History YMMV / AmericanDad

13th Apr '18 10:37:41 PM Vir
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** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter" (fantasizing about Scarlett ''to his wife Francine''[[note]]At one point he asks Scarlett '''"Ever wish someone you know would die?"''', clearly referring to Francine[[/note]] and sets Roger up to be killed for dating her, only to learn that she she was just using him to capture Roger), "Old Stan in the Mountain" (gets cursed into old age after showing NoSympathy to the elderly, and becomes so disillusioned that he brutally stabs Hayley & Steve when he believes they're gonna kill him) and "The Mural of the Story" (lets Hayley take the blame and become a pariah for his own mess up of a mural, then goes as far as '''''FLAYING HAYLEY'S FACE''''' to make her unrecognizable just to avoid admitting guilt. Also manages to suffer no repercussions for any of his actions when he finally does own up) to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.

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** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter" (fantasizing about Scarlett ''to his wife Francine''[[note]]At one point he asks Scarlett '''"Ever wish someone you know would die?"''', clearly referring to Francine[[/note]] and sets Roger up to be killed for dating her, only to learn that she she was just using him to capture Roger), "Old Stan in the Mountain" (gets cursed into old age after showing NoSympathy to the elderly, and becomes so disillusioned that he brutally stabs Hayley & Steve when he believes they're gonna kill him) and "The Mural of the Story" (lets Hayley take the blame and become a pariah for his own mess up mess-up of a mural, then goes as far as '''''FLAYING HAYLEY'S FACE''''' to make her unrecognizable just to avoid admitting guilt. Also manages to suffer no repercussions for any of his actions when he finally does own up) to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.
13th Apr '18 10:36:31 PM Vir
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** Stan for putting his family through poverty (leading to things like Hayley selling her body for money) in "Failure is Not a Factory-Installed Option" just so that he could one-up a cars salesman who had scammed him several times before. And if people were actually still able to somehow view him in a positive light after that episode, then they for sure will never view him the same away again after "The Mural of the Story" (see UnintentionallyUnsympathetic).

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** Stan for putting his family through poverty (leading to things like Hayley selling her body for money) in "Failure is Not a Factory-Installed Option" just so that he could one-up a cars car salesman who had scammed him several times before. And if people were actually still able to somehow view him in a positive light after that episode, then they for sure will never view him the same away way again after "The Mural of the Story" (see UnintentionallyUnsympathetic).
13th Apr '18 10:35:36 PM Vir
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* InternetBackdraft: The infamous [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfTzRpizw4 facial reconstruction scene from "The Mural of the Story"]] which was first shown at the 2017 San Diego Comic-Con. Even before fans learned that the episode that it came from was just as horribly repugnant and mean-spirited, that scene alone convinced quite a number of them that the show was more or less officially dead and could never go back to it's pre-TBS days.

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* InternetBackdraft: The infamous [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfTzRpizw4 facial reconstruction scene from "The Mural of the Story"]] which was first shown at the 2017 San Diego Comic-Con. Even before fans learned that the episode that it came from was just as horribly repugnant and mean-spirited, that scene alone convinced quite a number of them that the show was more or less officially dead and could never go back to it's its pre-TBS days.
12th Apr '18 6:15:17 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** Stan for putting his family through poverty (leading to things like Hayley selling her body for money) just so that he could one-up a cars salesman who had scammed him several times before.

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** Stan for putting his family through poverty (leading to things like Hayley selling her body for money) in "Failure is Not a Factory-Installed Option" just so that he could one-up a cars salesman who had scammed him several times before.before. And if people were actually still able to somehow view him in a positive light after that episode, then they for sure will never view him the same away again after "The Mural of the Story" (see UnintentionallyUnsympathetic).



** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter" (fantasizing about Scarlett ''to his wife Francine'' and trying to kill Roger for dating her, only to learn that she she was just using him to capture Roger), "Old Stan in the Mountain" (gets cursed into old age after showing NoSympathy to the elderly) and "The Mural of the Story" (lets Hayley take the blame and become a pariah for his own mess up of a mural, then goes as far as disfiguring Hayley to make her unrecognizable just to avoid admitting guilt) to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.

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** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter" (fantasizing about Scarlett ''to his wife Francine'' Francine''[[note]]At one point he asks Scarlett '''"Ever wish someone you know would die?"''', clearly referring to Francine[[/note]] and trying to kill sets Roger up to be killed for dating her, only to learn that she she was just using him to capture Roger), "Old Stan in the Mountain" (gets cursed into old age after showing NoSympathy to the elderly) elderly, and becomes so disillusioned that he brutally stabs Hayley & Steve when he believes they're gonna kill him) and "The Mural of the Story" (lets Hayley take the blame and become a pariah for his own mess up of a mural, then goes as far as disfiguring Hayley '''''FLAYING HAYLEY'S FACE''''' to make her unrecognizable just to avoid admitting guilt) guilt. Also manages to suffer no repercussions for any of his actions when he finally does own up) to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.
11th Apr '18 6:44:33 PM KOman
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** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter", "Old Stan in the Mountain" and "The Mural of the Story" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.

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** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter", Getter" (fantasizing about Scarlett ''to his wife Francine'' and trying to kill Roger for dating her, only to learn that she she was just using him to capture Roger), "Old Stan in the Mountain" (gets cursed into old age after showing NoSympathy to the elderly) and "The Mural of the Story" (lets Hayley take the blame and become a pariah for his own mess up of a mural, then goes as far as disfiguring Hayley to make her unrecognizable just to avoid admitting guilt) to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.
17th Mar '18 1:38:39 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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* InternetBackdraft: The infamous [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfTzRpizw4 facial reconstruction scene from "The Mural of the Story"]] which was first shown at the 2017 San Diego Comic-Con. Even before fans learned that the episode that it came from was just as horribly repugnant and mean-spirited, that scene alone convinced quite a number of them that the show was more or less officially dead and could never go back to it's pre-TBS days.
6th Mar '18 6:03:40 PM Vir
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** Stan acomes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter", "Old Stan in the Mountain" and "The Mural of the Story" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.

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** Stan acomes comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter", "Old Stan in the Mountain" and "The Mural of the Story" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.
6th Mar '18 9:09:04 AM Vir
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** Stan also comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter", "Old Stan in the Mountain" and "The Mural of the Story" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.

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** Stan also comes acomes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter", "Old Stan in the Mountain" and "The Mural of the Story" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.
6th Mar '18 5:07:05 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** Some low-key examples of this trope include "Stan's Best Friend", "The Boring Identity", "Da Flippity Flop", "Familyland", "CIAPOW", "The Life Aquatic of Steve Smith", "Anchorfran", "The Unincludeds" and "Fight and Flight" which some viewers have described as feeling like episodes rejected from ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' with the Smiths in place of the Griffins.

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** Some low-key examples of this trope include "Stan's Best Friend", "The Boring Identity", "Da Flippity Flop", "Familyland", "CIAPOW", "The Life Aquatic of Steve Smith", "Anchorfran", "The Unincludeds" and Unincludeds", "Fight and Flight" and "The Mural of the Story" which some viewers have described as feeling like episodes rejected from ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' with the Smiths in place of the Griffins.



** Despite being the shining example for the trope below, there are times where even Stan himself is guilty of this. Episodes like "Dope and Faith", "The Scarlett Getter", "Seizures Suit Stanny" and "Father's Daze" are great examples of episodes where he comes off as more of an actual villain than the hero that the show wants him to be.

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** Despite being the shining example for the trope below, there are times where even Stan himself is guilty of this. Episodes like "Dope and Faith", "The Scarlett Getter", "Seizures Suit Stanny" and Stanny", "Father's Daze" and "The Mural of the Story" are great examples of episodes where he comes off as more of an actual villain than the hero that the show episode wants him to be.be (especially with the last three examples).



** Stan comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter" and "Old Stan in the Mountain" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.

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** Stan also comes across as this in many episodes of the later seasons for how he treats his family (especially Hayley and Steve) as well as causing his own problems only to learn a lesson that [[AesopAmnesia he will immediately forget]] [[StatusQuoisGod by the following episode]]. "The Scarlett Getter" and Getter", "Old Stan in the Mountain" and "The Mural of the Story" to name a few are prime examples of this trope in action. Another reason is that [[TookALevelInDumbass he gets stupider every season]] to the point where by Season 10, he is simply another Peter Griffin.
27th Feb '18 10:42:37 AM Jibberz
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** Some view the Jeff's in space/is part alien arc that was dragged out over the course of about four seasons (which amounted to nearly four years in real life) as this. It didn't help that it was only focused on at least once per season (a total of three episodes overall) and that it initially resolved in Season 11's "Holy Shit, Jeff's Back!" via reset button where all the characters (barring Roger, who caused the whole thing to begin with yet [[KarmaHoudini suffered no punishment]]) would forget the events of the entire thing making it feel completely pointless. Out of nowhere, the fact that Jeff is now part alien abruptly comes back at the end of Season 13's "Bahama Mama" after being forgotten about for nearly a year and a half only for the next episode "Roger's Baby" to finally resolve the entire plot for good by having Jeff becoming fully human again once again reinforcing just how pointless the entire Jeff's in space/is part alien plot turned out to be.

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** Some view the Jeff's The "Jeff in space/is part alien space" arc that was dragged out across several seasons, lasting over several years, and most of the course of about four seasons (which amounted to nearly four years in real life) as this. It didn't help that it was only focused on at least once per season (a total of three episodes overall) and that it initially resolved in Season 11's "Holy Shit, Jeff's Back!" via reset button where post-Jeff's ADayInTheLimeLight were dedicated to putting the ResetButton on all the characters (barring Roger, who caused the whole thing to begin with yet [[KarmaHoudini suffered no punishment]]) would forget the events of the entire thing it's plotpoints, making it feel completely pointless. Out of nowhere, the fact that Jeff is now part alien abruptly comes back at the end of Season 13's "Bahama Mama" after being forgotten about for nearly a year and a half only for the next episode "Roger's Baby" rather tiresome to finally resolve the entire plot for good by having Jeff becoming fully human again once again reinforcing just how pointless the entire Jeff's in space/is part alien plot turned out to be.many.



** ''Roger'' appears to be this in the later episodes. If he's not the main focus of the episode, he'll still manage to play a huge part in it. However, unlike the majority of other offenders of this trope, most fans don't seem to mind (key word: [[BaseBreakingCharacter Most]]).



* FanonDiscontinuity:
** Similar to ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', a lot of fans ignore the show's post-cancellation seasons after it moved from FOX to TBS due to things like Mike Barker's departure as well as a lot of the show's clever writing and wit seemingly replaced by lame attempts to be "Edgy" which mostly boils down to the forced uncensored usage of the word "Shit" at least once every episode.
** A very small group of fans go as far as to say that they don't consider anything past either the 3rd or 4th seasons as canon as they feel like these were the last two seasons where the show actually seemed to have its own identity and not just feel like a ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' clone like the later seasons tend to (especially the TBS ones).



* GrowingTheBeard - Midway through season one, after the ''Stan of Arabia'' two-parter. When it first started, a lot of people thought the show was okay (while some wrote it off as a ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' knock off -- or a knock-off of a knock-off, if they were diehard ''Simpsons'' fans who thought shows like ''Family Guy'' were weakening ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''), but starting with the ''Stan of Arabia'' two-parter, the show got better in both animation and humor... At least until the show was [[ChannelHop cancelled by FOX and resurrected by TBS]] where a lot of fans agree that the show officially entered into SeasonalRot if it didn't already for reasons already stated on this very page.

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* GrowingTheBeard - Midway through season one, after the ''Stan of Arabia'' two-parter. When it first started, a lot of people thought the show was okay (while some wrote it off as a ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' knock off -- or a knock-off of a knock-off, if they were diehard ''Simpsons'' fans who thought shows like ''Family Guy'' were weakening ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''), but starting with the ''Stan of Arabia'' two-parter, the show got better in both animation and humor... At least until the show was [[ChannelHop cancelled by FOX and resurrected by TBS]] where a lot of fans agree that the show officially entered into SeasonalRot if it didn't already for reasons already stated on this very page.humor.
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