History YMMV / Elementary

3rd May '18 2:47:23 PM RebelFalcon
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** Shinwell bores people to tears with his gang infiltration sub-plot that never goes anyway, and never actually shows him doing anything to infiltrate his gang. His interactions with the main cast being "ignore what Joan tells him he should do" followed by "Sherlock has to clean up his mess" don't help either.
2nd May '18 10:29:34 PM jenanykid
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* AwardSnub: In five seasons, the show has yet to win a single Emmy award and its only nominations were for the main title and credits, not the writing, acting or directing.
17th Mar '18 11:31:47 PM Pichu-kun
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** Sherlock/Marcus has its fans, especially with those who either prefer Joan and Sherlock as PlatonicLifePartners or [[ShipMates ship Joan with Moriarty]].


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** Joan/Sherlock/Marcus isn't unknown in the fandom.
17th Mar '18 11:29:53 PM Pichu-kun
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: In the second season, Mycroft. Some fans found him to be a strong character and loyal to the canon, while others found his plotline tedious and overlong and his relationship with Joan a complete AssPull.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: BaseBreakingCharacter:
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In the second season, Mycroft. Some fans found him to be a strong character and loyal to the canon, while others found his plotline tedious and overlong and his relationship with Joan a complete AssPull.



* FanPreferredCouple: Sherlock/Joan. Even repeated ShipSinking by WordOfGod doesn't seem to help much. Although Sherlock/Kitty had been gaining momentum before the latter was PutOnABus.
* FoeYay: Between Moriarty and Joan, especially during the restaurant scene. Also, the traditional Holmes-Moriarty FoeYay is given a new dimension by [[spoiler: having Moriarty be a woman and having her and Holmes actually having been lovers once.]] Later on, we learn that [[spoiler:Moriarty now considers Joan a WorthyOpponent, just like she does with Holmes.]]

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* FanPreferredCouple: {{Fanon}}:
** Sherlock is on the autism spectrum.
** Joan is commonly depicted as bisexual in fan-works.
* FanPreferredCouple:
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Sherlock/Joan. Even repeated ShipSinking by WordOfGod doesn't seem to help much. Although
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Sherlock/Kitty had been gaining momentum before the latter was PutOnABus.
* FoeYay: FoeYay:
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Between Moriarty and Joan, especially during the restaurant scene. Also, the traditional Holmes-Moriarty FoeYay is given a new dimension by [[spoiler: having Moriarty be a woman and having her and Holmes actually having been lovers once.]] Later on, we learn that [[spoiler:Moriarty now considers Joan a WorthyOpponent, just like she does with Holmes.]]



* HolyShitQuotient: [[spoiler: ''Irene is Moriarty''. Fandom just about had a collective meltdown.]]

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[[spoiler: ''Irene is Moriarty''. Fandom just about had a collective meltdown.]]



* OneTrueThreesome: Those who don't want to have ShipToShipCombat ships Sherlock/Joan/Kitty together.

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* OneTrueThreesome: OneTrueThreesome:
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Those who don't want to have ShipToShipCombat ships Sherlock/Joan/Kitty together.



* TheUntwist: [[spoiler:"We Are Everyone" might qualify as this for some people.]]

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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler:"We Are Everyone" Everyone"]] might qualify as this for some people.]]
29th Jan '18 4:44:04 PM bodhirook
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** Despite only appearing in a few episodes, Ms Hudson is extremely popular among fans due to being a very positive and respectful portrayal of a transgender character in a mainstream show and one who is played by a transgender actress as well. Her appearances are always well-received.
31st Dec '17 10:37:46 PM nombretomado
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** "Details": [[spoiler: the culprit is portrayed by Paula Garces (the ''HaroldAndKumar'' series, ''Series/GuidingLight'')]]

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** "Details": [[spoiler: the culprit is portrayed by Paula Garces (the ''HaroldAndKumar'' ''Film/HaroldAndKumar'' series, ''Series/GuidingLight'')]]
15th Nov '17 3:58:07 PM ProfessorDetective
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* FandomRivalry: Fights with some factions of the ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fandom have gotten ''ugly''. It's reached [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/14/victoria-coren-lucy-liu-sherlock-holmes national newspapers]]. The stupidity of the rivalry has reached astronomical bounds, especially since some die-hard fans of ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' insult Creator/JonnyLeeMiller's performance as if they're paying a service to Creator/BenedictCumberbatch by doing so... seemingly not understanding that the two are good friends and ''performed in a play together.'' Tensions have calmed only at the second series, where even antagonistic fans admit that ''Series/{{Elementary}}'' isn't that bad. They've also calmed after the divisive fourth season of BBC's ''Sherlock'' turned many fans against the show.

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* FandomRivalry: Fights with some factions of the ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fandom have gotten ''ugly''.''nasty''. It's reached [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/14/victoria-coren-lucy-liu-sherlock-holmes national newspapers]]. The stupidity of the rivalry has reached astronomical bounds, especially since some die-hard fans of ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' insult Creator/JonnyLeeMiller's performance as if they're paying a service to Creator/BenedictCumberbatch by doing so... seemingly not understanding that the two are good friends and ''performed in a play together.'' Tensions have calmed only at the second series, where even antagonistic fans admit that ''Series/{{Elementary}}'' isn't that bad. They've also calmed after the divisive fourth season of BBC's ''Sherlock'' turned many fans against the show.



** In "The Female of the Species," [[spoiler:Moriarty arranges for the murder of a criminal who was targeting Watson, because as far as she's concerned, Holmes ''and'' Watson belong to her and her alone]].

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** In "The Female of the Species," [[spoiler:Moriarty arranges for the murder of a criminal who was targeting Watson, Watson because as far as she's concerned, Holmes ''and'' Watson belong to her and her alone]].



** Seems to be striking up a relationship with ''Series/SleepyHollow'', as they both have female characters of colour who take no shit. It also helps that the Twitter pages for both shows' writers have been engaging in a [[http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/82321771.html hilarious Twitter]] "feud", with the CSI writers piping in.

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** Seems to be striking up a relationship with ''Series/SleepyHollow'', as they both have female characters of colour color who take no shit. It also helps that the Twitter pages for both shows' writers have been engaging in a [[http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/82321771.html hilarious Twitter]] "feud", with the CSI writers piping in.



** The killer in "Dead Man's Tale" was [[spoiler: Patrick Fabian, who was a deep sea salvage experty who was trying to pull off a Film/TheProducers style plot where he needed to fail rather than succeed. Fabian has had major roles on shows like Gossip Girl and more recently, Better Call Saul]].

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** The killer in "Dead Man's Tale" was [[spoiler: Patrick Fabian, who was a deep sea deep-sea salvage experty expert who was trying to pull off a Film/TheProducers style plot where he needed to fail rather than succeed. Fabian has had major roles on shows like Gossip Girl and more recently, Better Call Saul]].



* PeripheryDemographic: In addition to Holmes fans and fans of the police procedueral, ''Elementary'' has gained an enthusiastic following from progressives, especially feminists, not just for {{Gender Flip}}ping Watson [[spoiler:and Moriarty]], but also for subtle signs scattered throughout the series that the show's makers are earnestly trying to make the show progressive and pro-feminist. Judging by the enthusiastic response, they've largely succeeded. It's also praised for being one of the few shows with an Asian lead character.

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* PeripheryDemographic: In addition to Holmes fans and fans of the police procedueral, procedural, ''Elementary'' has gained an enthusiastic following from progressives, especially feminists, not just for {{Gender Flip}}ping Watson [[spoiler:and Moriarty]], but also for subtle signs scattered throughout the series that the show's makers are earnestly trying to make the show progressive and pro-feminist. Judging by the enthusiastic response, they've largely succeeded. It's also praised for being one of the few shows with an Asian lead character.



* ShipSinking: The Kitty[=/=]Sherlock ship goes down in flames when she returns to New York in a two parter, and is revealed to have a child, among other changes in her life.
* SophomoreSlump: The second season was as enjoyable the first as far as episodic plots are involved, but was marred by ConflictBall-induced stupidity, Sherlock and Joan bickering rather than getting closer like fans wanted, and Mycroft's drawn out plotline, and a somewhat unbelievable romantic subplot with Joan. Season 3, thanks to Kitty's terrific character arc and a saner dynamic between Joan and Sherlock, was a return to form.

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* ShipSinking: The Kitty[=/=]Sherlock ship goes down in flames when she returns to New York in a two parter, two-parter and is revealed to have a child, among other changes in her life.
* SophomoreSlump: The second season was as enjoyable the first as far as episodic plots are involved, but was marred by ConflictBall-induced stupidity, Sherlock and Joan bickering rather than getting closer like fans wanted, and Mycroft's drawn out drawn-out plotline, and a somewhat unbelievable romantic subplot with Joan. Season 3, thanks to Kitty's terrific character arc and a saner dynamic between Joan and Sherlock, was a return to form.
1st Oct '17 11:27:30 AM mack
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*ShipSinking: The Kitty[=/=]Sherlock ship goes down in flames when she returns to New York in a two parter, and is revealed to have a child, among other changes in her life.
8th Jul '17 8:17:03 PM missmoon
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** [[spoiler:Shinwell's death]] at the end of season 5 is all the more tragic after the sudden passing of Nelsan Ellis in 2017.
6th Jul '17 9:02:35 PM UrthWyrm
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* FandomRivalry: Fights with some factions of the ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fandom have gotten ''ugly''. It's reached [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/14/victoria-coren-lucy-liu-sherlock-holmes national newspapers]]. The stupidity of the rivalry has reached astronomical bounds, especially since some die-hard fans of ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' insult Creator/JonnyLeeMiller's performance as if they're paying a service to Creator/BenedictCumberbatch by doing so... seemingly not understanding that the two are good friends and ''performed in a play together.'' Tensions have calmed only at the second series, where even antagonistic fans admit that ''Series/{{Elementary}}'' isn't that bad.

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* FandomRivalry: Fights with some factions of the ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fandom have gotten ''ugly''. It's reached [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/14/victoria-coren-lucy-liu-sherlock-holmes national newspapers]]. The stupidity of the rivalry has reached astronomical bounds, especially since some die-hard fans of ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' insult Creator/JonnyLeeMiller's performance as if they're paying a service to Creator/BenedictCumberbatch by doing so... seemingly not understanding that the two are good friends and ''performed in a play together.'' Tensions have calmed only at the second series, where even antagonistic fans admit that ''Series/{{Elementary}}'' isn't that bad. They've also calmed after the divisive fourth season of BBC's ''Sherlock'' turned many fans against the show.
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