History YMMV / Chinatown

11th Aug '16 10:25:33 PM PrincessGwen
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* ItWasHisSled: It's such a famous film that "[[spoiler:[[WhamLine She's my sister and my daughter!]]]]" has lost it's power as TheReveal to many.

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* ItWasHisSled: It's such a famous film that "[[spoiler:[[WhamLine She's my sister and my daughter!]]]]" has lost it's its power as TheReveal to many.
10th Aug '16 7:21:28 PM Teakay
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler:The sexual abuse Noah Cross commits within the movie]] could be seen in a whole new light after attention was brought to a real-life court case implicating Polanski himself in something similar. [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19918_6-terrible-decisions-that-gave-us-great-movie-moments_p2.html This]] article on Website/{{Cracked}} explicitly notes the parallels between how [[spoiler:Cross]] gets off [[KarmaHoudini scott-free]] for his crimes and how Polanski himself escaped jail time by fleeing the U.S.

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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler:The sexual abuse Noah Cross commits within the movie]] could be seen in a whole new light after attention was brought to a real-life court case implicating Polanski himself in something similar. [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19918_6-terrible-decisions-that-gave-us-great-movie-moments_p2.html This]] article on Website/{{Cracked}} explicitly notes the parallels between how [[spoiler:Cross]] gets off [[KarmaHoudini scott-free]] for his crimes and how Polanski himself escaped jail time by fleeing the U.S. What's more, Polanski was the one who changed it to a DownerEnding.
6th Jul '16 10:33:52 AM hullflyer
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Noah Cross is a 1930's CorruptCorporateExecutive who doesn't even know his own net worth, outside of the fact that it's a great deal over ten million, only caring about accumulating as much money and power as possible. In the midst of a drought in Los Angeles, Cross dumps away thousands of gallons of water in order to build up support for his new reservoir project. Drying up the northwest San Fernando Valley by depriving it of water, Cross also poisons the wells and blows up the water tanks of the valley's landowners to coerce them into selling their land dirt cheap. Once the valley is his, Cross plans to use his new proposed reservoir to irrigate the land and increase its worth by millions. However, his business partner, and son-in-law, Hollis Mulwray, hinders his plan. Previously Cross had convinced Mulwray to build a dam in an area known to be geologically unstable. The result was that the dam burst and 500 people died. Even though Cross knows that the new reservoir would suffer from the exact same geologic instability as the previous one, he still demands Mulwray build it. After Mulwray discovers Cross's crimes and conspiracy, Cross kills him by drowning him in a tide pool. However, the most disgusting crime Cross committed was what he did to his daughter Evelyn. When she was just 15 years old, [[ParentalIncest Cross raped her]], traumatizing her for life and fathering another daughter with her. Cross's secondary goal in the movie is to take possession of his "grandchild" with the intention of subjecting her to the same abuse he subjected Evelyn to. Despite all of this, Cross says he doesn't blame himself for his actions because he believes, under the right circumstances, men are capable of anything, ignorant of the fact that this is only true for [[TheSociopath men like him]].]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Noah Cross is a 1930's CorruptCorporateExecutive who doesn't even know his own net worth, outside of the fact that it's a great deal over ten million, million[[note]]almost 200 million in 2016[[/note]], only caring about accumulating as much money and power as possible. In the midst of a drought in Los Angeles, Cross dumps away thousands of gallons of water in order to build up support for his new reservoir project. Drying up the northwest San Fernando Valley by depriving it of water, Cross also poisons the wells and blows up the water tanks of the valley's landowners to coerce them into selling their land dirt cheap. Once the valley is his, Cross plans to use his new proposed reservoir to irrigate the land and increase its worth by millions. However, his business partner, and son-in-law, Hollis Mulwray, hinders his plan. Previously Cross had convinced Mulwray to build a dam in an area known to be geologically unstable. The result was that the dam burst and 500 people died. Even though Cross knows that the new reservoir would suffer from the exact same geologic instability as the previous one, he still demands Mulwray build it. After Mulwray discovers Cross's crimes and conspiracy, Cross kills him by drowning him in a tide pool. However, the most disgusting crime Cross committed was what he did to his daughter Evelyn. When she was just 15 years old, [[ParentalIncest Cross raped her]], traumatizing her for life and fathering another daughter with her. Cross's secondary goal in the movie is to take possession of his "grandchild" with the intention of subjecting her to the same abuse he subjected Evelyn to. Despite all of this, Cross says he doesn't blame himself for his actions because he believes, under the right circumstances, men are capable of anything, ignorant of the fact that this is only true for [[TheSociopath men like him]].]]
30th Nov '15 10:20:47 PM AnotherGuy
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Noah Cross gets away it with all. Mrs. Mulray is dead, her sister/daughter is taken away by Noah, Jake can't do anything to stop this and is told the famous line before solemnly walking away]]. If any of that didn't make you jerk a tear then the absolutely depressing music that plays when Jake's walking away certainly will.
-->"Forget it, Jake...It's Chinatown."

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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Noah TearJerker:
**[[spoiler:Noah
Cross gets away it with all. Mrs. Mulray is dead, her sister/daughter is taken away by Noah, Jake can't do anything to stop this and is told the famous line before solemnly walking away]]. If any of that didn't make you jerk a tear then the absolutely depressing music that plays when Jake's walking away certainly will.
-->"Forget --->"Forget it, Jake...It's Chinatown."
** In the sequel, the very last line: "It (the past) never goes away.
" Neither Jake [[spoiler: nor Katherine]] can ever catch a break or forget.
29th Jun '15 12:48:53 PM dsneybuf
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Near the beginning of the film, a bunch of shepherds disrupt a public gathering by unleashing a flock of sheep on those gathered. This actually cracks up Jake Gittes.
** Jake baits Claude Mulvihill:
--->'''Gittes:''' Mulvihill! What are you doing here?
--->'''Mulvihill:''' They shut my water off. What's it to you?
--->'''Gittes:''' How'd you find out? You don't drink it. You don't take a bath in it. Maybe they sent you a letter. But then you'd have to be able to read.



* HeyItsThatGuy:
** [[Film/DiamondsAreForever Mr. Wint]] and [[Film/{{Marty}} Angie]] are Jake Gittes' assistants.
** [[Film/{{Rocky}} Paulie Pennino]] is one of Jake's clients.
** [[Film/{{Grease}} Mr. Lynch]] is chief engineer for the water department, and [[Series/MagnumPI Higgins]] is his deputy.



* TearJerker: "Forget it, Jake...It's Chinatown."
** [[spoiler:Not only that, Noah Cross gets away it with all. Mrs. Mulray is dead, her sister/daughter is taken away by Noah, Jake can't do anything to stop this and is told the famous line before solemnly walking away]]. If any of that didn't make you jerk a tear then the absolutely depressing music that plays when Jake's walking away certainly will.
** Simultaneously subverted the ending leaves the viewer feeling gutted and raw but not weepy, is a {{heroic BSOD}} for the viewer

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* TearJerker: "Forget it, Jake...It's Chinatown."
** [[spoiler:Not only that, Noah
[[spoiler:Noah Cross gets away it with all. Mrs. Mulray is dead, her sister/daughter is taken away by Noah, Jake can't do anything to stop this and is told the famous line before solemnly walking away]]. If any of that didn't make you jerk a tear then the absolutely depressing music that plays when Jake's walking away certainly will.
** Simultaneously subverted the ending leaves the viewer feeling gutted and raw but not weepy, is a {{heroic BSOD}} for the viewer
will.
-->"Forget it, Jake...It's Chinatown."
18th Jun '15 9:36:03 PM DrOO7
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Added DiffLines:

* MemeticMutation: "Forget it, _____. It's _______"
12th Jun '15 4:00:47 AM Mdumas43073
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Added DiffLines:

** Jake baits Claude Mulvihill:
--->'''Gittes:''' Mulvihill! What are you doing here?
--->'''Mulvihill:''' They shut my water off. What's it to you?
--->'''Gittes:''' How'd you find out? You don't drink it. You don't take a bath in it. Maybe they sent you a letter. But then you'd have to be able to read.
18th May '15 5:18:42 PM nombretomado
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** The film won an [[AcademyAwards Oscar]] for Best Screenplay, but probably would have won a few more, perhaps even Best Picture, if not for the misfortune of being released in the same year as ''Film/TheGodfather Part II''. A lesser example than most, because the winner is also a great film. ''Chinatown'' did beat ''The Godfather Part II'' for Best Drama at the Golden Globes.

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** The film won an [[AcademyAwards [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar]] for Best Screenplay, but probably would have won a few more, perhaps even Best Picture, if not for the misfortune of being released in the same year as ''Film/TheGodfather Part II''. A lesser example than most, because the winner is also a great film. ''Chinatown'' did beat ''The Godfather Part II'' for Best Drama at the Golden Globes.
11th Mar '15 9:09:54 AM KingClark
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* AwardSnub: The film won an [[AcademyAwards Oscar]] for Best Screenplay, but probably would have won a few more, perhaps even Best Picture, if not for the misfortune of being released in the same year as ''Film/TheGodfather Part II''. A lesser example than most, because the winner is also a great film. ''Chinatown'' did beat ''The Godfather Part II'' for Best Drama at the Golden Globes.

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* AwardSnub: AwardSnub:
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The film won an [[AcademyAwards Oscar]] for Best Screenplay, but probably would have won a few more, perhaps even Best Picture, if not for the misfortune of being released in the same year as ''Film/TheGodfather Part II''. A lesser example than most, because the winner is also a great film. ''Chinatown'' did beat ''The Godfather Part II'' for Best Drama at the Golden Globes.
11th Mar '15 9:09:39 AM KingClark
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* ItWasHisSled: It's such a famous film that "[[spoiler: [[WhamLine She's my sister AND my daughter]]]]" has lost it's power as TheReveal to many.

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* ItWasHisSled: It's such a famous film that "[[spoiler: [[WhamLine "[[spoiler:[[WhamLine She's my sister AND and my daughter]]]]" daughter!]]]]" has lost it's power as TheReveal to many.
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