History YMMV / DoctorWho

21st Nov '17 11:11:49 AM Vampireandthen
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** The Valeyard is the Doctor's dark side, which has split off from him.....or something. Basically, he's an evil version of the Doctor from somewhere between his twelfth and final incarnation. The concept of the Doctor going bad is terrifying in so many ways, and the Valeyard is still out there as well. And yet, he has only ever shown up in one season, The Trail of a Time Lord, and his true nature was only revealed in the last two episodes. He has expended universe appearances as well, but nothing whatsoever in the show since then, aside from a shout out by the Great Intelligence. Whether he will ever come back or not is up for debate.
18th Nov '17 2:08:58 AM OceanHomer
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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent "Heaven Sent"]]: A an episode in which the Doctor is (almost) completely alone for the entire hour in a surreal scenario sparked by the death of his companion.

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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent "Heaven Sent"]]: A an episode in which the Doctor is (almost) completely alone for the entire hour in a surreal scenario sparked by the death of his companion. Unlike the other episodes of this type, it's widely acclaimed across the board as a modern classic.
14th Nov '17 5:32:20 AM AndIntroducingALeg
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** Yes, Daleks CAN climb stairs. And we've known it since the 1960s, and saw it happen in 1988.
7th Nov '17 4:02:48 AM Sapphirea2
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** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E5Oxygen Oxygen]]" has the Twelfth Doctor [[spoiler:becoming permanently blind due to him entering the vacuum of space without a helmet to save Bill]]. Some see the "permanent" portion as not going to happen, due to the already established fact that [[spoiler:he can still use some of his regeneration energy to heal an injury, even if he isn't regenerating]], despite there being a possibility that this issue can last throughout the rest of Series 10, and [[spoiler:possibly being the trigger of his regeneration at the 2017 Christmas special]], . Also, due to footage in Series 10 trailers showing [[spoiler:the Doctor seemingly regenerating]], people are already pointing out that [[spoiler:this scene is how he will get his eyesight back]]. And there are also some who think that "[[spoiler:The Doctor is blind]]" storyline will be resolved quickly in one of the episodes in the three-parter serial that begins as of the next episode.

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** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E5Oxygen Oxygen]]" has the Twelfth Doctor [[spoiler:becoming permanently blind due to him entering the vacuum of space without a helmet to save Bill]]. Some see saw the "permanent" portion as not going to happen, this due to the already established fact that [[spoiler:he can still use some of his regeneration energy to heal an injury, even if he isn't regenerating]], despite there being a possibility and figured that this issue can last throughout it would be taken care of by the rest end of Series 10, and [[spoiler:possibly being the trigger of his regeneration season or even within the three-part "Monks" arc that started immediately afterward. Turned out that [[spoiler: they were right -- it's healed mid-arc, but at a heavy price, in "The Pyramid at the 2017 End of the World"]].
** Later that season "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E11WorldEnoughAndTime World Enough and Time]]" teased two things at the top and bottom of the episode, respectively -- that Twelve would [[spoiler: regenerate ''before'' the
Christmas special]], . Also, due to footage in Series 10 trailers showing [[spoiler:the show]] and Bill would [[spoiler: die as the Cyberman that Saxon!Master converted her into]], which would be a massive DownerEnding for the season. The outcome of "The Doctor seemingly regenerating]], people are already pointing out that [[spoiler:this scene Falls"? [[spoiler: Twelve puts it off a little longer while Bill is how he will get his eyesight back]]. And there are also some who think that "[[spoiler:The Doctor is blind]]" storyline will be resolved quickly in one of the episodes saved and restored to humanoid form by Heather]]. Subverted in the three-parter serial that begins as of Doctor's case because they ''would'' have done it had there not been a need for a ChristmasSpecial for 2017 and [[spoiler: the next episode.original plan to have it be Thirteen's debut didn't pan out]].
1st Nov '17 4:00:56 PM Pren
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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E7ThePyramidAtTheEndOfTheWorld "The Pyramid at the End of the World"]] is ''supposed'' to be about the Doctor's hubris and fear of admitting he's [[spoiler: blind]] leading to a tragic {{Cliffhanger}} in which TheBadGuyWins, but is so rife with ''other'' characters making idiotic decisions and what might be the most poorly designed laboratory ''ever'' that he really does come off as the smartest person on Earth for all his blundering. Give him a break!

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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E7ThePyramidAtTheEndOfTheWorld "The Pyramid at the End of the World"]] is ''supposed'' to be about the Doctor's hubris and fear of admitting he's [[spoiler: blind]] leading to a tragic {{Cliffhanger}} in which TheBadGuyWins, but is so rife with ''other'' characters making idiotic decisions and what might be the most poorly designed laboratory ''ever'' that he really does come off as the smartest person on Earth for all his blundering. Give him a break!break! Though the fans are a bit more forgiving of this one, given that Moffat was heavily distracted by the impending death of his mother during the writing process (actually finishing the script in her hospital room).
3rd Oct '17 11:17:34 AM Jake18
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** Similarly Creator/PaulMcGann. While many proclaimed him the worst Doctor for the TV Movie, a lot of people over time have decided he actually [[TookTheBadScriptSeriously gave a great performance]] and was hardly at fault for the poorly-received script, and his many appearances in Big Finish have won him a lot of fans. "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor The Night of the Doctor]]", showing his regeneration and acknowledging his audio adventures as canon, has also helped.

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** Similarly Creator/PaulMcGann. While many proclaimed him the worst Doctor for the TV Movie, a lot of people over time have decided he actually [[TookTheBadScriptSeriously [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously gave a great performance]] and was hardly at fault for the poorly-received script, and his many appearances in Big Finish have won him a lot of fans. "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor The Night of the Doctor]]", showing his regeneration and acknowledging his audio adventures as canon, has also helped.
26th Sep '17 11:36:33 PM The12thDoctor
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** Averted with Series 9, which is generally considered to be one of the strongest seasons of the revival. Season 10, on the other hand, was seen by many as a slight step back, with the "Monks Trilogy" being perhaps the most disliked story arc in the revival's run, and most of the other episodes being SoOkayItsAverage, though the season did at least end with a widely acclaimed two-parter.

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** Averted with Series 9, which is generally considered to be one of the strongest seasons of the revival. Season Series 10, on the other hand, was seen by many as a slight step back, with the "Monks Trilogy" being perhaps the most disliked story arc in the revival's run, and most of the other episodes being SoOkayItsAverage, SoOkayItsAverage and not taking many creative risks storywise, though the season did at least end with a widely acclaimed two-parter.
26th Sep '17 11:51:21 AM KizunaTallis
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*** ''Community'' creator Creator/DanHarmon's other well-known series ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' has also become this with Whovians due to being influenced by ''DW''.
23rd Sep '17 3:35:07 AM OlfinBedwere
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** While not a severe case of this trope, the last full seasons for both the First and Second Doctors are felt to be a slight step down after two very solid seasons each. Like with Pertwee, there is a cheeky game amongst fandom in trying to spot the moment when Creator/PatrickTroughton 'quits' the series.
** The Third Doctor's last season is easily his worst, despite the arrival of Sarah Jane. Even Creator/JonPertwee and producer Barry Letts admitted this being the case, due to a combination of fatigue (the duo, plus script editor Creator/TerranceDicks had been in the job longer than any of their predecessors) and depression over the death of Roger Delgado.
** The Fourth Doctor's era is generally regarded to have gone downhill after the departures of Philip Hinchcliffe and Robert Holmes. Whether or not this applies to his final season usually depends on whether you're the type who thinks ''Doctor Who'' should be serious sci-fi (in which case it's usually regarded as a decent send-off) or whether you think it should be campy and fun (in which case it's where the Fourth Doctor's run completely went to hell). Tom Baker, for his part, relished the LighterAndSofter tone, often ad-libbing his own jokes and pantomimes -- much to the annoyance of the crew.
** The Fifth Doctor's middle season is generally considered the weakest of his three, due to nearly every story being SoOkayItsAverage and lacking any of the memorable episodes such as "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]" in Davison's first season, and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E6TheCavesOfAndrozani The Caves of Androzani]]" in his last. In fact, Creator/PeterDavison ''himself'' might support this viewpoint to some degree - in one of the DVD Commentaries he mentions that, although he'd been taking the advice of Creator/PatrickTroughton to leave after just three seasons, he essentially felt like his last season was better written overall and that if he'd had writing of that level earlier in his tenure, he'd have seriously considered coming back for just one more season. For the record, Creator/ColinBaker was already set to succeed Davison by the time Season 21 even started airing, and by the time Davison was reconsidering his decision to ''not'' renew his contract, it was too late to do so.
** While neither of the Sixth Doctor's two seasons are considered high points for the show, most agree that his first season is okayish, and that his second and final season, "The Trial of a Time Lord" suffers from the show's behind-the-scenes issues becoming glaringly obvious on-screen. Then again, there are some fans who consider season 22 to be overly violent garbage that suffered from poor writing and unlikeable protagonists, while Trial of a Time Lord started to recover with its unified story and character development for both the Sixth Doctor and companion Peri -- only to suffer further rot in...

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** While not a severe case of this trope, the last full seasons for both the First and Second Doctors (Seasons 3 and 6 respectively) are felt to be a slight step down after two very solid seasons each. Like with Pertwee, there is a cheeky game amongst fandom in trying to spot the moment when Creator/PatrickTroughton 'quits' the series.
** The Third Doctor's last season (Season 11) is easily his worst, despite the arrival of Sarah Jane. Even Creator/JonPertwee and producer Barry Letts admitted this being the case, due to a combination of fatigue (the duo, plus script editor Creator/TerranceDicks had been in the job longer than any of their predecessors) and depression over the death of Roger Delgado.
** The Fourth Doctor's era is generally regarded to have gone downhill after the departures of Season 14, when Philip Hinchcliffe and Robert Holmes. left (with Creator/RobertHolmes following him out the door partway through the following season). Whether or not this applies to his final season (Season 18) in particular usually depends on whether you're the type who thinks ''Doctor Who'' should be serious sci-fi (in sci-fi, in which case it's usually regarded as a decent send-off) an inversion of the trope, or whether you think it should be campy and fun (in fun, in which case it's where the Fourth Doctor's run completely went to hell).hell. Tom Baker, for his part, relished the LighterAndSofter tone, often ad-libbing his own jokes and pantomimes -- much to the annoyance of the crew.
** The Fifth Doctor's middle season (Season 20) is generally considered the weakest of his three, due to nearly every story being SoOkayItsAverage and lacking any of the memorable episodes such as "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]" in Davison's first season, and "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E6TheCavesOfAndrozani The Caves of Androzani]]" in his last. In fact, Creator/PeterDavison ''himself'' might support this viewpoint to some degree - in one of the DVD Commentaries he mentions that, although he'd been taking the advice of Creator/PatrickTroughton to leave after just three seasons, he essentially felt like his last season was better written overall and that if he'd had writing of that level earlier in his tenure, he'd have seriously considered coming back for just one more season. For the record, Creator/ColinBaker was already set to succeed Davison by the time Season 21 even started airing, and by the time Davison was reconsidering his decision to ''not'' renew his contract, it was too late to do so.
** While neither of the Sixth Doctor's two seasons are considered high points for the show, most agree that his first season (Season 22) is okayish, and that his second and final season, "The Trial of a Time Lord" (Season 23) suffers from the show's behind-the-scenes issues becoming glaringly obvious on-screen. Then again, there are some fans who consider season 22 to be overly violent garbage that suffered from poor writing and unlikeable protagonists, while Trial of a Time Lord started to recover with its unified story and character development for both the Sixth Doctor and companion Peri -- only to suffer further rot in...



** Averted with Series 9, which is generally considered to be one of the strongest seasons of the revival.

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** Averted with Series 9, which is generally considered to be one of the strongest seasons of the revival. Season 10, on the other hand, was seen by many as a slight step back, with the "Monks Trilogy" being perhaps the most disliked story arc in the revival's run, and most of the other episodes being SoOkayItsAverage, though the season did at least end with a widely acclaimed two-parter.
19th Sep '17 12:33:15 PM Intyre
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: In regards to the revival, not everyone cared for the prospect of the show "going back to basics" as was promised with the Twelfth Doctor era. It's been criticized for abandoning some of the tropes familiar to audiences since the show came back in 2005, with the choice to AbandonShip being a particular issue -- though, as noted above, ''that'' turned out to be a huge subversion. The intentionally 1980s-style theme arrangement introduced in 2014 similarly divided fans. This trope ended up being what actually lead to the BBC approve of the decision for a female Doctor: The show from Series 8-10 of the revival had been having multiple issues with ratings and views, especially with the accusations of the trope above, which lead to the BBC okaying the choice of a female Doctor, and beforehand allowing the same to apply to the the Master becoming Missy in Series 8.



** The Twelfth Doctor hasn't been as popular with mainstream audiences as Ten and Eleven were/are. After Matt Smith, the fandom was expecting someone just as great, or better. Matt was 26 (and looked 18, perfect skin and all); younger fans may have been disappointed with the 55-when-cast Creator/PeterCapaldi in part out of hoping for another Doctor who looked their age. Moreover, Twelve's by-design pricklier, broodier personality didn't sit well with those used to cheery Ten and Eleven. Twelve has '''a lot''' of CharacterDevelopment and becomes YoungerAndHipper in spirit as time passes, but he's still at an arm's-length to general audiences in a way that Tennant and Smith never were. In a case of CriticalDissonance, Capaldi is regarded by critics as one of the, if not ''the'', best actors to have played the part and deserving of a better reception, with his seasons (Series 9 especially) regarded as GrowingTheBeard for the show again after the SeasonalRot of Smith's final two seasons.

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** The Twelfth Doctor hasn't been as popular with mainstream audiences as Ten and Eleven were/are. After Matt Smith, the fandom was expecting someone just as great, or better. Matt was 26 (and looked 18, perfect skin and all); younger fans may have been disappointed with the 55-when-cast Creator/PeterCapaldi Peter Capaldi in part of the Twelfth Doctor out of hoping for another Doctor who looked their age. Moreover, Twelve's by-design pricklier, broodier personality didn't sit well with those used to cheery Ten and Eleven. Though Twelve has '''a lot''' a lot of CharacterDevelopment Character Development and becomes YoungerAndHipper Younger and Hipper in spirit as time passes, but he's still at an arm's-length to general audiences in a way that Tennant and Smith never were. passes. In a case of CriticalDissonance, Critical Dissonance, Capaldi is regarded by critics as one of the, if not ''the'', the, best actors to have played the part and deserving of a better reception, with his seasons (Series 9 especially) regarded as GrowingTheBeard Growing the Beard for the show again after the SeasonalRot Seasonal Rot of Smith's final two seasons.



** After the polarising Series 8 (which was critically acclaimed and heavily criticized in equal measure), Series 9 did this with fans and critics alike, with many episodes attracting strong critical praise. Its StoryArc is thematic/conceptual (hybrids, consequences, the Doctor's lonely existence, Clara becoming his DistaffCounterpart), allowing for strong ''almost''-standalone stories where most Series 8 episodes were bogged down by the Clara's double life/Danny Pink/Nethersphere arc. The return of the "multi-parter" format allowed plots and characters to be fleshed out better. [[TookALevelInKindness The Twelfth Doctor's character also warms significantly]]; he is no longer has ''quite'' the cynical, misanthropic personality that many fans found rather jarring. Its overall critical reception was probably the best since Series 5.

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** After the polarising Series 8 (which was critically acclaimed and heavily criticized in equal measure), Series 9 did this with fans and critics alike, with many episodes attracting strong critical praise. Its StoryArc is thematic/conceptual (hybrids, consequences, the Doctor's lonely existence, Clara becoming his DistaffCounterpart), allowing for strong ''almost''-standalone stories where most Series 8 episodes were bogged down by the Clara's double life/Danny Pink/Nethersphere arc. The return of the "multi-parter" format allowed plots and characters to be fleshed out better. [[TookALevelInKindness The Twelfth Doctor's character also warms significantly]]; he is no longer has ''quite'' the cynical, misanthropic personality that many some fans found rather jarring. Its overall critical reception was probably the best since Series 5.



** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!") and Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!").

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** The reaction of some fans to the casting of Creator/MattSmith ("Too young!") and young!"), Creator/PeterCapaldi ("Too old!").old!"), Creator/JodieWhittaker ("A ''woman!''").
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