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27th Nov '16 4:48:11 AM Chericola
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%%* AngstWhatAngst: Lyell recovers surprisingly quickly from being hypnotised, considering that he spent ten years trapped in Bloor's Academy without any of his memories,
26th Nov '16 3:52:39 AM Chericola
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* FridgeBrilliance: What happens to Amy and Lyell in the series shows the connection they have with each other. [[spoiler: When Lyell is hypnotised, Amy becomes timid and a shadow of herself, and even Charlie comments that it is as if the spell that took Lyell has captured her as well. Both Amy and Lyell are trapped, Amy in her life in Filbert Street and Lyell in Bloor's Academy. After Lyell is awakened Amy becomes much more lively and self-assured and even plays a part in defeating the Bloors and Harken.]]
** Also, there's the EarlyBirdCameo of the tree that is the Red King, in ''Time Twister''. [[spoiler: Charlie sees the tree and goes into the ruin to investigate later, spots some autumn leaves and drops of blood on the ground, and assumes that the blood was from one of the Beast's victims. Actually the blood was the Red King's tears.]]
** The parallels between different characters in the series:
*** Lyell and Emma: Both Lyell and Emma were put into a deep trance by Manfred Bloor (and on the exact same day) and forgot their memories and identities of themselves. Both were given false names (Emilia for Emma, 'Mr Pilgrim' for Lyell) and were made to disappear in some way (Emma was given a new identity and sent to live with a foster family, the Bloors contrived a car accident to fake Lyell's death). Also, both had a relative who wanted to find them (Miss Ingledew for Emma, Charlie for Lyell) and they were both woken up by an external source (Tolly Twelve Bells for Emma, the King's tears for Lyell).
*** Mr Pilgrim and Dorothy Bloor: Both live a half-life in Bloor's Academy.
*** Charlie and Joshua Tilpin: Both have the blood of two magicians running through their veins. However Charlie chooses to be a force for good, while Joshua sides with the bad children.
** Manfred's determination (and indeed, all of the Bloors' determination) to stop Charlie from awakening Lyell in ''Hidden King'' may seem strange at first, but it makes more sense by the time of the last three books. [[spoiler: Lyell is the keeper of the box that contains Maybelle's true will, something that the Bloors don't want to be found. If Lyell awakens the Bloors fear that he will remember where he hid the box and reveal who is the true heir to the Bloors' massive fortune.]]
* FridgeHorror: Mr Pilgrim's absence in the fourth book borders on this when you realise that [[spoiler: he was being held captive in Yewbeam Castle the entire time while Yorath 'borrowed' some of his personality to be able to pass as a teacher at Bloor's.]] It gets worse when you consider what Paton went through in the third book [[spoiler: when he went to Yewbeam Castle to stop Yolanda from coming to the city.]] Paton implies that Yorath 'borrowed' from him, and also implies that it was a tortuous experience. When you think of what Mr Pilgrim went through now, it's enough to make anyone scream.
* FridgeLogic: Why was Mr Pilgrim unable to resist Manfred's hypnotic power in ''Charlie Bone and the Blue Boa''? [[spoiler: Because he'd already been hypnotised and didn't have any will left.]]
3rd Nov '16 1:16:41 AM Chericola
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** There's a ''huge'' ShipTease between [[spoiler: Henry and Ankaret]] in ''Henry and the Guardians of the Lost''.
29th Oct '16 5:52:57 AM Chericola
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** Paton also goes through this in the third book when Ms Ingledew is dying from wearing a bewitched belt. The look on his face when he realises he can't save her is heart-wrenching. luckily Charlie and his wand are able to revive Ms Ingledew.

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** Paton also goes through this in the third book when Ms Ingledew is dying from wearing a bewitched belt. The look on his face when he realises he can't save her is heart-wrenching. luckily Luckily Charlie and his wand are able to revive Ms Ingledew.


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** The parallels between different characters in the series:
*** Lyell and Emma: Both Lyell and Emma were put into a deep trance by Manfred Bloor (and on the exact same day) and forgot their memories and identities of themselves. Both were given false names (Emilia for Emma, 'Mr Pilgrim' for Lyell) and were made to disappear in some way (Emma was given a new identity and sent to live with a foster family, the Bloors contrived a car accident to fake Lyell's death). Also, both had a relative who wanted to find them (Miss Ingledew for Emma, Charlie for Lyell) and they were both woken up by an external source (Tolly Twelve Bells for Emma, the King's tears for Lyell).
*** Mr Pilgrim and Dorothy Bloor: Both live a half-life in Bloor's Academy.
*** Charlie and Joshua Tilpin: Both have the blood of two magicians running through their veins. However Charlie chooses to be a force for good, while Joshua sides with the bad children.
** Manfred's determination (and indeed, all of the Bloors' determination) to stop Charlie from awakening Lyell in ''Hidden King'' may seem strange at first, but it makes more sense by the time of the last three books. [[spoiler: Lyell is the keeper of the box that contains Maybelle's true will, something that the Bloors don't want to be found. If Lyell awakens the Bloors fear that he will remember where he hid the box and reveal who is the true heir to the Bloors' massive fortune.]]
29th Oct '16 4:41:50 AM Chericola
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*** Paton also goes through this in the third book when Ms Ingledew is dying from wearing a bewitched belt. The look on his face when he realises he can't save her is heart-wrenching. luckily Charlie and his wand are able to revive Ms Ingledew.
There is also another one in the same book when Paton is ill from whatever Yorath did to him in Yewbeam Castle.
** Amy seems to go through this for a moment at the end of 'Hidden King', after Manfred smashes the bottle of King's tears onto the floor to stop Charlie from awakening his father.

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*** ** Paton also goes through this in the third book when Ms Ingledew is dying from wearing a bewitched belt. The look on his face when he realises he can't save her is heart-wrenching. luckily Charlie and his wand are able to revive Ms Ingledew.
*** There is also another one in the same book when Paton is ill from whatever Yorath did to him in Yewbeam Castle.
** Amy seems to go through this for a moment at the end of 'Hidden King', ''Hidden King'', after Manfred smashes the bottle of King's tears onto the floor to stop Charlie from awakening his father.
29th Oct '16 4:41:20 AM Chericola
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* DespairEventHorizon: There are a few of these.
** In the first book, Paton goes into this after his disastrous date with Miss Ingledew.
*** Paton also goes through this in the third book when Ms Ingledew is dying from wearing a bewitched belt. The look on his face when he realises he can't save her is heart-wrenching. luckily Charlie and his wand are able to revive Ms Ingledew.
There is also another one in the same book when Paton is ill from whatever Yorath did to him in Yewbeam Castle.
** Amy seems to go through this for a moment at the end of 'Hidden King', after Manfred smashes the bottle of King's tears onto the floor to stop Charlie from awakening his father.
29th Oct '16 4:22:26 AM Chericola
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids:

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: This series is darker than most people would expect for a kids' series. For example:



** Book 2 opens with a boy disappearing from his time and reappearing in another, while his little brother wakes up to find him gone. The rest of the book focuses on the disappeared boy who's being hunted by his now ancient cousin and the evil endowed children and the good endowed's efforts to keep him safe and reunite him with his brother. At one point Henry is captured and imprisoned in a pit, and he's ''not'' in a very good state when he's finally rescued. Also, Charlie's uncle is run over by a car. At one stage Paton actually offers Charlie wine to drink (cider in the American edition) one evening while they're talking in Number 9's kitchen.
** The victim of the Bloors' evil in book 3 is an invisible boy who's been locked in the attics for months (if not years), [[spoiler: and he's in a horrible state when he's finally made invisible again]].
** Book 4 has Billy being adopted by a cruel and sadistic couple, a new teacher who is extremely sadistic and dangerous, and the Bloors trying to create a sadistic and monstrous horse to scare Charlie and make him work for them. [[spoiler: Also Gabriel is hospitalised after trying on a bewitched cape.]]

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** Book 2 opens with a boy disappearing from his time and reappearing in another, while his little brother wakes up to find him gone. The rest of the book focuses on the disappeared boy who's being hunted by his now ancient cousin and the evil endowed children and the good endowed's efforts to keep him safe and reunite him with his brother. At one point Henry is captured and imprisoned in a pit, and he's ''not'' in a very good state when he's finally rescued. Also, Charlie's uncle is run over by a car. At one stage Paton actually offers Charlie wine to drink (cider in the American edition) one evening while they're talking in the kitchen in Number 9's kitchen.9.
** The victim of the Bloors' evil in book 3 is an invisible boy who's been locked in the attics for months (if not years), [[spoiler: and he's in a horrible state when he's finally made invisible again]]. \n There's also what Yolanda does to Mr Boldova...
** Book 4 has Billy being adopted by a cruel and sadistic couple, a new teacher who is extremely sadistic and dangerous, dangerous (and also a scary shape-shifter out to get revenge on Paton for killing his daughter), and the Bloors trying to create a sadistic and monstrous horse to scare Charlie and make him work for them. [[spoiler: Also Gabriel is hospitalised after trying on a bewitched cape.]]



%%** And Book 6 implies that Lyell still hasn't fully recovered from being hypnotised, and that

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%%** And ** Book 6 implies that Lyell still hasn't fully recovered from being hypnotised, and thatat one point Charlie fears that he'll never again be the brave man who stood up to the Bloors years ago.
29th Oct '16 4:16:23 AM Chericola
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** And Book 6 implies that Lyell still hasn't fully recovered from being hypnotised, and that

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** %%** And Book 6 implies that Lyell still hasn't fully recovered from being hypnotised, and that



** Lyell could also count, in a way, but more in backstory than in the actual series. His father died when he was a baby, and his mother was a complete JerkAss who probably neglected him emotionally once she realised he wasn't endowed in the way she wanted him to be. He spent a good part of his childhood surrounded by nasty, cold-hearted relatives such as Yolanda and the Aunts, and judging from how terrible a sitter Aunt Eustacia was, one can guess how he was treated. On top of all that, his mother held a grudge against him because of a will and a letter his father wrote to him. He falls in love and wishes to marry, but the Yewbeams don't approve and forbid it. He elopes anyway, earning the ire of the entire Yewbeam family. Then, after just four years married and with a two-year-old kid, he gets hypnotised ''for life'' when he tries to stop the abduction of Emma Tolly and spends the next ten years in a deep trance, unable to remember anything about his old life. In the fifth book, when he's close to awakening, he almost dies because Harken bewitches Amy into forgetting him, and all because the Bloors and Titania don't want him to wake up and remember where he put the box that contains Maybelle's will. Even after his awakening, Lyell is still not completely himself again, with parts of his memory still missing.
** Emma Tolly was abducted and hypnotised as a baby, and lived a dull and unhappy life for eight years with neglectful foster parents. When she finally wakes up from her trance, she cries and says that she never knew how unhappy she was, and that she lived with people who didn't love her. The happiness in her life only starts when she goes to live with Miss Ingledew in Ingledew's Bookshop.

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** Lyell could also count, in a way, but more in backstory than in the actual series. His father died when he was a baby, and his mother was a complete JerkAss {{Jerkass}} who probably neglected him emotionally once she realised he wasn't endowed in the way she wanted him to be. He spent a good part of his childhood surrounded by nasty, cold-hearted relatives such as Yolanda and the Aunts, and judging from how terrible a sitter Aunt Eustacia was, one can guess how he was treated. On top of all that, his mother held a grudge against him because of a will and a letter his father wrote to him. He falls in love and wishes to marry, but the Yewbeams don't approve and forbid it. He elopes anyway, earning the ire of the entire Yewbeam family. Then, after just four years married and with a two-year-old kid, he gets hypnotised ''for life'' when he tries to stop the abduction of Emma Tolly and spends the next ten years in a deep trance, unable to remember anything about his old life. In the fifth book, when he's close to awakening, he almost dies because Harken bewitches Amy into forgetting him, and all because the Bloors and Titania don't want him to wake up and remember where he put the box that contains Maybelle's will. Even after his awakening, Lyell is still not completely himself again, with parts of his memory still missing. \n [[spoiler: Though he does eventually regain all of his memories at the very end of the series.]]
** Emma Tolly was abducted and hypnotised as a baby, and lived a dull and unhappy life for eight years with neglectful foster parents. When she finally wakes up from her trance, she cries and says that she never knew how unhappy she was, and that she lived with people who didn't love her. The happiness in her life only starts when she goes to live with Miss Ingledew in Ingledew's Bookshop.Bookshop.
** Paton. His mother was murdered by Yolanda in Yewbeam Castle when Paton was only seven years old; his sisters turned to evil at the same time. His endowment made him a pariah in society and his own family, as he couldn't go outside in daylight. Also because of his endowment he's pretty much a loner, as not many people are brave enough to befriend him. His only friend Lyell disappeared under mysterious circumstances in 1994, and Paton blames himself for it because he didn't meet Lyell when Lyell asked him to. Paton meets a nice lady who he really loves, and who loves him back, but ''something'' always seems to crop up to stop them from progressing their relationship into something more.
28th Oct '16 5:39:28 AM Chericola
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** Also, there's the EarlyBirdCameo of the tree that is the Red King, in ''Time Twister''. [[spoiler: Charlie sees the tree and goes into the ruin to investigate later, spots some autumn leaves and drops of blood on the ground, and assumes that the blood was from one of the Beast's victims. Actually the blood was the Red King's tears.]]
26th Oct '16 3:05:39 AM Chericola
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* FridgeBrilliance: What happens to Amy and Lyell in the series shows the connection they have with each other. When Lyell is hypnotised, Amy becomes timid and a shadow of herself, and even Charlie comments that it is as if the spell that took Lyell has captured her as well. Both Amy and Lyell are trapped, Amy in her life in Filbert Street and Lyell in Bloor's Academy. After Lyell is awakened Amy becomes much more lively and self-assured and even [[spoiler: plays a part in defeating the Bloors and Harken.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Ezekiel and Manfred. Ezekiel made his cousin Henry disappear through time out of envy of his cleverness, while Manfred is a sadistic hypnotist (and later pyromancer) who enjoys bullying other kids and seeing them suffer.
* FridgeBrilliance: What happens to Amy and Lyell in the series shows the connection they have with each other. [[spoiler: When Lyell is hypnotised, Amy becomes timid and a shadow of herself, and even Charlie comments that it is as if the spell that took Lyell has captured her as well. Both Amy and Lyell are trapped, Amy in her life in Filbert Street and Lyell in Bloor's Academy. After Lyell is awakened Amy becomes much more lively and self-assured and even [[spoiler: plays a part in defeating the Bloors and Harken.]]



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids:
** Book 1 involves Charlie trying to find and rescue a girl who was abducted as a baby and put into a trance-like state. Said girl's life with her foster family is very dull and unhappy, and she cries over it once she comes out of her trance. Also it's strongly implied that the Bloors murdered her father, Mostyn Tolly, not long before the book begins. There is a romantic subplot in the book which deals with Paton asking Julia Ingledew out on a date (which goes disastrously), and Charlie has to try and convince Miss Ingledew to give Paton a second chance. In addition, the beginning of the book implies that Charlie's father may have been murdered by the Bloors years ago (though later reveals show that he's still alive and in a trance-like state).
** Book 2 opens with a boy disappearing from his time and reappearing in another, while his little brother wakes up to find him gone. The rest of the book focuses on the disappeared boy who's being hunted by his now ancient cousin and the evil endowed children and the good endowed's efforts to keep him safe and reunite him with his brother. At one point Henry is captured and imprisoned in a pit, and he's ''not'' in a very good state when he's finally rescued. Also, Charlie's uncle is run over by a car. At one stage Paton actually offers Charlie wine to drink (cider in the American edition) one evening while they're talking in Number 9's kitchen.
** The victim of the Bloors' evil in book 3 is an invisible boy who's been locked in the attics for months (if not years), [[spoiler: and he's in a horrible state when he's finally made invisible again]].
** Book 4 has Billy being adopted by a cruel and sadistic couple, a new teacher who is extremely sadistic and dangerous, and the Bloors trying to create a sadistic and monstrous horse to scare Charlie and make him work for them. [[spoiler: Also Gabriel is hospitalised after trying on a bewitched cape.]]
** Book 5 has the villain trying to ensure that [[spoiler: Lyell never wakes up from his trance]], by bewitching said man's wife into forgetting him and falling in love with the villain. Amy forgetting Lyell causes Lyell to weaken and start dying, which is the villain's plan all along. The villain also plans to take Amy back into the past, essentially making Charlie an orphan.
** And Book 6 implies that Lyell still hasn't fully recovered from being hypnotised, and that
** And finally, Book 8 involves the villains trying to murder Amy and Lyell who are believed to have gone whale-watching.



** Lyell could also count, in a way, but more in backstory than in the actual series. His father died when he was a baby, and his mother was a complete JerkAss who probably neglected him emotionally once she realised he wasn't endowed in the way she wanted him to be. He spent a good part of his childhood surrounded by nasty, cold-hearted relatives such as Yolanda and the Aunts, and judging from how terrible a sitter Aunt Eustacia was, one can guess how he was treated. On top of all that, his mother held a grudge against him because of a will and a letter his father wrote to him. He falls in love and wishes to marry, but the Yewbeams don't approve and forbid it. He elopes anyway, earning the ire of the entire Yewbeam family. Then, after just four years married and with a two-year-old kid, he gets hypnotised ''for life'' when he tries to stop the abduction of Emma Tolly and spends the next ten years in a deep trance, unable to remember anything about his old life. In the fifth book, when he's close to awakening, he almost dies because Harken bewitches Amy into forgetting him, and all because the Bloors and Titania don't want him to wake up and remember where he put the box that contains Maybelle's will. Even after his awakening, Lyell is still not completely himself again, with parts of his memory still missing.

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** Lyell could also count, in a way, but more in backstory than in the actual series. His father died when he was a baby, and his mother was a complete JerkAss who probably neglected him emotionally once she realised he wasn't endowed in the way she wanted him to be. He spent a good part of his childhood surrounded by nasty, cold-hearted relatives such as Yolanda and the Aunts, and judging from how terrible a sitter Aunt Eustacia was, one can guess how he was treated. On top of all that, his mother held a grudge against him because of a will and a letter his father wrote to him. He falls in love and wishes to marry, but the Yewbeams don't approve and forbid it. He elopes anyway, earning the ire of the entire Yewbeam family. Then, after just four years married and with a two-year-old kid, he gets hypnotised ''for life'' when he tries to stop the abduction of Emma Tolly and spends the next ten years in a deep trance, unable to remember anything about his old life. In the fifth book, when he's close to awakening, he almost dies because Harken bewitches Amy into forgetting him, and all because the Bloors and Titania don't want him to wake up and remember where he put the box that contains Maybelle's will. Even after his awakening, Lyell is still not completely himself again, with parts of his memory still missing.
** Emma Tolly was abducted and hypnotised as a baby, and lived a dull and unhappy life for eight years with neglectful foster parents. When she finally wakes up from her trance, she cries and says that she never knew how unhappy she was, and that she lived with people who didn't love her. The happiness in her life only starts when she goes to live with Miss Ingledew in Ingledew's Bookshop.
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