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* [[spoiler: PanderingToTheBase:]] [[spoiler: With the much hyped post [[Comicbook/{{AvengersVsX-Men}} [=AvX=] ]] merger featuring more {{X-Men}} characters joining various 'ComicBook/TheAvengers' team, the reason given for the upcoming dissolution of the Black Panther - Storm marriage (not being able to feature the two characters in the same book) comes off as FalseDichotomy. Fans have emerged on both sides of the issue some vocal ones that never warmed to the relationship favoring the break.]]
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* [[spoiler: PanderingToTheBase:]] [[spoiler: With the much hyped post [[Comicbook/{{AvengersVsX-Men}} [=AvX=] ]] merger featuring more {{X-Men}} characters joining various 'ComicBook/TheAvengers' team, the reason given for the upcoming dissolution of the Black Panther - Storm marriage (not being able to feature the two characters in the same book) comes off as FalseDichotomy. Fans have emerged on both sides of the issue some vocal ones that never warmed to the relationship favoring the break.break and others that feel the relationship never got the chance to be handled properly.]]
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*** Well, seeing as [[GreenGoblin Norman Osborn]] ''did'' weaponize a cure for cancer and tried to use it on {{Deadpool}}, I think their worries are a little justified.
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* [[spoiler: PanderingToTheBase:]] [[spoiler: With the much hyped post [[Comicbook/{{AvengersVsX-Men}} [=AvX=] ]] merger featuring more {{X-Men}} characters joining various 'ComicBook/TheAvengers' team, the reason given for the upcoming dissolution of the Black Panther - Storm marriage (not being able to feature the two characters in the same book) comes off as FalseDichotomy. Fans have emerged on both sides of the issue some vocal ones that never warmed to the relationship favoring the break and others finding it worst CharacterDerailment for both characters then the retcons that forced the relationship itself.break.]]
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* JerkAss: Hey, T'Challa. Just wondering but would you like to share your cure for cancer with everyone else at all? [[SarcasmMode Would help ever so slightly.]]
** Handwaved (poorly) as Wakanda being worried that the rest of the world would find a way to weaponize a cure for cancer. It is actually possible since you do have the cure, you can possibly alter original genetic structure to make it more aggressive.
** Handwaved (poorly) as Wakanda being worried that the rest of the world would find a way to weaponize a cure for cancer. It is actually possible since you do have the cure, you can possibly alter original genetic structure to make it more aggressive.
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* [[spoiler: PanderingToTheBase:]] [[spoiler: With the much hyped post [[Comicbook/{{AvengersVsX-Men}} [=AvX=] ]] merger featuring more {{X-Men}} characters joining various 'ComicBook/TheAvengers' team, the reason given for the upcoming dissolution of the Black Panther - Storm marriage (not being able to feature the two characters in the same book) comes off as FalseDichotomy. Fans have emerged on both sides of the issue some favoring the break and others finding it worst CharacterDerailment for both characters.]]
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* [[spoiler: PanderingToTheBase:]] [[spoiler: With the much hyped post [[Comicbook/{{AvengersVsX-Men}} [=AvX=] ]] merger featuring more {{X-Men}} characters joining various 'ComicBook/TheAvengers' team, the reason given for the upcoming dissolution of the Black Panther - Storm marriage (not being able to feature the two characters in the same book) comes off as FalseDichotomy. Fans have emerged on both sides of the issue some vocal ones that never warmed to the relationship favoring the break and others finding it worst CharacterDerailment for both characters.characters then the retcons that forced the relationship itself.]]
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* [[spoiler: PanderingToTheBase:]] [[spoiler: With the much hyped post [[Comicbook/{{AvengersVsX-Men}} [=AvX=] ]] merger featuring more {{X-Men}} characters joining various 'ComicBook/TheAvengers' team, the reason given for the upcoming dissolution of the Black Panther - Storm marriage (not being able to feature the two characters in the same book) comes off as FalseDichotomy. Fans have emerged on both sides of the issue some favoring the break and others finding it worst CharacterDerailment for both characters.]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: Storm going from a strong black female character whose survived as a popular character since her introduction to some random chick that dropped her panties for T'Challa the first time they met.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Storm going from a strong black female character whose survived as a popular character since her introduction to some random chick that dropped her panties for T'Challa the first time they met in retcon mini expanding on how they first met.
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** It seems that maybe [[spoiler: the marriage has ended.]]
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The God-Mode Sue and Racism where both Hudlin-era (a case could be made that the God-Mode Sue stuff dates back to Priest, but the racism certainly did not) while the examples of bad-assery cited are from the Priest run.
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** Of course most of the stuff mentioned there previous to getting yelled at by Luke Cage was during his GodModeSue era. One could as easily argue that prior to all that, he had already decayed from an authentic BadAss with a nuanced backstory and a diverse social circle into being a racist BoringInvincibleHero.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Former [[VitriolicBestBuds Power Man and Iron Fist]] scribe Christopher Priest used a story in his Panther run to give Iron Fist his powers back.
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** Of course most of the stuff mentioned there previous to getting yelled at by Luke Cage was during his GodModeSue era. One could as easily argue that prior to all that, he had already decayed from an authentic BadAss with a nuanced backstory and a diverse social circle into being a racist BoringInvincibleHero.
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* BadassDecay: Panther has gone from outwitting [[IronMan Tony Stark]], [[TheDevil Mephisto]], and pulling off repeated [[XanatosRoulette impossibly complex and brilliant schemes]], and going to toe-to-toe with heavy hitters like Namor and [[IncredibleHulk the Hulk]] to getting yelled at by Luke Cage for not being as good as Daredevil.
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* BadassDecay: Panther has gone from outwitting [[IronMan Tony Stark]], [[TheDevil Mephisto]], and pulling off repeated [[XanatosRoulette [[GambitRoulette impossibly complex and brilliant schemes]], and going to toe-to-toe with heavy hitters like Namor and [[IncredibleHulk the Hulk]] to getting yelled at by Luke Cage for not being as good as Daredevil.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Him and Storm, in one of the most brutal stranglings in mainstream comics. Made worse and/or hilarious by the fact that Storm was a (heavily implied) lesbian under Claremont, only none of her other writers twigged to it. Also a case of CompletelyMissingThePoint, as Hudlin basically built the marriage out of a two-issue cameo from Priest's run where their "romance" was treated as an unrealistic-but-cathartic childhood fantasy that would never actually work in any real way. Writers of both characters are now largely ignoring the marriage for exactly that reason.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Him and Storm, in one of the most brutal stranglings in mainstream comics. Made worse and/or hilarious by the fact that Storm was a (heavily implied) lesbian under Claremont, only none of her other writers twigged to it. Also a case of CompletelyMissingThePoint, as Hudlin basically built the marriage out of a two-issue cameo from Priest's run where their "romance" was treated as an unrealistic-but-cathartic childhood fantasy that would never actually work in any real way. Writers of both characters are now largely ignoring the marriage for exactly that reason.
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** His ''IronManArmoredAdventures'' universe self is very much this from backstory to personality. He ends up being more of a LawfulGood, angry and alone Anti-Hero than anything else.
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** His ''IronManArmoredAdventures'' universe self is very much this from backstory to personality. He ends up being more of a LawfulGood, angry and alone Anti-Hero than anything else.
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* FanonDisontinuity: So much of Hudlin's and the current series plot points are Wall Bangers for some that were big fans of the Priest run, although this isn't always the case. However, pretty much everyone agrees that Doomwar never happened... except, unfortunately, for Marvel themselves.
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* FanonDisontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity: So much of Hudlin's and the current series plot points are Wall Bangers for some that were big fans of the Priest run, although this isn't always the case. However, pretty much everyone agrees that Doomwar never happened... except, unfortunately, for Marvel themselves.
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* FanonDisontinuity: So much of Hudlin's and the current series plot points are Wall Bangers for some that were big fans of the Priest run, although this isn't always the case. However, pretty much everyone agrees that Doomwar never happened... except, unfortunately, for Marvel themselves.
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* DesignatedHero: Depending on interpretation.
** Played when Killmonger technically became the Black Panther, and insisted on joining the Avengers, despite being a villain and the guy who took the previous Panther out of action.
** Played when Killmonger technically became the Black Panther, and insisted on joining the Avengers, despite being a villain and the guy who took the previous Panther out of action.
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* CharacterDerailment: Regardless of how you feel about the respective runs, Priest's T'Challa acts, speaks, and behaves as a much more intelligent person than Liss' T'Challa. Hudlin's take was somewhere in between, and all three takes have their fans, but the difference in intellect from one incarnation to the next is undeniable.
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* CharacterDerailment: Regardless of how you feel about the respective runs, Priest's T'Challa acts, speaks, and behaves as a much more intelligent person than Liss' T'Challa. Hudlin's take was somewhere in between, and all three takes have their fans, but the difference in intellect from one incarnation to the next is undeniable.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Him and Storm, in one of the most brutal stranglings in mainstream comics. Made worse and/or hilarious by the fact that Storm was a (heavily implied) lesbian under Claremont, only none of her other writers twigged to it. Also a case of [[CompletelyMissingThePoint Completely Missing the Point]], CompletelyMissingThePoint, as Hudlin basically built the marriage out of a two-issue cameo from Priest's run where their "romance" was treated as an unrealistic-but-cathartic childhood fantasy that would never actually work in any real way. Writers of both characters are now largely ignoring the marriage for exactly that reason.reason.
* UnfortunateImplications: Storm going from a strong black female character whose survived as a popular character since her introduction to some random chick that dropped her panties for T'Challa the first time they met.
* UnfortunateImplications: Storm going from a strong black female character whose survived as a popular character since her introduction to some random chick that dropped her panties for T'Challa the first time they met.
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* CharacterDerailment: Most of what's happened to T'Challa since Priest left the book is arguably this, with each new run taking it further and further. Hudlin's first run completely re-wrote his personality, continuity, and lovelife, then his second run had him punked by Doom and either comatose or whiny throughout, then Doomwar had him trade in his tech for nebulously defined magic powers. Now, Liss has him leaving his country (that he's, you know, the king of) to run a diner in Hell's Kitchen and get yelled at by Luke Cage.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Him and Storm, in one of the most brutal stranglings in mainstream comics. Made worse and/or hilarious by the fact that Storm was a (heavily implied) lesbian under Claremont, only none of her other writer's twigged to it. Also a case of [[CompleteleyMissingThePoint [[CompletelyMissingThePoint Completely Missing the Point], as Hudlin basically built the marriage out of a two-issue cameo from Priest's run where their "romance" was treated as an unrealistic-but-cathartic childhood fantasy that would never actually work in any real way. Writers of both characters are now largely ignoring the marriage for exactly that reason.
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* GodModeSue: Hudlin's interpretation of the character.
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** Averted during Christopher Priest's run too, sure it's one of the most advance nations on the planet but all the many tribes and groups hate each other almost as much as they do outsiders.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Him and Storm.
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** Averted during Christopher Priest's run too, sure it's one of the most advance nations on the planet but all the many tribes and groups hate each other almost as much as they do outsiders.
outsiders, and Panther's constantly having to deal with some tribal war or coup attempt or whatever.
**Honestly, it's basically only this under Hudlin, and even then, only until Doom starts trashing the place.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Him andStorm.Storm, in one of the most brutal stranglings in mainstream comics. Made worse and/or hilarious by the fact that Storm was a (heavily implied) lesbian under Claremont, only none of her other writer's twigged to it. Also a case of [[CompleteleyMissingThePoint Completely Missing the Point], as Hudlin basically built the marriage out of a two-issue cameo from Priest's run where their "romance" was treated as an unrealistic-but-cathartic childhood fantasy that would never actually work in any real way. Writers of both characters are now largely ignoring the marriage for exactly that reason.
**Honestly, it's basically only this under Hudlin, and even then, only until Doom starts trashing the place.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Him and
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* CharacterDerailment: Most of what's happened to T'Challa since Priest left the book is arguably this.
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* CharacterDerailment: Most of what's happened to T'Challa since Priest left the book is arguably this.this, with each new run taking it further and further. Hudlin's first run completely re-wrote his personality, continuity, and lovelife, then his second run had him punked by Doom and either comatose or whiny throughout, then Doomwar had him trade in his tech for nebulously defined magic powers. Now, Liss has him leaving his country (that he's, you know, the king of) to run a diner in Hell's Kitchen and get yelled at by Luke Cage.
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* CharacterDerailment: Most of what's happened to T'Challa since Priest left the book is [[YourMileageMayVary arguably]] this, but [[DethroningMomentofSuck Doomwar]], and everything afterward, is DEFINITELY this.
** No question the previous two books had issues, but the Man without Fear book is showing promise.
*** Eh, most Panther fans (myself included) I know don't really dig on it, on account of the writer having forgotten that T'Challa's supposed to be smart (like, top seven human beings on the planet level smart. Canonically), and Luke Cage being treated as the higher-tier hero.
** No question the previous two books had issues, but the Man without Fear book is showing promise.
*** Eh, most Panther fans (myself included) I know don't really dig on it, on account of the writer having forgotten that T'Challa's supposed to be smart (like, top seven human beings on the planet level smart. Canonically), and Luke Cage being treated as the higher-tier hero.
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** No question the previous two books had issues, but the Man without Fear book is showing promise.
*** Eh, most Panther fans (myself included) I know don't really dig on it, on account of the writer having forgotten that T'Challa's supposed to be smart (like, top seven human beings on the planet level smart. Canonically), and Luke Cage being treated as the higher-tier hero.arguably this.
** No question the previous two books had issues, but the Man without Fear book is showing promise.
*** Eh, most Panther fans (myself included) I know don't really dig on it, on account of the writer having forgotten that T'Challa's supposed to be smart (like, top seven human beings on the planet level smart. Canonically), and Luke Cage being treated as the higher-tier hero.
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* YourMileageMayVary: Black Panther's various runs and guest appearances have been subject to this, due to opinions of Black Panther the character along with his interactions with other MarvelUniverse characters.
* YourMileageMayVary: Black Panther's various runs and guest appearances have been subject to this, due to opinions of Black Panther the character along with his interactions with other MarvelUniverse characters.
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* YourMileageMayVary: Black Panther's various runs and guest appearances have been subject to this, due to opinions of Black Panther the character along with his interactions with other MarvelUniverse characters.Storm.
* YourMileageMayVary: Black Panther's various runs and guest appearances have been subject to this, due to opinions of Black Panther the character along with his interactions with other MarvelUniverse characters.
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** No question the previous two books had issues, but the Man without Fear book is showing promise.
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** Averted during Christopher Priest's run too, sure it's one of the most advance nations on the planet but all the many triads and groups hate each other almost as much as they do outsiders.
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* BadassDecay: Panther has gone from outwitting [[IronMan Tony Stark]], [[TheDevil Mephisto]], and pulling off repeated [[XanatosRoulette impossibly complex and brilliant schemes]], and going to toe-to-toe with heavy hitters like Namor and [[IncredibleHulk the Hulk]] to getting yelled at by Luke Cage for not being as good as Daredevil.