History YMMV / Bakuman

9th Jul '16 3:54:01 PM Anddrix
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26th Jan '16 9:26:22 AM henry42
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* BaseBreaker: Iwase. How sympathetic is she, and how does this compare to how she is intended to be seen?

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Iwase. How sympathetic is she, and how does this compare to how she is intended to be seen?
20th Mar '15 10:33:18 PM Adept
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** Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous and unbelievable, and [[SatelliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]

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** Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT WebVideo/RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous and unbelievable, and [[SatelliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]
16th Oct '14 8:58:30 AM SuperLlama
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* Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous, and [[SatelliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]

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* ** Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous, ridiculous and unbelievable, and [[SatelliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]
16th Oct '14 8:57:48 AM SuperLlama
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* Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous, and [[SatteliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]

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* Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous, and [[SatteliteLoveInterest [[SatelliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]
16th Oct '14 8:56:57 AM SuperLlama
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* Azuki has her fair share of people (including RolloT of ''Weekly Manga Recap'') who find her relationship with Mashiro to be completely ridiculous, and [[SatteliteLoveInterest that she isn't defined as a character beyond that.]]
9th Oct '14 11:39:35 AM Johnny2071
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** Same goes for Kayoko Mashiro, for not only being a nagging mother, but for being very strict and hardly supportive of her son's dream to become a manga artist (especially considering the circumstances that inspire him to do so).
5th Jun '14 3:42:21 AM Discontent
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* ValuesDissonance: ''"Men have dreams that women will never be able to understand!"'' See UnfortunateImplications above.

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* ValuesDissonance: ''"Men have dreams that women will never be able to understand!"'' See UnfortunateImplications above.understand!"''
7th Feb '14 3:43:54 AM Discontent
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One can argue that Nakai never quite TookALevelInJerkass, and was mainly repressing the less admirable aspects of his personality, as he never admits how much Fukuda's reminding him that his career is going nowhere upsets him to his face. Over time, he does so less often, such as when he loses his temper at an assistant when Hideout Door is doing poorly.

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One can argue that Nakai never quite TookALevelInJerkass, and was mainly repressing the less admirable aspects of his personality, as he never admits how much Fukuda's reminding him that his career is going nowhere upsets him to his face. Over time, he does so less often, such as when he loses his temper at an assistant when Hideout Door is doing poorly.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: It's OK to lie to and manipulate a lonely, and quite possible depressed man, if you need him to write more manga. {{Played for laughs}} with Kazuya Hiramaru and his editor.

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It's OK to lie to and manipulate a lonely, and quite possible depressed man, if you need him to write more manga. {{Played for laughs}} with Kazuya Hiramaru and his editor.



* NightmareFuel: [[http://www.batoto.net/read/_/52342/bakuman_ch156_by_muda-scantrad/17 Poor Mashiro...]]

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[[http://www.batoto.net/read/_/52342/bakuman_ch156_by_muda-scantrad/17 Poor Mashiro...]]



* ShipToShipCombat Quite a few fans have been clamoring for an Aoki/Shujin ship, despite his OfficialCouple status with Kaya [[spoiler:and his powerful confession of love to her coupled with a marriage proposal which she accepts.]]

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Quite a few fans have been clamoring for an Aoki/Shujin ship, despite his OfficialCouple status with Kaya [[spoiler:and his powerful confession of love to her coupled with a marriage proposal which she accepts.]]



* StrawmanHasAPoint: An editorial decision to put Mashiro's manga on hiatus because he's severely overworking himself is shown in a completely negative light even though he had been hospitalized for said overworking with the doctor saying his condition could easily get worse. Even though there actually was some overreaction on the chief editor's part -- such as extending the hiatus after the hospitalization was over -- it still doesn't change the fact that Masahiro's self-proclaimed supporters also encouraged him to give it his all during his hospitalization, which the doctor had already declared unhealthy.

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An editorial decision to put Mashiro's manga on hiatus because he's severely overworking himself is shown in a completely negative light even though he had been hospitalized for said overworking with the doctor saying his condition could easily get worse. Even though there actually was some overreaction on the chief editor's part -- such as extending the hiatus after the hospitalization was over -- it still doesn't change the fact that Masahiro's self-proclaimed supporters also encouraged him to give it his all during his hospitalization, which the doctor had already declared unhealthy.



* UnfortunateImplications: Chapter 38 can easily be read as a glorification of stalking and emotional blackmail in order to get what you want.
** Though this was reversed in a later chapter, when Nakai got a bit too confident and tried to use emotional blackmail to play the two women he was obsessed with against each other. This resulted in [[spoiler:Aoki ''vehemently'' rejecting him, and it later turned out that Kato wasn't interested either.]]
*** Fukuda notes that he "looks like a stalker" at one point in Chapter 38, but eventually starts to sympathize with him and becomes angry with Aoki for ignoring him despite how far he's going.
** Takagi once talked about how girls have to appear [[ObfuscatingStupidity dumb]] to be cute.
*** Around the same time, he also discusses voice acting as being an acceptable female ambition, and girls being meant to get married and [[ProperLady be graceful and polite]]. Within the same chapter, Moritaka's father tells his mother that "men have dreams that women will never be able to understand." The last episode of the anime, however, has Moritaka's mother talking with her husband, and responding to his previous statement by saying that women ''also'' have dreams, so it could only be Moritaka's father's perspective.
15th Aug '13 9:55:55 AM Viira
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** Miura would like you to know you need more gags.[[hottip:*: Miura has a strong preference for gag manga, whereas the main characters are best at serious manga or "serious humor"]]

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** Miura would like you to know you need more gags.[[hottip:*: [[labelnote:Explanation]] Miura has a strong preference for gag manga, whereas the main characters are best at serious manga or "serious humor"]]humor"[[/labelnote]]
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