History YMMV / AmericanHistoryX

9th Jan '16 12:20:57 PM bjshipley1
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* JerkassWoobie: Davina Vinyard.

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* JerkassWoobie: Davina Vinyard. Though the only people she was ever a Jerkass to were [[AcceptablePoliticalTargets Derek (pre-prison) and his white supremacist friends]].
13th Nov '15 4:38:22 AM Shadowgazer
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** Cameron was obviously beyond it, what with being behind organised attacks against immigrants but he also said he that Danny would take Derek's place and Derek wouldn't be able to get away from it.
** The prison rape as well though it is hardly surprising from such scumbags.

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** [[RuleOfThree Also]] Cameron was obviously beyond it, what with being behind organised attacks against immigrants but he also said he that Danny would take Derek's place and Derek wouldn't be able to get away from it.
** [[OverlyLongGag Also]] The prison rape as well though it is hardly surprising from such scumbags.
13th Nov '15 4:35:11 AM Shadowgazer
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* MoralEventHorizon: Derek shooting at the armed assailants intruding on his home is defensible as defense of home, but when he kills one of them after he seriously wounded him is sailing over the line.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Derek shooting at the armed assailants intruding on his home is defensible as defense of home, but when he kills one of them after he seriously wounded him is sailing over the line. Some would say that the line was crossed when he and the other attackers assaulted and tormented the workers of the shop who unlike the criminals did nothing to deserve this apart from being immigrants.
** Also his fellow members, especially Seth and his girlfriend, threatened to shoot him when he decided that he was through with the neonazi life.
** Cameron was obviously beyond it, what with being behind organised attacks against immigrants but he also said he that Danny would take Derek's place and Derek wouldn't be able to get away from it.
** The prison rape as well though it is hardly surprising from such scumbags.
** Henry shot Danny to death. While Danny was a Neonazi the only thing he did to him, was defy him while he was bullying another student for no good reason. The biggest culprit was his brother who told him to do it as his initiation into their gang.
21st Sep '15 3:58:45 PM t209
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** AccidentalAesop: Though it can also be viewed as dangers of idolization towards individuals (including family members and their beliefs) without thinking, ranging from Derek's dismissal of his black teacher's lesson from his father's lecture to [[spoiler: Henry's murdering Daniel due to influence of his elder brother]] as example of its message.
2nd Aug '15 4:51:09 PM FungusFromYuggoth
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* BrokenAesop: In a clearly unintended, but quite tragically ironic way, the very ending ([[spoiler: Danny, reformed under Derek's influence and ready to renounce racism, being shot by a black gangbanger]]) can come across as this. While the message of the film is intended to be "Racism is wrong as there are good and bad individuals of every race and racial prejudice only perpetuates violence", those last minutes can almost make it seem as if the message were "Be nice to the minorities, [[{{UnfortunateImplications}} otherwise they'll just kill you for no reason]]", in what jarringly feels like an invalidation of the entire movie's point.
15th Jul '15 7:58:30 PM Eagal
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is still a shockingly high number of Neo-Nazis both in California and Tony Kaye's native England. There's no other way to say it, either; racism is a pointlessly destructive thing.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There is still a shockingly high number of Neo-Nazis both in California and Tony Kaye's native England. There's no other way to say it, either; racism is a pointlessly destructive thing.thing no matter who its perpetrators or targets are.
15th Jul '15 7:57:08 PM Eagal
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15th Jul '15 7:56:40 PM Eagal
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: The film's message is "racism is bad", but the contrast between the generally charismatic Nazis and the villainous black gangs, along with some general MisaimedFandom tendencies among certain audiences, means that the film is actually quite popular in certain white supremacist circles. Which is just plain maddening the more you think about it...

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: The film's message is "racism is bad", but the contrast between the generally charismatic Nazis and the villainous black gangs, along with some general MisaimedFandom tendencies among certain audiences, means that the film is actually quite popular in certain white supremacist circles. Which is just plain maddening the more you think about it...
15th Jul '15 7:56:10 PM Eagal
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: The film's message is "racism is bad", but the contrast between the generally charismatic Nazis and the villainous black gangs, along with some general MisaimedFandom tendencies among certain audiences, means that the film is actually quite popular in certain white supremacist circles. Which is just plain maddening the more you think about it...
15th Jul '15 7:47:47 PM Eagal
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* ValuesResonance: With stories of police brutality, such as the deaths of Freddie Grey and Michael Brown, coming out everyday, this movie is even more relevant in the dialogue on racism.

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* ValuesResonance: With stories of police brutality, such as the deaths of Freddie Grey and Michael Brown, brutality coming out everyday, this movie is even more relevant in the dialogue on racism.
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