History YMMV / BioShockInfinite

15th Jun '17 1:50:43 PM NB2000
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* MostWonderfulSound: The triple klaxon of an airship that's about to crash after you've destroyed it.


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* MostWonderfulSound: The triple klaxon of an airship that's about to crash after you've destroyed it.
4th Jun '17 2:34:16 PM rjd1922
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** With Death of the Author, one could easily turn the game into an elaborate Christian parable. [[spoiler:Booker, essentially, living through hell until he accepts a "meaningful" sacrificial baptism that cleanses his soul. You could even argue he dies at the end and TheStinger is Booker in heaven]]. No matter how hard Comstock or Booker work, they cannot fix themselves. They must eventually come to grips with what they have done and forgive themselves, similar to Christian theology that only accepting Christ's forgiveness, and not justifying one's self with works, is the key to salvation. When Booker and Comstock attempt to earn forgiveness, their good intentions tend to [[NiceJobBreakingItHero make things worse.]]

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** With Death of the Author, DeathOfTheAuthor, one could easily turn the game into an elaborate Christian parable. [[spoiler:Booker, essentially, living through hell until he accepts a "meaningful" sacrificial baptism that cleanses his soul. You could even argue he dies at the end and TheStinger is Booker in heaven]]. No matter how hard Comstock or Booker work, they cannot fix themselves. They must eventually come to grips with what they have done and forgive themselves, similar to Christian theology that only accepting Christ's forgiveness, and not justifying one's self with works, is the key to salvation. When Booker and Comstock attempt to earn forgiveness, their good intentions tend to [[NiceJobBreakingItHero make things worse.]]



** Also in BAS, [[spoiler:the Luteces persuade Fitzroy to pretend she wants to kill Fink's son. Her defenders argue that this means she wasn't so bad. Her detractors argue that she was clearly responsible for the deaths of ''everyone the Vox went after'', and her own men that she sent after booker. Plus murdering Fink in cold blood.]]

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** Also in BAS, [[spoiler:the Luteces persuade Fitzroy to pretend she wants to kill Fink's son. Her defenders argue that this means she wasn't so bad. Her detractors argue that she was clearly responsible for the deaths of ''everyone the Vox went after'', and her own men that she sent after booker.Booker. Plus murdering Fink in cold blood.]]



** [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee's]] review of [=BioShock=] 2 includes this quote: "Just as the original had a surprisingly intelligent undertone that deconstructed the very nature of linear gameplay, [=BioShock=] 2 is a sophisticated satirization of the very concept of a sequel that [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks HAR HAR I'm just messing you]]." By the end, it almost seems like Infinite went out of its way to ''be'' that sophisticated satirization of the very concept of a sequel. In his review of ''VideoGame/{{Singularity}}'', which was in many ways ''[=BioShock=]'' with time travel, he commented that he expected a big plot twist at the end like [[spoiler:the BigBad turning out to actually be a future version of the hero]]. Then along comes ''[=BioShock=] Infinite'' with that exact plot twist at the end. Double points for Singularity's best ending requiring that [[spoiler:you die]].
*** He also suggested the vigors were taken from "a reality rift to the convenience dimension". [[spoiler: Burial at Sea reveals they were discovered via a tear to Rapture.]]

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** [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee's]] review of [=BioShock=] 2 ''VideoGame/BioShock2'' includes this quote: "Just as the original had a surprisingly intelligent undertone that deconstructed the very nature of linear gameplay, [=BioShock=] 2 ''[=BioShock=] 2'' is a sophisticated satirization of the very concept of a sequel that [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks HAR HAR I'm just messing you]]." By the end, it almost seems like Infinite went out of its way to ''be'' that sophisticated satirization of the very concept of a sequel. In his review of ''VideoGame/{{Singularity}}'', which was in many ways ''[=BioShock=]'' with time travel, he commented that he expected a big plot twist at the end like [[spoiler:the BigBad turning out to actually be a future version of the hero]]. Then along comes ''[=BioShock=] Infinite'' with that exact plot twist at the end. Double points for Singularity's ''Singularity'''s best ending requiring that [[spoiler:you die]].
*** He also suggested the vigors were taken from "a reality rift to the convenience dimension". [[spoiler: Burial [[spoiler:''Burial at Sea Sea'' reveals they were discovered via a tear to Rapture.]]



** Fink uses the term "Lion" to describe himself in his social philosophy. In Burial at Sea, turns out Andrew Ryan does too, at least when teaching kids.

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** Fink uses the term "Lion" to describe himself in his social philosophy. In Burial ''Burial at Sea, Sea'', turns out Andrew Ryan does too, at least when teaching kids.
24th May '17 8:54:15 PM Rebu
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In ''Burial at Sea'', [[spoiler:was that universe's Booker/Comstock genuinely regretful on what he did or was he just a DirtyCoward]]?
** [[spoiler:The latter interpretation is what got him killed in the first place, in the hands of a vengeful Elizabeth.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In ''Burial at Sea'', [[spoiler:was that universe's Booker/Comstock genuinely regretful on what he did or was he just a DirtyCoward]]?
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DirtyCoward? The latter interpretation is what got him killed in the first place, in the hands of a vengeful Elizabeth.]]
** Also in BAS, [[spoiler:the Luteces persuade Fitzroy to pretend she wants to kill Fink's son. Her defenders argue that this means she wasn't so bad. Her detractors argue that she was clearly responsible for the deaths of ''everyone the Vox went after'', and her own men that she sent after booker. Plus murdering Fink in cold blood.
]]
16th May '17 3:43:48 PM nombretomado
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** Whether or not Columbia could actually destroy the world. A lot of information is unknown about the 1984 attack, so no truly decisive calls can be made. Doesn't stop everyone from arguing over it (see the [[Headscratchers/BioShockInfinite BioShock Infinite Headscratchers]] page for some TVTropes examples of this).

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** Whether or not Columbia could actually destroy the world. A lot of information is unknown about the 1984 attack, so no truly decisive calls can be made. Doesn't stop everyone from arguing over it (see the [[Headscratchers/BioShockInfinite BioShock Infinite Headscratchers]] page for some TVTropes Wiki/TVTropes examples of this).
2nd May '17 10:33:38 PM rjd1922
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** Elizabeth's design was changed in a 2011 update from [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101021011535/bioshock/images/b/bd/Bioshockinfinite_elizabeth_portrait.png raven black hair, freckles with glassy, large eyes]] to [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110608010626/bioshock/images/2/26/Elizabeth.jpg brown hair, no freckles and smaller eyes]]. Fans are pretty split on if they want the old Elizabeth back or like the new one. Funnily enough, [[DevelopmentGag the old model still gets recycled]] [[spoiler:as one of the alternate Elizabeths in the ending]].

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** Elizabeth's design was changed in a 2011 update from [[http://images1.[[https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101021011535/bioshock/images/b/bd/Bioshockinfinite_elizabeth_portrait.png net/bioshock/images/2/2b/DynamicElizabeth.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130328082012 raven black hair, freckles with glassy, large eyes]] to [[http://images2.[[https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110608010626/bioshock/images/2/26/Elizabeth.jpg net/bioshock/images/0/07/Elizabeth-C.png/revision/latest?cb=20130501031608 brown hair, no freckles and smaller eyes]]. Fans are pretty split on if they want the old Elizabeth back or like the new one. Funnily enough, [[DevelopmentGag the old model still gets recycled]] [[spoiler:as one of the alternate Elizabeths in the ending]].
11th Apr '17 10:57:05 AM IchigoMontoya
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** [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 Jack]]/[[HoYay Elizabeth]] and [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa]]/Elizabeth are also pretty popular.

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** [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 Jack]]/[[HoYay Jack]]/[[GirlOnGirlIsHot Elizabeth]] and [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa]]/Elizabeth are also pretty popular.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Daisy Fitzroy, due to a combination of tragic backstory and completely understandable motives for destroying the Founders, not to mention a bit of TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified. She has a following on Tumblr, feeling that her attempting to kill a child was ham-handed. Said advocates also say that Booker's "the Vox are bad for their violence" is a false dichotomy.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Daisy Fitzroy, due to a combination of a tragic backstory and completely understandable motives for destroying the Founders, not to mention a bit of TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified. She has a following on Tumblr, feeling who feel that her attempting attempt to kill a child was ham-handed. Said advocates also say that Booker's "the Vox are bad for their violence" is a false dichotomy.



** Hell, most of the anachronistic covers count. There's also that hideously racist but immensely catchy song that plays in Soldier's Field coaxing children to enter military service.

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** Hell, most of the anachronistic covers count. There's also that hideously racist racist, but immensely catchy song that plays in Soldier's Field coaxing children to enter military service.



* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: Received this even more than ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' - extensive praise for its storytelling, but criticism for its gameplay, which had been simplified even further from its predecessors. Much like the first ''Bioshock'' it was also criticized for its DisappointingLastLevel.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Lutece twins are rather endearing with their [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} odd behavior]] and speech mannerisms. They even ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQERpgTr2jM won]]'' the recent VGX award for "Best Character of the Year."
* FandomBerserkButton: If you hurt Elizabeth, you are screwed. [[spoiler: Atlas]] did that, and now the fandom hates him.

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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: Received this even more than ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' - extensive praise for its storytelling, but criticism for its gameplay, which had been simplified even further from its predecessors. Much like the first ''Bioshock'' ''Bioshock'', it was also criticized for its DisappointingLastLevel.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Lutece twins are rather endearing with their [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} [[CloudCuckoolander odd behavior]] and speech mannerisms. They even ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQERpgTr2jM won]]'' the recent VGX award for "Best Character of the Year."
* FandomBerserkButton: If you hurt Elizabeth, you are you're screwed. [[spoiler: Atlas]] Atlas/Fontaine]] did that, and now the fandom hates him.



** Even though it is possible to [[{{Irony}} set Flambeau on fire]] with a melee attack, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEB2hIPZv4 and he will scream in agony as he burns to death]], [[TheJeeves he never loses his impeccable posture]]. He ''is'' a gentleman above all else, don't you know.

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** Even though it is it's possible to [[{{Irony}} set Flambeau on fire]] with a melee attack, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEB2hIPZv4 and he will scream in agony as he burns to death]], [[TheJeeves he never loses his impeccable posture]]. He ''is'' a gentleman above all else, don't you know. know?
3rd Apr '17 6:07:51 AM CrowTR0bot
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* RetroactiveRecognition: So apparently [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Jasper]] is the leader of the Vox Populi.
30th Mar '17 5:40:27 AM Turrican
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** You can't carry health kits anymore, having instead to rely on a regenerating shield and health items in the field.


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** It's telling that some of the main gameplay improvements in ''Burial at Sea'' was bringing back features that were removed from the original game, including being able to carry all weapons at the same time, and replacing the regenerating shield with the ability to carry up to 5 health kits in the second episode of the DLC.
14th Mar '17 9:59:12 AM IchigoMontoya
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* AntiClimaxBoss: When you run into BigBad Comstock near the end of the game, despite having sent armies against you, tried DeathFromAbove, and even sent [[PersonOfMassDestruction Songbird]]. So naturally he'll be quite the [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking difficult boss fight]] right? [[spoiler:Except Booker kills him by slamming his head a few times on a stone pedestal, and then drowns him. Justified since several audiologs throughout the game state that Comstock has terminal cancer.]]

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* AntiClimaxBoss: AnticlimaxBoss: When you run into BigBad Comstock [[BigBad Zachary Comstock]] himself near the end of the game, despite having the fact that he's sent armies against you, tried subjecting you to DeathFromAbove, and even sent [[PersonOfMassDestruction in [[TheJuggernaut Songbird]]. So naturally naturally, he'll be quite the [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking difficult boss fight]] fight]], right? [[spoiler:Except Booker kills him by strangling him, slamming his head a few times on a stone pedestal, and then drowns him. drowning him with said pedestal's holy water. Justified since several audiologs throughout the game state that Comstock has terminal cancer.cancer, meaning he was in no real state to pose a physical threat to Booker.]]
3rd Feb '17 8:08:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Most Wonderful Sound: The triple klaxon of an airship that's about to crash after you've destroyed it.

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* Most Wonderful Sound: MostWonderfulSound: The triple klaxon of an airship that's about to crash after you've destroyed it.
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