History YMMV / DoctorWho

26th May '16 8:32:06 AM Sapphirea2
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** Post-Series 9, the most popular Twelfth Doctor fanfic plot involves undoing [[spoiler: the mind wipe]] he received in "Hell Bent" and from there [[spoiler: reuniting him with Clara Oswald]].

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** Post-Series 9, "The Husbands of River Song" raises the most popular question of [[spoiler: how the Twelfth Doctor fanfic plot involves undoing [[spoiler: the mind wipe]] he received in "Hell Bent" and from there [[spoiler: reuniting him with Clara Oswald]]. River Song spent those 24 years together]].
26th May '16 8:28:54 AM Sapphirea2
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** Post-Series 9, there's the question of what the Twelfth Doctor gets up to [[spoiler: with River Song during their 24-years-long last night together]]...

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** Post-Series 9, there's the question of what the most popular Twelfth Doctor gets up to fanfic plot involves undoing [[spoiler: the mind wipe]] he received in "Hell Bent" and from there [[spoiler: reuniting him with River Song during their 24-years-long last night together]]...Clara Oswald]].



** As of series 5, the Angels have started becoming this.

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** As of series Series 5, the Weeping Angels have started becoming became this.
20th May '16 2:44:55 AM LondonKdS
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** The Master underwent some serious Villain Decay in his two stories opposite the Sixth Doctor, "The Mark of the Rani" and "The Ultimate Foe", in both of which he achieves very little and mostly acts as comic relief to the Doctor's conflict with a new Time Lord villain. (The fact that he '''isn't''' the title character in "The Ultimate Foe" sums it up.) This was fortunately reversed in his only Seventh Doctor story, "Survival", in which his desperation to escape a decaying planet makes him even more ruthless than usual and his sadism is played up considerably more than it had been for a long time.
13th May '16 12:15:44 PM Sapphirea2
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* AbandonShipping: A subverted example. The announcement of the 12th Doctor as 50-something Peter Capaldi initially led many to jump off the 'Whouffle' ship as an ongoing concern, sticking to shipping Clara with just 11. This was spurred by a false rumor that Capaldi himself had allegedly stated that he was adamant about not having so much as romantic tension between the two, stating that there would be "no flirting". And then came episodes like "Time Heist" or "The Caretaker" where the Twelfth Doctor's outright jealousy towards Danny Pink was no longer just a matter of conjecture. At one point in "Caretaker" the Doctor attempts to "ship" Clara and a fellow teacher who happens to resemble the Eleventh Doctor! Which led many to now jump back ''on'' the ship and write 12/Clara fanfics, which have become quite popular and even gained a new name, "Whouffaldi." And then along came "Mummy on the Orient Express"... ''Then'' it turned out the "no flirting" thing was completely inflated by the media because certain segments of the fanbase would probably like to hear that - See [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbZtUQw1ng this interview]] where both Moffat and Capaldi basically state that they never said any such thing. Various statements by writers and actors alike have since confirmed that it is basically more of a mixture between them playing up the 'socially inept' part of socially inept genius and an AnchoredShip situation, to the point that certain lines in [[http://sswhouffaldi.tumblr.com/post/100726511943/x "Mummy on the Orient Express"]] and [[http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/32928/doctor-who-steven-moffat-on-series-8-missy-lies-and-leaks "Dark Water"]] were intended as indirect [[LoveConfession love confessions]]. With those, Doctor/Clara shot up there with Doctor/Rose, Doctor/River and Doctor/TARDIS as far as canonicity goes, only further confirmed from "Last Christmas" onward. The Series 9 finale trilogy was revealed in its conclusion to be one big anchored ship/[[spoiler: [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]]]] scenario between the Doctor and Clara (with general consensus being that the Doctor stating [[spoiler: "I had a duty of care"]] and Clara's [[spoiler: off-screen statement to the Doctor in the Cloisters]] were additional {{Love Confession}}s), though the main trope reasserted itself as the season ended: [[spoiler: the Doctor lost most of his memories of her, and Clara moved on without him...they had to, because their relationship was so close that he was willing to risk all of creation for it]].

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* AbandonShipping: A subverted example. The announcement of the 12th Doctor as 50-something Peter Capaldi initially led many to jump off the 'Whouffle' ship as an ongoing concern, sticking to shipping Clara with just 11. This was spurred by a false rumor that Capaldi himself had allegedly stated that he was adamant about not having so much as romantic tension between the two, stating that there would be "no flirting". And then came episodes like "Time Heist" or "The Caretaker" where the Twelfth Doctor's outright jealousy towards Danny Pink was no longer just a matter of conjecture. At one point in "Caretaker" the Doctor attempts to "ship" Clara and a fellow teacher who happens to resemble the Eleventh Doctor! Which led many to now jump back ''on'' the ship and write 12/Clara fanfics, which have become quite popular and even gained a new name, "Whouffaldi." And then along came "Mummy on the Orient Express"... ''Then'' it turned out the "no flirting" thing was completely inflated by the media because certain segments of the fanbase would probably like to hear that - See [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbZtUQw1ng this interview]] where both Moffat and Capaldi basically state that they never said any such thing. Various statements by writers and actors alike have since confirmed that it is basically more of a mixture between them playing up the 'socially inept' part of socially inept genius and an AnchoredShip situation, to the point that certain lines in [[http://sswhouffaldi.tumblr.com/post/100726511943/x "Mummy on the Orient Express"]] and [[http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/32928/doctor-who-steven-moffat-on-series-8-missy-lies-and-leaks "Dark Water"]] were intended as indirect [[LoveConfession love confessions]]. With those, Doctor/Clara shot up there with Doctor/Rose, Doctor/River and Doctor/TARDIS as far as canonicity goes, only further confirmed from "Last Christmas" onward. The Series 9 finale trilogy was revealed in its conclusion to be one big anchored ship/[[spoiler: [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]]]] scenario between the Doctor and Clara (with general consensus being that the Doctor stating [[spoiler: "I had a duty of care"]] and Clara's [[spoiler: off-screen statement to the Doctor in the Cloisters]] were additional {{Love Confession}}s), though the main trope reasserted itself as the season ended: an OfficialCouple anchored perhaps for good: [[spoiler: the Doctor lost most of his memories of her, and Clara moved on without him...they had to, because their relationship was so too close that he was willing to risk all of creation for it]].everyone's safety]].
3rd May '16 4:26:17 PM Berrenta
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** The Twelfth Doctor had a similar situation to the Tenth as far as debuts went (Series 8) -- the fantastic lead performance by Creator/PeterCapaldi was hamstrung by his character's personality initially coming off as too grumpy and insensitive (though this [[CharacterDevelopment starts softening]] as early as episode 3, "Robot of Sherwood"), companion Clara became a SpotlightStealingSquad and RomanticPlotTumor via belated CharacterDevelopment after serving as more puzzle than person in Series 7, and there were a few absurd-even-by-''Who''-standards plots in "Kill the Moon" and "In the Forest of the Night". Series 9, which consisted primarily of multi-parters -- allowing for character-based, introspective, slower-moving stories still filled with comedy and action -- took the strengths of Series 8 and '''ran''' with them. Even the debate over the finale "Hell Bent"'s effectiveness in tying up the year's {{Story Arc}}s (particularly Clara's fate) couldn't undo the acclaim many episodes, ''especially'' "Heaven Sent", and the season as a whole received. Also counts as ItGetsBetter, as familiarity with Series 8's events and ''especially'' how they affected Clara and the Doctor's CharacterDevelopment is needed to fully understand Series 9.

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** The Twelfth Doctor had a similar situation to the Tenth as far as debuts went (Series 8) -- the fantastic lead performance by Creator/PeterCapaldi was hamstrung by his character's personality initially coming off as too grumpy and insensitive (though this [[CharacterDevelopment starts softening]] as early as episode 3, "Robot of Sherwood"), companion Clara became a SpotlightStealingSquad and RomanticPlotTumor via belated CharacterDevelopment after serving as more puzzle than person in Series 7, and there were a few absurd-even-by-''Who''-standards plots in "Kill the Moon" and "In the Forest of the Night". Series 9, which consisted primarily of multi-parters -- allowing for character-based, introspective, slower-moving stories still filled with comedy and action -- took the strengths of Series 8 and '''ran''' with them. Even the debate over the finale "Hell Bent"'s effectiveness in tying up the year's {{Story Arc}}s (particularly Clara's fate) couldn't undo the acclaim many episodes, ''especially'' "Heaven Sent", and the season as a whole received. Also counts as ItGetsBetter, as familiarity Familiarity with Series 8's events and ''especially'' how they affected Clara and the Doctor's CharacterDevelopment is needed to fully understand Series 9.
27th Apr '16 11:53:26 AM skidoo23
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** Thanks to DVD releases, a lot of fans have given the critically maligned Seventh Doctor era a positive reassessment, with Season 26 in particular now acclaimed as one of the strongest of the entire series, even though that was the year the ratings bottomed out and the original series was terminated, while some fans were mounting a campaign to have the showrunner ousted.
** Modern Era showrunners Russell T Davies and Steven Moffat endure a lot of hatred from some aspects of fandom. There have been many cases of people going into modern Doctor Who expecting a trainwreck based upon what they've read on forums, etc., and coming away wondering what show the haters were actually watching.


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*** A term used to refer to inaccurate memories of lost or not-seen-in-decades episodes, "the memory cheats", is often invoked within ''Doctor Who'' fandom.


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** "Hell Bent" suggests that the lifespan of the universe is measured in mere ''billions'' of years, when in fact scientists estimate the universe is more likely to survive for many ''trillions'' of years. This error also reflects a research failure within the show itself, as the episode "Utopia" had already established that the end of the universe occurs at some point after the year 100 trillion.
27th Apr '16 11:43:48 AM skidoo23
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** Any hint of romance between the Doctor and his companions leads to endless debate and arguments between fans who either believe the Doctor to be asexual an incapable of such feelings and those who see it as a realistic scenario given his tendency to travel with beautiful young women with whom he often forms deep bonds in life-endangering circumstances (a scenario that usually triggers romance in most fiction). Even when the show makes it unambiguous that the Doctor and a companion are in a romance - or even, in one case, get ''married'' - the debate persists with some fans applauding it and others claiming it ruins the show or the characters.



** Most media coverage of new companion Karen Gillan (Amy Pond) at the start focused on her skimpy kissogram costume in her first episode.
** There were some media attempts at this when Jenna Coleman made her first appearance in "Asylum of the Daleks", in which Oswin wore a short, form-fitting dress, and the fact a miniseries titled ''Room at the Top'' in which Coleman appeared topless aired soon after didn't help matters. Ultimately averted, however, as the decision was made to dress Clara conservatively.



** The revival series go for eighty dollars for just ''one'' series. The seasons are usually sold in two parts, which are sometimes cheaper, but leaves the specials out. The 2012 box set went for about $240 and the 2014 for $350 and both are considered a steal; paying full-price for each season would easily cost half a thousand dollars. And then there's the Torchwood [=DVDs=]...

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** The revival series go DVDs varied in price wildly, with some parts of the world seeing rather high prices charged for eighty dollars for just ''one'' series. The seasons are usually sold in two parts, which are sometimes cheaper, but leaves box sets, though less-expensive half-season sets were also available and discounted reissues followed.
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the specials out. The 2012 box set went for about $240 and the 2014 for $350 and both are considered a steal; paying full-price for each season would easily advent of streaming, this cost half a thousand dollars. And then there's the Torchwood [=DVDs=]...issue has become moot for many people as they are now able to view virtually all existing episodes on services such as Netflix, Amazon and Playstation.
24th Apr '16 4:11:18 PM Temmere
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* BrokenBase: Now has [[Monster/{{DoctorWho}} its own page]].

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* BrokenBase: Now has [[Monster/{{DoctorWho}} [[BrokenBase/{{DoctorWho}} its own page]].
23rd Apr '16 7:26:03 AM Temmere
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** "Genesis of the Daleks" has two scenes that have loomed large not just over that story but over the entire franchise. The first is The Doctor asking Davros if he would use a virus that would destroy all life, and Davros's maniacal answer; the second is The Doctor, on the brink of wiping out the Daleks, wondering if he has the right to do so.
20th Apr '16 12:40:16 AM erforce
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** King Richard the Lionheart from ''The Crusaders'' and Count Scarlotti from ''City of Death'' would become [[StarWarsTheEmpireStrikesBack General Veers]] and [[IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade Walter Donovan]], the last bringing the RetroactiveRecognition inadvertently full circle.

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** King Richard the Lionheart from ''The Crusaders'' and Count Scarlotti from ''City of Death'' would become [[StarWarsTheEmpireStrikesBack General Veers]] and [[IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade Walter Donovan]], the last bringing the RetroactiveRecognition inadvertently full circle.
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