History YMMV / BatmanForever

15th May '16 11:30:57 AM SpaceDrake
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* ContestedSequel: These days, many consider it rather disgraceful, partly because [[FranchiseOriginalSin established trends that led to the next movie and hurt superhero movies overall]]. On the other hand, some people still prefer it over its [[Film/BatmanReturns predecessor]] for giving Batman more screentime & treating him more heroic rather than the borderline sociopath, and also for the film itself at least having a very consistent tone and identity (whereas ''Returns'' often had trouble with the darkness and camp clashing and leaving the film feeling like it didn't know what it wanted to be).
** Val Kilmer as Batman is considered either a [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency travesty of casting]], or the first and so far only time an actor has really gotten and portrayed the modern version of the character (he's Batman all the time, whether in or out of the suit, and ''Bruce Wayne'' is the costume he wears). To Kilmer's credit, [[WordOfGod Bob Kane]] stated that Kilmer's take was his favorite big-screen version of Batman.

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* ContestedSequel: These days, many consider it rather disgraceful, partly because [[FranchiseOriginalSin it established trends that led to the next movie and hurt superhero movies overall]]. On the other hand, some people still prefer it over its [[Film/BatmanReturns predecessor]] for giving Batman more screentime & treating him more heroic like a hero rather than the borderline sociopath, sociopath he can be in some other adaptations, and also for the film itself at least having a very consistent tone and identity (whereas ''Returns'' often had trouble with the darkness and camp clashing and leaving the film feeling like it didn't know what it wanted to be).
** Val Kilmer as Batman is considered either a [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency travesty of casting]], or the first and so far only time an actor has really gotten and portrayed the modern version of the character (he's Batman all the time, whether in or out of the suit, and ''Bruce Wayne'' is the costume he wears). To Kilmer's credit, [[WordOfGod Bob Kane]] stated that Kilmer's take was his favorite big-screen version of Batman.Batman, of the ones Kane saw while he still lived.
12th May '16 9:11:31 AM AGorilla
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*TrailerJokeDecay: Batman's "I'll get drive-thru," snark at the beginning of the film would be pretty funny if not for the fact that every trailer AND McDonald's tie-in commercial made use of the line, making it simply eye-rolling (and an obvious attempt at ProductPlacement) by the time anyone actually saw the film.
27th Apr '16 3:12:03 PM Anddrix
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* BrokenAesop: Batman trying to prevent Robin from ultimately suffering VengeanceFeelsEmpty. [[spoiler:He finally takes it to heart, choosing to honorably send Two-Face to prison instead of just letting him suffer a DisneyVillainDeath. Unfortunately, this version of Two-Face is an unrepentant UngratefulBastard who simply exploits Robin's help to give him the DistressBall, subsequently leading to Batman having no choice but to kill Two-Face anyway. Robin could've done both himself and Gotham a favor by simply letting the scumbag die right then and there.]]
27th Apr '16 3:08:21 PM Peridonyx
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* BrokenAesop: Batman trying to prevent Robin from ultimately suffering VengeanceFeelsEmpty. [[spoiler:He finally takes it to heart, choosing to honorably send Two-Face to prison instead of just letting him suffer a DisneyVillainDeath. Unfortunately, this version of Two-Face is an unrepentant UngratefulBastard who simply exploits Robin's help to give him the DistressBall, subsequently leading to Batman having no choice but to kill Two-Face anyway. Robin could've done both himself and Gotham a favor by simply letting the scumbag die right then and there.]]
27th Apr '16 2:55:31 PM Peridonyx
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** The security guard that Batman has to save from Two-Face's acid trap at the beginning -- many viewers absolutely ''loathe'' the guy's dialogue.

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** The security guard that whom Batman has to save from Two-Face's acid trap at the beginning -- many beginning. Many viewers absolutely ''loathe'' the guy's dialogue.
18th Apr '16 9:02:14 PM TVRulezAgain
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Averted. The first non-Burton directed Batman movie, and also the one where the quality clearly started to improve, and get away from the too serious to be taken seriously tone of the Burton films.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Averted. The first non-Burton directed Batman movie, and also the one where the quality clearly started to improve, and get away from the too serious to be taken seriously tone of the Burton films.decline.
1st Apr '16 3:54:20 PM HarryLovesHermione
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** In his podcast-exclusive commentary track for this film, KevinSmith jokes that Jon Favreau, who had a small role in the film, was taking notes for ''Film/IronMan'' considering Bruce Wayne's underground shuttle-pod from his office to the Cave is shot with a HUD and close-up view of our hero, just like in Favreau's superhero film 13 years later.
1st Apr '16 2:03:23 AM shinykittie
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: The first non-Burton directed Batman movie, and also the one where the quality clearly started to decline.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Averted. The first non-Burton directed Batman movie, and also the one where the quality clearly started to decline.improve, and get away from the too serious to be taken seriously tone of the Burton films.
26th Mar '16 4:17:55 PM Animeking1108
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* TheScrappy: Opinions vary wildly about the cast of characters and how they were portrayed in this movie, but Creator/TommyLeeJones's Two-Face is consistently hated, due to taking a serious character torn between good and evil and reducing him to a cackling Joker-wannabe.

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* TheScrappy: Opinions vary wildly about the cast of characters and how they were portrayed in this movie, but Creator/TommyLeeJones's Two-Face is consistently hated, due to taking a serious character torn between good and evil and reducing him to a cackling Joker-wannabe. Another point of sourness for the fanbase is how in this incarnation, he does do-over flips of his coin until he gets the decision he wants, which really goes against his character.
26th Mar '16 2:39:39 PM Peridonyx
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** The security guard that Batman has to save from Two-Face's acid trap at the beginning -- many viewers absolutely ''loathe'' the guy's dialogue.
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