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** The Van Baalen siblings from Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS incur the wrath of fans primarily due to their morally reprehensible behavior, notably their manipulation of Tricky. Gregor's insistence on salvaging the TARDIS's parts, coupled with his deception of Tricky into believing he's an android, showcases a callous disregard for his brother's well-being and potential character development. This manipulation not only robs Tricky of his identity and agency but also prevents any chance of redemption for his siblings. Despite hints of growth and redemption throughout the episode, particularly in Gregor's brief moments of decency, the reset button employed at the end of the episode undoes any potential consequences or lessons learned from their actions. This reset undermines the narrative impact of the episode and negates the possibility of genuine growth and redemption for the siblings other than a small PetTheDog moment. The fact that they remain oblivious to their past actions perpetuates the cycle of manipulation and stagnation within their relationship, frustrating viewers who expect more depth and nuance from the characters. Overall, the Van Baalen siblings' actions, coupled with the narrative reset, hinder any possibility of empathy or sympathy from viewers, cementing their status as disliked characters within the fandom.
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** Series 11-13 of the reboot, under the purview of showrunner Chris Chibnall, is often considered the weakest era of the revival. While Jodie Whittaker's performance as the Thirteenth Doctor is routinely praised, the era is plagued by poor writing, inconsistent characterisation, and controversial changes to canon. On several occasions The Doctor acts out of character, including siding with a large corporation in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS375E7Kerblam "Kerblam!"] and deciding that a slow death by starvation or asphyxiation is kinder than a MercyKill in [[[[Recap/DoctorWhoS37E12ArachnidsInTheUK "ArachnidsInTheUK"]. The episode count being cut down coupled with the large number of companions means that they often lack depth and exploration, to the point that she shares only a handful of conversations with Dan over their time together. Compounding matters was showrunner Chris Chibnall taking a lead writing credit on the vast majority of episodes during the period, resulting in several scripts being rushed - in fact, many fans note that the stronger episodes during this period were those written or co-written by other writers. Additionally, many fans despise The Timeless Child Arc [[note]]which reveals that The Doctor isn't Gallifreyan, but a member of an unknown species who was experimented on to give Time Lords the power of regeneration who lived several lifetimes as an agent for a secret agency called Division before having their memories erased and being raised as a normal Time Lord.[[/note]], noting that it effectively overwrites vast swathes of established canon and that the Master's decision to unceremoniously destroy Gallifrey as part of the arc effectively turns large parts of 11 and 12's arc's, as well as the 50th anniversary, into a ShaggyDogStory. Finally, the conclusion of the arc saw cast swathes of the Universe and trillions of lives lost, with the Doctor neglecting to reverse the damage. As such, many fans hoped that Russel T. Davies would retcon the arc upon his return to the show, and were disappointed when he confirmed he would instead make The Doctor's search for his identity a central part of the Fifteenth Doctor's era.
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** Scorby from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E6TheSeedsOfDoom The Seeds of Doom]]" is played by Creator/JohnChallis, who would later be best known for playing Boycie in ''Series/OnlyFoolsAndHorses'' and ''Series/TheGreenGreenGrass''.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Most of the video games based on the show have been ''incredibly'' poor. Until ''VideoGame/DoctorWhoLegacy'' came along, probably the best were the Adventure Games released in 2010--2011, and even they suffered from uneven design and graphics that were barely UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 standard, though at least they were free to people in the UK.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Most of the video games based on the show have been ''incredibly'' poor. Until ''VideoGame/DoctorWhoLegacy'' came along, probably the best were the Adventure Games released in 2010--2011, and even they suffered from uneven design and graphics that were barely UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 Platform/PlayStation2 standard, though at least they were free to people in the UK.
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*** Theories regarding Donna's Time Lord memories/self/whatever and how she can regain them are similarly endless.
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*** Theories regarding Donna's Time Lord memories/self/whatever and how she can regain them are similarly endless. [[spoiler: She finally gets them back in Recap/DoctorWho60thASTheStarBeast]].
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** Creator/BilliePiper was known as a novelty late-90's teen pop artist who was essentially untested as an actor, given the difficult task of being the very first companion of the revival series. Rose continues to be a highly-regarded companion, which makes it easy to forget how wild of a swing her casting was.
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** The Eleventh Doctor's era is best known by many as the era where the Doctor was played by an attractive and young Creator/MattSmith.
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** Chibnall has been blamed for ''destroying the Canon'' with the Timeless Child plot twist (in which it was revealed that the Doctor, far from being an ordinary inhabitant of Galifrey, was actually a mysterious child of unknown origin whom the Time Lords stole the power of regeneration from). First of all, there has never been a "Doctor Who Canon" in any real sense. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius The Brain of Morbius]]" also showed the Doctor having previous regenerations before Hartnell and the Seventh Doctor was also hinting at a mysterious origin and not being an ordinary Time Lord. So essentially Chibnall was simply just building on some ideas already introduced.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The willingness of the Series 11 writers to reference contemporary social issues is a strong point of contention amongst fans. However, as [[http://sartorialgeek.com/political-awareness-doctor-who/ this article]] points out, the show has a long history of social commentary which was, if anything, ''more'' overt in the past than it is now.
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** The willingness of the Series 11 writers to reference contemporary social issues is a strong point of contention amongst fans. However, as [[http://sartorialgeek.com/political-awareness-doctor-who/ this article]] points out, the show has a long history of social commentary which was, if anything, ''more'' overt in the past than it is now.
** Chibnall has been blamed for ''destroying the Canon'' with the Timeless Child plot twist (in which it was revealed that the Doctor, far from being an ordinary inhabitant of Galifrey, was actually a mysterious child of unknown origin whom the Time Lords stole the power of regeneration from). However, this isn't the first time the show has alluded to the Doctor having had incarnations before the First Doctor or having an origin that differs from the one commonly given. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius The Brain of Morbius]]" alluded to the Doctor having previous regenerations before Hartnell and the Seventh Doctor was also hinting at a mysterious origin and not being an ordinary Time Lord. So essentially Chibnall was simply just building on some ideas already introduced.
** The willingness of the Series 11 writers to reference contemporary social issues is a strong point of contention amongst fans. However, as [[http://sartorialgeek.com/political-awareness-doctor-who/ this article]] points out, the show has a long history of social commentary which was, if anything, ''more'' overt in the past than it is now.
** Chibnall has been blamed for ''destroying the Canon'' with the Timeless Child plot twist (in which it was revealed that the Doctor, far from being an ordinary inhabitant of Galifrey, was actually a mysterious child of unknown origin whom the Time Lords stole the power of regeneration from). However, this isn't the first time the show has alluded to the Doctor having had incarnations before the First Doctor or having an origin that differs from the one commonly given. "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius The Brain of Morbius]]" alluded to the Doctor having previous regenerations before Hartnell and the Seventh Doctor was also hinting at a mysterious origin and not being an ordinary Time Lord. So essentially Chibnall was simply just building on some ideas already introduced.
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** The Sixth Doctor (at least his television incarnation) was found to be obnoxious, abrasive, and an empty attempt by the producers to make the show DarkerAndEdgier. ExpandedUniverse media have largely contributed to this character being RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap.
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** The First Doctor's era was one to the Second Doctor's era. At the time Creator/PatrickTroughton took over the role, Creator/WilliamHartnell was THE Doctor and audiences weren't accustomed yet to the idea of [[TheNthDoctor regeneration]], and so Troughton's era suffered a ratings decline as a result. Although nowadays his era is largely seen as VindicatedByHistory, with Troughton himself being seen as the actor who did the most to shape the Doctor's personality in the show's early years.
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** This particular brand of haters have set a new template for people who want to proclaim the show becoming more inclusive will kill it (such as the introductions of trans girl Rose Noble and Fifteen, the first main black Doctor), regurgitating much the same fallacious arguments about the ratings - the Who version of "go woke, get broke".
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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E7AGoodManGoesToWar Lorna Bucket]] is played by Creator/ChristinaChong, over a decade before her role as [[Series/StarTrekStrangeNewWorlds La'an Noonien-Singh]].
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** Technician Penn from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E6TheSpacePirates The Space Pirates]]" is played by Creator/GeorgeLayton, who would later be best known for playing Paul Collier in ''Series/DoctorInTheHouse'' and Bombardier Solomons in ''Series/ItAintHalfHotMum''.
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** Fred Mullins from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS7E1SpearheadFromSpace Spearhead from Space]]" and Dave from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E5TheGreenDeath The Green Death]]" are played by Creator/TalfrynThomas, who would later be best known for playing Private Cheeseman in ''Series/DadsArmy''.
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** The show saw a notable uptick in viewership for the 2023 Christmas special ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2023CSTheChurchOnRubyRoad The Church on Ruby Road]]'' after the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]]. Gatwa is the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role. The special got remarkably high viewership, with 4.73 million viewers, a little over a million more than the previous holiday special, ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2022NYSEveOfTheDaleks Eve of the Daleks]]''.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The show itself is considered family viewing, despite its dark tone of certain episodes and surprising amount of [[{{double entendre}} sexual innuendo]] and it is usually shown around the supper hour on a Saturday. ''Doctor Who'' is over fifty years old and neatly matches the second paragraph of this trope's description. It's very much seen as a family/children's show, but it's been violent from the very beginning. A BBC audience research survey conducted in 1972 found that ''Doctor Who'' was the most violent show it produced at the time. The show was especially violent during the first few Fourth Doctor seasons, consistently getting complaints, and the show was also so violent in 1985 that it got the show cancelled for 18 months. For instance, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius The Brain Of Morbius]]" (1976) featured a man getting shot in the stomach with an explosion of blood, then crawling, dying, down a corridor.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The show itself is considered family viewing, despite its dark tone of certain episodes and surprising amount of [[{{double entendre}} sexual innuendo]] and it is usually shown around the supper hour on a Saturday. ''Doctor Who'' is over fifty years old and neatly matches the second paragraph of this trope's description. It's very much seen as a family/children's show, but it's been violent from the very beginning. A BBC audience research survey conducted in 1972 found that ''Doctor Who'' was the most violent show it produced at the time. The show was especially violent during the first few Fourth Doctor seasons, consistently getting complaints, and the show was also so violent in 1985 that it got the show cancelled for 18 months. For instance, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius The Brain Of Morbius]]" (1976) featured a man getting shot in the stomach with an explosion of blood, then crawling, dying, down a corridor.
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** The show saw a notable uptick in viewership for Following the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]], the 2023 Christmas special ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2023CSTheChurchOnRubyRoad The Church on Ruby Road]]'' after became the introduction highest rated winter holiday special for several years at 7.49 million, an increase of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor 3.1 million over 2022's New Year's special ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2022NYSEveOfTheDaleks Eve of the Fifteenth Doctor]].Daleks]]'', which got 4.40 million. Gatwa is the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role. The special got remarkably high viewership, with 4.73 million viewers, a little over a million more than the previous holiday special, ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2022NYSEveOfTheDaleks Eve of the Daleks]]''.\n
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The show itself is considered family viewing, despite its dark tone of certain episodes and surprising amount of [[{{double entendre}} sexual innuendo]] and it is usually shown around the supper hour on a Saturday. ''Doctor Who'' is overfifty sixty years old and neatly matches the second paragraph of this trope's description. It's very much seen as a family/children's show, but it's been violent from the very beginning. A BBC audience research survey conducted in 1972 found that ''Doctor Who'' was the most violent show it produced at the time. The show was especially violent during the first few Fourth Doctor seasons, consistently getting complaints, and the show was also so violent in 1985 that it got the show cancelled for 18 months. For instance, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius The Brain Of Morbius]]" (1976) featured a man getting shot in the stomach with an explosion of blood, then crawling, dying, down a corridor.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The show itself is considered family viewing, despite its dark tone of certain episodes and surprising amount of [[{{double entendre}} sexual innuendo]] and it is usually shown around the supper hour on a Saturday. ''Doctor Who'' is over
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** In the Creator/RussellTDavies era, UNIT took a much more aggressive and morally questionable approach towards alien threats all in the name of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror "Homeworld Security"]]. Notably the Brigadier is not impressed at this new mindset at all and says as much in the ''Sarah Jane Adventures'':
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** Series 6 (2011) introduced the Silence, a religious order of creepy humanoids. Once anyone looks away from a Silent, they forget about them. However, these aliens use post-hypnotic suggestions. Many commenters act like they've never seen the Silence but remember what they said; it went as far as videos of the Apollo 11 moon landing, a major plot point in the episode "Day of the Moon".
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWho60thASWildBlueYonder Wild Blue Yonder]]", the Doctor and Donna accidentally interrupt Isaac Newton just as he figures out gravity, causing Newton to give the fundamental interaction of gravity the name "mavity" instead. From that point onwards in the show, all characters refer to the fundamental interaction of gravity as "mavity", including the [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor Fifteenth Doctor]]. A lot of fans have taken this and run with it, including attributing the [[Characters/DoctorWhoFirstDoctor First Doctor]] mentioning "gravity" to one of Creator/WilliamHartnell's infamous line flubs, and various other incarnations of the character mentioning "gravity" being taken to be "bloopers that were left in by mistake", and so on.
** Series 6 (2011) introduced the Silence, a religious order of creepy humanoids. Once anyone looks away from a Silent, they forget about them. However, these aliens use post-hypnotic suggestions. Many commenters act like they've never seen the Silence but remember what they said; it went as far as videos of the Apollo 11 moon landing, a major plot point in the episode "Day of the Moon".
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWho60thASWildBlueYonder Wild Blue Yonder]]", the Doctor and Donna accidentally interrupt Isaac Newton just as he figures out gravity, causing Newton to give the fundamental interaction of gravity the name "mavity" instead. From that point onwards in the show, all characters refer to the fundamental interaction of gravity as "mavity", including the [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor Fifteenth Doctor]]. A lot of fans have taken this and run with it, including attributing the [[Characters/DoctorWhoFirstDoctor First Doctor]] mentioning "gravity" to one of Creator/WilliamHartnell's infamous line flubs, and various other incarnations of the character mentioning "gravity" being taken to be "bloopers that were left in by mistake", and so on.
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** The show saw a notable uptick in viewership for the 2023 Christmas special ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2023CSTheChurchOnRubyRoad The Church on Ruby Road]]'' after the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]]. Gatwa is the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role. The special got remarkably high viewership, with 4.73 million viewers, a little over a million more than the previous holiday special, "[[Recap/DoctorWho2022NYSEveOfTheDaleks Eve of the Daleks]]".
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** By comparison, the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]] in "The Church on Ruby Road", with Gatwa being the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role, saw the ratings remain in much the same range as the Fourteenth Doctor's specials. The major jump in ratings was with the Fourteenth Doctor's first story, which saw an increase of 2.3 million viewers over the Thirteenth Doctor's final story, from 5.3 million to 7.6 million.
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** This particular brand of haters have set a new template for people who want to proclaim the show becoming more inclusive will kill it (such as the introductions of trans girl Rose Noble and Fifteen, the first main black Doctor), regurgitating much the same fallacious arguments about the ratings - the Who version of "go woke, get broke".
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* WatchedItForTheRepresentation: The show saw a notable uptick in viewership for the 2023 Christmas special ''The Church on Ruby Road'' after the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]]. Gatwa is the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role. The show also saw some interest for the introduction of Creator/JodieWhittaker as [[Characters/DoctorWhoThirteenthDoctor the Thirteenth Doctor]], the first onscreen incarnation of the character in the series proper to be played by a woman, but Gatwa was widely acknowledged as having breathed new life into the series' viewership numbers.
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** The show sawa notable uptick in viewership for the 2023 Christmas special ''The Church on Ruby Road'' after the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]]. Gatwa is the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role. The show also saw some considerable interest for the introduction of Creator/JodieWhittaker as [[Characters/DoctorWhoThirteenthDoctor the Thirteenth Doctor]], the first onscreen incarnation of the character in the series proper to be played by a woman, but with a jump of 3 million viewers between the Twelfth Doctor's final story and the Thirteenth Doctor's first, from 7.92 million to 10.96 million.
** By comparison, the introduction of Creator/NcutiGatwa as [[Characters/DoctorWhoFifteenthDoctor the Fifteenth Doctor]] in "The Church on Ruby Road", with Gatwa being the first Black British man to play the role and the first openly queer man to play the role, saw the ratings remain in much the same range as the Fourteenth Doctor's specials. The major jump in ratings waswidely acknowledged as having breathed new life into with the series' viewership numbers.Fourteenth Doctor's first story, which saw an increase of 2.3 million viewers over the Thirteenth Doctor's final story, from 5.3 million to 7.6 million.
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*** Creator/RussellTDavies stated that Rose was intended to be this. She is an AudienceSurrogate already, but also a young woman from a London council estate (housing project for American tropers) who gets picked out of her boring life to find adventure and love (!) with an alien much cooler than her current boyfriend.
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*** Creator/RussellTDavies stated that Rose Tyler was intended to be this. She is an AudienceSurrogate already, but also a young woman from a London council estate (housing project for American tropers) who gets picked out of her boring life to find adventure and love (!) with an alien much cooler than her current boyfriend.
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** In his recap of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E12BadWolf second-to-last episode]] of the first season of [=NuWho=], Jacob of ''Website/TelevisionWithoutPity'' incorporated a lengthy rant on Gnosticism and the [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory parallels thereto]] in the revived series. He concluded from this analysis that, among other things, the season finale would have to involve the Doctor as the Devil battling a "fake bastard God" and being saved by a female character ("I hope it's the TARDIS, but it's probably Rose") as the incarnation of the goddess of wisdom. In his recap of the actual [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E13ThePartingOfTheWays finale]], he doesn't so much gloat as express relief that he doesn't look insane.
** The return of the Master in the new series. Granted, this got more and more obvious as the show went on, but some fans had this figured out from the trailer. Others had this worked out even before that [[EpilepticTrees based on what DVD box sets of the classic series the BBC was releasing.]] (The box set in question being the "New Beginnings" trilogy, which returned the Master to recurring character status in the original series.) Others rejected this theory because they felt that Creator/TheBBC wouldn't be "that obvious".
** In possibly the most extreme example, the possible connection between Jack Harkness and [[spoiler:the Face of Boe]] was predicted ahead of time.
** [[FounderOfTheKingdom Rassilon]] turning out to be evil in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]" was this for many fans. "[[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors The Five Doctors]]" and much ''Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse'' material had already depicted him as fairly shady.
** There was a theory that in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E5FleshAndStone "Flesh and Stone"]], the reason that the Doctor was wearing the jacket that he had just lost wasn't because of continuity errors, but because he was actually the Doctor from the future who had come back in time to talk to Amy. Those who subscribed to this theory were entirely correct.
** Creator/ArthurDarvill had several guesses as to River Song's true identity before it was revealed on the show, and would sometimes bug Creator/AlexKingston with them on set (she being the only person other than Moffat who knew). Eventually he guessed right, and she just said [[spoiler:"Hello, Dad."]] He wasn't the only one who predicted this, though, as quite a few fans speculated the same thing.
** And on the subject of River, it was widely suggested that the "good man" that River killed would turn out to be [[spoiler:the Doctor himself]] — it was. He survived.
** How many jokes were there about [[spoiler:the Statue of Liberty being a Weeping Angel]] before [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan "The Angels Take Manhattan"]]? ''A lot''. How horrified was everyone that the jokes were right? ''Very''.
** A few fans successfully guessed the revelation regarding Clara in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]": [[spoiler:that the modern London Clara is the original and somehow ends up splintered across time to save the Doctor's life countless times.]]
** After he first appeared in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]", fans speculated that [[spoiler:the War Doctor was a previously unknown incarnation of the Doctor from between his eighth and ninth incarnations]]. The minisode "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor The Night of the Doctor]]" proved this to be true.
** Missy's identity, which was revealed at the end of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater Dark Water]]", was correctly guessed ahead of time by savvy fans.
** Although the actual mechanics remained unspoiled, many fans predicted Clara's death at the end of Series 9 as early as the end of Series 8, though granted some expected her to die (as was actually originally planned) in the 2014 Christmas special.
** The official synopsis of post-Series 9 ChristmasEpisode [[Recap/DoctorWho2015CSTheHusbandsOfRiverSong "The Husbands of River Song"]] triggered predictions/fears that it would reveal [[spoiler: the circumstances of the Doctor and River Song's last night together]], and it did. However, the episode ended on a twist no one saw coming: [[spoiler:said night on Darillium lasts '''24 years''' in Earth/human time]]!
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E11WorldEnoughAndTime "World Enough and Time"]]:
*** Some fans figured Creator/StevenMoffat would kill off Bill because he was about to leave the show and would likely sweep the chessboard clean for Creator/ChrisChibnall. That, and they know [[AnyoneCanDie what to expect]] with Moffat by this point, and it made sense he would have one last crack at killing off a beloved character... though from there other fans correctly guessed that there would be more to Bill's fate than the {{Cliffhanger}} teased!
*** Because of the fake-out regeneration in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E8TheLieOfTheLand "The Lie of the Land"]], when the Doctor appeared to be dying in the opening sequence, a lot of people expected another tease of a regeneration, only for real this time.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls "The Doctor Falls"]]:
*** Quite a few fans predicted that Bill would be rescued from her fate by Heather from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E1ThePilot "The Pilot"]] given the latter character's established shapeshifting and time-and-space travelling abilities ''and'' the fact that [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt just killing off a companion for good just isn't in the revival's wheelhouse]]. Eagle-eyed viewers even caught a hint of {{Foreshadowing}} in the previous episode when she appeared in the window Bill was glancing out of!
*** After David Bradley's return was spoiled by newspapers, many fans correctly guessed he would appear as the First Doctor — after his turn as William Hartnell in ''Film/AnAdventureInSpaceAndTime'' — in the final scene.
** [[Recap/DoctorWho2017CSTwiceUponATime "Twice Upon a Time"]]: Long before the special aired, most fans figured that the Captain, who was not named in the pre-publicity, was somehow related to {{the Brigadier}}. The reveal of his name near the end confirmed him as a member of the Lethbridge-Stewart family.
** [[Recap/DoctorWho2019NYSResolution "Resolution"]]: Despite the advertising going to considerable lengths (until Christmas Day, anyway) in avoiding the revelation of who or what "the most dangerous creature in the universe" was, that description was enough for many to figure out [[ArchEnemy just who the Doctor was talking about]].
** When the first photos of Creator/NeilPatrickHarris's character in the 60th anniversary specials were revealed, the most common guess was he was playing the Celestial Toymaker, a First Doctor foe who [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome hadn't be seen]] since then, based off of him wearing what looked like toymaker attire and being in a workshop. This was confirmed to be the case on September 22.
** In his recap of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E12BadWolf second-to-last episode]] of the first season of [=NuWho=], Jacob of ''Website/TelevisionWithoutPity'' incorporated a lengthy rant on Gnosticism and the [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory parallels thereto]] in the revived series. He concluded from this analysis that, among other things, the season finale would have to involve the Doctor as the Devil battling a "fake bastard God" and being saved by a female character ("I hope it's the TARDIS, but it's probably Rose") as the incarnation of the goddess of wisdom. In his recap of the actual [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E13ThePartingOfTheWays finale]], he doesn't so much gloat as express relief that he doesn't look insane.
** The return of the Master in the new series. Granted, this got more and more obvious as the show went on, but some fans had this figured out from the trailer. Others had this worked out even before that [[EpilepticTrees based on what DVD box sets of the classic series the BBC was releasing.]] (The box set in question being the "New Beginnings" trilogy, which returned the Master to recurring character status in the original series.) Others rejected this theory because they felt that Creator/TheBBC wouldn't be "that obvious".
** In possibly the most extreme example, the possible connection between Jack Harkness and [[spoiler:the Face of Boe]] was predicted ahead of time.
** [[FounderOfTheKingdom Rassilon]] turning out to be evil in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]" was this for many fans. "[[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors The Five Doctors]]" and much ''Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse'' material had already depicted him as fairly shady.
** There was a theory that in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E5FleshAndStone "Flesh and Stone"]], the reason that the Doctor was wearing the jacket that he had just lost wasn't because of continuity errors, but because he was actually the Doctor from the future who had come back in time to talk to Amy. Those who subscribed to this theory were entirely correct.
** Creator/ArthurDarvill had several guesses as to River Song's true identity before it was revealed on the show, and would sometimes bug Creator/AlexKingston with them on set (she being the only person other than Moffat who knew). Eventually he guessed right, and she just said [[spoiler:"Hello, Dad."]] He wasn't the only one who predicted this, though, as quite a few fans speculated the same thing.
** And on the subject of River, it was widely suggested that the "good man" that River killed would turn out to be [[spoiler:the Doctor himself]] — it was. He survived.
** How many jokes were there about [[spoiler:the Statue of Liberty being a Weeping Angel]] before [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan "The Angels Take Manhattan"]]? ''A lot''. How horrified was everyone that the jokes were right? ''Very''.
** A few fans successfully guessed the revelation regarding Clara in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]": [[spoiler:that the modern London Clara is the original and somehow ends up splintered across time to save the Doctor's life countless times.]]
** After he first appeared in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]", fans speculated that [[spoiler:the War Doctor was a previously unknown incarnation of the Doctor from between his eighth and ninth incarnations]]. The minisode "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor The Night of the Doctor]]" proved this to be true.
** Missy's identity, which was revealed at the end of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater Dark Water]]", was correctly guessed ahead of time by savvy fans.
** Although the actual mechanics remained unspoiled, many fans predicted Clara's death at the end of Series 9 as early as the end of Series 8, though granted some expected her to die (as was actually originally planned) in the 2014 Christmas special.
** The official synopsis of post-Series 9 ChristmasEpisode [[Recap/DoctorWho2015CSTheHusbandsOfRiverSong "The Husbands of River Song"]] triggered predictions/fears that it would reveal [[spoiler: the circumstances of the Doctor and River Song's last night together]], and it did. However, the episode ended on a twist no one saw coming: [[spoiler:said night on Darillium lasts '''24 years''' in Earth/human time]]!
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E11WorldEnoughAndTime "World Enough and Time"]]:
*** Some fans figured Creator/StevenMoffat would kill off Bill because he was about to leave the show and would likely sweep the chessboard clean for Creator/ChrisChibnall. That, and they know [[AnyoneCanDie what to expect]] with Moffat by this point, and it made sense he would have one last crack at killing off a beloved character... though from there other fans correctly guessed that there would be more to Bill's fate than the {{Cliffhanger}} teased!
*** Because of the fake-out regeneration in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E8TheLieOfTheLand "The Lie of the Land"]], when the Doctor appeared to be dying in the opening sequence, a lot of people expected another tease of a regeneration, only for real this time.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls "The Doctor Falls"]]:
*** Quite a few fans predicted that Bill would be rescued from her fate by Heather from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E1ThePilot "The Pilot"]] given the latter character's established shapeshifting and time-and-space travelling abilities ''and'' the fact that [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt just killing off a companion for good just isn't in the revival's wheelhouse]]. Eagle-eyed viewers even caught a hint of {{Foreshadowing}} in the previous episode when she appeared in the window Bill was glancing out of!
*** After David Bradley's return was spoiled by newspapers, many fans correctly guessed he would appear as the First Doctor — after his turn as William Hartnell in ''Film/AnAdventureInSpaceAndTime'' — in the final scene.
** [[Recap/DoctorWho2017CSTwiceUponATime "Twice Upon a Time"]]: Long before the special aired, most fans figured that the Captain, who was not named in the pre-publicity, was somehow related to {{the Brigadier}}. The reveal of his name near the end confirmed him as a member of the Lethbridge-Stewart family.
** [[Recap/DoctorWho2019NYSResolution "Resolution"]]: Despite the advertising going to considerable lengths (until Christmas Day, anyway) in avoiding the revelation of who or what "the most dangerous creature in the universe" was, that description was enough for many to figure out [[ArchEnemy just who the Doctor was talking about]].
** When the first photos of Creator/NeilPatrickHarris's character in the 60th anniversary specials were revealed, the most common guess was he was playing the Celestial Toymaker, a First Doctor foe who [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome hadn't be seen]] since then, based off of him wearing what looked like toymaker attire and being in a workshop. This was confirmed to be the case on September 22.
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* QuestionableCasting:
** Creator/BarryLetts would later admit that Richard Franklin was miscast as Captain Mike Yates, as he felt that he was too young-looking and soft to play a military officer.
** Creator/JohnNathanTurner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to the role, one notable example being Creator/BerylReid as Captain Briggs in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]", due to Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment.
** Nicholas Parsons' casting as Reverend Wainwright in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]" might appear to be an example of this at first glance, given that he was best known for being a quiz show host at the time of the story's airing. In reality Parsons was actually a pretty experienced actor, although he hadn't done any TV acting work for over a decade when the story was made. (The director wasn't aware of this prior to recording of the story, but when he noticed Parsons could actually act a number of scenes were hastily rewritten to give his character more development.)
** Creator/EricRoberts as the Master in the TV movie.
** While the Creator/RussellTDavies era was praised for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves, some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many ''Doctor Who'' issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. Of course this reaction could be partially down to Dawkins being a controversial figure even among atheists, which has increased since this episode aired.
** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!"), Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!"), Creator/JodieWhittaker ("A ''woman!''").
** Some fans aren't sold on Creator/DavidTennant returning as a new incarnation of the Doctor, feeling it [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals the thunder]] from Creator/NcutiGatwa's casting and sets a bad precedent where previous actors can play new incarnations at the expense of lesser-known fresh faces, that this is a step back for a franchise that has always embraced change, and that it [[CreatorsPet gives Tennant special treatment]] for getting to play two incarnations of the Doctor while most actors have only gotten to play one; and, as always, dislike how it [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking screws with the numbering.]] Of additional concern is the perception that he and Creator/RussellTDavies are returning due to Creator/ChrisChibnall alienating some longtime fans with some of his decisions as showrunner, and that this does not bode well for the franchise's health.
** Creator/BarryLetts would later admit that Richard Franklin was miscast as Captain Mike Yates, as he felt that he was too young-looking and soft to play a military officer.
** Creator/JohnNathanTurner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to the role, one notable example being Creator/BerylReid as Captain Briggs in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]", due to Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment.
** Nicholas Parsons' casting as Reverend Wainwright in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]" might appear to be an example of this at first glance, given that he was best known for being a quiz show host at the time of the story's airing. In reality Parsons was actually a pretty experienced actor, although he hadn't done any TV acting work for over a decade when the story was made. (The director wasn't aware of this prior to recording of the story, but when he noticed Parsons could actually act a number of scenes were hastily rewritten to give his character more development.)
** Creator/EricRoberts as the Master in the TV movie.
** While the Creator/RussellTDavies era was praised for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves, some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many ''Doctor Who'' issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. Of course this reaction could be partially down to Dawkins being a controversial figure even among atheists, which has increased since this episode aired.
** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!"), Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!"), Creator/JodieWhittaker ("A ''woman!''").
** Some fans aren't sold on Creator/DavidTennant returning as a new incarnation of the Doctor, feeling it [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals the thunder]] from Creator/NcutiGatwa's casting and sets a bad precedent where previous actors can play new incarnations at the expense of lesser-known fresh faces, that this is a step back for a franchise that has always embraced change, and that it [[CreatorsPet gives Tennant special treatment]] for getting to play two incarnations of the Doctor while most actors have only gotten to play one; and, as always, dislike how it [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking screws with the numbering.]] Of additional concern is the perception that he and Creator/RussellTDavies are returning due to Creator/ChrisChibnall alienating some longtime fans with some of his decisions as showrunner, and that this does not bode well for the franchise's health.
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** Creator/BarryLetts would later admit that Richard Franklin was miscast as Captain Mike Yates, as he felt that he was too young-looking and soft to play a military officer.
** Creator/JohnNathanTurner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to the role, one notable example being Creator/BerylReid as Captain Briggs in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]", due to Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment.
** Nicholas Parsons' casting as Reverend Wainwright in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]" might appear to be an example of this at first glance, given that he was best known for being a quiz show host at the time of the story's airing. In reality Parsons was actually a pretty experienced actor, although he hadn't done any TV acting work for over a decade when the story was made. (The director wasn't aware of this prior to recording of the story, but when he noticed Parsons could actually act a number of scenes were hastily rewritten to give his character more development.)
** Creator/EricRoberts as the Master in the TV movie.
** While the Creator/RussellTDavies era was praised for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves, some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many ''Doctor Who'' issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. Of course this reaction could be partially down to Dawkins being a controversial figure even among atheists, which has increased since this episode aired.
** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!"), Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!"), Creator/JodieWhittaker ("A ''woman!''").
** Some fans aren't sold on Creator/DavidTennant returning as a new incarnation of the Doctor, feeling it [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals the thunder]] from Creator/NcutiGatwa's casting and sets a bad precedent where previous actors can play new incarnations at the expense of lesser-known fresh faces, that this is a step back for a franchise that has always embraced change, and that it [[CreatorsPet gives Tennant special treatment]] for getting to play two incarnations of the Doctor while most actors have only gotten to play one; and, as always, dislike how it [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking screws with the numbering.]] Of additional concern is the perception that he and Creator/RussellTDavies are returning due to Creator/ChrisChibnall alienating some longtime fans with some of his decisions as showrunner, and that this does not bode well for the franchise's health.
** Creator/BarryLetts would later admit that Richard Franklin was miscast as Captain Mike Yates, as he felt that he was too young-looking and soft to play a military officer.
** Creator/JohnNathanTurner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to the role, one notable example being Creator/BerylReid as Captain Briggs in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]", due to Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment.
** Nicholas Parsons' casting as Reverend Wainwright in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]" might appear to be an example of this at first glance, given that he was best known for being a quiz show host at the time of the story's airing. In reality Parsons was actually a pretty experienced actor, although he hadn't done any TV acting work for over a decade when the story was made. (The director wasn't aware of this prior to recording of the story, but when he noticed Parsons could actually act a number of scenes were hastily rewritten to give his character more development.)
** Creator/EricRoberts as the Master in the TV movie.
** While the Creator/RussellTDavies era was praised for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves, some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many ''Doctor Who'' issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. Of course this reaction could be partially down to Dawkins being a controversial figure even among atheists, which has increased since this episode aired.
** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!"), Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!"), Creator/JodieWhittaker ("A ''woman!''").
** Some fans aren't sold on Creator/DavidTennant returning as a new incarnation of the Doctor, feeling it [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals the thunder]] from Creator/NcutiGatwa's casting and sets a bad precedent where previous actors can play new incarnations at the expense of lesser-known fresh faces, that this is a step back for a franchise that has always embraced change, and that it [[CreatorsPet gives Tennant special treatment]] for getting to play two incarnations of the Doctor while most actors have only gotten to play one; and, as always, dislike how it [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking screws with the numbering.]] Of additional concern is the perception that he and Creator/RussellTDavies are returning due to Creator/ChrisChibnall alienating some longtime fans with some of his decisions as showrunner, and that this does not bode well for the franchise's health.
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** Creator/BarryLetts would later admit that Richard Franklin was miscast as Captain Mike Yates, as he felt that he was too young-looking and soft to play a military officer.
** Creator/JohnNathanTurner's era as producer in general has been strongly criticised by many fans for StuntCasting without much consideration as to whether the celebrity guest was actually suited to the role, one notable example being Creator/BerylReid as Captain Briggs in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]", due to Nathan Turner's love for light entertainment.
** Nicholas Parsons' casting as Reverend Wainwright in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]" might appear to be an example of this at first glance, given that he was best known for being a quiz show host at the time of the story's airing. In reality Parsons was actually a pretty experienced actor, although he hadn't done any TV acting work for over a decade when the story was made. (The director wasn't aware of this prior to recording of the story, but when he noticed Parsons could actually act a number of scenes were hastily rewritten to give his character more development.)
** Creator/EricRoberts as the Master in the TV movie.
** While the Creator/RussellTDavies era was praised for its intelligent casting of celebrity guests in roles that were suited to them, with celebrities who weren't really actors reserved for walk-on roles or cameos as themselves, some felt that not all their celebrity cameos exactly made sense, such as biologist UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins being interviewed about the astronomical location of earth. As with many ''Doctor Who'' issues, others thought the casting brilliant, given that Dawkins' impassioned emphasis on '''factual evidence''' in the episode was identical to his impassioned statements against the position of Young Earth Creationists in the (real life) popular media. Of course this reaction could be partially down to Dawkins being a controversial figure even among atheists, which has increased since this episode aired.
** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!"), Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!"), Creator/JodieWhittaker ("A ''woman!''").
** Some fans aren't sold on Creator/DavidTennant returning as a new incarnation of the Doctor, feeling it [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals the thunder]] from Creator/NcutiGatwa's casting and sets a bad precedent where previous actors can play new incarnations at the expense of lesser-known fresh faces, that this is a step back for a franchise that has always embraced change, and that it [[CreatorsPet gives Tennant special treatment]] for getting to play two incarnations of the Doctor while most actors have only gotten to play one; and, as always, dislike how it [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking screws with the numbering.]] Of additional concern is the perception that he and Creator/RussellTDavies are returning due to Creator/ChrisChibnall alienating some longtime fans with some of his decisions as showrunner, and that this does not bode well for the franchise's health.
