History YMMV / AmericanDad

15th Nov '17 4:14:20 PM BatmanKalEl
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Though it's not WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, the show tends to abuse AesopAmnesia (especially in later seasons). It makes the characters look like they're just pretending to learn their lesson so that they can get away with everything they did in the episode. Nearly every character has some ulterior motive to get what they want and when they're called out on it, they just apologize and are EasilyForgiven.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Though it's not WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', the show tends to abuse AesopAmnesia (especially in later seasons). It makes the characters look like they're just pretending to learn their lesson so that they can get away with everything they did in the episode. Nearly every character has some ulterior motive to get what they want and when they're called out on it, they just apologize and are EasilyForgiven.
14th Oct '17 12:02:02 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** Steve. He's pretty much a stereotypical horny teenage virgin nerd, whose {{Flanderization}} in the 9th season has him often acting like an obnoxious brat to his parents. Also, the audience is tired of the regular DidNotGetTheGirl gag.

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** Steve. He's pretty much a stereotypical horny teenage virgin nerd, whose {{Flanderization}} in Steve fell victim to this around the 9th season has him often acting like an obnoxious brat to his parents. Also, time of the final FOX season/beginning of the TBS era when the audience is started getting tired of the his regular DidNotGetTheGirl gag.gag and WellDoneSonGuy plots as well as going through {{Flanderization}} by becoming a completely bratty pervert.



** Steve has fallen victim to this as of late due to his {{Flanderization}} making him a very obnoxious brat who canít seem to tell reality from fantasy making him a danger both to himself and others due to either ignoring the dangers around him or dishing out DisproportionateRetribution. His stereotypical horny teenage virgin nerd also getís old fast given that Stan has gone through all he has and more UpToEleven so itís hard to feel for Steve for being bullied for a day because of a back brace or not being able to run the house for a couple of months when Stan was horrifically bullied his entire school life and had to take care of his mother his entire life.

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** Steve has fallen victim to this as of late due to his {{Flanderization}} making him a very obnoxious brat obnoxiously bratty pervert who canít seem to tell reality from fantasy making him a danger both to himself and others due to either ignoring the dangers around him or dishing out DisproportionateRetribution. His stereotypical horny teenage virgin nerd recurring DidNotGetTheGirl and WellDoneSonGuy storylines also getís get very old fast given that Stan has gone through all he has and more UpToEleven so itís hard due to feel for Steve for the ResetButton being bullied for a day because of a back brace or not being able to run pressed '''every.''' '''Single.''' '''Time.''' at the house for a couple end of months when Stan was horrifically bullied his entire school life and had to take care of his mother his entire life. these episodes making them feel entirely pointless.
10th Oct '17 8:18:24 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** The entirety of "Kloger", more or less. The episode is about Klaus & Roger being in a secret relationship which shows us the aftermath of them having sex after deciding to hook up as well as a montage of them making out in various cringe inducing ways. It's even worse when you realize that while not directly related, they are still family so it does technically counts as '''incest'''! Other moments throughout the episode to qualify it for this trope come from the subplot which includes Hayley having pink eye which only worsens and gets more disgusting looking as the episode goes on and Steve literally '''''shitting his pants''''' in order to get out of his school's fitness test. It's because of this that some fans deem it one of the worst episodes of the whole series (if not, the worst).

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** The entirety of "Kloger", more or less. The episode is about Klaus & Roger being in a secret relationship which shows us the aftermath of them having sex after deciding to hook up as well as a montage of them making out in various cringe inducing ways. It's even worse when you realize that while not directly related, they are still family so it does technically counts as '''incest'''! Other moments throughout the episode to qualify it for this trope come from There's also the subplot which includes Hayley having is about Steve wanting to get out his school's fitness test by trying to catch Hayley's pink eye which (which only worsens and gets more disgusting looking as the episode goes on on), and Steve ultimately succeeds in doing so by literally '''''shitting his pants''''' in order to get out of his school's fitness test. pants'''''! It's because of this no surprise that some fans deem it one of the worst episodes of the whole series (if not, the worst).
1st Oct '17 9:10:31 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** Stan has at least four definitive moments that counts as this depending on who you ask:

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** Stan also has a tendency to cross this at least once a season, but so far has at least four five definitive moments that counts as this depending on who you ask:


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*** "Seizure Suit Stanny", the finale for Season 11 is arguably one of Stan's worst episodes for this reason. It starts with him insisting that there will be no more texting in the family due to Hayley's habit of texting while driving. Later, his friends at the CIA show him that texting is fun through it's usage of emojis and he soon becomes addicted to it while [[{{Hypocrite}} still continuing to rail against Hayley for her habit of texting]]. Eventually, he gets distracted while texting and drives himself off a bridge. In order to cover up what happened he lies to his family by saying that the accident was due to him having a seizure (though Klaus is very quick to call his bluff) thus putting him on prescribed meds that he doesn't need. However, it's discovered that Jeff received the text message that drove him off the bridge the first time which causes Stan to drive off the bridge once again with the two of them in it and this time blaming the accident on Jeff texting while driving. After initially trying to destroy the cell phone mainframe due [[ItMakesSenseInContext his seizure meds causing him to hallucinate his kneecap telling him to kill Jeff]], he gets a message from Hayley telling him that Jeff woke up from his coma and he races to the hospital to '''''KILL''''' him for the sake of keeping his secret. What ultimately stops him from going through with this is that he crashes the car through a wall and crushes Hayley forcing him to confess what he did. In actuality, Hayley is unscratched and what Stan actually crashed into was a soda machine full of Poweraid. An episode like this as well as the previous examples listed above definitely make it hard to consider Stan to be a sympathetic character afterwards.
27th Sep '17 6:22:28 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Roger (and Klaus to a lesser extent) is either hilarious or annoying. Later seasons don't do him much favors.

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Roger (and Klaus to a lesser extent) is either hilarious or annoying. Later His {{Flanderization}} and oversaturation in later seasons don't do him much favors.
27th Sep '17 9:33:53 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Part of why some fans hated "Family Plan" was due to the episode abruptly throwing away it's original plot of Francine reconnecting with her birth family the Dawsons for Nicholas (her birth father) ordering everyone in the family to fight each other to the death essentially turning the last act into a gorier rehash of "Familyland".

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Part of why some fans hated "Family Plan" was due to the episode abruptly throwing away it's original plot of Francine reconnecting with her birth family the Dawsons for Nicholas (her birth father) ordering everyone in the family to fight each other to the death essentially turning the last act into a gorier rehash of "Familyland".
27th Sep '17 9:32:28 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Part of why some fans hated "Family Plan" was due to the episode abruptly throwing away it's original plot of Francine reconnecting with her birth family the Dawsons for Nicholas (her birth father) ordering everyone in the family to fight each other to the death essentially turning the last act into a gorier rehash of "Familyland".
25th Sep '17 4:12:18 PM PStriderFan
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**You'll either find Steve an {{Adorkable}} nerd who idolizes his father or an unsympathetic pervert and inconsiderate brat ([[{{Flanderization}} in later seasons anyway]]).
22nd Sep '17 3:01:06 PM DustSnitch
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** Season 11 (the TBS episodes from "Blonde Ambition" to "Seizures Suit Stanny") disappointed a number of fans. For starters, show runner Mike Barker left the series about five episodes into its production due to creative differences and watching later episodes (such as the infamous "American Fung") would make it easy to understand why. By this point in the show's run, roughly 90% of the show's original writers have either left or been laid off resulting in most of this season's writers being newcomers with ''little to no previous work'' in television (and it clearly shows). Many of the season's subplots consist of 2-3 brief scenes that barely go on longer than half a minute, making most of them clock in just barely over a minute, wasting time that could've been used for the episode's main plot. Stan's character has taken a massive blow as he's gone from being a slightly more intelligent version of [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Peter Griffin]] to an out-and-out clone of him to the point of being just as (if not more) mentally retarded as the former. Lastly, Roger continues to be heavily oversaturated to the point where even some of his fans feel a few of his appearances this season were forced while more characters (such as Greg & Terry, the latter of which is now TheVoiceless since Mike Barker left) join the ever-growing club of [[DemotedToExtra once notable supporting characters getting the shaft]].

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** Season 11 (the TBS episodes from "Blonde Ambition" to "Seizures Suit Stanny") disappointed a number of fans. For starters, show runner Mike Barker left the series about five episodes into its production due to creative differences and watching later episodes (such as the infamous "American Fung") would make it easy to understand why. By this point in the show's run, roughly 90% of the show's original writers have either left or been laid off resulting in most of this season's writers being newcomers with ''little to no previous work'' in television (and it clearly shows). Many of the season's subplots consist of 2-3 brief scenes that barely go on longer than half a minute, making most of them clock in just barely over a minute, wasting time that could've been used for the episode's main plot. Stan's character has taken a massive blow as he's gone from being a slightly more intelligent version of [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Peter Griffin]] to an out-and-out clone of him to the point of being just as (if not more) mentally retarded as the former. Lastly, Roger continues to be heavily oversaturated to the point where even some of his fans feel a few of his appearances this season were forced while more characters (such as Greg & Terry, the latter of which is now TheVoiceless has gotten no lines since Mike Barker left) join the ever-growing club of [[DemotedToExtra once notable supporting characters getting the shaft]].
16th Sep '17 4:49:41 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** Season 12 (the TBS episodes from "Roots" to "Standard Deviation") is met with a BrokenBase: while there are some who consider it an improvement over the previous season, due to more creativity to its plots, as well as some episodes that restore its characters to their pre-Flanderized selves, others see it as further evidence that the show was better off staying dead after FOX cancelled it. The uncensored usage of the word "Shit" comes across as very forced and feels like they're doing it only because they can. While the subplots for the most part are longer, they still continue to feel pointless and waste time that could've been used to develop the main plot further. Stan still continues to behave like Peter Griffin and now Francine actually gives Lois a run for her money in terms of how bitchy she can be (primarily in episodes that don't have her as the main focus). There appears to be a back-handed mean spiritedness directed at Mike Barker for leaving the series in the previous season as two of his characters (Terry Bates & John Sanders) are written out in very unceremonious manners (the former being PutOnABus and the latter being KilledOffForReal, both of which occur off-screen). And finally, a prime example to show that the people working on the series don't seem to care anymore is the "Daesong Heavy Industries" two-parter which as it's already been mentioned is a two-part episode where both episodes don't even end up having anything to do with each other.[[note]]Part I is especially hated, with many fans comparing it unfavorably to the ''Family Guy'' episodes that are anti-religion which includes "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" (one of the most hated episode in the show's history, if not [[Creator/SethMacFarlane MacFarlane's]] career), not helped is how the episode is written by the same person who wrote the previous season's infamous "American Fung".[[/note]]
** Season 13 (the TBS episodes from "Father's Daze" through "West to Mexico") created yet another BrokenBase: Some consider it to be the best of the TBS era, some consider it an improvement over the previous while still considering it terrible and some believe that it's the worst one yet and further proof that the show needs to just call it quits by this point. Besides the normal issues fans have with the TBS seasons, this one creates a few of it's own. For starters, several episodes are flat-out rip-offs of ones from competing shows ("Father's Daze" and "Roger's Baby" ripping off "April in Quahog" and "Stewie is Enceinte" respectively from ''Family Guy'' and "Bazooka Steve" ripping off "Boys of Bummer" from ''The Simpsons'') that in some cases somehow actually succeed in being ''worse'' than the episodes they're ripping off! There would often be long gaps of time between episodes where 3-4 would air before going on a month long hiatus resulting in the entire season being dragged out for ''nearly a year'' (November 2016 through September 2017)! While the idea of having Roger's focus on the main stories being scaled back was a good idea in concept, it backfired due to the show forcibly having many of the episode's subplots (which like most of the subplots from the TBS era, continue to feel pointless) centered about him with such examples being his lifeguard subplot from "Bahama Mama" and the one from "Casino Normale" about him getting revenge on Jay Leno for what turned out to be a misunderstanding. And lastly, just like with the 2011-2012 season, besides the lame attempts to be "Edgy" (which again, mostly boils down to the forced uncensored utterances of "Shit!") most of the show's humor has been replaced by bizarre moments (such as the culture vultures bit from "The Enlightenment of Ragi-Baba" and the already mentioned "All Art is Gay!" sequence from "The Portrait of Francine's Genitals") and needlessly over-the-top gore that further demonstrates that the show has ultimately turned into what it was originally accused of being back in it's early days: A ''Family Guy'' clone.

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** Season 12 (the TBS episodes from "Roots" to "Standard Deviation") is met with a BrokenBase: while there are some who consider it an improvement over the previous season, due to more creativity to its plots, as well as some episodes that restore its characters to their pre-Flanderized selves, others see it as further evidence that the show was better off staying dead after FOX cancelled it. The uncensored usage of the word "Shit" comes across as very forced and feels like they're doing it only because they can. While the subplots for the most part are longer, they still continue to feel pointless and waste time that could've been used to develop the main plot further. Stan still continues to behave like Peter Griffin and now Francine actually gives Lois a run for her money in terms of how bitchy she can be (primarily in episodes that don't have her as the main focus). There With this being the first full season to air since Mike Barker left the series, it's very obvious that the show struggles to continue without him as many of the episodes feel half-hearted in terms of their storytelling and lack most of the wit/humor that the show is known for. Speaking of Barker, there also appears to be a back-handed mean spiritedness directed at Mike Barker him for leaving the series in the previous season as two of his characters (Terry Bates & John Sanders) are written out in very unceremonious manners (the former being PutOnABus off-screen and the latter being KilledOffForReal, both of which occur off-screen).KilledOffScreen). And finally, a prime example to show that the people working on the series don't seem to care anymore is the "Daesong Heavy Industries" two-parter which as it's already been mentioned is a two-part episode where both episodes don't even end up having anything to do with each other.[[note]]Part I is especially hated, with many fans comparing it unfavorably to the ''Family Guy'' episodes that are anti-religion which includes "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" (one of the most hated episode in the show's history, if not [[Creator/SethMacFarlane MacFarlane's]] career), not helped is how the episode is written by the same person who wrote the previous season's infamous "American Fung".[[/note]]
** Season 13 (the TBS episodes from "Father's Daze" through "West to Mexico") created yet another BrokenBase: Some consider it to be the best of the TBS era, some consider it an improvement over the previous while (even if they still considering consider it terrible terrible) and some believe that it's either just as bad as the previous season or the worst one yet and further proof that the show needs to just call it quits by this point. Besides the normal issues fans have with the TBS seasons, seasons (many episodes having an overall lack of effort in terms of storytelling and humor/wit, subplots that are completely irrelevant due to their short lengths, certain characters like Stan and Francine being further Flanderized into complete shells of their former selves, etc.) this one creates a few of it's own. For starters, several episodes are flat-out rip-offs of ones from competing shows ("Father's Daze" and "Roger's Baby" ripping off "April in Quahog" and "Stewie is Enceinte" respectively from ''Family Guy'' and "Bazooka Steve" ripping off "Boys of Bummer" from ''The Simpsons'') that in some cases somehow actually succeed in being ''worse'' than the episodes they're ripping off! There would often be long gaps of time between episodes where 3-4 would air before going on a month long hiatus resulting in the entire season being dragged out for ''nearly a year'' (November 2016 through September 2017)! While the idea of having Roger's focus on the main stories being scaled back was a good idea in concept, it backfired due to the show forcibly having many of the episode's season's subplots (which like most of the subplots from the TBS era, continue to feel pointless) centered about him with such examples being his lifeguard subplot from "Bahama Mama" and the one from "Casino Normale" about him getting revenge on Jay Leno for what turned out to be a misunderstanding. And lastly, just like with the 2011-2012 season, besides the lame attempts to be "Edgy" (which again, mostly boils down to the forced uncensored utterances of "Shit!") most of the show's humor has been replaced by bizarre moments (such as the culture vultures bit from "The Enlightenment of Ragi-Baba" and the already mentioned "All Art is Gay!" sequence from "The Portrait of Francine's Genitals") and needlessly over-the-top gore that further demonstrates that the show has ultimately turned into what it was originally accused of being back in it's early days: A ''Family Guy'' clone.
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