History YMMV / DoctorWho

18th Jul '16 1:39:07 AM TimeLordVictorious
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** After "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang", some fans yelled that a Dalek begging River for mercy was out of character for them and an example of Moffat CharacterShilling River. "The Magician's Apprentice"/"The Witch's Familiar" confirms that the Daleks do have a concept of mercy, and makes it a huge plot point. [[spoiler: {{FridgeBrilliance It's also later revealed that River supposedly killed the Doctor, which would give the Daleks a reason to be afraid of her}}.]]

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** After "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang", some fans yelled that a Dalek begging River for mercy was out of character for them and an example of Moffat CharacterShilling River. "The Magician's Apprentice"/"The Witch's Familiar" confirms that the Daleks do have a concept of mercy, and makes it a huge plot point. [[spoiler: {{FridgeBrilliance [[FridgeBrilliance It's also later revealed that River supposedly killed the Doctor, which would give the Daleks a reason to be afraid of her}}.her]].]]
18th Jul '16 1:38:26 AM TimeLordVictorious
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** After "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang", some fans yelled that a Dalek begging River for mercy was out of character for them and an example of Moffat CharacterShilling River. "The Magician's Apprentice"/"The Witch's Familiar" confirms that the Daleks do have a concept of mercy, and makes it a huge plot point.

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** After "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang", some fans yelled that a Dalek begging River for mercy was out of character for them and an example of Moffat CharacterShilling River. "The Magician's Apprentice"/"The Witch's Familiar" confirms that the Daleks do have a concept of mercy, and makes it a huge plot point. [[spoiler: {{FridgeBrilliance It's also later revealed that River supposedly killed the Doctor, which would give the Daleks a reason to be afraid of her}}.]]
14th Jul '16 10:04:59 AM TimeLordVictorious
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*** Peri and Mel have received similar treatment from Big Finish as well.
13th Jul '16 8:03:24 PM Anddrix
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** While neither of the Sixth Doctor's two seasons are considered high points for the show, most agree that his first season is okayish, and that his second and final season, "The Trial of a Time Lord" suffers from the show's behind-the-scenes issues becoming glaringly obvious on-screen. [[BaseBreaker Then again]], there are some fans who consider season 22 to be overly violent garbage that suffered from poor writing and unlikeable protagonists, while Trial of a Time Lord started to recover with its unified story and character development for both the Sixth Doctor and companion Peri -- only to suffer further rot in...

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** While neither of the Sixth Doctor's two seasons are considered high points for the show, most agree that his first season is okayish, and that his second and final season, "The Trial of a Time Lord" suffers from the show's behind-the-scenes issues becoming glaringly obvious on-screen. [[BaseBreaker Then again]], again, there are some fans who consider season 22 to be overly violent garbage that suffered from poor writing and unlikeable protagonists, while Trial of a Time Lord started to recover with its unified story and character development for both the Sixth Doctor and companion Peri -- only to suffer further rot in...
11th Jul '16 10:02:49 AM Sapphirea2
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** After witnessing the Doctor's judgment upon the Racnoss, Donna tells him that he "needs someone to stop him". Much later, we see him breaking under the strain of hearing the explorers on Mars dying... and he's all alone. And not even Captain Brook can get through to him. [[TearJerker Only her suicide can.]]
*** Taken even further in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent Heaven Sent]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", when ''Clara's death'' and the 4.5 billion years spent ''alone'' in the confession dial is what causes him to revert to this and try to bring back Clara while risking the existence of the ''entire universe.'' Only wiping The Doctor's memories of Clara is what manages to bring him back.

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** After witnessing the Doctor's judgment upon the Racnoss, Donna tells him that he "needs someone to stop him". Much later, we see him breaking under the strain of hearing the explorers on Mars dying... and he's all alone. And not even Captain Brook Brooke can get through to him. [[TearJerker Only her suicide can.]]
*** Taken ** The above is taken even further in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent Heaven Sent]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", when [[spoiler: ''Clara's death'' and the 4.5 billion years spent ''alone'' in the confession dial is what experiencing Cold-Blooded Torture causes him to revert to this snap and try to bring back Clara while risking the existence of the ''entire universe.'' Only wiping The Doctor's '' He has to not only have a Heel Realization but lose his memories of Clara to regain his best self, thanks to how badly damaged he is what manages to bring him back.by that point...which was partially the fault of '''his own people''', which arguably spoils the triumphs of the post-Series 7 specials. He saved Gallifrey for '''THIS''']].
11th Jul '16 9:53:15 AM Sapphirea2
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** Clara's exit from the show is written as a direct counterpoint to Donna's, where she was removed of all her agency and development just to focus on the Doctor's pain. Here he tries to do it again but has the technique bounced back at him, so he's the one who forgets all about Clara as she gets to keep having her own badass adventures.

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** Clara's exit from the show is written as a direct counterpoint to Donna's, where she was removed of all her agency and development just to focus on the Doctor's pain. Here he tries to do it again but [[spoiler: has the technique bounced back at him, so he's the one who forgets all about Clara as she gets to keep having her own badass adventures.adventures]].



** Clara Oswald, who on not one but two occasions actually pretended to be the Doctor.

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** Clara Oswald, who on not one but two occasions actually pretended to be the Doctor.Doctor and [[spoiler: became him in all but name at the end of Series 9]].



** While [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon "Kill the Moon"]] seems to be a BrokenBase for fans, critics for the most part loved it. In fact, critics are far less divided about the Twelfth Doctor era as a whole than the fans are -- with the key exception of "Sleep No More", there's pretty consistent opinions about the quality of his stories, up to and including the Series 9 finale "Hell Bent", which again broke the fanbase even as critics loved it.

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** While [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon "Kill the Moon"]] seems to be a BrokenBase for fans, critics for the most part loved it. In fact, the bulk of critics are seem far less divided and substantially more positive about the Twelfth Doctor era (particularly Series 9) as a whole than the fans are -- with the key exception of "Sleep No More", there's pretty consistent opinions about the quality of his stories, up to and including the Series 9 finale "Hell Bent", which again broke the fanbase even as critics loved it.fanbase.



** Clara also gets tons of it. One particularly popular little oddity seems to be to ship her - or any of her echoes - with practically ''every single character'' Peter Capaldi has ever played.
*** Due to Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman's intense chemistry and close friendship off-screen - if one wasn't aware that he'd been happily married for a quarter century and she was likewise in a long-term relationship, and ignoring the age disparity, one could easily mistake them for a real-life couple - a branch of shipping has emerged dedicated to shipping the ''actors themselves''.

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** Clara also gets tons of it. One particularly popular little oddity seems to be to ship her - or any of her echoes - with practically ''every single character'' Peter Capaldi has ever played.
*** Due
played. For that matter, due to Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman's intense chemistry and close friendship off-screen - -- if one wasn't aware that he'd been happily married for a quarter century and she was likewise in a long-term relationship, and ignoring the age disparity, one could easily mistake them for a real-life couple - -- a branch of shipping has emerged dedicated to shipping the ''actors themselves''.
10th Jul '16 9:21:47 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The show is a very LongRunner and for a very long time (due to home video not being invented) there was simply no way to find out the quality of stories you had missed (due to ''not having been born when they aired'') save for: 1) buying one of the [[PragmaticAdaptation heavily altered]] and [[TheyJustDidntCare variable]] in [[DoingItForTheArt quality]] Target novelisations, or 2) buying a book written by someone who had seen the episode in question summarising what it was about and, more importantly, saying whether or not it was good. Both these methods led to serious distortions of truth in the fandom.\\

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** The show is a very LongRunner and for a very long time (due to home video not being invented) there was simply no way to find out the quality of stories you had missed (due to ''not having been born when they aired'') save for: 1) buying one of the [[PragmaticAdaptation heavily altered]] and [[TheyJustDidntCare variable]] variable in [[DoingItForTheArt quality]] Target novelisations, or 2) buying a book written by someone who had seen the episode in question summarising what it was about and, more importantly, saying whether or not it was good. Both these methods led to serious distortions of truth in the fandom.\\
4th Jul '16 9:09:20 AM TimeLordVictorious
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*** Taken even further in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent Heaven Sent]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", when ''Clara's death'' and the 4.5 billion years spent ''alone'' in the confession dial is causes him to revert to this and try to bring back Clara while risking the existence of the ''entire universe.'' Only wiping The Doctor's memories of Clara is what manages to bring him back.

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*** Taken even further in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent Heaven Sent]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", when ''Clara's death'' and the 4.5 billion years spent ''alone'' in the confession dial is what causes him to revert to this and try to bring back Clara while risking the existence of the ''entire universe.'' Only wiping The Doctor's memories of Clara is what manages to bring him back.
4th Jul '16 9:07:39 AM TimeLordVictorious
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***Taken even further in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent Heaven Sent]]" and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", when ''Clara's death'' and the 4.5 billion years spent ''alone'' in the confession dial is causes him to revert to this and try to bring back Clara while risking the existence of the ''entire universe.'' Only wiping The Doctor's memories of Clara is what manages to bring him back.
4th Jul '16 5:34:57 AM N8han11
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*** That doesn't really fly, since Clara had no more (or less) right to choose than anyone else. It wasn't her baby or body. In fact, the whole abortion argument doesn't really line up since it's an egg that's essentially left by the parent to gestate on its own. In nature, it's typical for most of such eggs to be destroyed by predators.
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