History YMMV / BatmanForever

4th Apr '18 10:07:41 AM BeastC
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: As overly colorful this Batman film is, you'll seldom see these visuals or architecture in any other movie, leading to a unique-looking movie with a unique-looking production design.
29th Mar '18 5:16:50 AM NoxSky12599
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The 16-bit games, published by Acclaim, is a platformer/fighter using ''VideoGame/MortalKombat''-style controls. It was met with mediocre reviews. [[LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading It also had huge loading times]] in the UsefulNotes/{{SNES}}/Super Famicom version. Easily one of the most frustrating of the ''Batman'' licensed games, combining the clunkiness of a BeatEmUp with the blind jumps of a {{platform|Hell}}er(!) and confounding controls which caused most players to become stumped on the very first screen. For this reason, WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd gives this particular game a ''well-deserved'' ripping apart during his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvtk5toGJg two]]-[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvs6JDSBqoE part]] Batman special. It might be worth taking the game for a spin, as it does experiment with some novel ideas.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The 16-bit games, published by Acclaim, is a platformer/fighter using ''VideoGame/MortalKombat''-style controls. It was met with mediocre reviews. [[LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading It also had huge loading times]] in the UsefulNotes/{{SNES}}/Super Famicom version. Easily one of the most frustrating of the ''Batman'' licensed games, combining the clunkiness of a BeatEmUp with the blind jumps of a {{platform|Hell}}er(!) and confounding controls which caused most players to become stumped on the very first screen. For this reason, WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd gives this particular game a ''well-deserved'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVW-w-vBeG8 ripping apart apart]] during his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvtk5toGJg two]]-[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvs6JDSBqoE part]] Batman special. It might be worth taking the game for a spin, as it does experiment with some novel ideas.
21st Mar '18 9:27:58 PM randomguy399
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who aren't fans of the film still enjoy its version of The Riddler. It certainly helps that he's played by Creator/JimCarrey, one of the few actors who can [[RuleOfSeanConnery still be entertaining in even the lousiest of movies]], and has [[SpotlightStealingSquad just as much airtime than]] ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad Batman himself]]''. The Carrey Riddler has had ''some'' influence on damn near every portrayal of the character since, particularly Wally Wingert's take in [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries the Arkham games]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who aren't fans of the film still enjoy its version of The Riddler. It certainly helps that he's played by Creator/JimCarrey, one of the few actors who can [[RuleOfSeanConnery still be entertaining in even the lousiest of movies]], and has [[SpotlightStealingSquad just as much airtime than]] as]] ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad Batman himself]]''. The Carrey Riddler has had ''some'' influence on damn near every portrayal of the character since, particularly Wally Wingert's take in [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries the Arkham games]].
21st Mar '18 9:27:33 PM randomguy399
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who aren't fans of the film still enjoy its version of The Riddler. It certainly helps that he's played by Creator/JimCarrey, one of the few actors who can [[RuleOfSeanConnery still be entertaining in even the lousiest of movies]], and has [[SpotlightStealingSquad even more airtime than]] ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad Batman himself]]''. The Carrey Riddler has had ''some'' influence on damn near every portrayal of the character since, particularly Wally Wingert's take in [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries the Arkham games]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who aren't fans of the film still enjoy its version of The Riddler. It certainly helps that he's played by Creator/JimCarrey, one of the few actors who can [[RuleOfSeanConnery still be entertaining in even the lousiest of movies]], and has [[SpotlightStealingSquad even more just as much airtime than]] ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad Batman himself]]''. The Carrey Riddler has had ''some'' influence on damn near every portrayal of the character since, particularly Wally Wingert's take in [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries the Arkham games]].
20th Feb '18 12:59:51 AM Psyga315
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* HarsherInHindsight: The movie, while not up to the Burton/Keaton standard, was really not that bad on its own merits, and Creator/JimCarrey's Riddler was actually quite well received. Unfortunately ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' was so bad it actually made this movie look worse by association.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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The movie, while not up to the Burton/Keaton standard, was really not that bad on its own merits, and Creator/JimCarrey's Riddler was actually quite well received. Unfortunately ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' was so bad it actually made this movie look worse by association.



* HoYay: Two Face and the Riddler are getting pretty affectionate towards the end of the film. They were ''cuddling''.

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** Tommy Lee Jones told Jim Carrey that he doesn't approve of his buffoonery... Keep that in mind when his character ends up doing the more zany movements of the two villains.
* HoYay: HoYay:
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Two Face and the Riddler are getting pretty affectionate towards the end of the film. They were ''cuddling''.
20th Jan '18 11:57:16 AM HarryLovesHermione
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** The Batcave's "intruder alert" actually ''unveils'' the equipment and Batmobile rather than securing it.
22nd Dec '17 5:42:54 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* ContestedSequel: These days, many consider it rather disgraceful, partly because [[FranchiseOriginalSin it established trends that led to the next movie and most consider it hurt superhero movies overall]]. On the other hand, some people still prefer it over its [[Film/BatmanReturns predecessor]] for giving Batman more screentime[[note]]Batman and Bruce Wayne have more on-screen time than the other films in the quadrilogy, clocking in at 48 minutes over the Burton films at 38 minutes and ''Batman & Robin'' clocking in at a scant 29 minutes.[[/note]] & treating him more like a hero rather than the borderline sociopath he can be in some other adaptations, and also for the film itself at least having a very consistent tone and identity (whereas ''Returns'' often had trouble with the darkness and camp clashing and leaving the film feeling like it didn't know what it wanted to be).

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* ContestedSequel: These days, many consider it rather disgraceful, partly because [[FranchiseOriginalSin it established trends that led to the next movie and most consider it hurt superhero movies overall]]. On the other hand, some people still prefer it over its [[Film/BatmanReturns predecessor]] for giving Batman more screentime[[note]]Batman and Bruce Wayne have more on-screen time than the other films in the quadrilogy, clocking in at 48 minutes over the Burton films at 38 minutes and ''Batman & Robin'' clocking in at a scant 29 minutes.[[/note]] & and treating him more like a hero rather than the borderline sociopath he can be in some other adaptations, and also for the film itself at least having a very consistent tone and identity (whereas ''Returns'' often had trouble with the darkness and camp clashing and leaving the film feeling like it didn't know what it wanted to be).
7th Dec '17 8:28:25 PM NWolfman
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Dick Grayson's kung-fu laundry.
** Alfred had the same reaction the audience did.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Dick Grayson's kung-fu laundry.
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laundry. Alfred had the same reaction the audience did.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who aren't fans of the film still enjoy its version of The Riddler. It certainly helps that Creator/JimCarrey portrayed him and that [[SpotlightStealingSquad he had even more airtime than]] ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad Batman himself]]''. The Carrey Riddler has had ''some'' influence on damn near every portrayal of the character since, particularly Wally Wingert's take in [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries the Arkham games]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who aren't fans of the film still enjoy its version of The Riddler. It certainly helps that Creator/JimCarrey portrayed him he's played by Creator/JimCarrey, one of the few actors who can [[RuleOfSeanConnery still be entertaining in even the lousiest of movies]], and that has [[SpotlightStealingSquad he had even more airtime than]] ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad Batman himself]]''. The Carrey Riddler has had ''some'' influence on damn near every portrayal of the character since, particularly Wally Wingert's take in [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries the Arkham games]].
7th Dec '17 8:24:54 PM NWolfman
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The film arguably works better if one embraces it as a loud, larger than life and very colorful action adventure movie for the summer blockbuster set as opposed to a straight adaptation of Batman.
* TheScrappy: Opinions vary wildly about the cast of characters and how they were portrayed in this movie, but Creator/TommyLeeJones's Two-Face is consistently hated, due to taking a serious character torn between good and evil and reducing him to a cackling Joker-wannabe. Another point of sourness for the fanbase is how in this incarnation, he does do-over flips of his coin until he gets the decision he wants, which really goes against his character. And let's not really get into the fact that the Burton films, which are theoretically in-continuity with this film, set up Dent as being portrayed by Billy Dee Williams (which would thus give an actor of color a huge leading role in a superhero movie), and then suddenly in ''Forever'' Dent is portrayed by the very caucasian Jones...
** The security guard whom Batman has to save from Two-Face's acid trap at the beginning. Many viewers absolutely ''loathe'' the guy's dialogue.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The film arguably works better if one embraces movie was exactly what the studio wanted, safe and marketable, and is considered disposable at worst and decent light entertainment at best. It definitely helps to think of it as a loud, larger than life and very colorful action adventure movie for the summer blockbuster set as opposed to a straight adaptation of Batman.
* TheScrappy: TheScrappy
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Opinions vary wildly about the cast of characters and how they were portrayed in this movie, but Creator/TommyLeeJones's Two-Face is consistently hated, due to taking a serious character torn between good and evil and reducing him to a cackling Joker-wannabe. Another point of sourness for the fanbase is how in this incarnation, he does do-over flips of his coin until he gets the decision he wants, which really goes against his character. And let's not really get into the fact that the Burton films, which are theoretically in-continuity with this film, set up Dent as being portrayed by Billy Dee Williams (which would thus give an actor of color a huge leading role in a superhero movie), and then suddenly in ''Forever'' Dent is portrayed by the very caucasian Jones...
** The security guard whom Batman has to save from Two-Face's acid trap at the beginning. Many viewers absolutely ''loathe'' beginning, especially for the guy's dialogue.way he manages to make unreadably silly dialogue sound even ''more'' ridiculous out loud.
3rd Dec '17 10:52:45 AM nombretomado
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** [[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall It just raises too many questions.]]

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** [[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall It just raises too many questions.]]
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