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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described "[[CardCarryingVillain dangerous bitch]]", she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt--Paul just wasn’t interested--before mocking Bob for his morals.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described "[[CardCarryingVillain dangerous bitch]]", she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt--Paul just wasn’t interested--before mocking Bob for his morals.morals.
* MagnificentBastard: [[AntiHero Bob Saetta]] is a ruthless, high-ranking Brooklyn mobster who turns against the mob when he finds out the head of his family, Bob's [[CainAndAbel own brother]], Paul "The Wall" Saetta, is also a [[WouldHurtAChild murderous pedophile]]. [[PapaWolf Wanting to protect his son]] and wife from Paul, and also to protect his family's name, Bob goes on an effective [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge single-handed crusade]] against the mob family. Using both brutal violence as well as clever stratagems: at one point tricking one of Paul's top henchmen and others into getting killed by guard dogs, Bob takes down most if not all of the family. In the end, Bob kills his racist mother after she reveals she had helped Paul; his wife when she boasts about filming Paul's videos and was even willing to have Paul rape her own son; and, after a vicious final fight, Paul himself before finally rescuing his son.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described "[[CardCarryingVillain dangerous bitch]]", she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt--Paul just wasn’t interested--before mocking Bob for his morals.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is nothing honorable or glamorous about the Mafia; those associated with it are thugs at best, [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] at worst.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described "[[CardCarryingVillain dangerous bitch]]", she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt--Paul just wasn’t interested--before mocking Bob for his morals.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is nothing honorable or glamorous about the Mafia; those associated with it are thugs at best, [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] at worst.
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* CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother]] and has Standards such as never harm his family members. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother]] and has Standards such as never harm his family members.mother]]. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:
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* CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother]]. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother]].mother]] and has Standards such as never harm his family members. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described "dangerous bitch," she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul just wasn’t interested) before mocking Bob for his morals.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described "dangerous bitch," "[[CardCarryingVillain dangerous bitch]]", she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul attempt--Paul just wasn’t interested) before interested--before mocking Bob for his morals.

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* CompleteMonster:
** [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is the hulking boss of the Saetta crime family and "The Man Who Owns Brooklyn." Paul's secret is he's a [[WouldHurtAChild serial paedophile and murderer]] in addition to his Mafia nastiness. When his brother Bob discovers a videotape of Paul raping and murdering a little boy, it [[EvenEvilHasStandards makes him disgusted enough]] to turn on Paul. In response, Paul [[CopKiller kills multiple police officers]] to [[IHaveYourWife kidnap Bob's family with the implication he will murder Bob's young son Michael if Bob crosses him]]. He also calls Bob a coward for turning against him for being a child rapist. While he has one throwaway line suggesting he loves his mother, there is no onscreen evidence to back this up.

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CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is the hulking boss of the Saetta crime family and "The Man Who Owns Brooklyn." Paul's secret is he's is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial paedophile pedophile and murderer]] in addition to his Mafia nastiness. When his brother Bob discovers a videotape of Paul raping and murdering a little boy, it [[EvenEvilHasStandards makes him disgusted enough]] to turn on Paul. In response, Paul [[CopKiller kills multiple police officers]] to [[IHaveYourWife kidnap Bob's family with the implication murderer]], he will murder Bob's young son Michael if Bob crosses him]]. He also calls Bob a coward for turning against him for being a child rapist. While he has one throwaway line suggesting he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother, there is mother]]. The following duo, however, have no onscreen evidence to back this up.such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother]]. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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[[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is, among other things, is the hulking boss of the Saetta crime family and "The Man Who Owns Brooklyn." Paul's secret is he's a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile paedophile and murderer]], murderer]] in addition to his Mafia nastiness. When his brother Bob discovers a videotape of Paul raping and murdering a little boy, it [[EvenEvilHasStandards makes him disgusted enough]] to turn on Paul. In response, Paul [[CopKiller kills multiple police officers]] to [[IHaveYourWife kidnap Bob's family with the implication he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas will murder Bob's young son Michael if Bob crosses him]]. He also calls Bob a coward for turning against him for being a child rapist. While he has one throwaway line suggesting he loves his mother]]. The following duo, however, have mother, there is no such redeeming qualities:onscreen evidence to back this up.

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** [[TortureTechnician Churchill]], Paul's "[[TheDragon pet psychopath]]", is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.

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** [[TortureTechnician Churchill]], Paul's "[[TheDragon pet psychopath]]", is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] feeling towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.

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** Churchill, Paul's "[[TheDragon pet psychopath]]," is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.

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** Churchill, [[TortureTechnician Churchill]], Paul's "[[TheDragon pet psychopath]]," psychopath]]", is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.

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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his [[CainAndAbel brother]], [[AntiHero Bob]], whom he has just fought, to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though Brooklyn crime boss [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as is, among other things, a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], and CopKiller, he apparently [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his [[CainAndAbel brother]], [[AntiHero Bob]], whom he has just fought, to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this.mother]]. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:
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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described “dangerous bitch,” she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul just wasn’t interested) before mocking Bob for his morals.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described “dangerous bitch,” "dangerous bitch," she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul just wasn’t interested) before mocking Bob for his morals.
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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his [[CainAndAbel brother]], [[AntiHero Bob]], to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his [[CainAndAbel brother]], [[AntiHero Bob]], whom he has just fought, to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his brother [[AntiHero Bob]] to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]], and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his brother [[CainAndAbel brother]], [[AntiHero Bob]] Bob]], to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:
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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]] and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his brother [[AntiHero Bob]] to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is a vicious Brooklyn crime boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]] murderer]], and CopKiller, his [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his brother [[AntiHero Bob]] to [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:

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* CompleteMonster:
** [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is the hulking boss of the Saetta crime family and "The Man Who Owns Brooklyn." Paul's secret is he's a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]] in addition to his Mafia nastiness. When his brother Bob discovers a videotape of Paul raping and murdering a little boy, it [[EvenEvilHasStandards makes him disgusted enough]] to turn on Paul. In response, Paul [[CopKiller kills multiple police officers]] to [[IHaveYourWife kidnap Bob's family with the implication he will murder Bob's young son Michael if Bob crosses him]].
** Churchill, Paul's [[TheDragon "pet psychopath,"]] is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.

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CompleteMonster: Even though [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is the hulking boss of the Saetta a vicious Brooklyn crime family and "The Man Who Owns Brooklyn." Paul's secret is he's boss, as well as a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]] in addition to and CopKiller, his Mafia nastiness. When [[spoiler:dying words]] are asking his brother Bob discovers a videotape of Paul raping and murdering a little boy, it [[EvenEvilHasStandards makes him disgusted enough]] [[AntiHero Bob]] to turn on Paul. In response, Paul [[CopKiller kills multiple police officers]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes look after their mother]]; he seems to [[IHaveYourWife kidnap Bob's family with the implication he will murder Bob's young son Michael if Bob crosses him]].
be sincere about this. The following duo, however, have no such redeeming qualities:
** Churchill, Paul's [[TheDragon "pet psychopath,"]] "[[TheDragon pet psychopath]]," is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is nothing honorable or glamorous about the Mafia; those associated with it are thugs at best, [[CompleteMonsters complete monsters]] at worst.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is nothing honorable or glamorous about the Mafia; those associated with it are thugs at best, [[CompleteMonsters [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] at worst.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described “dangerous bitch,” she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul just wasn’t interested) before mocking Bob for his morals.

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** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described “dangerous bitch,” she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul just wasn’t interested) before mocking Bob for his morals.morals.

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is nothing honorable or glamorous about the Mafia; those associated with it are thugs at best, [[CompleteMonsters complete monsters]] at worst.
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*Complete Monster:
** [[BigBad Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] is the hulking boss of the Saetta crime family and "The Man Who Owns Brooklyn." Paul's secret is he's a [[WouldHurtAChild serial pedophile and murderer]] in addition to his Mafia nastiness. When his brother Bob discovers a videotape of Paul raping and murdering a little boy, it [[EvenEvilHasStandards makes him disgusted enough]] to turn on Paul. In response, Paul [[CopKiller kills multiple police officers]] to [[IHaveYourWife kidnap Bob's family with the implication he will murder Bob's young son Michael if Bob crosses him]].
** Churchill, Paul's [[TheDragon "pet psychopath,"]] is a dapper and eloquent gentleman who nevertheless seems to [[TheSociopath have no feeling]] towards anyone. When he tracks Bob to an old store Bob used to frequent, he tortures the elderly owner with a straight razor. After carving him to bits, Churchill has the place set on fire, informing the old man he can carry his bedridden wife out to save her after Churchill has left him in no shape to even walk. Churchill later captures Bob's best friend Vinnie and tortures him, only cutting it short with a bullet to the head when he realizes Vinnie will never betray Bob. It is also revealed Churchill is the one who set a deal with Russian mobsters to always provide Paul with immigrant boys.
** Penny Saetta, Bob's wife, is revealed in the final issue to match her brother-in-law for evil when she reveals to Bob [[WhamLine she participated in and did the filming for Paul's activities]]. Having only married Bob to be a gangster's wife and a self-described “dangerous bitch,” she happily joined in with Paul on his {{snuff film}}s. When Bob begs her to tell him she didn't involve their son, Penny comments she absolutely made the attempt (Paul just wasn’t interested) before mocking Bob for his morals.

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