History YMMV / DoctorWho

1st Feb '16 6:25:41 PM skidoo23
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** Series 9 touched none-too-subtly on topics ranging from the futility of war ([[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E8TheZygonInversion via the Doctor's epic speech on the subject]]) to allegories to Syrian refugees in not one but two episodes.

** That said, especially with the arrival of the darker Twelfth Doctor, he still finds himself doing things that some might vehemently disagree with from a moral perspective.

** While a minor one, many fans feel this of Ten preventing his regeneration by sending the energy into his severed hand as one. Then again a few series' later when it's revealed that it still counted as a used up regeneration.
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** While The above event actually provides a minor one, double helping of ass-pull as many fans feel this of Ten preventing his regeneration by sending the energy into his severed hand as one.hand. Then again a few series' later when it's revealed that it still counted as a used up regeneration.

*** Although the spoon has relevance to the swordfight, it does seem to appear out of nowhere in the TARDIS. The Doctor is discussing Robin Hood, he's flipping through a book, he turns away from Clara, we hear a "CHING" sound effect and suddenly there's a big spoon in his hand (leading to momentary thoughts of this trope being applied ''literally''). Clara doesn't even seem to notice. And the spoon appears to ''vanish'' when the Doctor starts hunting for the Polaroid. If the Doctor hadn't later needed the spoon for the swordfight, this would have qualified most criteria for a BigLippedAlligatorMoment.
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*** Although the spoon has relevance to the swordfight, it does seem to appear out of nowhere in the TARDIS. The Doctor is discussing Robin Hood, he's flipping through a book, he turns away from Clara, we hear a "CHING" sound effect and suddenly there's a big spoon in his hand covered in an unknown white foodstuff (leading to momentary thoughts of this trope being applied ''literally'').''literally''), which the Doctor sheepishly licks. Clara doesn't even seem to notice. And the spoon appears to ''vanish'' when the Doctor starts hunting for the Polaroid. If the Doctor hadn't later needed the spoon for the swordfight, swordfight (and as it is said spoon is completely devoid of said white substance when it does appear) this would have qualified most criteria for a BigLippedAlligatorMoment.
1st Feb '16 4:01:56 PM skidoo23
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** In an unusual (and, to some, potentially disturbing) averting, the chemistry between Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman proved to be so strong that some fans actually began shipping ''the actors themselves'', even giving it the name "Copealdi", despite Capaldi being happily married, Coleman in a long-standing relationship, and no indication of anything but deep friendship between the two. Ironically, the relationship displayed in real life by the two actors - confirmed as even extending onto the set, per WordOfGod (directors, writers and Moffat) - actually exhibits all the traits ''sans romance'' that some fans say should exist between the Doctor and Clara and other companions.
1st Feb '16 2:09:52 PM Metz77
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** While neither of the Sixth Doctor's two seasons are considered high points for the show, most agree that his first season is okayish, and that his second and final season, "The Trial of a Time Lord" suffers from the show's behind-the-scenes issues becoming glaringly obvious on-screen. ** The Seventh Doctor's first season (season 24) is this to the show in general, with many fans considering it the show's absolute worst season. The following two seasons are actually regarded as being pretty good however, making this a rare inversion of the trope.
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** While neither of the Sixth Doctor's two seasons are considered high points for the show, most agree that his first season is okayish, and that his second and final season, "The Trial of a Time Lord" suffers from the show's behind-the-scenes issues becoming glaringly obvious on-screen. on-screen. [[BaseBreaker Then again]], there are some fans who consider season 22 to be overly violent garbage that suffered from poor writing and unlikeable protagonists, while Trial of a Time Lord started to recover with its unified story and character development for both the Sixth Doctor and companion Peri -- only to suffer further rot in... ** The Seventh Doctor's first season (season 24) 24), which is this to the show in general, with many general. Many fans considering consider it the show's absolute worst season. The following two seasons are actually regarded as being pretty good however, making this a rare inversion of the trope.
1st Feb '16 1:31:34 PM Metz77
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** The chase-scene padding in the JonPertwee era can often be put down to WagTheDirector -- Pertwee loved driving motor vehicles around very fast (in fact, the "Whomobile" seen in a couple of episodes was not the BBC's property, but his own personal car). The episode-long chase scene in ''The Green Death'' has been explicitly mentioned to have been a farewell present from the writers to him.
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** The chase-scene padding in the JonPertwee era can often be put down to WagTheDirector -- Pertwee loved driving motor vehicles around very fast (in fact, the "Whomobile" seen in a couple of episodes was not the BBC's property, but his own personal car). The episode-long chase scene in ''The Green Death'' ''Planet of the Spiders'' has been explicitly mentioned to have been a farewell present from the writers to him.
1st Feb '16 11:45:50 AM Metz77
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In ''The Sound of Drums'', American President Arthur Winters introduces himself as "President-Elect Arthur Coleman Winters." In America, the President-Elect is someone who's been elected President in the November elections but hasn't been sworn in yet at the January Inaugural. Thus, he wouldn't be the President yet, and wouldn't have the political power to do what Winters does here. Except for that one line, everything else in the script indicates Winters is supposed to be the current American President. If he was, there's no good reason (not even a stupid reason) why he'd call himself, "President-Elect"?
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In ''The Sound of Drums'', American President Arthur Winters introduces himself as "President-Elect Arthur Coleman Winters." In America, the President-Elect is someone who's been elected President in the November elections but hasn't been sworn in yet at the January Inaugural. Thus, he wouldn't be the President yet, and wouldn't have the political power to do what Winters does here. Except for that one line, everything else in the script indicates Winters is supposed to be the current American President. If he was, there's no good reason (not even a stupid reason) why he'd call himself, "President-Elect"?"President-Elect"? [[WordOfGod Outright admitted by RTD]], who had no idea what "president-elect" meant but thought it sounded cooler than "president".
30th Jan '16 10:15:37 AM ZemplinTemplar
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* SoBadItsGood: "The Underwater Menace"; one printed review in ''SFX'' magazine describing it as "''[[Film/Plan9FromOuterSpace Plan Nine from Doctor Who]]''".
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* SignatureScene: Every incarnation of the Doctor has at least one. ** Twelve's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvGND1i6Dj0 thoughtful speech]] on the nature of war and revanchism from "The Zygon Inversion" is fast becoming this. You know you've made it when hobbyist voice impersonators start recording adaptations of that same speech with voices of different Doctor incarnations - such as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKwEKxNOBIo Second Doctor]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfAx5eG2op0 Third Doctor]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fkbQR2AZow War Doctor]] or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoeO782AaJA Tenth Doctor]]. Creator/PaulMcGann also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0leIKO5Z2c did a reading of the speech]] at a fan event in November 2015. * SoBadItsGood: In a long-lived series like this one, some stories have earned some good-natured infamy. ** "The Underwater Menace"; one printed review in ''SFX'' magazine describing it as "''[[Film/Plan9FromOuterSpace Plan Nine from Doctor Who]]''".
27th Jan '16 11:00:48 AM Sapphirea2
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*** Fans are also adamant that Missy killed a [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor Zygon]] and not the real Osgood. Ingrid Oliver, Osgood's actress, [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02b9fpy would certainly like to think]] her character's just hiding. Series 9 looks set to reveal what actually happened. [[spoiler:[[TheUnreveal It doesn't]], entirely: Either the Zygon duplicate or the original Osgood is still alive, and she's not telling anyone which she is; she considers herself both human and Zygon, and that's all she cares to reveal about herself. Later another Zygon also takes the form of Osgood, and again, neither of them will reveal which of them is which.]]
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*** Fans are were also adamant that Missy killed a [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor Zygon]] and not the real Osgood. Ingrid Oliver, Osgood's actress, [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02b9fpy would certainly like to think]] her character's just hiding. Series 9 looks set to ''doesn't quite'' reveal what actually happened. [[spoiler:[[TheUnreveal It doesn't]], entirely: happened. [[spoiler: Either the Zygon duplicate or the original Osgood is still alive, and she's not telling anyone which she is; she considers herself both human and Zygon, and that's all she cares to reveal about herself. reveal. Later another Zygon also takes the form of Osgood, and again, again neither of them will reveal which of them is which.]]which!]]
24th Jan '16 3:51:23 PM JamesAustin
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** The revelation in the TV Movie that the Doctor is a HalfHumanHybrid was hated by many fans who saw it as parochial and an imitation of ''Franchise/StarTrek''. After some ArmedWithCanon disputes in the 1996-2005 expanded universe material as to whether it was real or not, it was finally rejected in "The Stolen Earth"/"Journeys' End", where it's a major plot point that no human-Time Lord hybrid has ever existed.
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** After the violent Sixth Doctor era the series tried this by becoming more light hearted. Audiences continued to drop, with the Doctor coming across as a goofy clown. So the stories became darker and the Doctor became more mysterious. Though the series was cancelled after another two seasons, those two seasons of the Seventh Doctor's era became a CultClassic. ** The revelation in the TV Movie that the Doctor is a HalfHumanHybrid was hated by many fans who saw it as parochial and an imitation of ''Franchise/StarTrek''. After some ArmedWithCanon disputes in the 1996-2005 expanded universe material as to whether it was real or not, it was finally rejected in "The Stolen Earth"/"Journeys' Earth"/"Journey's End", where it's a major plot point that no human-Time Lord hybrid has ever existed.existed. ** Though it may not have been intended this way, the reveal in "The Christmas Invasion", that in the first day after regeneration a Time Lord can perform drastic body alterations, has been seized on in {{Fanon}} as an explanation for Romana's notorious regeneration scene in "Destiny of the Daleks", where she appeared to waste several of them just to "try out" different looks.

** After the violent 6th Doctor era the series tried this by becoming more light hearted. Audiences continued to drop, with the Doctor coming across as a goofy clown. So the stories became darker and the Doctor became more mysterious. Though the series was cancelled after another two seasons the 7th Doctor's era became a CultClassic. ** Though it may not have been intended this way, the reveal in "The Christmas Invasion", that in the first day after regeneration a Time Lord can perform drastic body alterations, has been seized on in {{Fanon}} as an explanation for Romana's notorious regeneration scene in "Destiny of the Daleks", where she appeared to waste several of them just to "try out" different looks. ** In Matt Smith's last three episodes, Steven Moffat utilized disparate plot threads dating back to the earliest days of the revived series to negate the whole issue of the Doctor only having thirteen lives, in case the BBC felt like cancelling the series when the thirteenth actor left.

** Clara's exit from the show is written as a direct counterpoint to Donna's, where she was removed of all her agency and development just for the Doctor's manpain. Here he tries to do it again but has the technique bounced back at him, so he's the one who forgets all about Clara as she gets to keep having her own badass adventures.
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** In Matt Smith's last three episodes, Steven Moffat utilized disparate plot threads dating back to the earliest days of the revived series to negate the whole issue of the Doctor only having thirteen lives, in case the BBC felt like cancelling the series when the thirteenth actor left. ** Clara's exit from the show is written as a direct counterpoint to Donna's, where she was removed of all her agency and development just for to focuse on the Doctor's manpain.pain. Here he tries to do it again but has the technique bounced back at him, so he's the one who forgets all about Clara as she gets to keep having her own badass adventures.

** Clara's exit from John Nathan-Turner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the show is written as a direct counterpoint to Donna's, where she celebrity guest was removed of all her agency and development just actually suited to the role, one notable example being Beryl Reid as Captain Briggs in "Earthshock", due to Nathan Turner's love for the Doctor's manpain. Here he tries to do it again but has the technique bounced back at him, so he's the one who forgets all about Clara as she gets to keep having her own badass adventures.light entertainment.

** Beryl Reid as Captain Briggs in Earthshock. This was due to producer John Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment. ** Nathan-Turner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to the role. The Creator/RussellTDavies era, on the other hand, was noticeable for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves. Some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist Richard Dawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many Doctor Who issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. ** Eric Roberts as the Master.
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** Beryl Reid Eric Roberts as Captain Briggs in Earthshock. This was due to producer John Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment. ** Nathan-Turner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to Master in the role. The TV movie. ** While the Creator/RussellTDavies era, on the other hand, era was noticeable praised for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves. Some themselves, some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist Richard Dawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many Doctor Who ''Doctor Who'' issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. ** Eric Roberts as the Master.media.

* WTHCostumingDepartment: while all incarnations of the show ''and'' the title character are guilty of it to some degree or another, the crowner of this Trope is probably Colin Baker's costume. There is no good explanation for that coat.
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: while While all incarnations of the show ''and'' the title character are guilty of it to some degree or another, the crowner of this Trope trope is probably Colin Baker's costume. There is no good explanation for that coat.
23rd Jan '16 1:54:48 PM Anddrix
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** The Doctor ditching his iconic screwdriver for a set of "sonic sunglasses" in Series 9, causing many people to accuse the creators of just doing it to make the Doctor look "hip". Opinions range from people not seeing what the big deal is to an online petition to get the creators to bring the screwdriver back. As it turned out, one of the season's BookEnds was the Doctor having a new screwdriver tossed to him by the TARDIS in the final sequence of "Hell Bent", directly mirroring him tossing his last one to young Davros in the first scene of "The Magician's Apprentice", and implying that the sunglasses were just a phase, part of the Twelfth Doctor's CharacterDevelopment. ** Any attempt at "shipping" the Doctor and a companion (or other character), regardless of the Doctor or the companion/character or the combination chosen, is a potential base-breaker. This occurs even when there is explicit on-screen evidence that a relationship exists (i.e. River Song) as some fans will vehemently refuse to acknowledge this being acceptable, while others will not only advocate for a specific ship, but will deny the possibility that any other ship is possible. This extends into people writing about the show - on this website, on Wikis related to the show, and fansites - who bend over backwards to emphasize that the Doctor and certain companions (most notably Clara, but others as well) were "just friends" even when on-screen evidence suggests they were more. The contradictory term "platonic romance" appears quite often and has even been invoked by people involved in making the show.

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** The Doctor ditching his iconic screwdriver for a set of "sonic sunglasses" in Series 9, causing many people to accuse the creators of just doing it to make the Doctor look "hip". Opinions range from people not seeing what the big deal is to an online petition to get the creators to bring the screwdriver back. As it turned out, one of the season's BookEnds was the Doctor having a new screwdriver tossed to him by the TARDIS in the final sequence of "Hell Bent", directly mirroring him tossing his last one to young Davros in the first scene of "The Magician's Apprentice", and implying that the sunglasses were just a phase, part of the Twelfth Doctor's CharacterDevelopment. ** Any attempt at "shipping" the Doctor and a companion (or other character), regardless of the Doctor or the companion/character or the combination chosen, is a potential base-breaker.chosen. This occurs even when there is explicit on-screen evidence that a relationship exists (i.e. River Song) as some fans will vehemently refuse to acknowledge this being acceptable, while others will not only advocate for a specific ship, but will deny the possibility that any other ship is possible. This extends into people writing about the show - on this website, on Wikis related to the show, and fansites - who bend over backwards to emphasize that the Doctor and certain companions (most notably Clara, but others as well) were "just friends" even when on-screen evidence suggests they were more. The contradictory term "platonic romance" appears quite often and has even been invoked by people involved in making the show.
23rd Jan '16 1:47:53 PM Anddrix
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Base Breakers cannot be Scrappies.
** As noted under the BaseBreaker section, every Doctor and companion is this to someone.
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