History YMMV / AlienVsPredator

9th Sep '17 10:35:43 AM DukeNukem4ever
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* JerkassWoobie: Dunya in ''AVP2''.

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* JerkassWoobie: Dunya in ''AVP2''.''AVP 2''.
9th Sep '17 10:35:23 AM DukeNukem4ever
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* JerkassWoobie: Dunya in ''AVP2''.
4th Sep '17 8:11:41 PM PaulA
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* SpiritualAdaptation: Before ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' came along, the first ''[=AvP=]'' film was possibly the nearest thing to Creator/HPLovecraft's ''At the Mountains of Madness'' we had in modern cinema.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: Before ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' came along, the first ''[=AvP=]'' film was possibly the nearest thing to Creator/HPLovecraft's ''At the Mountains of Madness'' ''Literature/AtTheMountainsOfMadness'' we had in modern cinema.
26th Aug '17 1:32:59 PM RagingHigher
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Given that Predators don't talk nor emote very much, we don't know what were Scar's thoughts after being subdued and impregnated by a Facehugger. If he knew there was a Chestburster inside of him (which he should have known very obviously upon waking up, specially after finding the damn thing dead next to him), he might have been expecting to end the hunt and reach his mothership in time to get it extracted from him, or he might have been playing straight the ZombieInfectee and denying it to himself or just pushing to postpone the inevitable outcome.
* BadassDecay: Contrarily to popular belief, the Predators themselves don't get the longer end of the stick in terms of power. Out of the three who appear in the movie, the first is killed without doing a single kill, the second goes down against the same Alien who killed his buddy, and the third one never wins a hand-to-hand fight, only excepting an instance in which he surprises a drone which believed it was going to surprise him.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Given that Predators don't talk nor emote very much, we don't know what were Scar's thoughts after being subdued and impregnated by a Facehugger. If he knew there was a Chestburster inside of him (which he should have known very obviously upon waking up, specially after finding the damn thing dead next to him), he might have been expecting to end the hunt and reach his mothership in time to get it extracted from him, extracted, or he might have been playing straight the ZombieInfectee and denying it to himself or just pushing to postpone the inevitable outcome.
* BadassDecay: Contrarily to popular belief, the Predators themselves don't and not Aliens are the ones that get the longer end of the stick watered down in terms of power. this adaptation. Out of the three who appear in the movie, the first is killed without doing a single kill, the second goes down against the same Alien who killed his buddy, and the third one never wins a hand-to-hand fight, only fight excepting an instance one entirely consistent in which he surprises a drone which believed it was going to surprise him.chop.



* CriticalBacklash: There are actually many people who feel the movie, while nothing to write home about, still is 'at least fairly okay and in any case doesn't really deserve the hatred it gets ([[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]] notably briefly referenced it in his Shining Mini-Series review as "decent", and later gave a full review where he stated that while not perfect, the movie still did do a lot of things right and was enjoyable). The ''second'' one, on the other hand, is almost universally despised.

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* CriticalBacklash: There are actually many people who feel the movie, while nothing to write home about, still is 'at at least fairly okay decent and in any case doesn't really deserve the hatred it gets ([[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]] notably briefly referenced it in his Shining Mini-Series review as "decent", and later gave a full review where he stated that while not perfect, the movie still did do a lot of things right and was enjoyable). The ''second'' one, on the other hand, is almost universally despised.



* HesJustHiding: Some people believe that the Alien Queen might perfectly have survived to her fate, as it was simply being dragged to the bottom of the sea by a chain when ''Film/AlienResurrection'' had established that Xenomorphs can adapt to water apparently without any trouble.

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* HesJustHiding: Some people believe that the Alien Queen might perfectly have survived to her fate, as it was simply being dragged to the bottom of the sea by a chain when despite ''Film/AlienResurrection'' had established that Xenomorphs can adapt to water apparently underwater without any trouble.



* IdiotPlot: The main characters repeatedly express concern over the Aliens reaching the surface. Uh, why? Considering they are in ANTARCTICA, even if the Aliens reach the surface, there is no one for them to attack and they will likely freeze to death.

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* IdiotPlot: HypocriticalFandom: The main human characters repeatedly express concern over of the Aliens reaching film were criticized for being bland, cliched and/or uninteresting. This complain could be considered ''Alien'''s FranchiseOriginalSin, as its films's human casts beyond Ripley are typically a hot point of complain and it reaches quite caustic levels in installments like the surface. Uh, why? Considering they ever loved ''Film/{{Aliens}}'' (whose colonial marines are in ANTARCTICA, even if infamous for being TooDumbToLive) and the Aliens reach the surface, there is no one for comparatively liked ''Film/{{Alien3}}'' (where barely any of them manages to attack and they will likely freeze be sympathetic). In another layer of discussion, the character cliches used in this film are precisely the ones popularized by ''Alien'' itself, namely the "generic, MegaCorp-founded expedition members who happen to death. be epically bad at decision-making".



* SignatureScene: Nothing represents more this saga than the visual contraposition of a stern Predator mask and a slavering Alien head, which happens several times through the two movies. It was actually used for the first's poster.

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* SignatureScene: Nothing represents more better this saga than the visual contraposition of a stern Predator mask and a slavering Alien head, which happens several times through the two movies. It was actually used for the first's poster.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the original script for the movie, after Scar is impaled by the Alien Queen, he tries to stab himself with his dagger to take the Chestburster inside of his body with him, not without speaking for the first and last time to tell Lex her earlier line of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Pretty much anybody who knows this fact agrees that it would have been brilliant to see in the final film.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the original script for the movie, after Scar is impaled by the Alien Queen, he tries to stab himself with his dagger to take the Chestburster inside of his body with him, not without speaking for the first and last time to tell Lex her earlier line of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Pretty much anybody Everybody who knows this fact agrees that it would have been brilliant to see in the final film.
26th Aug '17 8:04:00 AM GarlicOverlord
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* AdaptationDisplacement: There are a good amount of people who are unaware that the movie was based on a [[ComicBook/AliensVsPredator comic book series]]. There are also those who are aware the comics exist, but assume that they were based around the Xenomorph skull easter egg in Film/Predator2.
25th Aug '17 1:50:16 PM b3900
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* IdiotPlot: The main characters repeatedly express concern over the Aliens reaching the surface. Uh, why? Considering they are in ANTARCTICA, even if the Aliens reach the surface, there is no one for them to attack and they will likely freeze to death.
22nd Aug '17 2:06:04 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The AVP games, particularly the first two, are extremely well-liked FPS games making great use of both franchises' settings and making their alien antagonists and the Colonial Marines function extremely well in gameplay terms. Even the third, which is considered a weak game, got better reception than ''VideoGame/AliensColonialMarines'' did. The UsefulNotes/AtariJaguar release is notably considered one of, if not ''the'' best games to come out for the ill-fated console.

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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The AVP games, particularly the first two, are extremely well-liked FPS games making great use of both franchises' settings and making their alien antagonists and the Colonial Marines function extremely well in gameplay terms. Even the third, which is considered a weak game, got better reception than ''VideoGame/AliensColonialMarines'' did. The UsefulNotes/AtariJaguar release game is notably considered one of, if of the best (if not ''the'' best games best) to come out for the ill-fated console.
22nd Aug '17 2:01:51 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The AVP games, particularly the first two, are extremely well-liked FPS games making great use of both franchises' settings and making their alien antagonists and the Colonial Marines function extremely well in gameplay terms. Even the third, which is considered a weak game, got better reception than ''VideoGame/AliensColonialMarines'' did.

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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The AVP games, particularly the first two, are extremely well-liked FPS games making great use of both franchises' settings and making their alien antagonists and the Colonial Marines function extremely well in gameplay terms. Even the third, which is considered a weak game, got better reception than ''VideoGame/AliensColonialMarines'' did. The UsefulNotes/AtariJaguar release is notably considered one of, if not ''the'' best games to come out for the ill-fated console.
11th Jun '17 11:42:01 AM RagingHigher
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* SpiritualAdaptation: Before ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' came along, the first ''[=AvP=]'' film was possibly the nearest thing to Creator/HPLovecraft's ''At the Mountains of Madness'' we could have in modern cinema.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: Before ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' came along, the first ''[=AvP=]'' film was possibly the nearest thing to Creator/HPLovecraft's ''At the Mountains of Madness'' we could have had in modern cinema.




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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Regardless of the opinions about the film itself, the visual effects used to portray the Xenomorphs (especially the Queen) are still considered some of the best of the entire ''Alien'' franchise.
9th Jun '17 11:14:20 AM Theokal3
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* CriticalBacklash: There are actually many people who feel the movie, while nothing to write home about, still is 'at least fairly okay and in any case doesn't really deserve the hatred it gets ([[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]] notably briefly referenced it in his Shining Mini-Series review as "decent"). The ''second'' one, on the other hand, is almost universally despised.

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* CriticalBacklash: There are actually many people who feel the movie, while nothing to write home about, still is 'at least fairly okay and in any case doesn't really deserve the hatred it gets ([[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]] notably briefly referenced it in his Shining Mini-Series review as "decent")."decent", and later gave a full review where he stated that while not perfect, the movie still did do a lot of things right and was enjoyable). The ''second'' one, on the other hand, is almost universally despised.
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