History YMMV / DumbingOfAge

20th Nov '16 12:12:56 AM NonoRobot
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* {{Moe}}: Dina.

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* {{Moe}}: Much to Billie's surprise (and the readers'), Ruth turns into one after [[spoiler:getting help at the hospital. She also realized that deep down, she doesn't want to die, and is tearfully begging Billie to not let her die]].
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Dina.
5th Nov '16 4:52:00 PM KarkatTheDalek
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* CreatorsPet: Despite only being a main character for two books, Becky has already [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/becky/ had more appearances]] than other established characters such as [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/sal/ Sal]], [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/ethan/ Ethan]] and [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/dina/ Dina]].
4th Nov '16 9:52:29 PM dmh3000
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Walky and Dorothy, specifically in their relationship. Is Walky being an insensitive {{Jerkass}} to his girlfriend [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/arf/ who just wants him to open up]] or is he trying to protect himself [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/fetishist/ from getting hurt]] by a relationship [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/planning/ he knows has a deadline]]? On the other side, is Dorothy expecting too much from a relationship [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/skedaddle/ she herself insisted wasn't serious]], is she [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/relieved/ changing her mind]] about this being just for fun, or is the fact that her only other prior experience [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/together/ was Danny]] causing her to have a skewed view of how to handle things?


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* CreatorsPet: Despite only being a main character for two books, Becky has already [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/becky/ had more appearances]] than other established characters such as [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/sal/ Sal]], [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/ethan/ Ethan]] and [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/dina/ Dina]].
4th Nov '16 4:17:54 PM Westing1992
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Happens with characters like Becky and Carla. While we are meant to find them sympathetic, many readers find [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/blbfghlpf/ their personalities]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/skff/ too off putting]] to want to take their side. Complicating the matter is Becky's status as a lesbian and Carla's status as a trans woman, which can cause some of the critiques of their characters to cross into homophobia and transphobia.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: [[http://thewebcomicsreview.tumblr.com/post/152544704470/is-marys-character-ridiculous-she-seems-almost This tumblr post]] how Mary can come off this way; basically, she never even has any short-term victories, so she winds up being the underdog.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Happens with characters like Becky and Carla. While we are meant to find them sympathetic, many readers find [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/blbfghlpf/ their personalities]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/skff/ too off putting]] to want to take their side. Complicating the matter is Becky's status as a lesbian and Carla's status as a trans woman, which can cause some of the critiques of their characters to cross into homophobia and transphobia.be accused of being homophobic or transphobic.
1st Nov '16 12:36:07 AM DrPsyche
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** Joe and the kind of humor he brings. He's either funny in a CrossesTheLineTwice sort of way or he's annoying and his jokes are at odds with the rest of the comic. Him falling OutOfFocus is either a good thing or a waste.
3rd Oct '16 11:52:21 AM Mr.Badguy
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** Mike has been getting hit with this regarding whether his actions are a form of necessary ToughLove,if he's merely an abusive bully who frequently pulls KarmaHoudini routines, or whether both are irrelevant and he's just meant to be a FlatCharacter for comedy's sake.

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** Mike has been getting hit with this regarding whether his actions are a form of necessary ToughLove,if ToughLove, if he's merely an abusive bully who frequently pulls KarmaHoudini routines, or whether both are irrelevant and he's just meant to be a FlatCharacter for comedy's sake.
3rd Oct '16 11:51:56 AM Mr.Badguy
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** Mike has been getting hit with this regarding whether his actions are a form of necessary ToughLove,if he's merely an abusive bully who frequently pulls KarmaHoudini routines, or whether both are irrelevant and he's just meant to be a FlatCharacter for comedy's sake.
24th Aug '16 5:47:29 AM NonoRobot
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** Becky tends to shrug off any [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/unlimited/ moments of sadness easily]]. Whether it's genuine or she's just good at hiding her pain has yet to be seen.

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** Becky tends to shrug off any [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/unlimited/ moments of sadness easily]]. Whether it's genuine or she's just good at hiding In general, Becky would rather hide her pain has yet than let people know she is hurting. She does that both with her dad (as a defense mecanism) and Joyce (mostly because she doesn't want to be seen.make her sad). Every now and then, though, her facade breaks.
8th Aug '16 9:54:10 AM hullflyer
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** Adding on to Sal, when we get a glimpse into the past and [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/same/ see her robbery]], it's entirely [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/weirdo/ through Amber's perspective]] and the comic exclusively focusses on her trauma, only bringing up the robbery when she is experiencing mental distress. We never get shown the lead up to the hold up, what motivated the idea or how her parents reacted to it. We don't even get any insight into how [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/hostage/ Ethan handled having a knife against his throat]], which was shown to be sharp enough to [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ stab through Sal's hand]].

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** Adding on to Sal, when we get a glimpse into the past and [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/same/ see her robbery]], it's entirely [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/weirdo/ through Amber's perspective]] and the comic exclusively focusses focuses on her trauma, only bringing up the robbery when she is experiencing mental distress. We never get shown the lead up to the hold up, what motivated the idea or how her parents reacted to it. We don't even get any insight into how [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/hostage/ Ethan handled having a knife against his throat]], which was shown to be sharp enough to [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ stab through Sal's hand]].
8th Aug '16 9:46:17 AM hullflyer
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* BrokenAesop: The story arcs focussing on how people facing social prejudice (Be it race, homophobia or transphobia) can ring a little hollow when you realise how little the comic focusses on the people experiencing the prejudice directly and more [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/settledown/ on a white]] ([[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/ginger/ Or whiter]]) character reacting to said issue. More details below in the TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot entry.

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* BrokenAesop: The story arcs focussing focusing on how people facing social prejudice (Be it race, homophobia or transphobia) can ring a little hollow when you realise realize how little the comic focusses focuses on the people experiencing the prejudice directly and more [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/settledown/ on a white]] ([[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/ginger/ Or or whiter]]) character reacting to said issue. More details below in the TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot entry.
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