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** [[https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-baltimore-teen-featured-on-cable-tv-show-shot-dead/ One of the kids featured on the show was shot and killed not long afterward.]]
** Another girl featured on the show lost her brother to gang violence only eight days after she completed her jail tour - particularly cruel given that he had been turning his life around after a troubled past of his own.
** Another girl featured on the show lost her brother to gang violence only eight days after she completed her jail tour - particularly cruel given that he had been turning his life around after a troubled past of his own.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies, and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids, and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves receives is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies, and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids, and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies bullies, and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids kids, and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
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* CatharsisFactor: Zig-Zagged: on the one hand, many of the teens are bullies, domestic abusers, or otherwise loathsome pricks, so it often feels good to see them being tormented by hardened inmates and prison guards with severe anger issues; on the other hand, the misdeeds of others aren't always deserving of jail time especially in the age of zero tolerance policies in schools.
** For viewers who dislike the show and its methods, 14 year old Seth absolutely shows how useless it is. He basically looks at it as a break, since he can be away from his bullies at school, [[NoSell reacts to the inmates' threats and abuse with boredom]], [[DeadpanSnarker and takes every opportunity to show that they have ''no'' power over him and can't legally hurt him.]]
* DesignatedHero: Zig-Zagged since "hero" is a subjective philosophical stretch here: [[WellIntentionedExtremist although the officers have the best intentions at heart]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they can be no better than the inmates or teens themselves,]] especially ones who bring up threats of rape and/or death at the drop of a hat. [[DeconstructedTrope For what it's worth, they can be so sanctimonious half the time they scream at the at-risk youths, it makes the viewer wonder about the state of humanity at large.]]
** For viewers who dislike the show and its methods, 14 year old Seth absolutely shows how useless it is. He basically looks at it as a break, since he can be away from his bullies at school, [[NoSell reacts to the inmates' threats and abuse with boredom]], [[DeadpanSnarker and takes every opportunity to show that they have ''no'' power over him and can't legally hurt him.]]
* DesignatedHero: Zig-Zagged since "hero" is a subjective philosophical stretch here: [[WellIntentionedExtremist although the officers have the best intentions at heart]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they can be no better than the inmates or teens themselves,]] especially ones who bring up threats of rape and/or death at the drop of a hat. [[DeconstructedTrope For what it's worth, they can be so sanctimonious half the time they scream at the at-risk youths, it makes the viewer wonder about the state of humanity at large.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: Zig-Zagged: on the one hand, many of the teens are bullies, domestic abusers, or otherwise loathsome pricks, so it often feels good to see them being tormented by hardened inmates and prison guards with severe anger issues; on the other hand, the misdeeds of others aren't always deserving of jail time especially in the age of zero tolerance policies in schools.
**For viewers who dislike the show and its methods, 14 year old Seth absolutely shows how useless it is. He basically looks at it as a break, since he can be away from his bullies at school, [[NoSell reacts to the inmates' threats and abuse with boredom]], [[DeadpanSnarker and takes every opportunity to show that they have ''no'' power over him and can't legally hurt him.]]
* DesignatedHero: Zig-Zagged since "hero" is a subjective philosophical stretch here: [[WellIntentionedExtremist although the officers have the best intentions at heart]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they can be no better than the inmates or teens themselves,]] especially ones who bring up threats of rape and/or death at the drop of a hat. [[DeconstructedTrope For what it's worth, they can be so sanctimonious half the time they scream at the at-risk youths, it makes the viewer wonder about the state of humanity at large.]]
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* DesignatedHero: Zig-Zagged since "hero" is a subjective philosophical stretch here: [[WellIntentionedExtremist although the officers have the best intentions at heart]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they can be no better than the inmates or teens themselves,]] especially ones who bring up threats of rape and/or death at the drop of a hat. [[DeconstructedTrope For what it's worth, they can be so sanctimonious half the time they scream at the at-risk youths, it makes the viewer wonder about the state of humanity at large.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zig-Zagged: it's not hard to end up feeling sorry for half of the kids as most of them haven't even done things that were that bad, especially when the snippets of their parents or home life clearly prove where the kid got their bad attitude and habits from in the first place; however, a lot of the kids also tend to be bullies, thugs and domestic abusers who deserve everything coming to them so in most cases, it's hard to feel sorry for them at large.
** 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Also Zig-Zagged: the cops and inmates are usually very hard to see as heroic as even though they have good intentions, their methods such as screaming, intimidation, and humiliation make them seem no better, if even worse than the kids they're trying to help; though this doesn't apply to all the guards and inmates since half of them tend to be sympathetic to the kids and are often harsher on the really bad kids who actually do deserve it, such as the ones who abuse their parents and bully other kids at school.
** Willie's mother, and by extension the guards who are oblivious to the fact that she is the source of most of his issues. [[AbusiveParents She openly admits that one of her issues with him is that "he hits back", confirming that ''she'' is actually the one who instigates fights, and that she yells at him all the time]]. Then, during her meeting with Willie in prison, she does nothing but put him down and [[KickTheDog tells him that he will end up just like his father (who is in prison), which judging by Willie's reaction, is something she says a lot.]]
** 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Also Zig-Zagged: the cops and inmates are usually very hard to see as heroic as even though they have good intentions, their methods such as screaming, intimidation, and humiliation make them seem no better, if even worse than the kids they're trying to help; though this doesn't apply to all the guards and inmates since half of them tend to be sympathetic to the kids and are often harsher on the really bad kids who actually do deserve it, such as the ones who abuse their parents and bully other kids at school.
** Willie's mother, and by extension the guards who are oblivious to the fact that she is the source of most of his issues. [[AbusiveParents She openly admits that one of her issues with him is that "he hits back", confirming that ''she'' is actually the one who instigates fights, and that she yells at him all the time]]. Then, during her meeting with Willie in prison, she does nothing but put him down and [[KickTheDog tells him that he will end up just like his father (who is in prison), which judging by Willie's reaction, is something she says a lot.]]
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zig-Zagged: it's not hard to end up feeling sorry for half of the kids as most of them haven't even done things that were that bad, especially when the snippets of their parents or home life clearly prove where the kid got their bad attitude and habits from in the first place; however, a lot of the kids also tend to be bullies, thugs and domestic abusers who deserve everything coming to them so in most cases, it's hard to feel sorry for them at large.
**14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:Also Zig-Zagged: the cops and inmates are usually very hard to see as heroic as even though they have good intentions, their methods such as screaming, intimidation, and humiliation make them seem no better, if even worse than the kids they're trying to help; though this doesn't apply to all the guards and inmates since half of them tend to be sympathetic to the kids and are often harsher on the really bad kids who actually do deserve it, such as the ones who abuse their parents and bully other kids at school.
**Willie's mother, and by extension the guards who are oblivious to the fact that she is the source of most of his issues. [[AbusiveParents She openly admits that one of her issues with him is that "he hits back", confirming that ''she'' is actually the one who instigates fights, and that she yells at him all the time]]. Then, during her meeting with Willie in prison, she does nothing but put him down and [[KickTheDog tells him that he will end up just like his father (who is in prison), which judging by Willie's reaction, is something she says a lot.]]
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* DontShootTheMessage: The intended message is spot on -- [[JacobMarleyWarning it's a warning troubled kids about what things will be like if they keep breaking the law, delivered from real prisoners and prison guards]]. But the way it's being delivered by both the inmates and/or guards can fall flat in reality from how [[{{Narm}} unintentionally silly it might be]] or because [[LargeHam the over-the-top screaming at the kids]] can distract from the message.
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* DontShootTheMessage: The intended message is spot on -- [[JacobMarleyWarning it's a warning to troubled kids about what things will be like if they keep breaking the law, delivered from by real prisoners and prison guards]]. But the way it's being delivered by both the inmates and/or guards can fall flat in reality from how [[{{Narm}} unintentionally silly it might be]] or because [[LargeHam the over-the-top screaming at the kids]] can distract from the message.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Though the Aesop is spot on about [[JacobMarleyWarning warning troubled kids about what things will be like if they keep breaking the law from real prisoners]], the way it's being delivered by both the inmates and/or officers can fall flat in reality.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Though the Aesop The intended message is spot on about -- [[JacobMarleyWarning it's a warning troubled kids about what things will be like if they keep breaking the law law, delivered from real prisoners]], prisoners and prison guards]]. But the way it's being delivered by both the inmates and/or officers guards can fall flat in reality.reality from how [[{{Narm}} unintentionally silly it might be]] or because [[LargeHam the over-the-top screaming at the kids]] can distract from the message.
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* TooBleekStoppedCaring: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
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* TooBleekStoppedCaring: TooBleakStoppedCaring: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
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* BrokenBase: While the concept is relatively sound -- [[JacobMarleyWarning warning troubled kids about what things will be like if they keep breaking the law]] -- the execution is a point of contention. Some viewers think that [[CruelToBeKind seeing the harsh realities of prison are just what these kids need]], and that most of them are {{Asshole Victim}}s who have it coming. Other viewers think that the parents, inmates, and police [[WellIntentionedExtremist mean well, but go too far]]. And some people just think of this as a PointAndLaughShow. In any case, it's hard to find a solid consensus.
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* EightDeadlyWords: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
* TooBleekStoppedCaring: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
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* UnfortunateImplications, The show is often [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/02/23/beyond-scared-straights-real-life-controversy.html criticized]] for doing more harm than good; despite this, it still remained on the air.
* ValuesDissonance: Zig-Zagged with some drug crimes in America: smoking weed, not too serious; the drug game at large, 'big trouble'.
** PlayedStraight from a psychological perspective. Just about every study in the last couple decades on the subject confirms that scared straight programs rarely work and are counterproductive, being more likely to cause trauma than personal growth, yet the show still acts like they're the only way to keep teens out of prison.
* ValuesDissonance: Zig-Zagged with some drug crimes in America: smoking weed, not too serious; the drug game at large, 'big trouble'.
** PlayedStraight from a psychological perspective. Just about every study in the last couple decades on the subject confirms that scared straight programs rarely work and are counterproductive, being more likely to cause trauma than personal growth, yet the show still acts like they're the only way to keep teens out of prison.
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** 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies.
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** 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies.bullies and implying that intimidation and abuse are the only methods they are capable of or willing to try when trying to reach kids and don't make any effort to understand why they act out in the first place.
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** Willie is another example of a teen who absolutely [[NoSell NoSells]] the prisoners' attempts fo scare him, and actually attempts to hit one of them when he is goaded into it. While he just grins at their threats at first, when one prisoner starts getting really personal with his insults, Willie just glares at him with fury, [[HorrifyingTheHorror and seems to actually scare the man a bit.]]
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** Willie is another example of a teen who absolutely [[NoSell NoSells]] No Sells]] the prisoners' attempts fo scare him, and actually attempts to hit one of them when he is goaded into it. While he just grins at their threats at first, when one prisoner starts getting really personal with his insults, Willie just glares at him with fury, [[HorrifyingTheHorror and seems to actually scare the man a bit.]]
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** Seth, who is clearly only getting in trouble for standing up to his bullies and because he his mother neglects his special needs, and obviously doesn't deserve to be scared straight. He's also a pretty talented DeadpanSnarker.
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** Seth, who is clearly only getting in trouble for standing up to his bullies and because he his mother neglects his special needs, and obviously doesn't deserve to be scared straight. He's also a pretty talented DeadpanSnarker.
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* ValuesDissonance: Zig-Zagged with some drug crimes in America: smoking weed, not too serious; the drug game at large, 'big trouble'.
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* ValuesDissonance: Zig-Zagged with some drug crimes in America: smoking weed, not too serious; the drug game at large, 'big trouble'.trouble'.
** PlayedStraight from a psychological perspective. Just about every study in the last couple decades on the subject confirms that scared straight programs rarely work and are counterproductive, being more likely to cause trauma than personal growth, yet the show still acts like they're the only way to keep teens out of prison.
** PlayedStraight from a psychological perspective. Just about every study in the last couple decades on the subject confirms that scared straight programs rarely work and are counterproductive, being more likely to cause trauma than personal growth, yet the show still acts like they're the only way to keep teens out of prison.
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** Willie is another example of a teen who absolutely [[NoSell NoSells]] the prisoners' attempts fo scare him, and actually attempts to hit one of them when he is goaded into it. While he just grins at their threats at first, when one prisoner starts getting really personal with his insults, Willie just glares at him with fury, [[HorrifyingTheHorror and seems to actually scare the man a bit.]]
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** [[https://youtu.be/Df6Jo6nQxac "The Door's not open wide enough..."]]
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** [[https://youtu.be/Df6Jo6nQxac "The Door's not open wide enough..."]]"]] For context, a prison guard tries to scare 14 year old Seth by opening the door to an occupied prison cell and threatening to push him in. Seth very calmly (and almost boredly) says he can't go in there. When the guard smugly asks why, [[SmugSnake assuming Seth is just scared]], [[NervesOfSteel the above is his response.]]
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** Willie's mother, and by extension the guards who are oblivious to the fact that she is the source of most of his issues. [[AbusiveParents She openly admits that one of her issues with him is that "he hits back", confirming that ''she'' is actually the one who instigates fights, and that she yells at him all the time]]. Then, during her meeting with Willie in prison, she does nothing but put him down and [[KickTheDog tells him that he will end up just like his father (who is in prison), which judging by Willie's reaction, is something she has says a lot.]]
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** Willie's mother, and by extension the guards who are oblivious to the fact that she is the source of most of his issues. [[AbusiveParents She openly admits that one of her issues with him is that "he hits back", confirming that ''she'' is actually the one who instigates fights, and that she yells at him all the time]]. Then, during her meeting with Willie in prison, she does nothing but put him down and [[KickTheDog tells him that he will end up just like his father (who is in prison), which judging by Willie's reaction, is something she has says a lot.]]
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** Willie's mother, and by extension the guards who are oblivious to the fact that she is the source of most of his issues. [[AbusiveParents She openly admits that one of her issues with him is that "he hits back", confirming that ''she'' is actually the one who instigates fights, and that she yells at him all the time]]. Then, during her meeting with Willie in prison, she does nothing but put him down and [[KickTheDog tells him that he will end up just like his father (who is in prison), which judging by Willie's reaction, is something she has says a lot.]]
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** 14 year old Seth ''obviously'' doesn't deserve the abuse he receives from the guards and inmates, especially since he says he's already being bullied on a daily basis as school. Most of the abuse he recieves is because he doesn't act scared, making the guards in this especially unsympathetic for basically acting like typical bullies.
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** Seth, who is clearly only getting in trouble for standing up to his bullies and because he his mother neglects his special needs, and obviously doesn't deserve to be scared straight. He's also a pretty talented DeadpanSnarker.
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* JerkassWoobie: A good portion if the kids can be considered this, as a lot of them are simply acting out because of their awful situations. Seth, in particular, is only acting the way he is because he is extremely intelligent for his age and possibly has ADHD, making him a target for bullying. It's no surprise that the show's methods have no effect on him, since he is already being bullied.
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** For viewers who dislike the show and its methods, 14 year old Seth absolutely shows how useless it is. He basically looks at it as a break, since he can be away from his bullies at school, [[NoSellreacts to the inmates' threats and abuse with boredom]], [[DeadpanSnarker and takes every opportunity to show that they have ''no'' power over him and can't legally hurt him.]]
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** For viewers who dislike the show and its methods, 14 year old Seth absolutely shows how useless it is. He basically looks at it as a break, since he can be away from his bullies at school, [[NoSellreacts [[NoSell reacts to the inmates' threats and abuse with boredom]], [[DeadpanSnarker and takes every opportunity to show that they have ''no'' power over him and can't legally hurt him.]]
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** For viewers who dislike the show and its methods, 14 year old Seth absolutely shows how useless it is. He basically looks at it as a break, since he can be away from his bullies at school, [[NoSellreacts to the inmates' threats and abuse with boredom]], [[DeadpanSnarker and takes every opportunity to show that they have ''no'' power over him and can't legally hurt him.]]
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[Film/AnimalHouse "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."]] The show is not at all subtle with its {{Jacob Marley Warning}}s from the inmates, and the constant intimidation and abuse by the guards. But it is all ''very'' raw and direct about what happens when you go to jail, delivered with all the subtlety of an angry prison guard screaming in your face. It can get into {{Narm}} territory quickly.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[Film/AnimalHouse "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."]] The show is not at all subtle with its {{Jacob Marley Warning}}s from the inmates, and the constant intimidation and abuse by the guards. But it is all ''very'' raw and direct about what happens when you go to jail, delivered with all the subtlety of an angry prison guard screaming in your face. It can get into {{Narm}} territory quickly.quickly, but the overall message is sound.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Though the Aesop is spot on, the way it's being delivered by both the inmates and/or officers can fall flat in reality.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Though the Aesop is spot on, on about [[JacobMarleyWarning warning troubled kids about what things will be like if they keep breaking the law from real prisoners]], the way it's being delivered by both the inmates and/or officers can fall flat in reality.
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* EightDeadlyWords: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
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* DesignatedHero: Zig-Zagged since "hero" is a subjective philosophical stretch here: [[WellIntentionedExtremist although the officers have the best intentions at heart]], they can be no better than the inmates themselves, especially ones who bring up threats of rape and/or death at the drop of a hat. [[DeconstructedTrope For what it's worth, they can be so sanctimonious half the time they scream at the at-risk youths, it makes the viewer wonder about the state of humanity at large.]]
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* DesignatedHero: Zig-Zagged since "hero" is a subjective philosophical stretch here: [[WellIntentionedExtremist although the officers have the best intentions at heart]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they can be no better than the inmates themselves, or teens themselves,]] especially ones who bring up threats of rape and/or death at the drop of a hat. [[DeconstructedTrope For what it's worth, they can be so sanctimonious half the time they scream at the at-risk youths, it makes the viewer wonder about the state of humanity at large.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: Zig-Zagged: on the one hand, many of the teens are bullies, domestic abusers, or otherwise loathsome pricks, so it often feels good to see them being tormented by hardened inmates; on the other hand, the misdeeds of others aren't always deserving of jail time especially in the age of zero tolerance policies in schools.
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* CatharsisFactor: Zig-Zagged: on the one hand, many of the teens are bullies, domestic abusers, or otherwise loathsome pricks, so it often feels good to see them being tormented by hardened inmates; inmates and prison guards with severe anger issues; on the other hand, the misdeeds of others aren't always deserving of jail time especially in the age of zero tolerance policies in schools.
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* ValuesDissonance: Zig-Zagged with some drug crimes in America: smoking weed, not too serious; the drug game at large, 'big trouble'.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** What else can you say about the ones who end up right back in jail?
** Or the ones who on the ride to jail, say it'll be ''fun.''
** Or the ones who feel the need to smile, laugh, and joke in front of the inmates.
** Special mention goes to one kid in the season 2 premier.
--->'''Correctional Officer''': Who you influenced by?\\
'''Youth''': My favorite rapper.\\
'''C.O.''': Who's your favorite rapper?\\
'''Youth''': Lil' Boosie
*** For those who don't know, Lil' Boosie was incarcerated at the time of the episode's initial airing and had been since before this show began airing; he was later released in 2014 after serving 5 years.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHuhrUhwSQg Or the girl who thought it would be a good idea to swing on a corrections officer.]]
** Or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11FIUIeA3_kOr the boy genius who thought it would be a good idea]] to wear a [[PinkIsForSissies pink Tweety Bird shirt to prison]], a place notorious for brutalizing men who show the slightest sign of effeminacy.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** What else can you say about the ones who end up right back in jail?
** Or the ones who on the ride to jail, say it'll be ''fun.''
** Or the ones who feel the need to smile, laugh, and joke in front of the inmates.
** Special mention goes to one kid in the season 2 premier.
--->'''Correctional Officer''': Who you influenced by?\\
'''Youth''': My favorite rapper.\\
'''C.O.''': Who's your favorite rapper?\\
'''Youth''': Lil' Boosie
*** For those who don't know, Lil' Boosie was incarcerated at the time of the episode's initial airing and had been since before this show began airing; he was later released in 2014 after serving 5 years.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHuhrUhwSQg Or the girl who thought it would be a good idea to swing on a corrections officer.]]
** Or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11FIUIeA3_kOr the boy genius who thought it would be a good idea]] to wear a [[PinkIsForSissies pink Tweety Bird shirt to prison]], a place notorious for brutalizing men who show the slightest sign of effeminacy.
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* ValuesDissonance: Zig-Zagged with some drug crimes in America: smoking weed, not too serious; the drug game at large, 'big trouble'.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** What else can you say about the ones who end up right back in jail?
** Or the ones who on the ride to jail, say it'll be ''fun.''
** Or the ones who feel the need to smile, laugh, and joke in front of the inmates.
** Special mention goes to one kid in the season 2 premier.
--->'''Correctional Officer''': Who you influenced by?\\
'''Youth''': My favorite rapper.\\
'''C.O.''': Who's your favorite rapper?\\
'''Youth''': Lil' Boosie
*** For those who don't know, Lil' Boosie was incarcerated at the time of the episode's initial airing and had been since before this show began airing; he was later released in 2014 after serving 5 years.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHuhrUhwSQg Or the girl who thought it would be a good idea to swing on a corrections officer.]]
** Or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11FIUIeA3_kOr the boy genius who thought it would be a good idea]] to wear a [[PinkIsForSissies pink Tweety Bird shirt to prison]], a place notorious for brutalizing men who show the slightest sign of effeminacy.trouble'.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** What else can you say about the ones who end up right back in jail?
** Or the ones who on the ride to jail, say it'll be ''fun.''
** Or the ones who feel the need to smile, laugh, and joke in front of the inmates.
** Special mention goes to one kid in the season 2 premier.
--->'''Correctional Officer''': Who you influenced by?\\
'''Youth''': My favorite rapper.\\
'''C.O.''': Who's your favorite rapper?\\
'''Youth''': Lil' Boosie
*** For those who don't know, Lil' Boosie was incarcerated at the time of the episode's initial airing and had been since before this show began airing; he was later released in 2014 after serving 5 years.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHuhrUhwSQg Or the girl who thought it would be a good idea to swing on a corrections officer.]]
** Or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11FIUIeA3_kOr the boy genius who thought it would be a good idea]] to wear a [[PinkIsForSissies pink Tweety Bird shirt to prison]], a place notorious for brutalizing men who show the slightest sign of effeminacy.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[Film/AnimalHouse "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."]] The show is not at all subtle with its {{Jacob Marley Warning}}s from the inmates, and the constant intimidation and abuse by the guards. But it is all ''very'' raw and direct about what happens when you go to jail, delivered with all the subtlety of an angry prison guard screaming in your face. While it can get into {{Narm}} territory quickly, the inmates know they screwed up, and want to make it perfectly clear to these kids that acting tough and/or doing crimes is the DUMBEST thing you can do at a young age, since they're throwing their lives away. The ones that talk are people who are stuck in there for life, so they are likely trying to drill it into their heads directly since thick-headed punks like them know what gets through to other punks: being direct and in their face.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[Film/AnimalHouse "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."]] The show is not at all subtle with its {{Jacob Marley Warning}}s from the inmates, and the constant intimidation and abuse by the guards. But it is all ''very'' raw and direct about what happens when you go to jail, delivered with all the subtlety of an angry prison guard screaming in your face. While it It can get into {{Narm}} territory quickly, the inmates know they screwed up, and want to make it perfectly clear to these kids that acting tough and/or doing crimes is the DUMBEST thing you can do at a young age, since they're throwing their lives away. The ones that talk are people who are stuck in there for life, so they are likely trying to drill it into their heads directly since thick-headed punks like them know what gets through to other punks: being direct and in their face.quickly.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Believe it or not. Some are of the BlackComedy variety, naturally. A notable example occurs in the Season 3 San Bernadino, CA: Boys episode. An inmate asks a juvenile offender, "Were you high when you got that ugly haircut?"
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Believe it or not. Some are of the BlackComedy variety, naturally. naturally.
** A notable example occurs in the Season 3 San Bernadino, CA: Boys episode. An inmate asks a juvenile offender, "Were you high when you got that uglyhaircut?"haircut?"
** Another hilarious moment happens when it turns out one of the delinquents is wearing a ''pink Tweety bird shirt'' under his prison uniform. One prisoner calls it "a bitch-ass shirt".
** A notable example occurs in the Season 3 San Bernadino, CA: Boys episode. An inmate asks a juvenile offender, "Were you high when you got that ugly
** Another hilarious moment happens when it turns out one of the delinquents is wearing a ''pink Tweety bird shirt'' under his prison uniform. One prisoner calls it "a bitch-ass shirt".
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[Film/AnimalHouse "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."]] The show is not at all subtle with its {{Jacob Marley Warning}}s from the inmates, and the constant intimidation and abuse by the guards. But it is all ''very'' raw and direct about what happens when you go to jail, delivered with all the subtlety of an angry prison guard screaming in your face. While it can get into {{Narm}} territory quickly, the inmates know they screwed up, and want to make it perfectly clear to these kids that acting tough and/or doing crimes is the DUMBEST thing you can do at a young age, since they're throwing their lives away. The ones that talk are people who are stuck in there for life, so they are likely trying to drill it into their heads directly since thick-headed punks like them know what gets through to other punks: being direct and in their face.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: While it can get into Narm territory quickly, the inmates know they screwed up, and want to make it perfectly clear to these kids that acting tough and/or doing crimes is the DUMBEST thing you can do at a young age, since they're throwing their lives away. The ones that talk are people who are stuck in there for life, so they are likely trying to drill it into their heads directly since thick-headed punks like them know what gets through to other punks: being direct and in their face.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
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--->'''Kydada:''' That street life, that gang, that... All that mess. It's not going to do nothing for you! ''(Kydada breaks down crying)'' I love y'all so much! ''(Putting the phone down, she stands up and walks away)''' Oh my God! I can't take this!
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--->'''Kydada:''' That street life, that gang, that... All that mess. It's not going to do nothing for you! ''(Kydada breaks down crying)'' I love y'all so much! Oh my God! I can't take this! ''(Putting the phone down, she stands up and walks away)''' Oh my God! I can't take this!away into the corner, sobbing)''
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: For many people, it's impossible to root for either side in this show. On one hand, you have the kids who are taken onto the show that are disrespectful and disobedient lawbreakers who are abusive to their own parents and siblings, and like to take drugs, but then you have the prison guards and inmates that are sadistic bullies who like to scream at and humiliate the kids on the show and make them cry, and although they claim to be doing it for the kids' own good, they seem to enjoy it too much, making it hard to see them in a sympathetic light either.
