History YMMV / Chinatown

13th Nov '17 3:00:08 PM Draghinazzo
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Richard Evans, the film's producer, wanted Roman Polanski as director because he thought Polanski, a european, would have a DarkerAndEdgier vision of the USA more suited to the script. For his part, Polanski also insisted that the script's conclusion be changed from a BittersweetEnding reminiscent of classic film noir stories to a stark and nihilistic DownerEnding, thinking that they needed to go all the way now that the Hays Code was gone and that it was necessary for Chinatown to be a truly special film and not just a cookier-cutter Hollywood movie where everything magically works out in the end.
6th Nov '17 5:51:21 AM ClintEastwood
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** Also Diane Ladd as "Mrs. Mulwray" (aka Ida Sessions), who hires Gittes in the first scene. She does turn up a couple times later, first as a voice on the phone and then [[spoiler:as a corpse]].

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** Also Diane Ladd Creator/DianeLadd as "Mrs. Mulwray" (aka Ida Sessions), who hires Gittes in the first scene. She does turn up a couple times later, first as a voice on the phone and then [[spoiler:as a corpse]].
10th Sep '17 5:26:55 PM DrOO7
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** The "sister, daughter" slapping scene.
20th Jul '17 4:31:43 PM JulianLapostat
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* NeverTrustATitle: Kind of. The titular Chinatown appears only at the very end of the movie and overall is used more as a metaphor for the corruption prevalent in LA. While there are a few Chinese characters working as house maids, the actual ethnicity doesn't matter. The movie could have just as well have been called "The Mexican District" or "Little Italy" and it wouldn't make a difference.
20th Jul '17 9:14:31 AM JulianLapostat
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* VindicatedByHistory: ''The Two Jakes'' is now recognized as a worthy sequel to ''Chinatown'', especially if one watches the films back-to-back.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''The Two Jakes'' is now recognized as a worthy sequel to ''Chinatown'', especially if one watches the films back-to-back.back-to-back, but it's not the classic [[FirstInstallmentWins the original is]].
5th Jul '17 10:32:44 AM LittleBuster
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** The film can become somewhat funny from the youth's point of view now, since the tragic and lost main character contrasts very much with the modern Nicholson's LargeHam roles.


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* NightmareFuel: The final scene becomes quite psychedelic and very embarrassing due to a somewhat narcotic atmosphere, alienated by Catherine and the famous Jake's HeroicBSOD. A good way to do DownerEnding.
2nd Jul '17 9:35:11 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* NeutralEvil: Noah Cross is a FauxAffablyEvil tycoon who has more money and power than he knows what to do with. Doesn't matter: he wants more.

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* NeutralEvil: Noah Cross [[spoiler:Noah Cross]] is a FauxAffablyEvil tycoon who has more money and power than he knows what to do with. Doesn't matter: he wants more.
20th May '17 2:03:16 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** [[spoiler:John Huston]] plays one of the most chilling villains of all time, and yet was not nominated for a supporting Oscar.
** And then there's Jack Nicholson losing Best Actor. The award (Largely seen as a sympathy Oscar) was given to Art Carney for the forgettable fluff piece ''Harry And Tonto''.

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** [[spoiler:John Huston]] [[spoiler:Creator/JohnHuston]] plays one of the most chilling villains of all time, and yet was not nominated for a supporting Oscar.
** And then there's Jack Nicholson Creator/JackNicholson losing Best Actor. The award (Largely seen as a sympathy Oscar) was given to Art Carney Creator/ArtCarney for the forgettable fluff piece ''Harry And Tonto''.



* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler:The sexual abuse Noah Cross commits within the movie]] could be seen in a whole new light after attention was brought to a real-life court case implicating Polanski himself in something similar. [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19918_6-terrible-decisions-that-gave-us-great-movie-moments_p2.html This]] article on Website/{{Cracked}} explicitly notes the parallels between how [[spoiler:Cross]] gets off [[KarmaHoudini scott-free]] for his crimes and how Polanski himself escaped jail time by fleeing the U.S.[[note]]This is technically not quite what happened, as Polanski's tvtropes page attests. Polanski confessed to his crime, and as per a plea bargain accepted to spend time in Chino Prison as part of a psychiatric evaluation. Polanski spent 42 Days in Chino, honouring his part of the plea bargain and was released early as per the recommendation of his probation officer. It was only when Judge Rittenbrand decided to back out of the plea bargain and planned to bring fresh charges that Polanski decided to flee, an action which the prosecutor of that case admitted was a justified response. In other words, unlike Cross whose crime is never unearthed and who does not admit to his crimes, Polanski both admitted to his crime and subjected himself to the justice system[[/note]]
* HilariousInHindsight: After this film was released, Creator/JoanCrawford declared that Faye Dunaway would be perfect to play her in a biography. [[Literature/MommieDearest Okay, stop laughing, it's true.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler:The sexual abuse Noah Cross commits within the movie]] could be seen in a whole new light after attention was brought to a real-life court case implicating Polanski Creator/RomanPolanski himself in something similar. [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19918_6-terrible-decisions-that-gave-us-great-movie-moments_p2.html This]] article on Website/{{Cracked}} explicitly notes the parallels between how [[spoiler:Cross]] gets off [[KarmaHoudini scott-free]] for his crimes and how Polanski himself escaped jail time by fleeing the U.S.[[note]]This is technically not quite what happened, as Polanski's tvtropes page attests. Polanski confessed to his crime, and as per a plea bargain accepted to spend time in Chino Prison as part of a psychiatric evaluation. Polanski spent 42 Days in Chino, honouring his part of the plea bargain and was released early as per the recommendation of his probation officer. It was only when Judge Rittenbrand decided to back out of the plea bargain and planned to bring fresh charges that Polanski decided to flee, an action which the prosecutor of that case admitted was a justified response. In other words, unlike Cross whose crime is never unearthed and who does not admit to his crimes, Polanski both admitted to his crime and subjected himself to the justice system[[/note]]
* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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After this film was released, Creator/JoanCrawford declared that Faye Dunaway Creator/FayeDunaway would be perfect to play her in a biography. [[Literature/MommieDearest Okay, stop laughing, it's true.]]


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* NeutralEvil: Noah Cross is a FauxAffablyEvil tycoon who has more money and power than he knows what to do with. Doesn't matter: he wants more.
5th Mar '17 4:48:25 AM TroperBeDoper
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** And then there's Jack Nicholson losing Best Actor. The award (Largely seen as a sympathy Oscar) was given to Art Carney for the forgettable fluff piece ''Harry And Tonto''.
8th Feb '17 10:15:56 AM Jaro7788
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* NeverTrustATitle: Kind of. The titular Chinatown appears only at the very end of the movie and overall is used more as a metaphor for the corruption prevalent in LA. While there are a few Chinese characters working as house maids, the actual ethnicity doesn't matter. The movie could have just as well have been called "The Mexican District" or "Little Italy" and it wouldn't make a difference.
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