History YMMV / Batwoman

* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: J. H. Williams III earned two Eisner Awards for his work in the initial Detective Comics run, and later won an Inkwell Award for the titular series. There's a buttload of amazing two-page spreads with outstanding panel layouts.

* ShipToShipCombat: Kate/Renee vs. Kate/Maggie. Fans will debate over which pairing had the better chemistry, which stories were better, etc.

* CommonKnowledge: A common belief is that Kate regularly uses and carries guns, whether with standard ammo or rubber bullets. However, this is only true for the WesternAnimation/DCAnimatedMovieUniverse, not the comics, and was popularized by ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood''. It's true that Kate owns several guns, is comfortable around them, and has fewer qualms about using lethal force than Bruce does, but the number of times Kate has even ''held'' a gun on-panel could likely be counted on two hands.

* CompleteMonster ("To Drown the World" and "World's Finest" arcs): [[WouldHurtAChild Maro Ito]] is a former warlock who became a servant of the Medusa cult, planning to unleash monsters from Greek mythology upon mankind. Starting off by drowning the children of Maria Salvaje, thus turning her into the Weeping Woman, Maro goes off to create several more monsters and have them kill and kidnap young women and children, whom he used for HumanSacrifice. Manipulating Batwoman--Katherine "Kate" Kane--to help [[TheStarscream kill his master]] Christopher Falchion, Maro becomes the chief servant of Medusa and helps her free many monsters from the myths, who then proceed to cause chaos all over Gotham, killing hundreds. Later on, he assists Medusa in the summoning of Mother of all Monsters to [[KillAllHumans bring the end of mankind]].

* CommonKnowledge: A common belief is that Kate regularly uses and carries guns, whether with standard ammo or rubber bullets. However, this is only true for the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies continuity, not the comics, and was popularized by ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood''. It's true that Kate owns several guns, is comfortable around them, and has fewer qualms about using lethal force than Bruce does, but the number of times Kate has even ''held'' a gun on-panel could likely be counted on two hands.

* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/{{Batwoman}} Has its own page.]]

* CompleteMonster: [[WouldHurtAChild Maro Ito]] is a former warlock who became a servant of the Medusa cult, planning to unleash monsters from Greek mythology upon mankind. Starting off by drowning the children of Maria Salvaje, thus turning her into the Weeping Woman, Maro goes off to create several more monsters and have them kill and kidnap young women and children, whom he used for HumanSacrifice. Manipulating Batwoman to help [[TheStarscream kill his master]] Christopher Falchion, Maro becomes the chief servant of Medusa and helps her free many monsters from the myths, who then proceed to cause chaos all over Gotham, killing hundreds. Later on, he assists Medusa in the summoning of Mother of all Monsters to [[KillAllHumans bring the end of mankind]].

TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Though some liked the above-mentioned ''Crimes of Passion'' story for tying up some loose ends from the New 52 series, others were disappointed that the story involved a couple that had been broken up for years at that point, instead of being a more relevant romantic tale about Kate and her current partner Renee Montoya.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Recently, DC released ''Crimes of Passion'', a Valentine's themed anthology one-shot that featured a story about Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer, and Nocturna. The story finally addressed what Nocturna did to Kate and to the delight of many, featured Kate managing to mend some fences with Maggie ''and'' had Kate beat the shit out of Nocturna for raping her. It helps the story finally acknowledges how Kate was traumatized by the event and her grief being treated as valid by both Maggie and the narrative.

** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-and-RWBY-Crossovers/50/10833/ There]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Arkham-Asylum_and_RWBY_Crossovers/5520/10833/ were]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Begins-Dark-Knight-and-RWBY-Crossovers/2161/10833/ seve]][[https://tinyurl.com/ydg6uttg ral]] ''Franchise/{{Batman}}''/''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' crossover FanFics and then the announcement came for a ''Series/{{Batwoman}}'' live action series with the titular character to be played by Creator/RubyRose (the actress, [[NamesTheSame not the fictional character]]). It swiftly segued into FunnyAneurysmMoment though because of the backlash, which was negated by a WinTheCrowd moment after the costume was revealed to be faithful to the comics.

* CompleteMonster: [[WouldHurtAChild Maro Ito]] is a former warlock who became a servant of the Medusa cult, planning to unleash monsters from Greek mythology upon mankind. Starting off by drowning the children of Maria Salvaje, thus turning her into the Weeping Woman, Maro goes off to create several more monsters and have them kill and kidnap young women and children, whom he used for HumanSacrifice. Manipulating Batwoman to help [[TheStarscream kill his master]] Christopher Falchion , Maro becomes the chief servant of Medusa and helps her free many monsters from the myths, who then proceed to cause chaos all over Gotham, killing hundreds. Later on, he assists Medusa in the summoning of Mother of all Monsters to [[KillAllHumans bring the end of mankind]].

* CompleteMonster: Maro, introduced in #6. [[spoiler: He purposefully drowned the children of Maria, the woman who would go on to kill herself and become the Weeping Woman, because his magic relies on the power of belief. Because people believe in the legend of the Weeping Woman, Maro intended to use that to keep Maria from passing on after she inevitably killed herself and transform her into the urban legend, and she would go on to steal and/or kill more children.]]

** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-and-RWBY-Crossovers/50/10833/ There]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Arkham-Asylum_and_RWBY_Crossovers/5520/10833/ were]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Begins-Dark-Knight-and-RWBY-Crossovers/2161/10833/ seve]][[https://tinyurl.com/ydg6uttg ral]] ''Franchise/{{Batman}}''/''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' crossover FanFics and then the announcement came for a ''Series/{{Batwoman}}'' live action series with the titular character to be played by Ruby Rose (the actress, not the fictional character). It swiftly segued into FunnyAneurysmMoment though because of the backlash.

* BrokenBase: The description of CW!Kate as having "a passion for social justice" has been divisive, to say the least. Some are happy that this will give the franchise more feminist and LGBT themes, while others think that this will just be an excuse to rag on straight males. Others simply don't like that this sort of characterization is more akin to Comic!Ollie instead of Comic!Kate, while some say that it's a reasonable expansion for an adaptation.

* AwesomeArt: J. H. Williams III earned two Eisner Awards for his work in the initial Detective Comics run, and later won an Inkwell Award for the titular series. There's a buttload of amazing two-page spreads with outstanding panel layouts.

** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-and-RWBY-Crossovers/50/10833/ There]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Arkham-Asylum_and_RWBY_Crossovers/5520/10833/ were]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Begins-Dark-Knight-and-RWBY-Crossovers/2161/10833/ seve]][[https://tinyurl.com/ydg6uttg ral]] Franchise/{{Batman}}/WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} crossover FanFics and then the announcement came for a ''Series/{{Batwoman}}'' live action series with the titular character to be played by Ruby Rose (the actress, not the fictional character). It swiftly segued into FunnyAneurysmMoment though because of the backlash.

** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-and-RWBY-Crossovers/50/10833/ There]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Arkham-Asylum_and_RWBY_Crossovers/5520/10833/ were]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/Batman-Begins-Dark-Knight-and-RWBY-Crossovers/2161/10833/ seve]][[https://tinyurl.com/ydg6uttg ral]] Franchise/{{Batman}}/WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} crossover FanFics and then the announcement came for a ''Series/{{Batwoman}}'' live action series with the titular character to be played by Ruby Rose (the actress, not the fictional character). It swiftly segued into HarsherInHindsight though because of the backlash.

* BrokenBase: The revelation of Kathy Kane being a social justice warrior has been divisive to say the least. Some are happy that this will give the franchise more feminist and LGBT themes, while others accused them of not knowing what a social justice warrior really is and think that this will use these themes as an excuse to rag on straight males.

** The New52 introduction of Nocturna also earned some ire; while the readers remaining after the departure of Blackman and Williams III were intrigued by the possibilities the character could have, once in play it left a particularly sour taste in readers' mouths as Nocturna's immediate actions basically bordered on RapeAsDrama, ruined the Kate/Maggie relationship and generally felt poorly handled, especially given Andreyko was responsible for the immensely popular Manhunter revamp of previous years.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Inevitable with the change in creative teams. Complaints cover virtually all aspects of the comic: the writing is worse, the art is worse, the supernatural element is gone, and characters are no longer themselves, especially Batwoman herself, who went through significant BadassDecay both physically and psychologically.

** In "Webs", the first arc after Blackman and Williams left, Batwoman has trouble fighting C-lister Wolf Spider (who has nowhere near her level of training) and gets pretty beat up. For reference, earlier in this same series Kate fought off ''demigods'' and took almost no damage. She was even able to defeat Bane after he punched her square in the face, and only got moderately bloodied from that and showed no bruising afterward. Even with Wolf Spider's use of fear toxin, his skill against Kate is a bit unbelievable.

* HilariousInHindsight: Given the heavy amount of ExecutiveMeddling used on ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'', it's probably a very good thing that Batwoman didn't have a stronger role in the story. This can be further strengthened by how universally reviled the series ended up being.