History YMMV / BoardwalkEmpire

19th Nov '17 8:35:46 PM WildeOscar
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** Even the fans who liked Billie didn't think much of Sally Wheat.
22nd Sep '17 5:53:49 AM GaryKing95
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* Oddball of the Series: Season 5. It's shortened, doesn't have a central conflict, has Nucky's backstory interspersed, and is essentially just an epilogue for all the main characters.

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* Oddball of the Series: OddballInTheSeries: Season 5. It's shortened, doesn't have a central conflict, has Nucky's backstory interspersed, and is essentially just an epilogue for all the main characters.
28th Aug '17 1:08:45 PM teachzebra
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* Oddball of the Series: Season 5. It's shortened, doesn't have a central conflict, has Nucky's backstory interspersed, and is essentially just an epilogue for all the main characters.
28th Aug '17 11:45:12 AM teachzebra
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** Though she's a minor character Rose Van Alden is the most sympathetic person in the show. She desperately wants to have a child, but Nelson will not compromise his principles to help her. Then he does compromise his principles to get drunk and knock up Lucy. Upon discovering this she's incredibly compassionate to an exhausted Lucy even though society at the time would've looked at her (Lucy) as being the villain in that situation. When she bites and and eventually divorces Nelson it's pretty satisfying.
7th Aug '17 11:50:32 PM MrTerrorist
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** At the time when Boardwalk Empire was made, the show portrayed Nan Britton being President Warren Harding's mistress and the father of her daughter as real for drama since many historians dismiss Britton claims as untrue and impossible that Warren was the father of Britton's daughter. Then in 2015, the show turn out to be correct when a DNA test revealed that Harding and Britton's affair was indeed reality and he did indeed father her child.
1st Jun '17 11:57:01 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** One with a generous dose of FridgeHorror: could Margaret's son Teddy be a budding [[TheSociopath sociopath]]? Mention is made of his bed-wetting and pyromania, which are both considered key indicators of the condition in children. Furthermore, considering that he's probably mature enough to understand human mortality and the fear that comes with it, it could be seen as quite a KickTheDog moment when he taunts his mother by [[spoiler:pretending that his legs have stopped moving, suggesting that he's caught polio from his sister.]]

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** One with a generous dose of FridgeHorror: could Margaret's son Teddy be a budding [[TheSociopath sociopath]]? Mention is made of his bed-wetting and pyromania, [[{{pyromaniac}} pyromania]], which are both considered key indicators of the condition in children. Furthermore, considering that he's probably mature enough to understand human mortality and the fear that comes with it, it could be seen as quite a KickTheDog moment when he taunts his mother by [[spoiler:pretending that his legs have stopped moving, suggesting that he's caught polio from his sister.]]
13th Dec '16 4:31:17 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* FriendlyFandoms: With Series/PeakyBlinders, due to similar themes of the rise of organized crime in a country still recovering from World War 1.

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* FriendlyFandoms: With Series/PeakyBlinders, due to similar themes of the rise of organized crime in a country still recovering from [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI World War 1.1]].
5th Nov '16 8:23:01 AM dmcreif
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** Two seasons after Luann Pratt confessed to be behind the Commodore's poisoning, there are still people who think that the real poisoner was Gillian and that Luann was bought into covering for her.

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** Two seasons after Luann Pratt confessed to be behind the Commodore's poisoning, there are still a number of people who think that the real poisoner was Gillian and that Luann was bought into covering for her.



** Jimmy. He's either one of the most interesting and compelling characters on the show or he's poorly written and dull. Those who find him interesting are divided in turn over if he is an AntiHero or an outright Villain. And then there are the fangirls who [[DracoInLeatherPants drool over him no matter what he does]].

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** Jimmy. He's Jimmy Darmody is either one of the most interesting and compelling characters on the show or he's poorly written and dull. Those who find him interesting are divided in turn over if he is an AntiHero or an outright Villain. And then there are the fangirls who [[DracoInLeatherPants drool over him no matter what he does]].



* CompleteMonster: While other gangsters have shown shades of ruthlessness and callousness, [[AxCrazy Giuseppe Colombano "Gyp" Rosetti]] from season 3 is an absolute lunatic of a mob boss who eclipses Nucky Thompson and any other gangster on the show for sheer, senseless and brutal violence. [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Introduced beating a man to death]] after the man fixed his car but [[HairTriggerTemper made an offhand comment Rosetti interpreted as condescending]], Rosetti soon all but declares war on Nucky and sadistically burns the Sheriff of Tabor Heights to death later after dousing him in gasoline. When Bugsy Siegel makes an attempt on him, Rosetti uses the waitress he was sleeping with as a HumanShield and soon beats a priest to rob his church. In a botched counter-assassination attempt on Nucky, Rosetti [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill blows up a restaurant]] on the Atlantic City boardwalk which Nucky frequents. Dozens of people are killed along with Nucky's mistress Billie Kent, which Rosetti taunts him with over the phone. When one of his men makes a comment indicating he [[DisproportionateRetribution knows more about nautical terms than Rosetti, Rosetti buries him up to his neck in the sand to either die of exposure or drown from the tide]], but shows “mercy” when Tonino begs him to, as the buried man is Tonino's cousin, by [[BaitTheDog taking the shovel, walking to the man and then smashing his skull in with it]].

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* CompleteMonster: While other gangsters have shown shades of ruthlessness and callousness, [[AxCrazy Giuseppe Colombano "Gyp" Rosetti]] from season 3 is an absolute lunatic of a mob boss who eclipses Nucky Thompson and any other gangster on the show for sheer, senseless and brutal violence. [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Introduced beating a man mechanic to death]] after the man mechanic fixed his car but [[HairTriggerTemper made an offhand comment Rosetti interpreted as condescending]], Rosetti soon all but declares war on Nucky and sadistically burns the Sheriff of Tabor Heights to death later after dousing him in gasoline. When Bugsy Siegel makes an attempt on him, Rosetti uses the waitress he was sleeping with as a HumanShield and soon beats a priest to rob his church. In a botched counter-assassination attempt on Nucky, Rosetti [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill blows up a restaurant]] on the Atlantic City boardwalk which Nucky frequents. Dozens of people are killed along with Nucky's mistress Billie Kent, which Rosetti taunts him with over the phone. When one of his men makes a comment indicating he [[DisproportionateRetribution knows more about nautical terms than Rosetti, Rosetti buries him up to his neck in the sand to either die of exposure or drown from the tide]], but shows “mercy” when Tonino begs him to, as the buried man is Tonino's cousin, by [[BaitTheDog taking the shovel, walking to the man and then smashing his skull in with it]].



** Joe "The Boss" Masseria has a lot of fans too, in part because of the research that went into Ivo Nandi's depiction (i.e, speaking the genuine Sicilian dialect), and in part because in comparison to [[SurroundedByIdiots colleagues]] like [[AxCrazy Gyp Rosetti]], he has his head on straight, which actually makes him ''scarier''.

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** Joe "The Boss" Masseria has a lot of fans too, in part because of the research that went into Ivo Nandi's depiction (i.e, speaking the genuine Sicilian dialect), and in part because in comparison to [[SurroundedByIdiots colleagues]] like [[AxCrazy Gyp Rosetti]], he has his head on straight, which actually makes him ''scarier''.a more dangerous foe.



** Van Alden refers to Atlantic City as the remnants of a great Metropolis becomes funny considering his next [[Film/ManOfSteel big role]].

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** Van Alden refers to Atlantic City as the remnants of a great Metropolis becomes funny considering his Michael Shannon's next [[Film/ManOfSteel big role]].



** And just a few months later, Charlie Cox, Peter [=McRobbie=], ''and'' Domenick Lombardozzi were reunited in ''Series/Daredevil2015''. Cox is even playing someone who fights a heavyset mob boss. Unlike Joe Masseria, he actually succeeds when it comes to Wilson Fisk. And then Erik [=LaRay=] Harvey joined the same MCU universe a year later in ''Series/LukeCage2016''.

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** And just a few months later, Charlie Cox, Peter [=McRobbie=], ''and'' Domenick Lombardozzi were reunited in ''Series/Daredevil2015''. Cox is even playing someone who fights a heavyset mob boss. Unlike Joe Masseria, he actually succeeds when it comes to Wilson Fisk. And then Erik [=LaRay=] Harvey joined the same MCU universe a year later in ''Series/LukeCage2016''.



*** "some things, Charlie, you just have to swallow."

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*** "some "Some things, Charlie, you just have to swallow."



** Agent Knox towards the end of Season 4. He may be brutal and uncompromising but considering [[GreyAndGrayMorality who he's after.]] He doesn't reach full Woobie status until [[spoiler:the end of Season 4. Try not to feel a tad bit sorry for him when he's undermined at every turn by Hoover and his career starts going down the toilet]] despite genuinely wanting to erase organized crime.

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** Agent Warren Knox towards the end of Season 4. He may be brutal and uncompromising but considering [[GreyAndGrayMorality who he's after.]] He doesn't reach full Woobie status until [[spoiler:the end of Season 4. Try not to feel a tad bit sorry for him when he's undermined at every turn by Hoover and his career starts going down the toilet]] despite genuinely wanting to erase organized crime.



** Holy mother of ''God'', the scene in "Peg of Old" when Slater garrotes a guy in a men's toilet, slicing his fingers off as the guy tries to get free. We actually SEE the severed fingers and gushing blood. And oh, how dirty that toilet looks.

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** Holy mother of ''God'', the scene in "Peg of Old" when Slater Owen garrotes a guy in a men's toilet, slicing his fingers off as the guy tries to get free. We actually SEE the severed fingers and gushing blood. And oh, how dirty that toilet looks.



** Richard blowing [[spoiler: Neary's]] brains out in "To the Lost", complete with a giant close-up of the back of his head.

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** Richard blowing [[spoiler: Neary's]] brains out shoots James Neary through the mouth in "To the Lost", complete with Lost" and stages his death as a giant close-up suicide. When the body is found, there's a nice shot from behind of the exit wound in the back of his Neary's head.



** A brief meeting between the two in season 2 shows that Richard and Owen see eachother as [[WorthyOpponent Worthy Opponents]] and offers a tantalizing hint at the two of them having a rivalry and a potential violent confrontation in the future. Sadly, the two never share any significant screen time together ever again.

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** A brief meeting between the two in season 2 shows that Richard and Owen see eachother each other as [[WorthyOpponent Worthy Opponents]] and offers a tantalizing hint at the two of them having a rivalry and a potential violent confrontation in the future. Sadly, the two never share any significant screen time together ever again.
3rd Nov '16 11:46:43 AM dmcreif
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* CompleteMonster: While other gangsters have shown shades of ruthlessness and callousness, [[AxCrazy Giuseppe Colombano "Gyp" Rosetti]] from season 3 is an absolute lunatic of a mob boss who eclipses Nucky Thompson and any other gangster on the show for sheer, senseless and brutal violence. [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Introduced beating a man to death]] after the man fixed his car but [[HairTriggerTemper made an offhand comment Rosetti interpreted as condescending]], Rosetti soon all but declares war on Nucky and sadistically burns a man to death later after dousing him in gasoline. In an attempt on his life, Rosetti uses the waitress he was sleeping with as a HumanShield and soon beats a priest to rob his church. In a botched counter-assassination attempt on Nucky, Rosetti [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill bombs an entire restaurant]] on the Atlantic City boardwalk which Nucky frequents. Dozens of people are killed along with Nucky's mistress, which Rosetti taunts him with over the phone. When one of his men makes a comment indicating he [[DisproportionateRetribution knows more about nautical terms than Rosetti, Rosetti buries him up to his neck in the sand for the tide]], but shows “mercy” when his bodyguard begs him to, as the buried man is said bodyguard's own cousin, by [[BaitTheDog taking the shovel, walking to the man and then smashing his skull in with it]].

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* CompleteMonster: While other gangsters have shown shades of ruthlessness and callousness, [[AxCrazy Giuseppe Colombano "Gyp" Rosetti]] from season 3 is an absolute lunatic of a mob boss who eclipses Nucky Thompson and any other gangster on the show for sheer, senseless and brutal violence. [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Introduced beating a man to death]] after the man fixed his car but [[HairTriggerTemper made an offhand comment Rosetti interpreted as condescending]], Rosetti soon all but declares war on Nucky and sadistically burns a man the Sheriff of Tabor Heights to death later after dousing him in gasoline. In When Bugsy Siegel makes an attempt on his life, him, Rosetti uses the waitress he was sleeping with as a HumanShield and soon beats a priest to rob his church. In a botched counter-assassination attempt on Nucky, Rosetti [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill bombs an entire blows up a restaurant]] on the Atlantic City boardwalk which Nucky frequents. Dozens of people are killed along with Nucky's mistress, mistress Billie Kent, which Rosetti taunts him with over the phone. When one of his men makes a comment indicating he [[DisproportionateRetribution knows more about nautical terms than Rosetti, Rosetti buries him up to his neck in the sand for to either die of exposure or drown from the tide]], but shows “mercy” when his bodyguard Tonino begs him to, as the buried man is said bodyguard's own Tonino's cousin, by [[BaitTheDog taking the shovel, walking to the man and then smashing his skull in with it]].



** Rosetti going berserk is not played for comedic sociopathy, but sometimes his reactions and his mental process are so absurd that it can't be [[{{NarmCharm}} taken seriously]] at 100% either, and then again the guy has his LaughablyEvil moments.

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** **Gyp Rosetti going berserk is not played for comedic sociopathy, but sometimes his reactions and his mental process are so absurd that it can't be [[{{NarmCharm}} taken seriously]] at 100% either, and then again the guy has his LaughablyEvil moments.



** After the Season 4 finale, it became obvious that none of the main characters are going to have a happy ending because everyone keeps dying or getting themselves into situations more horrible than the last. On top of that, [[spoiler:three of the four characters listed above have died]], and Al Capone TookALevelInJerkass after becoming a cocaine addict.

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** After the Season 4 finale, it became obvious that none of the main characters are going to have a happy ending because everyone keeps dying or getting themselves into situations more horrible than the last. On top of that, [[spoiler:three of the four characters listed above have died]], and Al Capone TookALevelInJerkass [[TookALevelInJerkass fell off the wagon]] after becoming a cocaine addict.



** Both Babette and Odette (the prostitute Richard loses his virginity to) have a surprising number of followers, despite being extremely minor, OutOfFocus characters.
** Joe "The Boss" Masseria has a lot of fans too, in part because of the research that went into the character(i.e, speaking the genuine Sicilian dialect), and in part because in comparison to [[SurroundedByIdiots colleagues]] like [[AxCrazy Gyp Rosetti]], he has his head on straight, which actually makes him ''scarier''.
** Eddie Kessler, Nucky's [[TheFunnyGuy bumbling manservant]]. Of the main characters, he is the most OutOfFocus (except maybe Doyle), but ''unlike'' Doyle, most viewers love him. [[spoiler: And shed ManlyTears after watching "Erlkönig".]]

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** Both Babette and Odette (the prostitute Richard Harrow loses his virginity to) have a surprising number of followers, despite being extremely minor, OutOfFocus characters.
** Joe "The Boss" Masseria has a lot of fans too, in part because of the research that went into the character(i.Ivo Nandi's depiction (i.e, speaking the genuine Sicilian dialect), and in part because in comparison to [[SurroundedByIdiots colleagues]] like [[AxCrazy Gyp Rosetti]], he has his head on straight, which actually makes him ''scarier''.
** Eddie Kessler, Nucky's [[TheFunnyGuy bumbling manservant]]. Of the main characters, he is the most OutOfFocus (except maybe Doyle), but ''unlike'' Doyle, most viewers love him. [[spoiler: And shed ManlyTears after watching his death in "Erlkönig".]]



** Eddie Cantor's comment to Billy Kent, when he asks what she knows about Lucy. "The next one won't know a goddamn thing about you either." [[spoiler:Indeed, even Nucky himself, traumatized as he was by Billy's death, got over her pretty quickly when he moved on to Sally.]]

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** Eddie Cantor's comment to Billy Billie Kent, when he asks what she knows about Lucy. "The next one won't know a goddamn thing about you either." [[spoiler:Indeed, even Nucky himself, traumatized as he was by Billy's Billie's death, got over her pretty quickly when he moved on to Sally.]]



*** And just a few months later, Charlie Cox, Peter [=McRobbie=], ''and'' Domenick Lombardozzi [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} joined him in the MCU]]. Cox is even playing someone who fights a heavyset mob boss!
** After playing the horribly disfigured Richard Harrow, in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudiceAndZombies'' Jack Huston plays [[spoiler:one of the few zombies whose face isn't damaged at all.]]

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*** ** And just a few months later, Charlie Cox, Peter [=McRobbie=], ''and'' Domenick Lombardozzi [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} joined him were reunited in the MCU]]. ''Series/Daredevil2015''. Cox is even playing someone who fights a heavyset mob boss!
boss. Unlike Joe Masseria, he actually succeeds when it comes to Wilson Fisk. And then Erik [=LaRay=] Harvey joined the same MCU universe a year later in ''Series/LukeCage2016''.
** After playing the horribly disfigured Richard Harrow, in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudiceAndZombies'' Jack Huston plays played [[spoiler:one of the few zombies whose face isn't damaged at all.]]



** While Van Alden [[KickTheDog kicks a lot of dogs]], the usually pointed MoralEventHorizon is [[spoiler: drowning Sebso in front of a black congregation and then leaving while showing his gun and badge so they'll be too afraid to say anything]]. Oddly, he only begins to PetTheDog well after that.

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** While Van Alden [[KickTheDog kicks a lot of dogs]], the usually pointed MoralEventHorizon is [[spoiler: drowning Sebso [[DeadlyEuphemism "baptizing" Sebso]] in front of a black congregation and then leaving while showing his gun and badge so they'll be too afraid to say anything]]. Oddly, he only begins to PetTheDog well after that.



*** Gillian racks them up in "Under God's Power She Flourishes". [[spoiler: She doesn't give a flying fuck that Angela died, plans to tell Tommy that she abandoned him to party with her friends in Paris, tells Jimmy to kill the Commodore and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking calls Richard a simpleton]] (in the guise of throwing a police officer off the trail of Angela's murder). Just to add fuel to the fire, the flashbacks reveal that at Princeton, she had drunken sex with Jimmy, freaking him into joining the army.]]

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*** Gillian racks them up in "Under God's Power She Flourishes". [[spoiler: She doesn't give a flying fuck shit that Angela died, plans to tell Tommy that she abandoned him to party with her friends in Paris, tells Jimmy to kill the Commodore and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking calls Richard a simpleton]] (in the guise of throwing a police officer off the trail of Angela's murder). Just to add fuel to the fire, the flashbacks reveal that at Princeton, she had drunken sex with Jimmy, freaking him into joining the army.]]



** Erik La-Ray Harvey was so awesome as one-episode character Dunn Purnsley in "Ourselves Alone" that the production crew decided to call him back and make Purnsley Chalky's new right-hand man.
** Secretary of the Treasury Mellon.

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** Erik La-Ray [=LaRay=] Harvey was so awesome as one-episode character Dunn Purnsley in "Ourselves Alone" that the production crew decided to call him back and make Purnsley Chalky's new right-hand man.
** Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon.
29th Feb '16 10:02:53 AM Silverblade2
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* [[ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow Complaining About People Not Liking The Character]]: Try to tell people you dislike him... Go ahead. [[spoiler: Richard Harrow]].
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