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** It should also be noted that, as Linkara has pointed out in defense, that Lewis does much more interaction with the general community of those who watch his content than Doug does, meaning these jokes would get old and annoying for him much quicker than they would Doug. Furthermore, Lewis has made it clear he had no issue Oney making jokes about his old webcomic, but only has a problem when fans of Oney enter spaces he controls specifically to mock work he himself doesn't even like.
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* ArchivePanic: ''700 episodes'' and counting over almost ''fifteen years''.

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* ArchivePanic: ''700 episodes'' and counting over almost ''fifteen years''.
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** His coverage of Civil War II and his treatment of Carol. While Linkara repeatedly stated Carol was making a lot of dumb decisions the fact that he constantly lashed out at Tony made it appear that he was siding with Carol. Which wouldn't have been too bad if not for the fact that Carol's side had many elements of police profiling, making it seem that Linkara was endorsing such real life actions
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** His coverage of Civil War II and his treatment of Carol. While Linkara repeatedly stated Carol was making a lot of dumb decisions the fact that he constantly lashed out at Tony made it appear that he was siding with Carol. Which wouldn't have been too bad if not for the fact that Carol's side had many elements of police profiling, making it seem that Linkara was endorsing such real life actions
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* GrowingTheBeard:
** For the general reviews, a general consensus is that Linkara improved as a reviewer when he became less of a CausticCritic, became more nuanced in his reviewing style, and as he started to branch out and reviewing not only good comics but other media as well. Exactly ''when'' this shift happened is debated, but around the time as his first costume change is a commonly cited one.
** For his storyline, while the first couple of arcs are fondly remembered by fans, they really aren't anything more special than the typical "bad guy attacks the reviewer" storylines that were common in the early era of youtube critics. That started to change with ''A Piece Of The World Is Missing'', a storyline that focused on more horror elements and a creeping sense of dread, but also had Linkara saving the day not by fighting like in the previous arcs, but by having him TalkingTheMonsterToDeath. After this, the storylines became more varied, the characters would be more fleshed out, and Lewis would gradually start developing his own lore that didn't need to heavily rely on preexisting media like the early arcs.
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** The Contest of Champions segments, with various layered green screens, CGI animated introductions and backgrounds, and the Temlin Stadium in its full glory, are probably some of the most stylish and impressive (given the nonexistent budget) for the story of Atop the Fourth Wall so far.

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** The Contest of Champions segments, with various layered green screens, CGI animated introductions and backgrounds, and the Temlin Stadium in its full glory, are probably some of the most stylish and impressive (given the nonexistent budget) visual effects for the story of Atop the Fourth Wall so far.
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** The Contest of Champions segments, with various layered green screens, CGI animated introductions and backgrounds, and the Temlin Stadium in its full glory, are probably some of the most stylish and impressive (given the nonexistent budget) for the story of Atop the Fourth Wall so far.

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--> '''NIMUE:''' You are '''''evil''''', [[spoiler:Lord Vyce]], despite your proclamations to the contrary.
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--> ---> '''NIMUE:''' You are '''''evil''''', [[spoiler:Lord Vyce]], despite your proclamations to the contrary.
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** The Bandit Chief shows how far he's willing to go to win the Contest of Champions when [[spoiler: he sends Confession to torture Linkara during a lull in Darth Wiki.
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the contest. This is all so he could gain some vital information to use against Linkara on the possibility they ''might'' be pitted against each other later on in the contest]].
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** Ironically for what was supposed to be a BreatherEpisode, The Contest of Champions itself has also fallen under this. Due to real life scheduling issues, the fallout from the [=#ChangeTheChannel=] controversy, and the COVID-19 pandemic, Lewis was left unable to film the intended scenes for the arc for months at a time and had to scrap plans altogether. As of 2023, the arc has gone on for ''six years'' and the conclusion is still not yet in sight, and even Lewis has indicated that he's also unhappy the storyline has gone on ''much'' longer than he intended and he's also tired of it. As mentioned on the Trivia page, there was a point he very seriously considered [[https://youtu.be/oWXqo3gw33U?t=5467 scrapping the arc entirely and providing a summary of the ending instead]].

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** Ironically for what was supposed to be a BreatherEpisode, The Contest of Champions itself has also fallen under this. Due to real life scheduling issues, the fallout from the [=#ChangeTheChannel=] controversy, and the COVID-19 pandemic, Lewis was left unable to film the intended scenes for the arc for months at a time and had to scrap plans altogether. As of 2023, the The arc has gone went on for ''six years'' and the conclusion is still not yet ending in sight, and even late 2023. Lewis has indicated that he's also unhappy the storyline has gone on ''much'' longer than he intended and he's also tired of it. As mentioned on the Trivia page, there was a point he very seriously considered [[https://youtu.be/oWXqo3gw33U?t=5467 scrapping the arc entirely and providing a summary of the ending instead]].
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** It should also be noted that, as Linkara has pointed out in defense, that Lewis does much more interaction with the general community of those who watch his content than Doug does, meaning these jokes would get old and annoying for him much quicker than they would Doug. Furthermore, Lewis has made it clear he had no issue Oney making jokes about his old webcomic, but only has a problem when fans of Oney enter spaces he controls specifically to mock work he himself doesn't even like.
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* EvilIsSexy: Mechakara has quite a substantial amount of female fans. One of the cards illustrated by the title card artist, WebAnimation/DrCrafty, lampshades this by showing a bunch of fangirls hugging an unamused Mechakara.
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* GatewaySeries: Although Linkara did not expect non-comic books fans to find the show funny, one of the most frequently asked questions is "how do I get into comics?" from people who became interested in comic books after watching the show. This also influenced his decision to phase out the Continuity Alarm. Originally he had it so that he wouldn't ramble about continuity to seasoned comic readers, but found that more people actually wanted him to get into the history of the things he was talking about.

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* GatewaySeries: Although Linkara did not expect non-comic books book fans to find the show funny, one of the most frequently asked questions is "how do I get into comics?" from people who became interested in comic books after watching the show. This also influenced his decision to phase out the Continuity Alarm. Originally he had it so that he wouldn't ramble about continuity to seasoned comic readers, but found that more people actually wanted him to get into the history of the things he was talking about.
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** Drunk Tony Stark. Some find him slurring Iron Man's speech to be funny. Some find it offensive. And some just find it plain annoying. It doesn't help that every time Linkara uses it, he needs to take time out of the review to address the controversy and explain why he's decided to keep doing it. Still, he does go on record claiming that if the comic is in the main continuity and set after the story "Demon In A Bottle" (in which Tony confronts his alcoholism), he will not do the Drunk Voice -- which he makes good on with his overview of the problems with ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', as he doesn't use it for Tony there.

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** Drunk Tony Stark. Some find him slurring Iron Man's speech to be funny. Some find it offensive. And some just find it plain annoying. It doesn't help that every time Linkara uses it, he needs to take time out of the review to address the controversy and explain why he's decided to keep doing it. Still, he does go on record claiming that if the comic is in the main continuity and set after the story "Demon In A Bottle" (in which Tony confronts his alcoholism), he will not do the Drunk Voice -- which he makes good on with his overview of the problems with ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'', as he doesn't use it for Tony there.
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* IKnewIt:
** [[spoiler: The Entity turning out to be Missingno. While there were hints dropped, Lewis states in the ''Electric Tale of Pikachu'' commentary that he was shocked by how many fans figured it before he revealed it.]]
** [[spoiler:Several fans called that the truth of 90s Kid's message from the future in the Sleepwaker arc was that the Entity was back and possessing Linkara.]]
** [[spoiler:Many fans figured out that Linkara's double in the Clone Saga arc was Mechakara.]]

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** Mechakara is also a pretty popular character. Mostly for being a KnightOfCerebus, how he was nearly able to kill Linkara in their battle, and that he's [[spoiler:an evil Pollo from an alternate universe]]. He's so popular that [[spoiler:he was resurrected during the Vyce Arc]] and makes a cameo in a couple other reviews. He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades his own popularity]] in the ''Sultry Teenage Super-Foxes #2'' review. He's one of the major villains in the Website/ChannelAwesome 4th year anniversary crossover ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' and is also the BigBad of TheMovie.

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** Mechakara is also a pretty popular character. Mostly for being a KnightOfCerebus, how he was nearly able to kill Linkara in their battle, and that he's [[spoiler:an evil Pollo from an alternate universe]]. He's so popular that [[spoiler:he was resurrected during the Vyce Arc]] and makes a cameo in a couple other reviews. He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades his own popularity]] in the ''Sultry Teenage Super-Foxes #2'' review. He's one of the major villains in the Website/ChannelAwesome 4th year anniversary crossover ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' and is also the BigBad of TheMovie.[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWallTheMovie the movie]].



** The effects in the movie don't look all that hot either.
*** Vyce's ship looks really fake and compared to the show, which is not helped by the poor lighting and textures used during these sequences or the abundance of dramatic flyby shots that intensify these issues.
*** The sets also leave a lot to be desired. For instance, the bar at the beginning has a bookshelf off to the side; the bridge of Vyce's ship looks desolate and made of cardboard; and the space station's control room is clearly someone's basement (which is [[LampshadedTrope lampshaded]] since it's a CallBack to WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee).
*** The chroma-keying fares no better. This is obvious during all the scenes in the engine room, which look like they came out of something from the mid-90s with very obvious artifacts around the characters.
*** The effects used for Mechakara's torn up face and later, his endo-skeleton, look worse than the CGI on display. The latter simply being a classroom skeleton model painted silver, with tin cans for shoulders. It's really disappointing compared to the [[SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome makeup]] in WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee.
*** None of these are helped by the film being shot in 720p just like the series as opposed to 1080p or higher.
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** His rant about the events of ''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' and expressing the fear of it not being undone unless fans demand it. Thanks to fan and even creator backlash, that's ''exactly'' what happened: The original ''ComicBook/DCInfiniteFrontier'' one-shot revealed Roy came back and had Barry ask Wally to be the Flash again, and the first and penultimate arcs of ''ComicBook/TheFlashInfiniteFrontier'' revealed that Wally ''didn't'' kill anyone -- the first arc revealed the Speed Force explosion wasn't due to Wally breaking down, but was really was the result of Savitar being trapped in it, his attempts to take control of it, and the SpeedForce trying to kick him out and "One Minute War" revealing that [[spoiler:Gold Beetle pulled the same "swap out with dead clones" that was done with Wally on everyone ''outside'' of Wally, Roy, and Poison Ivy. Hell, even unrelated to ''Heroes in Crisis'' thepenultimate issue of the Flash's ''IF'' run revealed that Donny Troy and Tempest's respective sons, as well as the long-thought unborn son of the second Mr. Terrific, were still alive.]]

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** His rant about the events of ''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' and expressing the fear of it not being undone unless fans demand it. Thanks to fan and even creator backlash, that's ''exactly'' what happened: The original ''ComicBook/DCInfiniteFrontier'' one-shot revealed Roy came back and had Barry ask Wally to be the Flash again, and the first and penultimate arcs of ''ComicBook/TheFlashInfiniteFrontier'' revealed that Wally ''didn't'' kill anyone -- the first arc revealed the Speed Force explosion wasn't due to Wally breaking down, but was really was the result of Savitar being trapped in it, his attempts to take control of it, and the SpeedForce Speed Force trying to kick him out and "One Minute War" revealing that [[spoiler:Gold Beetle pulled the same "swap "save everyone and swap them out with dead clones" that was done with Wally himself on everyone ''outside'' of Wally, him, Roy, and Poison Ivy. Hell, even unrelated to ''Heroes in Crisis'' thepenultimate the penultimate issue of the Flash's ''IF'' run revealed that Donny Troy Troia's and Tempest's respective sons, as well as the long-thought unborn son of the second Mr. Terrific, were still alive.]]
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** His rant about the events of ''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis'' and expressing the fear of it not being undone unless fans demand it. Thanks to fan and even creator backlash, that's ''exactly'' what happened: The original ''ComicBook/DCInfiniteFrontier'' one-shot revealed Roy came back and had Barry ask Wally to be the Flash again, and the first and penultimate arcs of ''ComicBook/TheFlashInfiniteFrontier'' revealed that Wally ''didn't'' kill anyone -- the first arc revealed the Speed Force explosion wasn't due to Wally breaking down, but was really was the result of Savitar being trapped in it, his attempts to take control of it, and the SpeedForce trying to kick him out and "One Minute War" revealing that [[spoiler:Gold Beetle pulled the same "swap out with dead clones" that was done with Wally on everyone ''outside'' of Wally, Roy, and Poison Ivy. Hell, even unrelated to ''Heroes in Crisis'' thepenultimate issue of the Flash's ''IF'' run revealed that Donny Troy and Tempest's respective sons, as well as the long-thought unborn son of the second Mr. Terrific, were still alive.]]

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** [[KnightOfCerebus Mechakara]] is a robot from an AlternateUniverse where Linkara's RobotBuddy Pollo turned evil and killed him when the machines overthrew humanity. His first plan revolves around sending [[AntiHero Linkara]] into a mental breakdown; when that fails, he captures him and plans to kill him slowly, simply because his death went too fast the first time around. While that would normally make him just another killer robot, he stands out when, after getting the magic MacGuffin that he came for, he vows to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all organic life]] in the multiverse. During the ''Silent Hill Dead/Alive'' videos, Mechakara [[spoiler:slowly {{mind rape}}s Linkara into thinking he's the (actually long dead) man who tortured his son to create Linkara's Magic Gun and almost convinces him to kill himself]]. In ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'', Mechakara passes himself off as Linkara and infiltrates the USS Exit Strategy, intending to kill the entire crew with the help of the [[UnwillingRoboticisation forcibly assimilated]] Todd and Nostalgia Chick. Later, Mechakara assimilates the crew of the Caelestis space station and drains the life force of one astronaut in an attempt to recharge the ship. Only working with others when his goals coincide with theirs and perfectly willing to kill them otherwise, Mechakara is fueled only by his hatred for Linkara and all organic life forms.

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** [[KnightOfCerebus Mechakara]] is a robot from an AlternateUniverse where Linkara's RobotBuddy Pollo turned evil and evil, killed him when the machines him, and robots overthrew humanity. Arriving in this universe, Mechakara intends to steal Linkara's Magic Gun so he can harness the power of magic and crush the remaining resistance on his world. His first plan revolves plans revolved around sending [[AntiHero Linkara]] Linkara into a mental breakdown; and, when that fails, he captures him and plans to kill him slowly, simply because his death went too fast the first time around. While that would normally make him just another killer robot, he stands out when, after getting the magic MacGuffin that he came for, he vows to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all organic life]] in the multiverse. During the ''Silent Hill Dead/Alive'' videos, Mechakara [[spoiler:slowly {{mind rape}}s slowly {{Mind Rape}}s Linkara into thinking he's the (actually long dead) dead man who tortured his son to create Linkara's the Magic Gun and almost convinces him to kill himself]].himself. In ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'', Mechakara passes himself off as Linkara and infiltrates the USS Exit Strategy, intending to kill the entire crew with the help of the [[UnwillingRoboticisation forcibly assimilated]] Todd and Nostalgia Chick. Later, Mechakara assimilates would later assimilate the crew of the Caelestis space station and drains drained the life force of one astronaut in an attempt to recharge the ship. Only working with others when his goals coincide with theirs and perfectly willing to kill them otherwise, Mechakara is fueled only by his hatred for Linkara and all organic life forms.


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** "[[Recap/AtopTheFourthWallTheMachinationsOfWorms The Machinations of Worms]]": [[JerkassGods The King of Worms]] is the youngest of the Entity's family of {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, but makes up for its comparative lack of power in sheer sadism. The only one of its kind capable of understanding fear, the King had its visage scarred by the alien emotion and set out to master fear, initially so it could heal its face. However, the King soon began to covet its power so it could subjugate its fellow Outer Gods, sending its clockwork servants throughout the multiverse to learn more about fear. Coming across a world that had never felt strife or pain, the King introduced nightmares that drove the populace insane and caused them to violently butcher each other; the sole survivor was granted restored sanity by the King, who built its first throne upon their despairing soul. Upon learning of the Entity committing suicide, the King abducts Linkara so it can shred his very soul to learn what fear drove its elder cousin to kill itself, intent on spreading this fear "to every being, everywhere, forever."

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