History YMMV / BRAVELYDEFAULT

25th Oct '17 7:54:02 AM rufusluciusivan
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* GoddamnedBoss: Swordmaster Kamiizumi. He spends 95% of his turns performing one of three possible moves that will cause him to perform a powerful counterattack when hit (as in, powerful enough that unless you are obscenely overleveled, the second and third ones ''will'' KO you, and you'll need buffs and/or debuffs to even survive the first). One of them counters physical attacks, while another counters magical attacks. Which will he decide to use on any given turn? [[LuckBasedMission Who knows.]] And it halves the damage he took from that attack to boot. No, you can't just draw his counter with a tanky character and then attack him with other characters afterward; he will simply counter the subsequent attacks as well. You could use attack items, but those can be caught by his third counter, which will counter any attack from a particular character. Sometimes, he will instead decide to Brave and do several regular physical attacks in a row, which is your chance to attack him while his BP is negative, but he rarely does that. So pretty much, no matter what you try to use against him (''especially'' the first time, where you don't have nearly as many jobs or skills to take advantage of), it will take forever and a year to actually beat him.
** Though he can't counter Special Moves, so [[EasyLevelTrick you can take advantage of that]] by equipping everyone with a katana, whose specials are triggered by Defaulting, and then spending the battle doing absolutely nothing but Defaulting and using katana specials (or attacking him if he's at negative BP). [[CrazyEnoughToWork It's silly and drawn-out, but it works.]]

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Swordmaster Kamiizumi. He spends 95% of his turns performing one of three possible moves that will cause him to perform a powerful counterattack when hit (as in, powerful enough that unless you are obscenely overleveled, the second and third ones ''will'' KO you, and you'll need buffs and/or debuffs to even survive the first). One of them counters physical attacks, while another counters magical attacks. Which will he decide to use on any given turn? [[LuckBasedMission Who knows.]] And it halves the damage he took from that attack to boot. No, you can't just draw his counter with a tanky character and then attack him with other characters afterward; he will simply counter the subsequent attacks as well. You could use attack items, but those can be caught by his third counter, which will counter any attack from a particular character. Sometimes, he will instead decide to Brave and do several regular physical attacks in a row, which is your chance to attack him while his BP is negative, but he rarely does that. So pretty much, no matter what you try to use against him (''especially'' the first time, where you don't have nearly as many jobs or skills to take advantage of), it will take forever and a year to actually beat him.
** *** Though he can't counter Special Moves, so [[EasyLevelTrick you can take advantage of that]] by equipping everyone with a katana, whose specials are triggered by Defaulting, and then spending the battle doing absolutely nothing but Defaulting and using katana specials (or attacking him if he's at negative BP). [[CrazyEnoughToWork It's silly and drawn-out, but it works.]]]]
** Ninja Konoe Kikyo. She loves to use Utsusemi to evade the next attack and immediately counter-attack. She also loves to spam Shippûjinrai to attack first, generally after a Default, and will one-shot most of the party members that way.
24th Oct '17 1:36:23 AM rufusluciusivan
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** Braev Lee really was a [[KnightTemplar self righteous, corrupt tyrant]]. Even if he had good reasons to overthrow the Orthodoxy, he was still trying to expand his sphere of influence across the world through hostile means. The people he put in charge of his campaign for world conquest were a group of violent, unstable and immoral individuals who given little oversight in their actions. More than a few of them were children and teenagers, one of whom was an insane, dying child who got sicker whenever she overexerts herself. Furthermore, Edea's complete lack of knowledge about his uprising and the Orthodoxy implies that he may have been trying to [[WrittenByTheWinners rewrite history in his favor]], much like how the Orthodoxy did.

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** Braev Lee really was a [[KnightTemplar self righteous, corrupt tyrant]]. Even if he had good reasons to overthrow the Orthodoxy, he was still trying to expand his sphere of influence across the world through hostile means. The people he put in charge of his campaign for world conquest were (with a few exceptions) a group of violent, unstable and immoral individuals who were given little oversight in their actions. More than a few of them were children and teenagers, one of whom was an insane, dying child who got sicker whenever she overexerts herself. Furthermore, Edea's complete lack of knowledge about his uprising and the Orthodoxy implies that he may have been trying to [[WrittenByTheWinners rewrite history in his favor]], much like how the Orthodoxy did.
24th Oct '17 1:33:45 AM rufusluciusivan
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** ''Any'' serious, dramatic or emotionally heavy scene can be ruined if one or several of the heroes is/are currently wearing one of the silly-looking asterisks, such as the Performer asterisk.
3rd Oct '17 1:41:53 AM Nina-chan
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* TheScrappy: Among all the Asterisk holders, very few people actually like [[SatelliteCharacter Victor]] and [[CuteAndPsycho Victoria]]. In fact, many people who played the game ''cheered'' at [[spoiler:their deaths]].

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* TheScrappy: Among all the Asterisk holders, very few people actually like [[SatelliteCharacter Victor]] and [[CuteAndPsycho [[AxCrazy Victoria]]. In fact, many people who played the game ''cheered'' at [[spoiler:their deaths]]. [[spoiler:[[DeathSeeker It's what Victoria would've wanted anyway]]]].
3rd Oct '17 1:39:04 AM Nina-chan
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* TheScrappy: Among all the Asterisk holders, very few people actually like [[SatelliteCharacter Victor]] and [[CuteAndPsycho Victoria]]. In fact, many people who played the game ''cheered'' at [[spoiler:their deaths]].
12th Jun '17 5:50:17 PM Elyana
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* AssPull: [[spoiler: [[GreaterScopeVillain Ourouboros']] entire existence is a big one. Over the entire game, nothing hints at his existence and virtually everything implies that Airy is the BigBad. Then, either before (true ending) or after (normal ending), Airy suddenly reveals she's a higher power who receives no backstory or explanation for his existence. Ourouboros basically exists just to give a proper TrueFinalBoss.]]

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* AssPull: [[spoiler: [[GreaterScopeVillain Ourouboros']] entire existence is a big one. Over the entire game, nothing hints at his existence and virtually everything implies that Airy is the BigBad. Then, either before (true ending) or after (normal ending), Airy suddenly reveals she's actually serving a higher power who receives no backstory or explanation for his existence. Ourouboros basically exists just to give a proper TrueFinalBoss.]]
31st May '17 9:55:31 AM MissMokushiroku
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** [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Airy]], fittingly titled "[[BigBad the Evil One]]", is the Piercer of Boundaries and [[TheDragon chief servant]] to the evil god Ouroboros. [[BitchInSheepsClothing Posing as a helpful fairy ally]] to the Warriors of Light in their mission to reactivate Luxendarc's corrupted crystals, Airy is in truth behind the opening of the Great Chasm and the wide swath of destruction it caused throughout Luxendarc, traveling from world to world and [[ManipulativeBitch manipulating the heroes]] into purifying the elemental crystals and thus linking those worlds to Ouroboros. Airy takes sadistic delight in manipulating the heroes like puppets and butchers them after she is done with them, having repeated the process with tens of thousands of worlds over a course of millions of years. Once she's ousted as Ouroboros's servant, Airy, in the false ending, quickly slaughters the party while taunting them about how she's manipulated them. Forced to rest in the Dark Aurora after being cheated of purifying the last crystal, Airy, once confronted by the revived heroes, decides to torture the warriors of light for five thousand years to bide her time, and pretends to have been possessed purely so she can shatter an already despondent Agnes's will further by revealing she is exactly the remorseless demon she appears to be. A deceitful monster under her seemingly innocent, childish exterior, Airy's singular wish was to allow her master access to the Celestial Realm in order to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all reality]].]]
** [[spoiler:[[GreaterScopeVillain Ouroboros]] himself, the [[GodOfEvil God of Destruction]], plots to wreak havoc on the Celestial Realm, and is responsible for every catastrophic event in the game's plot. [[HiddenVillain Unseen until the game's true ending]], Ouroboros pulls the strings behind his servant Airy and oversees her link the tens of thousands of worlds that comprise reality in a bid to break the boundaries between them, utterly destroy all of them, and bring chaos to the Celestial Realm to [[InTheirOwnImage recreate reality in his own twisted image]]. Ouroboros [[YouHaveFailedMe devours his pleading servant]] once [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he finally tires of her]], dismissively compares her to cattle, and, in the final battle, [[PlanetEater obliterates world after world]] for the sheer purpose of breaking the heroes' spirits, nothing less than utterly gleeful once they beg him to stop. Ouroboros, motivated solely by boredom and a lust for chaos, strife, hatred, and suffering--things he considers exciting--goes down as the greatest evil in the story.]]

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** [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Airy]], Airy]]]], fittingly titled "[[BigBad the Evil One]]", is the Piercer of Boundaries and [[TheDragon chief servant]] to the evil god Ouroboros. [[BitchInSheepsClothing [[spoiler:[[BitchInSheepsClothing Posing as a helpful fairy ally]] to the Warriors of Light in their mission to reactivate Luxendarc's corrupted crystals, Airy is in truth behind the opening of the Great Chasm and the wide swath of destruction it caused throughout Luxendarc, traveling from world to world and [[ManipulativeBitch manipulating the heroes]] into purifying the elemental crystals and thus linking those worlds to Ouroboros. Airy Ouroboros.]] [[spoiler:Airy]] takes sadistic delight in manipulating the heroes like puppets and butchers them after she is done with them, having repeated the process with tens of thousands of worlds over a course of millions of years. Once she's ousted as Ouroboros's servant, Airy, [[spoiler:Airy]], in the false ending, quickly slaughters the party while taunting them about how she's manipulated them. Forced [[spoiler:Forced to rest in the Dark Aurora after being cheated of purifying the last crystal, Airy, Airy]], once confronted by the revived heroes, decides to torture the warriors of light for five thousand years to bide her time, and pretends to have been possessed purely so she can shatter an already despondent Agnes's will further by revealing she is exactly the remorseless demon she appears to be. A deceitful monster under her seemingly innocent, childish exterior, Airy's [[spoiler:Airy]]'s singular wish was to allow her master access to the Celestial Realm in order to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all reality]].]]
reality]].
** [[spoiler:[[GreaterScopeVillain [[GreaterScopeVillain Ouroboros]] himself, the [[GodOfEvil God of Destruction]], plots to wreak havoc on the Celestial Realm, and is responsible for every catastrophic event in the game's plot. [[HiddenVillain Unseen until the game's true ending]], Ouroboros pulls the strings behind his servant Airy [[spoiler:Airy]] and oversees her link the tens of thousands of worlds that comprise reality in a bid to break the boundaries between them, utterly destroy all of them, and bring chaos to the Celestial Realm to [[InTheirOwnImage recreate reality in his own twisted image]]. Ouroboros [[YouHaveFailedMe devours his pleading servant]] once [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he finally tires of her]], dismissively compares her to cattle, and, in the final battle, [[PlanetEater obliterates world after world]] for the sheer purpose of breaking the heroes' spirits, nothing less than utterly gleeful once they beg him to stop. Ouroboros, motivated solely by boredom and a lust for chaos, strife, hatred, and suffering--things he considers exciting--goes down as the greatest evil in the story.]]story.
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30th May '17 11:38:35 PM Hobgoblin
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* EvilIsSexy: Holly Whyte. [[spoiler: Airy]].

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* EvilIsSexy: Holly Whyte. Whyte, Mephilia Venus, and [[spoiler: Airy]].Airy's final form]] stand out most prominently.
30th May '17 11:37:40 PM Hobgoblin
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** [[TheHeavy Airy]], fittingly titled "[[BigBad the Evil One]]", is the Piercer of Boundaries and [[TheDragon chief servant]] to the evil god Ouroboros. [[BitchInSheepsClothing Posing as a helpful fairy ally]] to the Warriors of Light in their mission to reactivate Luxendarc's corrupted crystals, Airy is in truth behind the opening of the Great Chasm and the wide swath of destruction it caused throughout Luxendarc, traveling from world to world and [[ManipulativeBitch manipulating the heroes]] into purifying the elemental crystals and thus linking those worlds to Ouroboros. Airy takes sadistic delight in manipulating the heroes like puppets and butchers them after she is done with them, having repeated the process with tens of thousands of worlds over a course of millions of years. Once she's ousted as Ouroboros's servant, Airy, in the false ending, quickly slaughters the party while taunting them about how she's manipulated them. Forced to rest in the Dark Aurora after being cheated of purifying the last crystal, Airy, once confronted by the revived heroes, decides to torture the warriors of light for five thousand years to bide her time, and pretends to have been possessed purely so she can shatter an already despondent Agnes's will further by revealing she is exactly the remorseless demon she appears to be. A deceitful monster under her seemingly innocent, childish exterior, Airy's singular wish was to allow her master access to the Celestial Realm in order to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all reality]].
** [[GreaterScopeVillain Ouroboros]] himself, the [[GodOfEvil God of Destruction]], plots to wreak havoc on the Celestial Realm, and is responsible for every catastrophic event in the game's plot. [[HiddenVillain Unseen until the game's true ending]], Ouroboros pulls the strings behind his servant Airy and oversees her link the tens of thousands of worlds that comprise reality in a bid to break the boundaries between them, utterly destroy all of them, and bring chaos to the Celestial Realm to [[InTheirOwnImage recreate reality in his own twisted image]]. Ouroboros [[YouHaveFailedMe devours his pleading servant]] once [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he finally tires of her]], dismissively compares her to cattle, and, in the final battle, [[PlanetEater obliterates world after world]] for the sheer purpose of breaking the heroes' spirits, nothing less than utterly gleeful once they beg him to stop. Ouroboros, motivated solely by boredom and a lust for chaos, strife, hatred, and suffering--things he considers exciting--goes down as the greatest evil in the story.
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** [[TheHeavy [[spoiler:[[TheHeavy Airy]], fittingly titled "[[BigBad the Evil One]]", is the Piercer of Boundaries and [[TheDragon chief servant]] to the evil god Ouroboros. [[BitchInSheepsClothing Posing as a helpful fairy ally]] to the Warriors of Light in their mission to reactivate Luxendarc's corrupted crystals, Airy is in truth behind the opening of the Great Chasm and the wide swath of destruction it caused throughout Luxendarc, traveling from world to world and [[ManipulativeBitch manipulating the heroes]] into purifying the elemental crystals and thus linking those worlds to Ouroboros. Airy takes sadistic delight in manipulating the heroes like puppets and butchers them after she is done with them, having repeated the process with tens of thousands of worlds over a course of millions of years. Once she's ousted as Ouroboros's servant, Airy, in the false ending, quickly slaughters the party while taunting them about how she's manipulated them. Forced to rest in the Dark Aurora after being cheated of purifying the last crystal, Airy, once confronted by the revived heroes, decides to torture the warriors of light for five thousand years to bide her time, and pretends to have been possessed purely so she can shatter an already despondent Agnes's will further by revealing she is exactly the remorseless demon she appears to be. A deceitful monster under her seemingly innocent, childish exterior, Airy's singular wish was to allow her master access to the Celestial Realm in order to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all reality]].
reality]].]]
** [[GreaterScopeVillain [[spoiler:[[GreaterScopeVillain Ouroboros]] himself, the [[GodOfEvil God of Destruction]], plots to wreak havoc on the Celestial Realm, and is responsible for every catastrophic event in the game's plot. [[HiddenVillain Unseen until the game's true ending]], Ouroboros pulls the strings behind his servant Airy and oversees her link the tens of thousands of worlds that comprise reality in a bid to break the boundaries between them, utterly destroy all of them, and bring chaos to the Celestial Realm to [[InTheirOwnImage recreate reality in his own twisted image]]. Ouroboros [[YouHaveFailedMe devours his pleading servant]] once [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he finally tires of her]], dismissively compares her to cattle, and, in the final battle, [[PlanetEater obliterates world after world]] for the sheer purpose of breaking the heroes' spirits, nothing less than utterly gleeful once they beg him to stop. Ouroboros, motivated solely by boredom and a lust for chaos, strife, hatred, and suffering--things he considers exciting--goes down as the greatest evil in the story.
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story.]]
3rd May '17 12:29:42 AM AceOfScarabs
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** [[{{Plaguemaster}} Dr. Qada]], the Salve-Maker of Eternia's Black Blades, is the Duchy's resident MadScientist and an [[FatBastard obese]] [[AxCrazy psychopath]] who stands leagues over his more sympathetic compatriots. An utter [[TheSociopath sociopath]] willing to sacrifice leagues of Eternia's own men against the order of his superior [[NobleDemon Kamiizumi]] in the [[ForScience name of research]], Qada's experiments with the horrific [[DeadlyGas Toxic Mist]]--tales of which are relayed through the ghosts of his victims--killed thousands of men--including some of Eternia's own swordbearers--and ruined parts of the land itself, with Qada studying the effects of his work on the infected corpses. Qada, as TheMedic, also helped to heal both sides of Luxendarc's conflict, purely so he could use their healthy bodies as test subjects for further research. Qada's ambition extends to planning to wipe out the Council of Six with his equally-treacherous compatriots Fiore [=DeRosa=] and Erutus Profiteur to take over Eternia themselves, with Qada planning to unleash a fatal plague through Luxendarc and being completely unsure as to whether he wants to be remembered as a gloried hero for providing an antidote or a vile, disease-spreading madman. The vilest of the Eternian forces in every world he's seen in, Qada's own superior Kamiizumi [[EvenEvilHasStandards is reviled by him]] and kills Qada himself in one of the parallel worlds as a testament to Qada's endless, amoral thirst for knowledge, no matter the cost.

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** [[{{Plaguemaster}} Dr. Qada]], the Salve-Maker of Eternia's Black Blades, is the Duchy's resident MadScientist and an [[FatBastard obese]] [[AxCrazy psychopath]] who stands leagues over his more sympathetic compatriots. An utter [[TheSociopath sociopath]] willing to sacrifice leagues of Eternia's own men against the order of his superior [[NobleDemon Kamiizumi]] in the [[ForScience name of research]], Qada's experiments with the horrific [[DeadlyGas Toxic Mist]]--tales of which are relayed through the ghosts of his victims--killed thousands of men--including some of Eternia's own swordbearers--and ruined parts of the land itself, with Qada studying the effects of his work on the infected corpses. Qada, as TheMedic, also helped to heal both sides of Luxendarc's conflict, purely so he could use their healthy bodies as test subjects for further research. Qada's ambition extends to planning to wipe out the Council of Six with his equally-treacherous compatriots Fiore [=DeRosa=] and Erutus Profiteur to take over Eternia themselves, with Qada planning to unleash a fatal plague through Luxendarc and being completely unsure as to whether he wants to be remembered as a gloried hero for providing an antidote or a vile, disease-spreading madman. The vilest of the Eternian forces in every world he's seen in, Qada's own superior Kamiizumi [[EvenEvilHasStandards is reviled by him]] and kills Qada himself in one of the parallel worlds as a testament to Qada's endless, amoral thirst for knowledge, no matter the cost. Qada is so infamous that the Asterisk he used ends up being sealed away by the sequel, as no-one wanted to let his wicked knowledge contained in the Asterisk out into the wild.
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