History YMMV / Bambi

21st Apr '17 8:44:03 AM Psi001
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* HilariousInHindsight: in 2002, Series/SaturdayNightLive TV Funhouse lampooned Disney's infamous direct to video sequels by having a skit about "Bambi 2002". Fast forward to 2006, and Disney would release a direct to video Bambi follow up (albeit a midquel, not a sequel). In a later skit, they acknowledged the midquel along with their Bambi 2002;

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2002, Series/SaturdayNightLive TV Funhouse lampooned Disney's infamous direct to video sequels by having a skit about "Bambi 2002". Fast forward to 2006, and Disney would release a direct to video Bambi follow up (albeit a midquel, not a sequel). In a later skit, they acknowledged the midquel along with their Bambi 2002;


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** The fact Disney made the midquel, [[Music/SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand when Bambi was sixty four]]. [[ContestedSequel Would you still need him]], [[CashCowFranchise would you still feed him]] indeed.
18th Apr '17 8:11:48 PM Psi001
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** Bruce Broughton tries his very best to match the elegance of the first film's soundtrack in the {{Interquel}}. The {{Leitmotif}} that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PSAsYPUuDY throughout Bambi and the Great Prince's relationship is particularly moving]].
18th Apr '17 7:42:43 PM Psi001
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* JerkassWoobie: The Great Prince in the {{Interquel}}. He genuinely wants what is best for his son, unfortunately his aloof, unaffectionate nature and insistence on tradition leads him to be unintentionally rejectful towards Bambi emotionally at first. Being pained by the death of his mate helps matters even less.


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* TheWoobie: Bambi infamously losing his mother as a fawn solidified him as one of Disney's codifying Woobies. The {{Interquel}} only furthers this due to his [[WellDoneSonGuy somewhat contentious upbringing by his father]] afterwards.
18th Apr '17 1:53:46 PM Prinzenick
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* MainstreamObscurity: While everyone knows about the above death, very few have actually watched the movie.
17th Apr '17 9:51:52 AM Psi001
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* ContestedSequel: ''Bambi II'', while rarely considered ''better'' than the original film, tends to be rather divisive with fans. It is at least often regarded as one of ''Disney Toon Studios''' best attempts at a follow-on film.



** Thumper got his own ''merchandise line.''

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** Thumper got his own ''merchandise line.''line''. At one point during the eighties he was even given consideration as a BreakoutCharacter for his own feature film.
15th Apr '17 3:47:56 PM Psi001
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* BrokenBase: The midquel with many fans of the original. Is it another cheap and pointless direct-to-video abomination, or is it one of few Disney sequels that is up to par with the original? Is the plot and character handling more depthful and fill loose ends of the first, or is it derailment of the original's artistic approach in favour of contemporary cliches?
19th Feb '17 7:20:59 AM YetAnotherAutist
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* {{Woolseyism}}: The Norwegian re-dub changes the line Thumper says in the beginning from: "Sure, let's go with that." to "Sure, that would rather fit!" Giving a plenty better reason to use the "Bambi" name.
12th Feb '17 10:57:32 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The Disney adaptation is ''much'' more well known than the original Felix Salten book. It's rather strange that few people know it was based on a book since it mentions in the opening credits that the movie was based on Felix Salten's story... Not only that, it's a serious, gritty book. Most people, though, would assume that it's a pop-up book or something. The poster for the movie was even a picture of the book.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The Disney adaptation Par the course for just about anything adapted by Disney, the film is ''much'' more well known than the original Felix Salten book. It's rather strange that few people know it was based on a book since it mentions in the opening credits that the movie was based on Felix Salten's story...story (then again, most people don't pay much attention to credits in the first place). Not only that, it's a serious, gritty book. Most people, though, would assume that it's a pop-up book or something. The poster for the movie was even a picture of the book.



** The hunter. A bloodthirsty EvilPoacher who hunts for the fun of killing animals, an ordinary sport hunter with no evil intent (less likely, given how it was and is illegal to shoot deer out of season), or just a poor, hungry man desperate to fill the cooking pot?

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** The hunter. A bloodthirsty EvilPoacher who hunts for the fun of killing animals, an [[ObliviouslyEvil ordinary sport hunter with no evil intent intent]] (less likely, given how it was and still is illegal to shoot deer out of season), or just a poor, hungry man desperate to fill the cooking pot?



* AngstWhatAngst: Bambi's mother's death. Bambi and everyone else seems to get over it pretty darn quick, especially since right after Bambi's father tells him of her death, [[MoodWhiplash it instantly cuts to scene with birds singing happily.]] Bambi's mom is never even brought up again.

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** For that matter, is it even the same hunter(s) from one encounter to the next?
* AngstWhatAngst: Bambi's mother's death. Bambi and everyone else seems to get over it pretty darn quick, especially since right after Bambi's father tells him of her death, [[MoodWhiplash it instantly cuts to scene spring with birds singing happily.]] happily]]. Bambi's mom is never even brought up again.again. The midquel tries to avert this, but both Bambi and his father seem to be past the grieving stage by the end of the story, which takes place over about five days.



* AwesomeMusic: A killer combo of Frank Churchill's unforgettable songs and Edward Plumb's mantovani cue filled score results in Bambi having a very memorable soundtrack.

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* AwesomeMusic: A killer combo of Frank Churchill's unforgettable songs and Edward Plumb's mantovani cue filled cue-filled score results in Bambi ''Bambi'' having a very memorable soundtrack.



* BadassDecay: Depends on your opinion. Either the midquel did a pretty good job of doing this to the formerly solemn and dignified Great Prince, or it makes him more badass by boosting his PapaWolf tendencies and having him directly take on a pack of vicious hunting dogs to save his son, all the while voiced by ''Patrick Stewart'' this time round.

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* BadassDecay: Depends on your opinion. Either the midquel did a pretty good job of doing this to the formerly solemn and dignified Great Prince, or it makes him more badass by boosting his PapaWolf tendencies and having him directly take on a pack of vicious hunting dogs to save his son, all the while voiced by ''Patrick Stewart'' ''Creator/PatrickStewart'' this time round.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Thumper got his own ''merchandise line.''
** Same goes for Miss Bunny who also have her own merchandise line in Japan especially at Tokyo Disneyland.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Thumper got his own ''merchandise line.''
** Same goes for his mate, Miss Bunny Bunny, who also have has her own merchandise line [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff in Japan Japan]], especially at Tokyo Disneyland.



-->"Bambi II is going into the Disney Vault. After just 70 days on sale, the glorious Bambi II goes into the Disney Vault for 10 years along with Cinderella II, [[CallBack Bambi 2002]], Sleeping Beauty III: Lil' Sleepy Meets Aladdin, Hunchback VI: Air Dog Quasi, Mulan VIII: The Prozoids Strike Back, Jungle Book 3.0: Jungle Blog, and [[BreadEggsSquick 101 Felations]]."
* HoYay: Between Bambi and Flower when they were little. They even have a MeetCute, for god's sake, as explained by Blog/UnshavedMouse [[http://unshavedmouse.com/2012/08/29/disney-reviews-by-the-unshaved-mouse-5-bambi/ here]]. Flower even named his child after Bambi, the guy he, as far as we know, only shared two scenes with.

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-->"Bambi II is going into the Disney Vault. After just 70 days on sale, the glorious Bambi II goes into the Disney Vault for 10 years along with Cinderella II, [[CallBack Bambi 2002]], Sleeping Beauty III: Lil' Sleepy Meets Aladdin, Hunchback VI: Air Dog Quasi, Mulan VIII: The Prozoids Strike Back, Jungle Book 3.0: Jungle Blog, and [[BreadEggsSquick [[BreadEggsMilkSquick 101 Felations]]."
* HoYay: Between Bambi and Flower when they were little. They even have a MeetCute, for god's God's sake, as explained by Blog/UnshavedMouse [[http://unshavedmouse.com/2012/08/29/disney-reviews-by-the-unshaved-mouse-5-bambi/ here]]. Flower even named his child after Bambi, the guy he, as far as we know, only shared two scenes with.with (in the first film, at least).



* {{Moe}}: Bambi (and by extension Faline, the two fawns they have as adults, and even Ronno to some degree) is likely the cutest white-tailed deer fawn you'll ever see. There's a reason Creator/OsamuTezuka used him as the basis for the distinctive large eye style of anime.



* SoOkayItsAverage: While ''Bambi II'' is considered among the better Disney sequels, few consider it to be as good as the original movie and it is usually seen as average at best. The main complaints stem from that it either adds [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too little new to the Bambi universe]], or the changes it did make (I.e. Playing up contemporary humor, humanizing the characters personalities and using pop songs) [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks were not for the better.]]

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* SoOkayItsAverage: While ''Bambi II'' is considered among the better Disney sequels, few consider it to be as good as the original movie and it is usually seen as average at best. The main complaints stem from that it either adds [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too little new to the Bambi universe]], or the changes it did make (I.(i.e. Playing up contemporary humor, humanizing the characters personalities and using pop songs) [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks were not for the better.]]



--->'''Ronno''': Bambi? Isn't that a girl's name?

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--->'''Ronno''': --->'''Ronno:''' Bambi? Isn't that a girl's name?



* {{Wangst}}: Bambi has this moment in ''Bambi II'' when he discovers his father was planning to send him off to live with another doe. And this is after they actually began to develop a bond with each other! And why? All because it's [[BecauseDestinySaysSo ''what a prince would do.'']] It actually gets Bambi so upset that he tells his dad:
--> '''Bambi:''' I wish Mother was here [[CallingTheOldManOut instead]] [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome of]] [[IWishedYouWereDead YOU!]]


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* {{Wangst}}: Bambi has this moment in ''Bambi II'' when he discovers his father was planning to send him off to live with another doe. And this is after they actually began to develop a bond with each other! And why? All because it's "[[BecauseDestinySaysSo what a prince would do]]." It actually gets Bambi so upset that he tells his dad:
-->'''Bambi:''' I wish Mother was here [[CallingTheOldManOut instead]] [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome of]] [[IWishedYouWereDead YOU!]]
3rd Feb '17 11:07:51 PM creader
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* [[{{Sequelitis}} Midquelitis]] / SoOkayItsAverage: While ''Bambi II'' is considered among the better Disney sequels, few consider it to be as good as the original movie and it is usually seen as average at best. The main complaints stem from that it either adds [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too little new to the Bambi universe]], or the changes it did make (I.e. Playing up contemporary humor, humanizing the characters personalities and using pop songs) [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks were not for the better.]]

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* [[{{Sequelitis}} Midquelitis]] / PeripheryDemographic: It's well documented that his film was popular with, of all people, men shipping out to fight in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Pictures of the characters were common as the nose art of planes and tanks. A few munition factories even stamped pictures of Thumper to blockbuster bombs.
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SoOkayItsAverage: While ''Bambi II'' is considered among the better Disney sequels, few consider it to be as good as the original movie and it is usually seen as average at best. The main complaints stem from that it either adds [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too little new to the Bambi universe]], or the changes it did make (I.e. Playing up contemporary humor, humanizing the characters personalities and using pop songs) [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks were not for the better.]]
10th Jan '17 5:42:37 AM Prinzenick
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* AdaptationDisplacement: It's rather strange that few people know it was based on a book since it mentions in the opening credits that the movie was based on Felix Salten's story... Not only that, it's a serious, gritty book. Most people, though, would assume that it's a pop-up book or something. The poster for the movie was a picture of the book.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The Disney adaptation is ''much'' more well known than the original Felix Salten book. It's rather strange that few people know it was based on a book since it mentions in the opening credits that the movie was based on Felix Salten's story... Not only that, it's a serious, gritty book. Most people, though, would assume that it's a pop-up book or something. The poster for the movie was even a picture of the book.
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