History YMMV / BioShockInfinite

3rd Feb '16 11:27:59 AM autoslizer
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The writing seems to pick from the worst excesses of racism, religious fanaticism (Comstock), unchecked capitalism (Fink), revolutionary movements and communism (Fitzroy) exhibited within the last 150 years and adapt them to Columbia. If there's any kind of moral to take away from the story, it's probably "Extremism in any direction is bad." Which is perfectly in line with the message of the other games, really.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The writing seems to pick from the worst excesses of racism, religious fanaticism (Comstock), unchecked capitalism (Fink), revolutionary movements and communism (Fitzroy) exhibited within the last 150 years and adapt them to Columbia. If there's any kind of moral to take away from the story, it's probably "Extremism in any direction is bad." Which is perfectly in line with the message of the other games, really.really, except they didn't cramp so many ideaologies into one game.
15th Jan '16 1:02:44 AM Anddrix
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** [[ViewersAreMorons WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CARD!]] [[note]] The line Booker says at the beginning when he draws the card showing the player exactly how to activate the lighthouse signal[[/note]]
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** [[ViewersAreMorons WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CARD!]] CARD! [[note]] The line Booker says at the beginning when he draws the card showing the player exactly how to activate the lighthouse signal[[/note]]
1st Jan '16 8:00:04 AM LahmacunKebab
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** Similarly, the fight with ThatOneBoss ([[spoiler: the "resurrected" Lady Comstock]]) is much easier if you continually enter and leave the graveyard, triggering all the bodies to re-fill with goodies. This also, hilariously, spawns an additional gun next to each body. If you cycle this many times, you can leave each body buried under a pile of guns.
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** Similarly, the fight with ThatOneBoss ([[spoiler: the ([[spoiler:the "resurrected" Lady Comstock]]) is much easier if you continually enter and leave the graveyard, triggering all the bodies to re-fill with goodies. This also, hilariously, spawns an additional gun next to each body. If you cycle this many times, you can leave each body buried under a pile of guns.
1st Jan '16 7:46:59 AM LahmacunKebab
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** ''Burial at Sea: Episode 2'' has Ryan's Houdini Splicers, which have the same powers as a Houdini Splicer plus the area explosion ability of Firemen. They will use the latter if they are alerted to your presence, even if you're using Peeping Tom to hide from them, making them the only enemy ''in the game'' that can hurt you in that state. They also teleport constantly, which makes getting a BackStab on them a matter of luck, since they need to teleport close enough to get hit by it. To a lesser extent, the metal-masked Vox in the Colombia section are immune to the BackStab. It's a very rude awakening if you happened to look away when it flashed up the warning about it rather than stopping the game to give it as it had been doing.
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** ''Burial at Sea: Episode 2'' has Ryan's Houdini Splicers, which have the same powers as a Houdini Splicer plus the area explosion ability of Firemen. They will use the latter if they are alerted to your presence, even if you're using Peeping Tom to hide from them, making them the only enemy ''in the game'' that can hurt you in that state. They also teleport constantly, which makes getting a BackStab on them a matter of luck, since they need to teleport close enough to get hit by it. To a lesser extent, the metal-masked Vox in the Colombia Columbia section are immune to the BackStab. It's a very rude awakening if you happened to look away when it flashed up the warning about it rather than stopping the game to give it as it had been doing.
28th Dec '15 11:41:59 PM DuckDuckNoose
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** A random quote by one of the schoolteacher splicers reveals that the Ryan the Lion Prep Academy apparently teaches its students about the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons "tragedy of the commons"]] theory -- a principle that did indeed hold true for Rapture, as infighting over scarce resources led to disaster, revolt, and martial law; presumably, the lesson plan skips over the end result and focuses on the temporary benefits.
27th Nov '15 3:12:09 AM LahmacunKebab
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Elizabeth's OfCorsetsSexy outfit, [[spoiler:considering she is ultimately revealed as Booker's daughter, it's rather... revealing nature might send the wrong message. It's possibly why the outfit (which was originally shown to be much more omnipresent) was pushed back to the tail end of the game]].
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Elizabeth's OfCorsetsSexy outfit, [[spoiler:considering she is ultimately revealed as Booker's daughter, it's its rather... revealing nature might send the wrong message. It's possibly why the outfit (which was originally shown to be much more omnipresent) was pushed back to the tail end of the game]].
27th Nov '15 1:57:07 AM LahmacunKebab
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In ''Burial At Sea'', [[spoiler:was that universe's Booker/Comstock, genuinely regretful on what he did or is just a DirtyCoward]]?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In ''Burial At Sea'', [[spoiler:was that universe's Booker/Comstock, Booker/Comstock genuinely regretful on what he did or is just a DirtyCoward]]?
24th Oct '15 12:52:04 PM ACW
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** [[BigBad Father Zachary Hale Comstock]] is the ruler and [[DarkMessiah "Prophet"]] of Columbia. Born [[spoiler:Booker [=DeWitt=]]], as a young man, he took part in the Wounded Knee Massacre, personally scalping several victims and setting fire to tents with women and children inside as a response to taunting about [[BoomerangBigot his own Native American heritage]]. Although initially consumed by guilt, after [[spoiler:accepting a baptism]] and taking the name Zachary Comstock, he saw his actions as righteous, playing up his involvement and dubbing himself "The Hero of Wounded Knee". Going on to construct Columbia, Comstock became a dictator, converting the upper-class populace into a CultOfPersonality devoted to him, while oppressing any non-Americans or people of colour. [[spoiler:After being left sterile, Comstock conspired with the Luteces to steal the child of his AlternateSelf who rejected the baptism, forcing him to sell his daughter, Anna, and preventing Booker from rescuing her]]. Renaming [[spoiler:Anna]] "Elizabeth", Comstock murders his wife ([[FrameUp framing]] Daisy Fitzroy in the process) and tries to kill the Luteces to conceal his crimes. He goes on to imprison Elizabeth in a tower designed to drain her [[RealityWarper powers]] for most of her life, using the monstrous [[GiantFlyer Songbird]] to keep her from leaving. When [[PlayerCharacter Booker]] arrives in Columbia to rescue Elizabeth, Comstock has the local militia hunt for Booker, even having one of his followers immolate herself in an attempt to kill him. When Booker and Elizabeth reach Lady Comstock's tomb, Comstock uses a device to raise his wife from the dead, resulting in a monster that tries to kill them both. After Songbird retrieves Elizabeth, Comstock has her brutally tortured to try and force Elizabeth to become his successor and carry out his plan [[OmnicidalManiac to destroy the world below]] in Comstock's vision of the final judgment. Taking racism, elitism, xenophobia, and self-righteousness to their worst extremes, Zachary Comstock is the worst that the world of ''[=BioShock=] Infinite'' has to offer, driven by the belief [[TautologicalTemplar that he can do no wrong]].
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** [[BigBad **[[BigBad Father Zachary Hale Comstock]] is the ruler and [[DarkMessiah "Prophet"]] of Columbia. Born [[spoiler:Booker [=DeWitt=]]], as a young man, he took part in the Wounded Knee Massacre, personally scalping several victims and setting fire to tents with women and children inside as a response to taunting about [[BoomerangBigot his own Native American heritage]]. Although initially consumed by guilt, after [[spoiler:accepting a baptism]] and taking the name Zachary Comstock, he saw his actions as righteous, playing up his involvement and dubbing himself "The Hero of Wounded Knee". Going on to construct Columbia, Comstock became a dictator, converting the upper-class populace into a CultOfPersonality devoted to him, while oppressing any non-Americans or people of colour.color. [[spoiler:After being left sterile, Comstock conspired with the Luteces to steal the child of his AlternateSelf who rejected the baptism, forcing him to sell his daughter, Anna, and preventing Booker from rescuing her]]. Renaming [[spoiler:Anna]] "Elizabeth", Comstock murders his wife ([[FrameUp framing]] framing Daisy Fitzroy Fitzroy]] in the process) process), and tries to kill the Luteces to conceal his crimes. He goes on to imprison Elizabeth in a tower designed to drain her [[RealityWarper powers]] for most of her life, using the monstrous [[GiantFlyer Songbird]] to keep her from leaving. When [[PlayerCharacter Booker]] arrives in Columbia to rescue Elizabeth, Comstock has the local militia hunt for Booker, even having one of his followers immolate herself in an attempt to kill him. When Booker and Elizabeth reach Lady Comstock's tomb, Comstock uses a device to raise his wife from the dead, resulting in a monster that tries to kill them both. After Songbird retrieves Elizabeth, Comstock has her [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally tortured tortured]] to try and force Elizabeth to become his successor and carry out his plan [[OmnicidalManiac to destroy the world below]] in Comstock's vision of the final judgment. Taking racism, elitism, xenophobia, and self-righteousness to their worst extremes, Zachary Comstock is the worst that the world of ''[=BioShock=] Infinite'' has to offer, driven by the belief [[TautologicalTemplar that he can do no wrong]].
23rd Oct '15 3:28:29 PM Morgenthaler
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* TheUntwist: The incredible amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and TemptingFate moments in the game in regards to [[spoiler:Comstock being an alternate version of Booker]] is a double-edged sword; while it does make a second playthrough full of FridgeBrilliance, it also allows a sufficiently GenreSavvy player to realize this before they manage to pick up a gun.
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* TheUntwist: The incredible amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and TemptingFate moments in the game in regards to [[spoiler:Comstock being an alternate version of Booker]] is a double-edged sword; while it does make a second playthrough full of FridgeBrilliance, it also allows a sufficiently GenreSavvy skilled player to realize this before they manage to pick up a gun.
21st Oct '15 1:21:59 AM captainpat
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Cowboy Bebop At His Computer is trivia item. These need to be moved there, but edited with a less complainly tone.
* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: ** Whoever wrote [[http://www.explosion.com/27625/bioshock-infinite-5-points-that-prove-its-another-sexist-game/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_52949 this article]] clearly has not played the game. As it states that there are no female enemies, despite the fact there is pretty much an even amount of gender ratio on both sides and one of the main bosses in the game is a woman. Even funnier when some of the EnemyChatter consists of them spouting their disgust at sexism. It also uses the evidences that Elizabeth "Is not allowed to fight in combat", which isn't a sexist thing, it was a gamer thing. This was to prevent the game from feel like one long EscortMission which the [[WordOfGod creators]] have fully stated was the reason as to why. Not to mention the fact Elizabeth has been locked in a tower all her life and has zero combat or gun use experience (while Booker was a War Hero by the age of 16), though one of the trailers does show her performing a GroinAttack on someone grabbing her arm. ** [[http://designislaw.tumblr.com/post/54407385762/murderduders-the-men-without-souls-and-the-women-made There's also this]], which claims you can comfort Elizabeth at any time in the game, by using a screenshot from where [[spoiler: she just killed for the first time and is obviously suffering a very traumatic experience,]] but treat it as this was an anytime event [[spoiler: as well as suggest it was you who was the one that killed with those scissors she is holding]]. [[spoiler: They also seem to not realize that Elizabeth is the main character's daughter]]. ** [[http://designislaw.tumblr.com/post/56908254260/bioshock-infinitely-trampling-over-minorities-in-the This]] is a similar article from the same author, by claiming the game promotes racism. This by stating how [[spoiler: a white woman (Elizabeth) kills a colored woman (Daisy)]], completely ignoring the fact that [[spoiler: Elizabeth]] looked up to [[spoiler: Daisy]] as a hero to the people up till that point and she is obviously very traumatized in doing so as [[spoiler: Daisy]] was about to kill a boy simply because he was white - which isn't the case, either - she was going to kill him because he was part of the bourgeois, something that many detractors, the reviewer included, overlook. Not to mention many of the gamers found TheLottery at the beginning very cringe-worthy with a majority throwing the ball at the announcer rather than the mixed-race couple. In a way showing that racism on either side is clearly a bad thing. *** Although it's less common knowledge because it's revealed in a later DLC [[spoiler: Daisy Fitzroy actually had no intention to kill the child regardless]]. Her actions were [[spoiler: part of a HeroicSacrifice / ThanatosGambit]] to make her revolution succeed, and reveal that she was a complex, intelligent, and highly principled character [[spoiler: rather than a psychopathic murderer]] even if some of her revolutionaries were out for nothing but vengeance. ** [[http://designislaw.tumblr.com/post/70292634713/the-allegiance-of-whiteness-the-games-village-of Guess who?]] He now believes the game is "satire", which it clearly isn't.
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