History YMMV / DoctorWhoS35E10FaceTheRaven

* AccidentalAesop: Clara's death coming as a result of her becoming too much like the Doctor and taking a gamble in hopes of saving Rigsy ''and'' the Doctor not doing more to discourage her from emulating him accidentally carried the Aesop "Don't aspire to greatness or heroism" to at least one viewer who wrote to ''Doctor Who Magazine'' to complain about it. Combine that with the implication that the Doctor was also being punished for saving Ashildr's life and earning her resentment over time and it gets even worse: The only alternative to making her immortal was letting her -- an innocent girl -- die; what kind of doctor would ''that'' have made him? Luckily, "Hell Bent" undoes this by semi-reviving Clara, having her convince the Doctor to hold to his ideals instead of giving them up to be a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and even gives her a TARDIS of her own so she can have adventures with Ashildr.

** The Doctor's rather forgiving attitude towards antagonists in this series, most notably Bonnie the Zygon, made his possibly-eternal fury at Ashildr for her role in Clara's death a divisive topic.

** Things only further broke with the events of "Hell Bent", in which Clara is pulled from time and able to live a long life before returning to the moment of her death, and Ashildr becomes her ''companion'' -- they even have their own TARDIS!
*** Although by the show's logic, Clara ''is'' going back to Gallifrey and fix the damage caused by the Doctor, but she's "taking the long way around", so this may be considered an AuthorsSavingThrow.
**** However considering that Clara is travelling with Ashildr and they are both immortal, she may never return of her own volition, meaning she may forget what exactly she's running away from. And by travelling with another Immortal she will never grow as a person as they'll both keep acting the way they are and not calling each other out on it.
* HesJustHiding: With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans didn't honestly think Clara was KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. As it turned out, while she ''was'' killed off in a DeaderThanDead way, "Hell Bent" reveals that she pulled from time at the very moment of her death, and exists as an immortal for a long time afterward before returning to that point.

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* HesJustHiding: With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans didn't honestly think Clara was KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. As it turned out, while she ''was'' killed off in a DeaderThanDead way, "Hell Bent" reveals that she pulled from time at the very moment of her death, and exists as an immortal for a long time afterward before returning to that point!
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: An unusual example: Clara actually ''does'' die in this episode in a way that leaves her DeaderThanDead, but there are fans who ''still'' thougt this trope applied with two episodes left to go, claiming/hoping she'd be brought back to life in the finale! And those fans were, to all intents and purposes, right.

*** Note that Ashildr is in "Hell Bent" (Maisie Williams is even given billing on the ''Radio Times'' poster alongside Peter Capaldi), so the events of that episode will likely affect the above two points.
* HesJustHiding: With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead (having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body; how would the Doctor or anyone else find and stuff it back in?), that a DeletedScene has the Doctor make sure Rigsy can inform her loved ones and colleagues of her death and give her body proper treatment (it's why he's not mindwiped again), that her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, that the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, that undoing her death via time travel would cause a massive paradox, and that just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (with no one else to ever love, having lost Danny) wouldn't fit her personality. The cast and crew '''have''' noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes, and that the Doctor won't just let her death be the end. She ''will'' appear in some way in "Hell Bent". But he ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably/not go as intended.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: An unusual example: Clara actually ''does'' die in this episode in a way that leaves her DeaderThanDead, but there are fans who ''still'' think this trope applies with two episodes left to go, claiming/hoping she'll be brought back to life in the finale!
** And those fans were, to all intents and purposes, right.

** ...and those fans were, to all intents and purposes, right.

*** Note that Ashildr has a key role in "Hell Bent" (Maisie Williams is the only actor given billing on the ''Radio Times'' poster besides Peter Capaldi), so the events of that episode will likely have an effect on the above two points.

** Ashildr really hit this ''hard'' for some fans, considering her HeelFaceRevolvingDoor shtick and the fact she (by some variation) led Clara to her death, on top of betraying and hurting ''the man who saved her village and her life, who was willing to do anything he could to keep her from growing heartless'' -- and couldn't even bring herself to apologize for it. She will be in "Hell Bent" -- can she make up for these actions, or will she finally get what's coming to her?

** Ashildr really hit this ''hard'' for some fans, considering her HeelFaceRevolvingDoor shtick and the fact she (by some variation) led Clara to her death, hurting ''the man who saved her village and her life, who was willing to do anything he could to keep her from growing heartless'' -- and couldn't even bring herself to apologize for it.

** Ashildr really hit this ''hard'' for some fans, considering her HeelFaceRevolvingDoor shtick and the fact she (by some variation) lead Clara to her death.
* HesJustHiding:
** With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead (having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body; how would the Doctor or anyone else find and stuff it back in?), that a DeletedScene has the Doctor make sure Rigsy can inform her loved ones and colleagues of her death and give her body proper treatment (it's why he's not mindwiped again), that her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, that the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, that undoing her death via time travel would cause a massive paradox, and that just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (with no one else to ever love, having lost Danny) wouldn't fit her personality. The cast and crew '''have''' noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes, and that the Doctor won't just let her death be the end. But he ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably/not go as intended.

* Ashildr really hit this ''hard'' for some fans, considering her HeelFaceRevolvingDoor shtick and the fact she (by some variation) lead Clara to her death.

** With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead (having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body; how would the Doctor or anyone else find and stuff it back in?), that a DeletedScene has the Doctor make sure Rigsy can inform her loved ones and colleagues of her death and give her body proper treatment (it's why he's not mindwiped again), that her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, that the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, that undoing her death via time travel would cause a massive paradox, and that just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (with no one else to ever love, having lost Danny) wouldn't fit her personality. Those who want Clara to live point to the following ''potential'' hints that she'll be revived/saved.
** The cast and crew have noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes, and that the Doctor won't just let her death be the end. But he ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably.

** With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead (having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body; how would the Doctor or anyone else find and stuff it back in?), that a DeletedScene has the Doctor make sure Rigsy can inform her loved ones and colleagues of her death and give her body proper treatment (it's why he's not mindwiped again), that her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, that the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, that undoing her death via time travel would cause a massive paradox, and that just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (with no one else to ever love, having lost Danny) wouldn't fit her personality. Those who want Clara to live point to the following ''potential'' hints that she'll be revived/saved.\\
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The Doctor and her have a conversation at a diner in Nevada, where she is working as a waitress, in "Hell Bent". In fact, the episode is HowWeGotHere in structure. But this Clara might be an echo, not the original.\\
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The cast and crew have noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes, and that the Doctor won't just let her death be the end. But he ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably.

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* BrokenBase: It's either terrible that the episode killed Clara off... or it's great for killing her off.
** Given that the Doctor's been rather forgiving towards antagonists this year, most notably Bonnie the Zygon, is his possibly-eternal fury at Ashildr for her role in Clara's death fair?
* HesJustHiding: With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead (having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body; how would the Doctor or anyone else find and stuff it back in?), that a DeletedScene has the Doctor make sure Rigsy can inform her loved ones and colleagues of her death and give her body proper treatment (it's why he's not mindwiped again), that her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, that the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, that undoing her death via time travel would cause a massive paradox, and that just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (with no one else to ever love, having lost Danny) wouldn't fit her personality. Those who want Clara to live point to the following ''potential'' hints that she'll be revived/saved:
** The Doctor and her have a conversation at a diner in Nevada, where she is working as a waitress, in "Hell Bent". In fact, the episode is HowWeGotHere in structure. But this Clara might be an echo, not the original.
** The cast and crew have noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes, and that the Doctor won't just let her death be the end. But he ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably.

** The Doctor and her have at least one conversation in "Hell Bent". (But this might be an echo of her, not the original.)
** The first released pictures from "Hell Bent" reveal she's a waitress at the diner at Lake Silencio. (Again, might be an echo.)
** River Song's continued presence in the series, as she's showing up in the 2015 Christmas special; in "The Name of the Doctor" she continued to exist after Clara entered his timestream because Clara was still alive, so Clara must be alive somewhere ''now...'' (Maybe an echo got lucky and survived helping the Doctor, turning up at a fixed/still point in time.)
*** River in the Christmas Special could easily be pre-"Silence in the Library".

* HesJustHiding: With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead, having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body, her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates his out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, and just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (especially having lost Danny Pink, the only other man she ever loved) wouldn't fit her personality. Those who want Clara to live point to the following ''potential'' hints that she'll be revived/saved in the final episodes:

** The first released pictures from "Hell Bent" reveal she's a waitress at the diner at Lake Silencio. (But this, again, might be an echo.)
** River Song's continued presence in the series, as she's showing up in the 2015 Christmas special; in "The Name of the Doctor" she continued to exist after Clara entered his timestream because Clara was still alive, so Clara must be alive somewhere ''now...'' (But again, maybe an echo counts -- one who got lucky and didn't die in the process of helping undo the Great Intelligence's plot.)
** The cast and crew have noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes, and that the Doctor won't just let her death be the end. (But he ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably.)

** The cast and crew have noted that Clara's departure continues to unfold over the next two episodes. (But the Doctor ''is'' grieving and might be tempted to dangerous measures to save her that, in the end, he either won't take -- or take and see them fail miserably.)

* SignatureScene: Clara's death.

* HesJustHiding: With two episodes left to go in Series 9, a significant portion of fans don't honestly think Clara has been KilledOffForReal, even though this is her departure season. Never mind that she's DeaderThanDead, having had her soul/lifeforce ripped from her body, never mind that her sacrifice does make a compelling end to her character arc of becoming the Doctor's DistaffCounterpart to a tragic result, never mind that the loss hits the Doctor so hard that it motivates his out-of-character behavior in the last episodes, never mind that just bringing her back to have her ''stop'' traveling with the Doctor and go back to a mundane life (especially having lost Danny Pink, the only other man she ever loved) wouldn't fit her personality. Those who want Clara to live point to the following ''potential'' hints that she'll be revived/saved in the final episodes: