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** Kev Walker's work is what drew many people to the series. His long absence from the book (about 3 issues) only allowed the effectiveness of #12's battle scenes to be enhanced.
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** Kev Walker's work is what drew many people to the series. His long absence from the book (about 3 issues) only allowed the effectiveness of #12's battle scenes to be enhanced.
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* CriticalDissonance: The overall fanbase seems split on the title, but it's generally better received by critics and the comics industry. Dennis Hopeless won the 2013 Harvey Award for Most Promising New Talent for the title and from there launched his Marvel writing career.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Some fans just love Apex despite her [[spoiler: murderous]] actions, and utter lack of remorse for them.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Deathlocket was loved from her first POV issue. Cullen Bloodstone (ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} connection) and Anachronism (Axbro) are liked as well, even with little page space. Apex is also emerging as a favorite, which is pretty ''disturbing.''
* DracoInLeatherPants: Some fans just love Apex despite her [[spoiler: murderous]] actions, and utter lack of remorse for them.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Deathlocket was loved from her first POV issue. Cullen Bloodstone (ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} connection) and Anachronism (Axbro) are liked as well, even with little page space. Apex is also emerging as a favorite, which is pretty ''disturbing.''
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* CriticalDissonance: The overall fanbase seems seemed split on the title, but it's it was generally better received by critics and the comics industry. Dennis Hopeless won the 2013 Harvey Award for Most Promising New Talent for the title and from there title, which launched his Marvel writing career.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Some fansjust love Apex despite her [[spoiler: murderous]] actions, and utter lack of remorse for them.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Deathlocket was loved from her first POV issue. Cullen Bloodstone (ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} connection) and Anachronism (Axbro) are liked as well, even with little page space. Apexis also emerging emerged as a favorite, which is pretty ''disturbing.''
* DracoInLeatherPants: Some fans
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Deathlocket was loved from her first POV issue. Cullen Bloodstone (ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} connection) and Anachronism (Axbro) are liked as well, even with little page space. Apex
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* FandomRivalry: An interesting example be because technically speaking ''Arena'' is a sequel to ''Runaways'' and ''Avengers Academy'', but ''Runaways'' fans and ''Academy'' fans for the most part do not like ''Arena'' fans, usually citing how they don't care about complex characters being [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter killed off for cheap shock value]]. Whereas a lot of ''Arena'' fans didn't read the previous books and feel that's it a good story and just want to enjoy it without fretting over continuity.
** Fans of Arena tend to accuse Creator/BoomStudios series ''Deathmatch'' of being a rip-off, despite the fact it was announced to quickly after Arena and Paul Jenkins saying he does ''Deathmatch'' for Boom because he never thought Marvel or DC would let him.
** Fans of Arena tend to accuse Creator/BoomStudios series ''Deathmatch'' of being a rip-off, despite the fact it was announced to quickly after Arena and Paul Jenkins saying he does ''Deathmatch'' for Boom because he never thought Marvel or DC would let him.
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* FandomRivalry: An interesting example be because as, technically speaking speaking, ''Arena'' is a sequel to ''Runaways'' and ''Avengers Academy'', but ''Runaways'' fans and ''Academy'' fans for the most part do not like ''Arena'' fans, usually citing how they don't care about complex characters being [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter killed off for cheap shock value]]. Whereas a lot of ''Arena'' fans didn't read the previous books and feel that's it a good story and just want to enjoy it without fretting over continuity.
** Fans of Arena tend to accuse Creator/BoomStudios series ''Deathmatch'' of being a rip-off, despite the fact it was announcedto so quickly after Arena and Paul Jenkins saying said he does did ''Deathmatch'' for Boom because he never thought Marvel or DC would let him.
** Fans of Arena tend to accuse Creator/BoomStudios series ''Deathmatch'' of being a rip-off, despite the fact it was announced
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* ItWasHisSled: Due to the highly controversial nature of the comic, pretty much every major death or plot twist got plastered all over the internet. [[spoiler:Mettle's death]] in particular got spoiled to hell and back, which really wasn't helped by the fact that it happens within the first issue.
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* ItWasHisSled: Due to the highly controversial nature of the comic, pretty much every major death or plot twist got was plastered all over the internet. [[spoiler:Mettle's death]] in particular got spoiled to hell and back, which really wasn't helped by the fact that it happens within the first issue.
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* {{Misblamed}}: Dennis Hopeless is the resident punching bag for virtually every problem in the series. Even though he's only the ''writer'' for the series, he's blamed for ''artist's'' decisions - and the story wasn't even his initial idea, to boot. This extends to everything he's written since, as all the criticism and fears over characters dying carries over to every book Dennis Hopeless wrote since:
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* {{Misblamed}}: Dennis Hopeless is was the resident punching bag for virtually every problem in the series. Even though he's only he was the ''writer'' for the series, he's blamed for ''artist's'' decisions - and the story wasn't even his initial idea, to boot. This extends to everything he's written since, as all the criticism and fears over characters dying carries over to every book Dennis Hopeless wrote since:
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Several fans are rooting for Apex to win or at least survive. Which is impressive seeing she is all too willing to play Arcade's game.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Several fans are rooting rooted for Apex to win win, or at least survive. Which is impressive seeing she is all too willing to play Arcade's game.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement but according to Hopeless, [[http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/growing-up-isnt-easy-in-dennis-hopeless-avengers-arena-interview/ most of that has quelled and that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by]].
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement but according to Hopeless, [[http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/growing-up-isnt-easy-in-dennis-hopeless-avengers-arena-interview/ most of that has eventually quelled and that the reception has been became more positive than negative as the months went by]].
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, announcement but according to Hopeless, [[http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/growing-up-isnt-easy-in-dennis-hopeless-avengers-arena-interview/ most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.by]].
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.works.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
* WhatAnIdiot: Laura's hotly-debated actions against Apex in issue #10, where [[spoiler: she tries to bum rush Apex head-on, despite Apex being armed with a Sentinel and Deathlocket under her control. It didn't work, but it was possibly the best chance to catch Apex off-guard and only failed because she wasn't fast enough.]]
** Arcade himself. Yeah, kidnapping Wolverine's daughter/clone, a bunch of kids affiliated with in an Avengers sponsored school, etc. isn't going to get him beaten to a bloody pulp in the end. This one is so blatant it even gets {{lampshaded}}. And of course, he uploads all the footage on Website/YouTube titled "What Happened In Murderworld?" so he ''blatantly confesses on the internet'' that it was all his doing since the X-Men and Avengers are very familiar with what Arcade has called his death traps. There's also the fact that his entire scheme to make himself a bigger threat was by making teenagers kill each other.
* WhatAnIdiot: Laura's hotly-debated actions against Apex in issue #10, where [[spoiler: she tries to bum rush Apex head-on, despite Apex being armed with a Sentinel and Deathlocket under her control. It didn't work, but it was possibly the best chance to catch Apex off-guard and only failed because she wasn't fast enough.]]
** Arcade himself. Yeah, kidnapping Wolverine's daughter/clone, a bunch of kids affiliated with in an Avengers sponsored school, etc. isn't going to get him beaten to a bloody pulp in the end. This one is so blatant it even gets {{lampshaded}}. And of course, he uploads all the footage on Website/YouTube titled "What Happened In Murderworld?" so he ''blatantly confesses on the internet'' that it was all his doing since the X-Men and Avengers are very familiar with what Arcade has called his death traps. There's also the fact that his entire scheme to make himself a bigger threat was by making teenagers kill each other.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
* WhatAnIdiot: Laura's hotly-debated actions against Apex in issue #10, where [[spoiler: she tries to bum rush Apex head-on, despite Apex being armed with a Sentinel and Deathlocket under her control. It didn't work, but it was possibly the best chance to catch Apex off-guard and only failed because she wasn't fast enough.]]
** Arcade himself. Yeah, kidnapping Wolverine's daughter/clone, a bunch of kids affiliated with in an Avengers sponsored school, etc. isn't going to get him beaten to a bloody pulp in the end. This one is so blatant it even gets {{lampshaded}}. And of course, he uploads all the footage on Website/YouTube titled "What Happened In Murderworld?" so he ''blatantly confesses on the internet'' that it was all his doing since the X-Men and Avengers are very familiar with what Arcade has called his death traps. There's also the fact that his entire scheme to make himself a bigger threat was by making teenagers kill each other.works.
* WhatAnIdiot: Laura's hotly-debated actions against Apex in issue #10, where [[spoiler: she tries to bum rush Apex head-on, despite Apex being armed with a Sentinel and Deathlocket under her control. It didn't work, but it was possibly the best chance to catch Apex off-guard and only failed because she wasn't fast enough.]]
** Arcade himself. Yeah, kidnapping Wolverine's daughter/clone, a bunch of kids affiliated with in an Avengers sponsored school, etc. isn't going to get him beaten to a bloody pulp in the end. This one is so blatant it even gets {{lampshaded}}. And of course, he uploads all the footage on Website/YouTube titled "What Happened In Murderworld?" so he ''blatantly confesses on the internet'' that it was all his doing since the X-Men and Avengers are very familiar with what Arcade has called his death traps. There's also the fact that his entire scheme to make himself a bigger threat was by making teenagers kill each other.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: One of the many complaints the series has garnered falls along these lines, at first due to the premise, later to how death was handled.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the many complaints the series has garnered falls along these lines, at first due to the premise, later to how death was handled.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
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Except that, as years passed by, people look back at Academy with great love and nostalgia. Can't say much of Hopeless edgefest. The opinion on his work now is even worse.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
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* {{Misblamed}}: Dennis Hopeless is the resident punching bag for virtually every problem in the series. Even though he's only the ''writer'' for the series, he's blamed for ''artist's'' decisions - and the story wasn't even his initial idea, to boot. This extends to everything he's written since, as all the criticism and fears over characters dying carries over to every book Dennis Hopeless wrote since:
-->''"Okay look, there’s no reason to assume I’m going to kill a bunch of characters in every book I write. Avengers Arena was a teenage death match story. People die in those. When I finally decide to write my 200-issue down-on-their-luck high school baseball players epic, chances are good the whole cast will survive till the end. I promise I’m not some sort of blood-hungry sadist who gets his jollies murdering teenagers."''
-->''"Okay look, there’s no reason to assume I’m going to kill a bunch of characters in every book I write. Avengers Arena was a teenage death match story. People die in those. When I finally decide to write my 200-issue down-on-their-luck high school baseball players epic, chances are good the whole cast will survive till the end. I promise I’m not some sort of blood-hungry sadist who gets his jollies murdering teenagers."''
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* ScapegoatCreator: Dennis Hopeless is the detractors' resident punching bag... how bad is it? Let's put it this way: Hopeless is only the ''writer'' on the series and he's blamed for ''artist's'' decisions. And the story ''wasn't even his initial idea''. And it extends to everything he's written since. ''All'' the criticism and fears over characters dying carries over to every book Dennis Hopeless wrote since:
-->[-'''Hopeless'''-]: ''"Okay look, there’s no reason to assume I’m going to kill a bunch of characters in every book I write. Avengers Arena was a teenage death match story. People die in those. When I finally decide to write my 200-issue down-on-their-luck high school baseball players epic, chances are good the whole cast will survive till the end. I promise I’m not some sort of blood-hungry sadist who gets his jollies murdering teenagers."''
-->[-'''Hopeless'''-]: ''"Okay look, there’s no reason to assume I’m going to kill a bunch of characters in every book I write. Avengers Arena was a teenage death match story. People die in those. When I finally decide to write my 200-issue down-on-their-luck high school baseball players epic, chances are good the whole cast will survive till the end. I promise I’m not some sort of blood-hungry sadist who gets his jollies murdering teenagers."''
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We don’t know digital sales, both Marvel and Hopeless said that reception got better.
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* VocalMinority: There was initial outrage at the book's announcement, but most of that has quelled as Hopeless and Marvel have said that the reception has been more positive than negative as the months went by. Not that you could ''tell'', considering the detractors of the book are loud and present and trash the book everywhere (even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki) and Dennis Hopeless to the point of bashing his later works.
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the book sold terribly and the sequel had to be cut down from miniseries size because it just did that badly in sales; i think it's safe to say general reception was not good
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