History YMMV / Aquaman

7th Jun '16 1:29:22 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[ArchEnemy Black Manta]], real name [[ScaryBlackMan David]], makes his living as a [[RuthlessModernPirates brutal]] [[SubmarinePirate pirate]], often [[PsychoForHire in the employ of others]], and is obsessed with destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta [[WouldHurtAChild killed Aquaman's infant son]] by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta [[OffingTheOffspring attempted to murder him]] with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. In ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Manta tries to go straight, opening up a fish market, but when the customers rejoice that Aquaman is alive, Manta murders them with a knife, before burning down his own house and resuming his quest for vengeance. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire ocean just for the chance to hurt his nemesis.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ArchEnemy Black Manta]], real name [[ScaryBlackMan David]], makes his living as a [[RuthlessModernPirates brutal]] [[SubmarinePirate [[SubmarinePirates pirate]], often [[PsychoForHire in the employ of others]], and is obsessed with destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta [[WouldHurtAChild killed Aquaman's infant son]] by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta [[OffingTheOffspring attempted to murder him]] with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. In ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Manta tries to go straight, opening up a fish market, but when the customers rejoice that Aquaman is alive, Manta murders them with a knife, before burning down his own house and resuming his quest for vengeance. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire ocean just for the chance to hurt his nemesis.
7th Jun '16 1:28:18 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[ArchEnemy Black Manta]], real name [[ScaryBlackMan David]], makes his living as a brutal pirate, often [[PsychoForHire in the employ of others]], and is obsessed with destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta [[WouldHurtAChild killed Aquaman's infant son]] by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta attempted to murder him with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. In ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Manta tries to go straight, opening up a fish market, but when the customers rejoice that Aquaman is alive, Manta murders them with a knife, before burning down his own house and resuming his quest for vengeance. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire oceans just for a chance to hurt his nemesis.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ArchEnemy Black Manta]], real name [[ScaryBlackMan David]], makes his living as a brutal pirate, [[RuthlessModernPirates brutal]] [[SubmarinePirate pirate]], often [[PsychoForHire in the employ of others]], and is obsessed with destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta [[WouldHurtAChild killed Aquaman's infant son]] by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta [[OffingTheOffspring attempted to murder him him]] with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. In ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Manta tries to go straight, opening up a fish market, but when the customers rejoice that Aquaman is alive, Manta murders them with a knife, before burning down his own house and resuming his quest for vengeance. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire oceans ocean just for a the chance to hurt his nemesis.
10th Apr '16 8:22:05 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[ArchEnemy Black Manta]] makes his living as a brutal {{pirate}} who is hell bent on destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta once [[WouldHurtAChild killed Aquaman's infant son]] by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta attempted to murder him with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire oceans just for a chance to hurt his nemesis.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ArchEnemy Black Manta]] Manta]], real name [[ScaryBlackMan David]], makes his living as a brutal {{pirate}} who pirate, often [[PsychoForHire in the employ of others]], and is hell bent on obsessed with destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta once [[WouldHurtAChild killed Aquaman's infant son]] by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta attempted to murder him with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. In ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Manta tries to go straight, opening up a fish market, but when the customers rejoice that Aquaman is alive, Manta murders them with a knife, before burning down his own house and resuming his quest for vengeance. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire oceans just for a chance to hurt his nemesis.
31st Mar '16 9:19:16 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** In the Dan Abnett run, Mera dopting the identity of Aquawoman and wearing a version of Arthur's outfit. Some think it removes her identity and reduces her to a DistaffCounterpart to Aquaman, and doesn't fit for the character. Others think it's a good look for her and it'll allow her to move beyond being just a supporting character for Arthur.

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** In the Dan Abnett run, Mera dopting the identity of Aquawoman and wearing a version of Arthur's outfit. Some think it removes her identity and reduces her to a DistaffCounterpart to Aquaman, and doesn't fit for the character. Others think it's a good look for her and it'll allow her to move beyond being just a supporting character for Arthur. Abnett seems to be aware of it, as Mera and Arthur themselves think the name is lame, and they admit to it being a marketing gimmick, albeit one that humans seem to like.
31st Mar '16 8:18:36 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* BrokenBase: The beard and hook hand. Some prefer the clean cut look, while others prefer his bearded, Viking/pirate look.

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The beard and hook hand. Some prefer the clean cut look, while others prefer his bearded, Viking/pirate look.



** In the Dan Abnett run, Mera dopting the identity of Aquawoman and wearing a version of Arthur's outfit. Some think it removes her identity and reduces her to a DistaffCounterpart to Aquaman, and doesn't fit for the character. Others think it's a good look for her and it'll allow her to move beyond being just a supporting character for Arthur.



* EnsembleDarkHorse: Orm's New 52 incarnation is pretty popular, if only because it made him an AntiVillain and gave him ''depth'', with his relationship with Arthur growing beyond simple GreenEyedMonster. He got the Sinestro treatment in that Johns turned him into a much more sympathetic and interesting character, and many readers are waiting for his return.



* EnsembleDarkHorse: Orm's New 52 incarnation is pretty popular, if only because it made him an AntiVillain and gave him ''depth'', with his relationship with Arthur growing beyond simple GreenEyedMonster. He got the Sinestro treatment in that Johns turned him into a much more sympathetic and interesting character, and many readers are waiting for his return.
20th Dec '15 1:32:59 PM KamenRiderKrypton
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* FandomBerserkButton: As you'd guess, calling him useless. Hell, this is one for the entire DC fanbase and is akin to Ant-Man jokes to the Marvel fanbase; basically stopped being funny two decades ago anx screams, "I don't actually read them."

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* FandomBerserkButton: As you'd guess, calling him useless. Hell, this is one for the entire DC fanbase and is akin to Ant-Man jokes to the Marvel fanbase; basically stopped being funny two decades ago anx and screams, "I don't actually read them."
6th Dec '15 6:10:03 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* DorkAge: Cullen Bunn's run on the New 52 title. The story is generic pulp fiction which Bunn himself even admits did not suit the character. At the same time, it also did its best to undo all the work the Johns and Parker runs did before it: Arthur is now hated by Atlanteans again despite the entirety of Johns run focusing on his gaining acceptance. Mera is how hunting Arthur, destroying all the development their relationship went through in both previous runs, particularly Parker's. Literally none of the supporting cast return, not even Tula, who had been consistently used since being introduced. Arthur now has weird powers like teleportation thanks to Poseidon, who literally no Atlantean befors this run made mention of, and who Arthur outright denied the ''existence'' of over in ''JLA''. The reveal that Mera has a [[spoiler:evil twin sister]] is laughed at for its incredible soap drama-esque nature. The mere cover of the first issue pissed fans off for very obviously trying to incorporate aspects of the movie design in with Arthur's classic look, the result being an incredibly ugly look. The only redeeming factor of the entire thing was introducing the New 52 Garth (though this also ignores Johns' run which mentions him being a newborn), and even ''then'', Bunn didn't do anything with him, and this was likely ExecutiveMeddling since DC began pushing the original Teen Titans at this time (complete with their own miniseries), meaning anyone would've done it. The backlash to Bunn's run was so strong that Bunn wanted to leave the book before his first issue even shipped, and was convinced to finish his arc by his editor.

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* DorkAge: Cullen Bunn's run on the New 52 title. The story is generic pulp fiction which Bunn himself even admits did not suit the character. At the same time, it also did its best to undo all the work the Johns and Parker runs did before it: it. Arthur is now hated by Atlanteans again despite the entirety of Johns Johns' run focusing on his gaining acceptance. Mera is how hunting Arthur, destroying all the development their relationship went through in both previous runs, particularly Parker's. Literally none of the supporting cast return, not even Tula, who had been consistently used since being introduced. Arthur now has weird powers like teleportation thanks to Poseidon, who literally no Atlantean befors before this run made mention of, and who Arthur outright denied the ''existence'' of over in ''JLA''. The reveal that Mera has a an [[spoiler:evil twin sister]] is laughed at for its incredible soap drama-esque nature. The mere cover of the first issue pissed fans off for very obviously trying to incorporate aspects of the movie design in with Arthur's classic look, the result being an incredibly ugly look. costume. The only redeeming factor of the entire thing was introducing the New 52 Garth (though this also ignores Johns' run which mentions him being a newborn), and even ''then'', Bunn didn't do anything with him, and this was likely ExecutiveMeddling since DC began pushing the original Teen Titans at this time (complete with their own miniseries), meaning anyone would've could've done it. The backlash to Bunn's run was so strong that Bunn wanted to leave the book before his first issue even shipped, and was convinced to at least finish his arc by his editor.
5th Dec '15 10:22:01 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* DorkAge: Cullen Bunn's run on the New 52 title. The story is generic pulp fiction which Bunn himself even admits did not suit the character. At the same time, it also did its best to undue all the work the Johns and Parker runs did before it: Arthur is now hated by Atlanteans again despite the entirety of Johns run focusing on his gaining acceptance. Mera is how hunting Arthur, destroying all the development their relationship went through in both previous runs, particularly Parker's. Literally none of the supporting cast return, not even Tula, who had been consistently used since being introduced. Arthur now has weird powers like teleportation thanks to Poseidon, who literally no Atlantean befors this run made mention of, and who Arthur outright denied the ''existence'' of over in ''JLA''. The reveal that Mera has a [[spoiler:evil twin sister]] is laughed at for its incredible soap drama-esque nature. The mere cover of the first issue pissed fans off for very obviously trying to incorporate aspects of the movie design in with Arthur's classic look, the result being an incredibly ugly look. The only redeeming factor of the entire thing was introducing the New 52 Garth (though this also ignores Johns' run which mentions him being a newborn), and even ''then'', Bunn didn't do anything with him, and this was likely ExecutiveMeddling since DC began pushing the original Teen Titans at this time (complete with their own miniseries), meaning anyone would've done it. The backlash to Bunn's run was so strong that Bunn wanted to leave the book before his first issue even shipped, and was convinced to finish his arc by his editor.

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* DorkAge: Cullen Bunn's run on the New 52 title. The story is generic pulp fiction which Bunn himself even admits did not suit the character. At the same time, it also did its best to undue undo all the work the Johns and Parker runs did before it: Arthur is now hated by Atlanteans again despite the entirety of Johns run focusing on his gaining acceptance. Mera is how hunting Arthur, destroying all the development their relationship went through in both previous runs, particularly Parker's. Literally none of the supporting cast return, not even Tula, who had been consistently used since being introduced. Arthur now has weird powers like teleportation thanks to Poseidon, who literally no Atlantean befors this run made mention of, and who Arthur outright denied the ''existence'' of over in ''JLA''. The reveal that Mera has a [[spoiler:evil twin sister]] is laughed at for its incredible soap drama-esque nature. The mere cover of the first issue pissed fans off for very obviously trying to incorporate aspects of the movie design in with Arthur's classic look, the result being an incredibly ugly look. The only redeeming factor of the entire thing was introducing the New 52 Garth (though this also ignores Johns' run which mentions him being a newborn), and even ''then'', Bunn didn't do anything with him, and this was likely ExecutiveMeddling since DC began pushing the original Teen Titans at this time (complete with their own miniseries), meaning anyone would've done it. The backlash to Bunn's run was so strong that Bunn wanted to leave the book before his first issue even shipped, and was convinced to finish his arc by his editor.
5th Dec '15 10:21:10 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* DorkAge: Cullen Bunn's run on the New 52 title. The story is generic pulp fiction which Bunn himself even admits did not suit the character. At the same time, it also did its best to undue all the work the Johns and Parker runs did before it: Arthur is now hated by Atlanteans again despite the entirety of Johns run focusing on his gaining acceptance. Mera is how hunting Arthur, destroying all the development their relationship went through in both previous runs, particularly Parker's. Literally none of the supporting cast return, not even Tula, who had been consistently used since being introduced. Arthur now has weird powers like teleportation thanks to Poseidon, who literally no Atlantean befors this run made mention of, and who Arthur outright denied the ''existence'' of over in ''JLA''. The reveal that Mera has a [[spoiler:evil twin sister]] is laughed at for its incredible soap drama-esque nature. The mere cover of the first issue pissed fans off for very obviously trying to incorporate aspects of the movie design in with Arthur's classic look, the result being an incredibly ugly look. The only redeeming factor of the entire thing was introducing the New 52 Garth (though this also ignores Johns' run which mentions him being a newborn), and even ''then'', Bunn didn't do anything with him, and this was likely ExecutiveMeddling since DC began pushing the original Teen Titans at this time (complete with their own miniseries), meaning anyone would've done it. The backlash to Bunn's run was so strong that Bunn wanted to leave the book before his first issue even shipped, and was convinced to finish his arc by his editor.



* FandomBerserkButton: As you'd guess, calling him useless.

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* FandomBerserkButton: As you'd guess, calling him useless. Hell, this is one for the entire DC fanbase and is akin to Ant-Man jokes to the Marvel fanbase; basically stopped being funny two decades ago anx screams, "I don't actually read them."
22nd Oct '15 9:58:23 AM Greystone101
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** The casting of Jason Momoa as Aquaman for the upcoming DC Cinematic Universe. Some think it's a brilliant move that will not only help redefine the character but also help permanently destroy his old reputation of being lame. Others think Momoa is hopelessly miscast and nowhere near talented enough to pull it off.

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** The casting of Jason Momoa as Aquaman for the upcoming DC Cinematic Universe. Some think it's a brilliant move that will not only help redefine the character but also help permanently destroy his old reputation of being lame. Others think Momoa is hopelessly miscast and nowhere near talented enough to pull it off. And a further set think that Mamoa ''will'' pull it off, but it won't help the character as a whole due to the vastly different look (i.e 'Classic' Aquaman'll still be thought of as being lame, whilst only Mamoa's Aquaman will be thought of as awesome.)
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