic chemistry with a ferrett". He even felt that Creator/TomCruise would have been a better choice.
-->Actor Martin Hewitt actually beat out five thousand other people for this part. Wow, who were those 4,999 other people, {{serial killer}}s?
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** Creator/JamesSpader (credited as "Jimmy Spader") appears in his first major film role as Jade's brother Keith.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: The 1981 film is the film debut of Creator/TomCruise, appearing in one scene playing a guy who talks to David about a fire, which unwittingly ends up giving David the idea to burn Jade's house down. And yes, said scene ends with Cruise's character [[MemeticMutation running away]].
** [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] plays Jade's older brother Sammy.

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The 1981 film is the film debut of Creator/TomCruise, appearing in one scene playing a guy who talks to David about a fire, which unwittingly ends up giving David the idea to burn Jade's house down. And yes, said scene ends with Cruise's character [[MemeticMutation running away]].
** Also in the 1981 film, [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] plays Jade's older brother Sammy.
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**[[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Steve Sanders]] plays Jade's older brother Sammy.
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** Another question asked is whether David's parents are abusive or not, as they could maybe have intervened before the start of the book. Perhaps had they done so, David could have been able to forget about Jade in the first place.

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** Another question asked is whether David's parents are abusive [[AbusiveParents abusive]] or not, as they could maybe have intervened before the start of the book. Perhaps had they done so, David could have been able to forget about Jade in the first place.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The 1981 film is the film debut of Creator/TomCruise, appearing in one scene playing a guy who talks to David about a fire, which unwittingly gives Davd the idea to burn Jade's house down. And yes, said scene ends with Cruise's character [[MemeticMutation running away]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: The 1981 film is the film debut of Creator/TomCruise, appearing in one scene playing a guy who talks to David about a fire, which unwittingly gives Davd ends up giving David the idea to burn Jade's house down. And yes, said scene ends with Cruise's character [[MemeticMutation running away]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The 1981 film is the film debut of Creator/TomCruise, appearing in one scene playing a guy who talks to David about a fire, which unwittingly gives Davd the idea to burn Jade's house down. And yes, said scene ends with Cruise's character [[MemeticMutation running away]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Three particular things get asked most often:
** How are we supposed to see David? He offers us his account of what happens, but for all we know there could be lots of things he isn't telling us, and these could be quite important. To add to this is how much people question about the love David had for Jade, and how far over the line from love to obsession he had gone.
** Another question asked is whether Jade is actually worth any effort at all. How can a woman and girl be worth so much, when she seems mostly just plain and not really worthy of attention? This one is very deliberately fed by Spencer though, as he purposefully never tries to convince us that she IS worth it.
** Another question asked is whether David's parents are abusive or not, as they could maybe have intervened before the start of the book. Perhaps had they done so, David could have been able to forget about Jade in the first place.
* MoralEventHorizon: It's not hard to see David having gone right past this from the very moment we meet him, due to him burning down Jade's house, with the rest of the story is his remorse over him doing so.
* {{Squick}}: Sex during a period gets bought up, and is deliberately given a gory description in how it happens.

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