History YMMV / DoctorWho

22nd Aug '17 8:58:16 AM ChaoticNovelist
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%%* InternetBackdraft: The reveal that Creator/JennaColeman, a white woman, was cast as the companion for Series 7 had several fans upset, to say the least. It doesn't help that the previous ''potential'' companion from the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]]" was a woman of color who was killed off. Eventually, Steven Moffat admitted that the show could do a better job with representation, which helped lead to Pearl Mackie being cast.

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The reveal that Creator/JennaColeman, a white woman, was cast as the companion for Series 7 had several fans upset, to say the least. It doesn't help that the previous ''potential'' companion from the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]]" was a woman of color who was killed off. Eventually, Steven Moffat admitted that the show could do a better job with representation, which helped lead to Pearl Mackie being cast.
2nd Aug '17 4:09:29 PM john_e
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** Polly, Victoria and Zoe definitely fit into this category too. Victoria has the appearance of a Disney Princess with her huge eyes and blushing, fragile-seeming Victorian era manner and appearance.
** Clara's big and expressive brown eyes are ''an actual {{running gag}}'' during her tenure, and go together rather well with her short height and anxious, but sensitive and kind personality. Though the Doctor teases her about them, whenever she does use the {{puppy dog eyes}}, it's clear from the Doctor's behaviour that he can't stay mad at his companion.
** The Doctor himself is sometimes this, especially his Tenth incarnation. It went UpToEleven in his Eleventh incarnation, who was basically a big, overgrown puppy in human form. The Eighth incarnation in AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho also falls under this at times. So, interestingly, is the other-wise acerbic Twelfth incarnation, especially during Series 9 where it's clear the man needs a hug but rarely gets one when he needs it, and he reverts to a near-childlike state briefly when he's forced to say goodbye to [[spoiler: Clara, who is about to be KilledOffForReal]].
1st Aug '17 2:20:58 AM ninjacreeper48
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* InternetBackdraft: The reveal that Creator/JennaColeman, a white woman, was cast as the companion for Series 7 had several fans upset, to say the least. It doesn't help that the previous ''potential'' companion from the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]]" was a woman of color who was killed off. Eventually, Steven Moffat admitted that the show could do a better job with representation, which helped lead to Pearl Mackie being cast.

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* %%* InternetBackdraft: The reveal that Creator/JennaColeman, a white woman, was cast as the companion for Series 7 had several fans upset, to say the least. It doesn't help that the previous ''potential'' companion from the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]]" was a woman of color who was killed off. Eventually, Steven Moffat admitted that the show could do a better job with representation, which helped lead to Pearl Mackie being cast.
31st Jul '17 5:08:14 PM Tenma-Yuuki
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* [[BrokenBase/{{DoctorWho}} Broken Base]]
26th Jul '17 8:08:43 PM Anddrix
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** If killing ten percent of Earth's population wasn't enough for the "Harold Saxon" incarnation of the Master, then he definitely crosses it when he [[spoiler: kills his future self, Missy, just because she chose to perform a HeelFaceTurn.]]
26th Jul '17 7:59:08 PM Mario500
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** The Fourth Doctor. Regardless of who your favourite Doctor is or what you think of the quality of the show when he was the star, the simple fact is that Creator/TomBaker played the Doctor on television for the longest period of time and was watched by more people in the UK than any of his predecessors or successors (episode four of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath City of Death]]" continues to hold the record for the largest amount of viewers that a ''Doctor Who'' TV story has enjoyed on first UK broadcast). His episodes where also the ones that first began to break into the American market. His look, with the distinctive curly hair and eighteen-foot multicoloured scarf, is instantly iconic, and it's fair to say that almost every one of his successors, including those in the modern revival, has been inspired by or drawn on his portrayal in some way. It's also telling that Tom Baker was the only classic series Doctor to appear in the 50th anniversary special in person rather than as just stock footage. Put simply, even today for many people the Fourth Doctor simply is ''the'' Doctor.

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** The Fourth Doctor. Regardless of who your favourite Doctor is or what you think of the quality of the show when he was the star, the simple fact is that Creator/TomBaker played the Doctor on television for the longest period of time and was watched by more people in the UK than any of his predecessors or successors (episode four of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath City of Death]]" continues to hold the record for the largest amount of viewers that a ''Doctor Who'' TV story has enjoyed on first UK broadcast). His episodes where were also the ones that first began ones to break into the American market. His look, with the distinctive curly hair and eighteen-foot multicoloured scarf, is instantly iconic, and it's fair to say that almost every one of his successors, including those in the modern revival, has been inspired by or drawn on his portrayal in some way. It's also telling that Tom Baker was the only classic series Doctor to appear in the 50th anniversary special in person rather than as just stock footage. Put simply, even today for many people the Fourth Doctor simply is ''the'' Doctor.
23rd Jul '17 3:07:59 AM TimeLordVictorious
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** One could argue "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis Logopolis]]" for The Master. Yes before he had manipulated, threatened, and killed lots and lots of people, but compared to the number of people The Doctor had manipulated, threatened and killed, they were basically even, and before Delgado died he was even supposed to have a DeathEqualsRedemption plot. And then, when he gets a proper new body again, he destroys one-quarter of the universe, including the home planet of one of the Doctor's companions (though admittedly that was an accident he caused by going on a killing spree). And the new body he got is the corpse of said companion's father. After that, there was really no going back for him.

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** One could argue "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis Logopolis]]" for The Master.the incarnation of the Master as portrayed by Anthony Ainley. Yes before he had manipulated, threatened, and killed lots and lots of people, but compared to the number of people The Doctor had manipulated, threatened and killed, they were basically even, and before Delgado died he was even supposed to have a DeathEqualsRedemption plot. And then, when he gets a proper new body again, he destroys one-quarter of the universe, including the home planet of one of the Doctor's companions (though admittedly that was an accident he caused by going on a killing spree). And the new body he got is the corpse of said companion's father. After that, there was really no going back for him.that incarnation.


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** If killing ten percent of Earth's population wasn't enough for the "Harold Saxon" incarnation of the Master, then he definitely crosses it when he [[spoiler: kills his future self, Missy, just because she chose to perform a HeelFaceTurn.]]
21st Jul '17 5:43:16 AM JamesAustin
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%%** [[ExecutiveMeddling Michael Grade]], period.

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%%** [[ExecutiveMeddling ** Michael Grade]], period.Grade, period, due to how his ExecutiveMeddling during his time as BBC Controller is held responsible for cancelling the original series, even as it happened after he stepped down.



** The series does outdo itself constantly in this area due to thrills and scares, but very few can compare to [[spoiler: the sudden reemergence of the ''TIME LORDS'']] in the final scene of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]" Part One, [[spoiler:and their TitleDrop of just what they plan to do.]]

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** The series does outdo itself constantly in this area due to thrills and scares, but very few can compare to [[spoiler: the sudden reemergence of the ''TIME LORDS'']] LORDS'' in the final scene of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]" Part One, [[spoiler:and and their TitleDrop of just what they plan to do.]]



** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]": the Doctor had a secret incarnation that he hid because he did something so terrible that he renounced the name of "the Doctor": He was the one who ended the Time War by wiping out the Time Lords (or, as it turned out, only believed that he did).



** Meta example: After the announcement of Peter Capaldi stepping down as the Doctor, speculation went around for who would be the next Doctor, the most popular theory being a female Doctor. Come July 16th 2017 the reveal that actress Creator/JodieWhittaker was selected as the Thirteenth Doctor, the first ever female to take on the lead role.
%% ** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]",
* HomeGrownHero: The Doctor sure seems to have a thing for British assistants on his galaxy-saving travels. Then again, the [[AliensInCardiff aliens love Cardiff]] too.

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** Meta example: After the announcement of Peter Capaldi stepping down as the Doctor, speculation went around for who would be the next Doctor, the most popular theory being a female Doctor. Come July 16th 16, 2017 the reveal that actress Creator/JodieWhittaker was selected as the Thirteenth Doctor, the first ever female to take on the lead role.
%% ** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor The Name of the Doctor]]",
* HomeGrownHero: The Doctor sure seems to have a thing for the British isles; from speaking with a British accent, having British assistants on his galaxy-saving travels.travels, to settling in them for the ''very brief times'' he does something remotely resembling to settle down. Then again, the [[AliensInCardiff aliens love Cardiff]] too.



** And never, ever call him ''Music/TheWho''. Good natured fans might chuckle at the coincidence that both are British icons that started in the 60s and the band's song are actually quite good, and may occasionally crack a joke about it. The more rabid ones will most likely unleash a verbal storm at you for mixing up the two, followed by a lecture about the Doctor's name.

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** And never, ever call him ''Music/TheWho''. Good natured fans might chuckle at the coincidence that both are British icons that started in the 60s and the band's song are actually quite good, 60s, and may occasionally crack a joke about it. The more rabid ones will most likely unleash a verbal storm at you for mixing up the two, followed by a lecture about the Doctor's name.



** The Ninth Doctor, both in show and meta considering [[spoiler: he firmly believes he wiped out the Time Lords in a desperate way to save all of time even if it meant becoming [[LastOfHisKind the last Time Lord]]. Meta considering Eccelston stayed on the show for ''one'' season for a myriad of reasons.
** Amy Pond. Left behind by the Doctor when they first meet ''as a little girl'', [[spoiler: losing Rory to the Crack and forgetting he ever existed, ''losing her baby'' who then is revealed to be River Song, having her faith in the Doctor shattered MULTIPLE TIMES and a slew of problems that lead to her and Rory dying to the Weeping Angels]]. ''God''. For all her flaws, you gotta hug her.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: In regards to the revival, not everyone cared for the prospect of the show "going back to basics" as was promised with the Twelfth Doctor era. It's been criticized for abandoning some of the tropes familiar to audiences since the show came back in 2005, with the choice to AbandonShip being a particular issue -- though, as noted above, ''that'' turned out to be a huge subversion. The intentionally 1980s-style theme arrangement introduced in 2014 similarly divided fans.
** This trope ''is'' what actually lead to the BBC approve of the decision for a female Doctor: The show currently up from Series 8-10 had been having multiple issues with ratings and views, especially with the accusations of the trope above, which lead to the BBC okaying the choice of a female Doctor, and beforehand allowing the same to apply to the the Master becoming Missy in Series 8.

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** The Ninth Doctor, both in show and meta meta. In show considering [[spoiler: he firmly believes he wiped out the Time Lords in a desperate way to save all of time even if it meant becoming [[LastOfHisKind the last Time Lord]]. Meta considering Eccelston stayed on the show for ''one'' season for a myriad of reasons.
** Amy Pond. Left behind by the Doctor when they first meet ''as a little girl'', [[spoiler: losing Rory to the Crack and forgetting he ever existed, ''losing her baby'' who then is revealed to be River Song, having her faith in the Doctor shattered MULTIPLE TIMES and a slew of problems that lead to her and Rory dying to being zapped by the Weeping Angels]].Angels, thus losing contact with the Doctor and dying in the past separated from him]]. ''God''. For all her flaws, you gotta hug her.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: In regards to the revival, not everyone cared for the prospect of the show "going back to basics" as was promised with the Twelfth Doctor era. It's been criticized for abandoning some of the tropes familiar to audiences since the show came back in 2005, with the choice to AbandonShip being a particular issue -- though, as noted above, ''that'' turned out to be a huge subversion. The intentionally 1980s-style theme arrangement introduced in 2014 similarly divided fans.
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fans. This trope ''is'' ended up being what actually lead to the BBC approve of the decision for a female Doctor: The show currently up from Series 8-10 of the revival had been having multiple issues with ratings and views, especially with the accusations of the trope above, which lead to the BBC okaying the choice of a female Doctor, and beforehand allowing the same to apply to the the Master becoming Missy in Series 8.



** For more eagle-eyed fans, it was no surprise the show would let a female actress take the role of the Doctor.

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** For more eagle-eyed fans, it was no surprise the show would let The announcement that a female actress would take the role of the Doctor.Doctor in 2017 became viral pretty much immediately, both because of the annoucement itself and the controversies that followed, many months before the female even had her first full episode.
21st Jul '17 5:04:03 AM Scabbard
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** This trope ''is'' what actually lead to the BBC approve of the decision for a female Doctor: The show currently up from Series 8-10 had been having multiple issues with ratings and views, especially with the accusations of the trope above, which lead to the BBC Okaying the choice of a female Doctor, and beforehand allowing the same to apply to the the Master becoming Missy in Series 8.

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** This trope ''is'' what actually lead to the BBC approve of the decision for a female Doctor: The show currently up from Series 8-10 had been having multiple issues with ratings and views, especially with the accusations of the trope above, which lead to the BBC Okaying okaying the choice of a female Doctor, and beforehand allowing the same to apply to the the Master becoming Missy in Series 8.
21st Jul '17 5:02:09 AM Scabbard
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* Long before the internet, the TARDIS was the name for things that are BiggerOnTheInside, and "Doctor Who" was the archetype of a time traveller, at least in Britain. The Daleks and their "sink plunger" attachment hve a similar penetration into popular imagination.

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* ** Long before the internet, the TARDIS was the name for things that are BiggerOnTheInside, and "Doctor Who" was the archetype of a time traveller, at least in Britain. The Daleks and their "sink plunger" attachment hve a similar penetration into popular imagination.
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