History YMMV / AtelierLydieAndSuelleTheAlchemistsAndTheMysteriousPaintings

* {{Gamebreaker}}:
** The Firis Bomb technique. First, Firis in the support row can use several powerful alchemic elemental arrows when the appropriate battle item elements are used. Second, there are two Traits called "Twin Powers" and "Twin Powers Alternate", which add fire/water and wind/volt damage to your attack items. You can, for example, make a Flame of the End attack weapon with both these Traits attached, in addition to maxing out the attribute levels in order to maximise damage. Now, you will basically unleash not only a powerful attack item which hits with multiple elements at once, but also trigger all of Firis's support skills in rapid succession, resulting in a long bombardment of the enemy with powerful alchemically-enhanced arrows. With the proper preparations, the Firis Bomb Combo can take even the endgame bosses and shred them.

* InternetBackdraft: Much like the situation with ''VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction'' NoDubForYou controversy, ''Lydie And Suelle'' not getting an English dub got this reaction from the fandom considering the previous two games of the trilogy were given English dubs (and for that matter, ''all'' games in the series for both [=PS3=] and [=PS4=] to that point, since ''Atelier Rorona'', had received dubs) and the fact that this game is coming in as 20th anniversary milestone of the series, making the series feel more inconsistent. Although unlike the Blazblue controversy, the backlash wasn't as harsh due to the fact that the Atelier series is far more niche when compared to Blazbue and the fact the game had a poor first week of sales in Japan gives ''some'' justifications on why it wasn't released with one.

* InternetBackdraft: Much like the situation with ''VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction'' NoDubForYou controversy, ''Lydie And Suelle'' not getting an English dub got this reaction from the fandom considering the previous two games of the trilogy were given English dubs (and for that matter, ''all'' games in the series for both [=PS3=] and [=PS4=] to that point, since ''Atelier Rorona'', had received dubs) and the fact that this game is coming in as 20th anniversary milestone of the series, making the series fell more inconsistent. Although unlike the Blazblue controversy, the backlash wasn't as harsh due to the fact that the Atelier series is far more niche when compared to Blazbue and the fact the game had a poor first week of sales in Japan gives ''some'' justifications on why it wasn't released with one.

* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to the aforementioned criticisms of the Mysterious series and ''Firis'' causing the franchise to have a huge tank in sales after ''Sophie'', upon ''Lydie & Suelle'''s announcement Gust immediately tried to invoke this trope by promising that it would be different from prior entries, to the point where they released a free demo of the game and [[https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/atelier/lydie/trial-uservoice.html showcased an entire event of player testimony on its improvements]]. Ultimately, while the final game ended up critically praised for indeed fixing many of the issues from the prior games, it ultimately ended up with 180,000 sales by April 2018 off word of mouth after a poor first week of sales.

* InternetBackdraft: Much like the situation with ''VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction'' NoDubForYou controversy, ''Lydie And Suelle'' not getting an English dub got this reaction from the fandom considering the previous two games of the trilogy were given English dubs (and for that matter, ''all'' games in the series for both [=PS3=] and [=PS4=] to that point, since ''Atelier Rorona'', had received dubs) and the fact that this game is coming in as 20th anniversary milestone of the series, making the series fell more inconsistent. Although unlike the Blazblue controversy, the backlash wasn't as harsh due to the fact that the Atelier series is far more niche when compared to Blazbue and the fact the game sold poorly in Japan gives ''some'' justifications on why it wasn't released with one.

* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to the aforementioned criticisms of the Mysterious series and ''Firis'' causing the franchise to have a huge tank in sales after ''Sophie'', upon ''Lydie & Suelle'''s announcement Gust immediately tried to invoke this trope by promising that it would be different from prior entries, to the point where they released a free demo of the game and [[https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/atelier/lydie/trial-uservoice.html showcased an entire event of player testimony on its improvements]]. Ultimately, while the final game ended up critically praised for indeed fixing many of the issues from the prior games, it was already too late to stop the damage of decreasing sales, resulting in the game being an AcclaimedFlop.

* Heartwarmer:
** The last sequence of Chapter 9, wherein [[spoiler: the twins inspire Roger to stop wallowing in his misery and restore the Heavenly Flower Garden, and the three finally reunite with Honette in the Heavenly Flower Garden's atelier. Everyone involved cries from the sheer catharsis of meeting their beloved family after all this time.]]
** The end of Chapter 10, [[spoiler: after the twins reconcile and report to Honette. The whole family then fulfills another promise Roger made to Honette to take the family on a vacation through the Mysterious Paintings, complete with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXYgOSkzbo a heartwarming vocal track]].]]
** Firis' level 70 friendship event: early on, Firis is established to feel guilty about [[spoiler: leaving her and Ilmeria's atelier to go traveling, and believes that Ilmeria resents her for it. After the twins strong arm her into finally asking Ilmeria about it, Ilmeria tells her that she understands Firis' love for travel, and that she'll wait for her to return so they can run an atelier together.]]

* InternetBackdraft: Much like the situation with ''VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction'' NoDubForYou controversy, ''Lydie And Suelle'' not getting an English dub got this reaction from the fandom considering the previous two games of the trilogy were given English dubs and the fact that this game is coming in as 20th anniversary milestone of the series, making the series fell more inconsistent. Although unlike the Blazblue controversy, the backlash wasn't as harsh due to the fact that the Atelier series is far more niche when compared to Blazbue and the fact the game sold poorly in Japan gives ''some'' justifications on why it wasn't released with one.

* GuideDangIt: The endings requirements are rather obtuse even for Atelier standards.

* InternetBackdraft: Much like the situation with ''VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction'' NoDubForYou controversy, ''Lydie And Suelle'' not getting an English dub got this reaction from the fandom considering the previous two games were given English dubs and the fact that this game is coming in as 20th anniversary milestone of the series, making the series fell more inconsistent. Although unlike the Blazblue controversy, the backlash wasn't as harsh due to the fact that the Atelier series is far more niche when compared to Blazbue and the fact the game sold poorly in Japan gives ''some'' justifications on why it wasn't released with one.

* UnexpectedCharacter: The Puni from the Exam in Atelier Firis returns for one scene, an is terrified to see Ilmeria again. Mainly due to being [[ButtMonkey used as a target]] [[NoKillLikeOverkill for several end game bombs.]]

* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: After ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]'', the Mysterious series had come to be a somewhat polarizing one among Atelier fans, with players citing reasons such as comparatively uninteresting characters, stripped-down combat, tedious gameplay pacing, among others. ''Lydie & Suelle'', in contrast, heavily simplified the more obtuse parts of the system and is completely ''packed'' with characterization events, resulting in much higher critical approval.

* TaintedByThePreview: The announcement that the game's Western release would, for the first time in series history, [[https://www.dualshockers.com/atelier-lydie-suelle-japanese-voice-overs/ not have an English dub]], has caused many fans to reconsider their purchase. Some are especially annoyed that the previous games of the trilogy have a dub, making it feel inconsistent and wishing that they would at least finish the Mysterious series with a dub before switching to subs only, while others simply refuse to play any game without a dub.

* WinBackTheCrowd: Due to the aforementioned criticisms of the Mysterious series and ''Firis'' causing the franchise to have a huge tank in sales after ''Sophie'', upon ''Lydie & Suelle'''s announcement Gust immediately tried to invoke this trope by promising that it would be different from prior entries, to the point where they released a free demo of the game and showcased an entire event of player testimony on its improvements. Ultimately, while the final game ended up critically praised for indeed fixing many of the issues from the prior games, it was already too late to stop the damage of decreasing sales, resulting in the game being an AcclaimedFlop.

** In terms of its position as a series finale, it's also considered to operate as a far more satisfying conclusion than the last one, ''[[VideoGame/AtelierShallieAlchemistsOfTheDuskSea Atelier Shallie]]''; whereas ''Shallie'' was criticized for ending the Dusk trilogy on too much of an open-ended and inconclusive note, ''Lydie & Suelle'' goes in completely the opposite direction and goes out of its way to bring the Mysterious trilogy's themes and loose plot ends. It's also considered to handle the dual protagonists in a better way than ''Shallie'' or its predecessor ''[[VideoGame/AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky Escha & Logy]]'', in that rather than having two barely different-routes in order to get all of the story content and the GoldenEnding, this game allows you to switch protagonists anytime and focuses on a single story involving the two of them.

* AcclaimedFlop: Upon the game's release, it became an instant hit among players, who praised it for its involved plot and characterization, high-quality music, solid conclusion to the plot of the Mysterious saga, and gameplay that fixed many of the severe issues that had plagued ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]''. Unfortunately, it was too late; said two games had caused a massive drop in audience interest, and despite an involved [=20th=] anniversary campaign from Gust that advertised ''Lydie & Suelle'' as different from past entries, the game's actual sales were ''atrocious'', with its first-week Japanese sales being the worst in the franchise since ''[[ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy Mana Khemia 2]]''.

* AcclaimedFlop: Upon the game's release, it became an instant hit among players, who praised it for its involved plot and characterization, high-quality music, conclusion to the plot of the Mysterious saga, and gameplay that fixed many of the severe issues that had plagued ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]''. Unfortunately, it was too late; said two games had caused a massive drop in audience interest, and despite an involved [=20th=] anniversary campaign from Gust that advertised ''Lydie & Suelle'' as different from past entries, the game's actual sales were ''atrocious'', with its first-week Japanese sales being the worst in the franchise since ''[[ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy Mana Khemia 2]]''.

* AcclaimedFlop: Upon the game's release, it became an instant hit among players, who praised it for its involved plot and characterization, high-quality music, conclusion to the plot of the Mysterious saga, and gameplay that fixed many of the severe issues that had plagued ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]''. Unfortunately, the damage had been done; said two games had caused a massive drop in audience interest, and despite an involved [=20th=] anniversary campaign from Gust that advertised the game as different from past entries, the game's actual sales were ''atrocious'', with its first week sales being the worst in the franchise since ''[[ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy Mana Khemia 2]]''.

* AcclaimedFlop: Upon the game's release, it became an instant hit among players, who praised it for its involved plot and characterization, high-quality music, conclusion to the plot of the Mysterious saga, and gameplay that fixed many of the severe issues that had plagued ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]''. Unfortunately, said two games had caused a massive drop in audience interest, and despite an involved [=20th=] anniversary campaign from Gust that advertised the game as different from past entries, the game's actual sales were ''atrocious'', with its first week sales being the worst in the franchise since ''[[ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy Mana Khemia 2]]''.

* AcclaimedFlop: Upon the game's release, it became an instant hit among players, who praised it for its involved plot and characterization, high-quality music, conclusion to the plot of the Mysterious saga, and gameplay that fixed many of the gameplay problems that had plagued ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]''. Unfortunately, said two games had caused a massive drop in audience interest, and despite an involved [=20th=] anniversary campaign from Gust that advertised the game as different from past entries, the game's actual sales were ''atrocious'', with its first week sales being the worst in the franchise since ''[[ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy Mana Khemia 2]]''.

* AcclaimedFlop: Upon the game's release, it became an instant hit among players, praising it for its involved plot and characterization, high-quality music, conclusion to the plot of the Mysterious saga, and gameplay that fixed many of the gameplay problems that had plagued ''[[VideoGame/AtelierSophieTheAlchemistOfTheMysteriousBook Sophie]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/AtelierFirisTheAlchemistAndTheMysteriousJourney Firis]]''. Unfortunately, said two games had caused a massive drop in audience interest, and despite an involved [=20th=] anniversary campaign from Gust that advertised the game as different from past entries, the game's actual sales were ''atrocious'', with its first week sales being the worst in the franchise since ''[[ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy Mana Khemia 2]]''.