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*** [[spoiler: And then Mallory was murdered herself.]]



** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility'' [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.]] [[spoiler: Though the untrustworthy guy, at least, might've been innocent.]]

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** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility'' [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.]] [[spoiler: Though the untrustworthy guy, at least, might've been innocent.]] [[spoiler: And Mallory probably was too, but was later murdered.]]

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** The ones running Kuma-Kuma Land [[spoiler: crossed it at the very beginning by trapping one hundred potential students on a roller coaster and ejecting them out of their seats, at random, to their deaths. They were responsible for the deaths of eighty people, and had no qualms with trying to eject [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Annabelle Lupin]], ''[[WouldHurtAChild a nine-year old child]]''!]]

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** The ones running Kuma-Kuma Land [[spoiler: crossed it at the very beginning by trapping one hundred potential students on a roller coaster and ejecting them out of their seats, at random, to their deaths. They were responsible for the deaths of eighty people, and had no qualms with trying to eject [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Annabelle Lupin]], Annabelle]], ''[[WouldHurtAChild a nine-year old child]]''!]]child]]''!]]
** [[spoiler: Munakata]] officially crosses it somewhere between [[spoiler: killing Ryota Mitarai]] and [[spoiler: killing Ryoko in front of the rest of the survivors, while planning to subject the rest of them (and probably their hostages as well) to a firing squad]].

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* CompleteMonster: Dr. Jibo Momota, The Ultimate Biologist. A SocialDarwinist who thinks only Ultimates deserve to live, he joined Ultimate Despair (''not'' through being brainwashed) and ended up [[spoiler: experimenting on the members of Class 80-A, without remorse. His [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate resume]] during that time includes cutting teenagers, forcing them to relive traumatic events, lecherously focusing on the girls (to the point of [[DirtyOldMan blatantly staring at Alice's body]] and implying [[SexualExtortion a certain requirement for her to leave his care]]), and sending an adult {{Sadist}} to do [[NothingIsScarier who]]-[[ColtBloodedTorture knows]]-[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what]] to one teenager who HatesBeingTouched.]] All while espousing how morals hold people back and how he'd kill 99% of humanity for the 1% of Ultimates if he had to. [[spoiler: It's heavily implied, though not yet confirmed, that he's the Mastermind of the Tranquility Base Killing Game as well.]]
** Ringo Takagami. A hitman and [[TheSociopath sociopath]], he sees the Killing Game (and indeed, life in general) as just a way of testing/honing his abilities. Uncaring of his fellow classmates, even going so far as to threaten to kill someone immediately when the option to do so and leave is available (only ''not'' doing so because that would end the fun too early and, allegedly, only trying to do so to see if Monokuma would stop him), he makes it clear from the get go he fully intends to win the game on his own time and in his own way. He eventually follows through by rigging traps throughout the station, fully intending to kill everyone indirectly to leave as the SoleSurvivor. [[spoiler: Even before the Killing Game he expressed a desire to hunt his fellow Ultimates on the station.]] And no, he had no DarkAndTroubledPast to explain himself; he just liked using live people as his target practice.

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* CompleteMonster: Dr. Jibo Momota, The Ultimate Biologist. A SocialDarwinist who thinks only Ultimates deserve to live, he joined Ultimate Despair (''not'' through being brainwashed) and ended up [[spoiler: experimenting on the members of Class 80-A, without remorse. His [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate resume]] during that time includes cutting teenagers, forcing them to relive traumatic events, lecherously focusing on the girls (to the point of [[DirtyOldMan blatantly staring at Alice's body]] and implying [[SexualExtortion a certain requirement for her to leave his care]]), and sending an adult {{Sadist}} to do [[NothingIsScarier who]]-[[ColtBloodedTorture knows]]-[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what]] to one teenager who HatesBeingTouched.]] All while espousing how morals hold people back and how he'd kill 99% of humanity for the 1% of Ultimates if he had to. [[spoiler: It's heavily implied, though not yet confirmed, that he's the Mastermind of the Tranquility Base He's currently Masterminding a Killing Game somewhere as well.]]
** Ringo Takagami. A hitman and [[TheSociopath genuine sociopath]], he sees the Killing Game (and indeed, life in general) as just a way of testing/honing his abilities. Uncaring of his fellow classmates, even going so far as to threaten to kill someone immediately when the option to do so and leave is available (only ''not'' doing so because that would end the fun too early and, allegedly, only trying to do so to see if Monokuma would stop him), he makes it clear from the get go he fully intends to win the game on his own time and in his own way. He eventually follows through by rigging traps throughout the station, fully intending to kill everyone indirectly to leave as the SoleSurvivor. [[spoiler: Even before the Killing Game he expressed a desire to hunt his fellow Ultimates on the station.]] And no, he had no DarkAndTroubledPast to explain himself; he just liked using live people as his target practice.



* MoralEventHorizon: The Mastermind of ''A New Hope'' [[spoiler:(Makoto Naegi after a FaceHeelTurn)]] trapped the students of [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 Class 77-B]], [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa 78]] and [[VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 79]] (who had nothing to do with him), including best friends, and forcing them to kill each other no matter how innocent they were. [[spoiler: As well as Junko Enoshima, who was responsible for breaking and corrupting the HopeBringer Makoto [[FallenHero into despair]] in the first place.]]
** In ''Final Horizon'', [[spoiler:Hiyoko crossed it in Chapter 28 when she remorselessly [[YourHeadAsplode detonates Sayaka]] [[FinalDeath to kill her for the last time]] even after trying to redeem her and asking her what Kirumi would think. Hiyoko reasons that she did it because Sayaka was a "square peg in a round hole" and she had [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness already fulfilled her purpose]]. There's also when she blew Akiko and Akiho up in the same way.]]
** In Chapter 19 of ''Sea of Tranquility'', Choko reveals that the aforementioned Jibo Momota experimented on young talentless people ''and even killed them''.
-->"It was due to one of my cases," Choko spoke up as she eyed Misuzu a moment. "This guy was like a grade a nut job. When things started to go south for Hope's Peak, things started to spiral out of control quickly. He was never arraigned but prosecutors wanted to charge him with multiple accounts of child endangerment, unpaid child support, and countless charges for his unethical research. Bodies started turning up left and right in dingy facilities all around Tokyo. Most of these were kids who were desperate and thought he could give them talent. Heck, the guy was like a ghost though. We couldn't even figure out where he lived, let alone what hole he crawled into. I guess this explains why though." She said as a scowl spread across her face.
** The Mastermind of ''Kuma-Kuma Land'' [[spoiler:crossed it for trapping one hundred Ultimates on a roller coaster and ejecting them out of their seats, to their deaths. They were responsible for the deaths of eighty Ultimates, and had no qualms with trying to eject [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Annabelle Lupin]], ''[[WouldHurtAChild a nine-year old child]]''!]]

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* {{Jossed}}: The author was quick to clarify that [[spoiler: the eighty students that died in the first chapter of ''Kuma-Kuma Land'' were ''not'' the unselected OCs that were submitted.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: The [[spoiler: second]] Mastermind of ''A New Hope'' [[spoiler:(Makoto Naegi after a FaceHeelTurn)]] continuing to run the Killing Game against the trapped the students of [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 Class 77-B]], [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa 78]] and [[VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 79]] (who [[spoiler: (the latter of whom had nothing to do with him), including best friends, and him)]], forcing them best friends to kill each other no matter how innocent they were. [[spoiler: As well as To say nothing of when he stabbed his clone for trying to help him and attempted to bury everyone under the collapsing Hope's Peak.]]
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Junko Enoshima, who along with everything else she'd done, was responsible for [[spoiler: breaking and corrupting the HopeBringer Makoto [[FallenHero into despair]] in the first place.]]
** In ''Final Horizon'', [[spoiler:Hiyoko crossed it in Chapter 28 when she remorselessly [[YourHeadAsplode detonates Sayaka]] [[FinalDeath to kill her for the last time]] even after trying to redeem her and asking her what Kirumi would think. Hiyoko reasons that she did it because Sayaka was a "square peg in a round hole" and she had [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness already fulfilled her purpose]]. There's also when she blew Akiko her torture and Akiho up in the same way.abuse of Jun, a ''two year old''.]]
** In Chapter 19 of ''Sea of Tranquility'', Choko reveals that the aforementioned Jibo Momota experimented on young talentless people ''and probably crossed it before he even killed them''.
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was due to one of my cases," Choko spoke up as she eyed Misuzu a moment. "This cases. This guy was like a grade a nut job. When things started to go south for Hope's Peak, things started to spiral out of control quickly. He was never arraigned but prosecutors wanted to charge him with multiple accounts of [[WouldHurtAChild child endangerment, endangerment]], [[DisappearedDad unpaid child support, support]], and countless charges for his [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate unethical research.research]]. Bodies started turning up left and right in dingy facilities all around Tokyo. Most of these were kids who were desperate and thought he could give them talent. Heck, the guy was like a ghost though. We couldn't even figure out where he lived, let alone what hole he crawled into. I guess this explains why though." She said as a scowl spread across her face.
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** The Mastermind of ''Kuma-Kuma Land'' [[spoiler:crossed ones running Kuma-Kuma Land [[spoiler: crossed it for at the very beginning by trapping one hundred Ultimates potential students on a roller coaster and ejecting them out of their seats, at random, to their deaths. They were responsible for the deaths of eighty Ultimates, people, and had no qualms with trying to eject [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Annabelle Lupin]], ''[[WouldHurtAChild a nine-year old child]]''!]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: The Mastermind of ''A New Hope'' [[spoiler:(Makoto Naegi after a FaceHeelTurn)]] trapped the students of [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 Class 77-B]], [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa 78]] and [[VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 79]] (who had nothing to do with him), including best friends, and forcing them to kill each other no matter how innocent they were. [[spoiler: As well as Junko Enoshima, who was responsible for breaking and corrupting the HopeBringer Makoto [[FallenHero into despair]] in the first place.]]
** In ''Final Horizon'', [[spoiler:Hiyoko crossed it in Chapter 28 when she remorselessly [[YourHeadAsplode detonates Sayaka]] [[FinalDeath to kill her for the last time]] even after trying to redeem her and asking her what Kirumi would think. Hiyoko reasons that she did it because Sayaka was a "square peg in a round hole" and she had [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness already fulfilled her purpose]]. There's also when she blew Akiko and Akiho up in the same way.]]
** In Chapter 19 of ''Sea of Tranquility'', Choko reveals that the aforementioned Jibo Momota experimented on young talentless people ''and even killed them''.
-->"It was due to one of my cases," Choko spoke up as she eyed Misuzu a moment. "This guy was like a grade a nut job. When things started to go south for Hope's Peak, things started to spiral out of control quickly. He was never arraigned but prosecutors wanted to charge him with multiple accounts of child endangerment, unpaid child support, and countless charges for his unethical research. Bodies started turning up left and right in dingy facilities all around Tokyo. Most of these were kids who were desperate and thought he could give them talent. Heck, the guy was like a ghost though. We couldn't even figure out where he lived, let alone what hole he crawled into. I guess this explains why though." She said as a scowl spread across her face.
** The Mastermind of ''Kuma-Kuma Land'' [[spoiler:crossed it for trapping one hundred Ultimates on a roller coaster and ejecting them out of their seats, to their deaths. They were responsible for the deaths of eighty Ultimates, and had no qualms with trying to eject [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Annabelle Lupin]], ''[[WouldHurtAChild a nine-year old child]]''!]]
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* TakeThatScrappy: Several of the least popular Danganronpa characters have been killed off, such as [[spoiler: Teruteru, Hagakure and [[AssholeVictim especially]] Koreyiko.]]

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* TakeThatScrappy: Several of the least popular Danganronpa characters have been killed off, such as [[spoiler: Teruteru, Hagakure and [[AssholeVictim especially]] Koreyiko.Korekiyo.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Ringo Takagami always a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[BloodKnight who enjoys killing]], or did he have a FreudianExcuse that caused him to act the way he does? Alternatively, was he [[FaceHeelTurn driven into Despair]] like [[spoiler:the original Makoto]]?
** [[spoiler: No, it seems to be made quite clear that he was always this messed up, with no justification beyond being an amoral sociopath.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Ringo Takagami always a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[BloodKnight who enjoys killing]], or did he have a FreudianExcuse that caused him to act the way he does? Alternatively, was he [[FaceHeelTurn driven into Despair]] like [[spoiler:the original Makoto]]?



*** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He asks Nekomaru to cover for him to save his own skin. Then, when Nekomaru becomes even more aggravated, Teruteru tries to ''attack him.'' Nekomaru, being [[BullyingADragon way bigger and fitter than Teruteru]], ends up defeating him in a CurbStompBattle. If Hanamura valued his life rather than being a DirtyCoward, he wouldn't have ended up provoking Nidai into murdering him, and indirectly causing his [[IHaveYourWife beloved mother]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness to get murdered since she was no longer useful without her son]].]]

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*** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He asks Nekomaru to cover for him to save his own skin. Then, when Nekomaru becomes even more aggravated, Teruteru tries to ''attack him.'' Nekomaru, being [[BullyingADragon way bigger and fitter than Teruteru]], ends up defeating him in a CurbStompBattle. If Hanamura valued his life rather than being a DirtyCoward, he wouldn't have ended up provoking Nidai into murdering him, and indirectly causing his [[IHaveYourWife beloved mother]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness to get murdered since she was no longer useful without her son]]. Even if Teruteru was unaware of Himiko's hemophilia, he could've at least tried to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere run to a safe place]].]]



*** [[WordOfSaintPaul Word of OC submitter]]: the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics. The Ultimate Trickster's creator said their spirit animal was a fox (which the character confirms in a flashback later).

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*** [[WordOfSaintPaul Word of OC submitter]]: Submitter]]: Psychochiken, the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC Shuhei Kisaki in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics. The life of the dead, the creator of the Ultimate Trickster's creator Trickster Raef Hyazaki said their spirit animal was a fox (which the character confirms in a flashback later).
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*** WordOfSaintPaul (in this case, the submitters of the OCs); the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics. The Ultimate Trickster's creator said their spirit animal was a fox (which the character confirms in a flashback later).

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*** WordOfSaintPaul (in this case, the submitters [[WordOfSaintPaul Word of the OCs); OC submitter]]: the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics. The Ultimate Trickster's creator said their spirit animal was a fox (which the character confirms in a flashback later).
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* BrokenBase: The decision in ''Final Horizon'' to have the fans decide who would die in the third case, [[spoiler: ultimately leading to the death of the main character Hayate]]. Some of the readers didn't particularly enjoy this decision or its outcome.

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* BrokenBase: The decision in ''Final Horizon'' to have the fans decide who would die in the third case, [[spoiler: ultimately leading to the death of the main character Hayate]]. Some of the readers didn't particularly enjoy this decision or its outcome. [[spoiler: The fact that he actually survived mitigates this, however.]]
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*** WordOfSaintPaul (in this case, the submitters of the OCs); the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics. The Ultimate Trickster's creator said their spirit animal was a fox.

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*** WordOfSaintPaul (in this case, the submitters of the OCs); the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics. The Ultimate Trickster's creator said their spirit animal was a fox.fox (which the character confirms in a flashback later).
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*** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: They would make the most of these students, spread out their deaths through killing games and the like for maximum despair, possibly even try brainwashing some int becoming Despairs themselves.]]

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*** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: They would make the most of these students, spread out their deaths through killing games and the like for maximum despair, possibly even try brainwashing some int into becoming Despairs themselves.]]
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** [[spoiler: Hagakure, whose crime was that he killed Genocider Syo in self-defense, gives a heartfelt farewell to his friends and Angie (who he was in love with) and asks them to say goodbye to his mom for him.]]

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** [[spoiler: Hagakure, whose crime was that he (accidentally) killed Genocider Syo in self-defense, gives a heartfelt farewell to his friends and Angie (who he was in love with) and asks them to say goodbye to his mom for him.]]



** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.]] [[spoiler: Though the untrustworthy guy, at least, might've been innocent.]]

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** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility Tranquility'' [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.]] [[spoiler: Though the untrustworthy guy, at least, might've been innocent.]]
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** Ringo Takagami. A hitman and [[TheSociopath sociopath]], he sees the Killing Game (and indeed, life in general) as just a way of testing/honing his abilities. Uncaring of his fellow classmates, even going so far as to threaten to kill someone immediately when the option to do so and leave is available (only ''not'' doing so because that would end the fun too early and, allegedly, only trying to do so to see if Monokuma would stop him), he makes it clear from the get go he fully intends to win the game on his own time and in his own way. He eventually follows through by rigging traps throughout the station, fully intending to kill everyone indirectly to leave as the SoleSurvivor. [[spoiler: Even before the Killing Game he expressed a desire to hunt his fellow Ultimates on the station.]] And no, he had no DarkAndTroubledPast to explain himself; he just liked using live people as his target practice.

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* CompleteMonster: Dr. Jibo Momota, The Ultimate Biologist. A SocialDarwinist who thinks only Ultimates deserve to live, he joined Ultimate Despair (''not'' through being brainwashed) and ended up [[spoiler: experimenting on the members of Class 80-A, without remorse. His [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate resume]] during that time includes cutting teenagers, forcing them to relive traumatic events, lecherously focusing on the girls (to the point of [[DirtyOldMan blatantly staring at Alice's body]] and implying [[SexualExtortion a certain requirement for her to leave his care]]), and sending an adult {{Sadist}} to do [[NothingIsScarier who]]-[[ColtBloodedTorture knows]]-[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what]] to one teenager who HatesBeingTouched.]] All while espousing how morals hold people back and how he'd kill 99% of humanity for the 1% of Ultimates if he had to. [[spoiler: It's heavily implied, though not yet confirmed, that he's the Mastermind of the Tranquility Base Killing Game as well.]]



** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.]]

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** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.]] [[spoiler: Though the untrustworthy guy, at least, might've been innocent.]]

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** In universe, [[spoiler: Alice still feels bad that Ringo died, even if he was a paranoid nut.]]

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** [[spoiler: Though whatever it is Sierra found in one of the boys dorms might be related to the case.]]

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** [[spoiler: Though whatever it is Then Sierra found a combat knife in one of Kakeru's drawers. The same weapon type that would've been the boys dorms might be related to the case.murder weapon.]]

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** [[spoiler: Though whatever it is Sierra found in one of the boys dorms might be related to the case.]]



** [[spoiler: Hiroki and Saki turn the tables on their would-be killer, who is implied to be Yuto Kamishiro.]]

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** [[spoiler: Hiroki and Saki turn the tables on their would-be killer, who is implied to be [[CasanovaWannabe Yuto Kamishiro.Kamishiro]].]]
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*** WordOfSaintPaul (in this case, the submitters of the OCs); the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics.

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* WhatAnIdiot: For the first motive, Teruteru Hanamura sees a hostage video involving his mother, [[spoiler:and decides to commit murder to get to her. He targets Himiko Yumeno and lures her into the Aquarium by taking her staff.]]
** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler:Teruteru to knock Himiko unconscious to minimize bloodspill, and then throw her body and the staff into the piranha tank to dispose of her easily. Since there wouldn't be any evidence pointing to him, he could've just appeared at the scene and acted as if he was just as shocked at the rest of the students. It'd be just like the second murder of VisualNovel/DanganRonpaV3 but at least Teruteru never had any loose clothing that would be the only evidence present.]]
** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler:He decides to injure Himiko as quickly as possible, making her bleed everywhere. She is left with enough consciousness to write Teruteru's name [[CouldntFindAPen with her own blood]] before dying. After Hanamura does toss her body into the tank, he realises he has a lot of blood to clean.]]
** '''Then:''' [[spoiler:Nekomaru Nidai shows up and finds Teruteru cleaning the blood, with a bottle of bleach and Himiko's bloodied staff in his possession.]]
** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler:Teruteru to pour the bleach at Nekomaru to distract [[LeaveNoWitnesses and potentially poison him]], then locking himself into a safe room and cleaning himself up.]]
** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He asks Nekomaru to cover for him to save his own skin. Then, when Nekomaru becomes even more aggravated, Teruteru tries to ''attack him.'' Nekomaru, being [[BullyingADragon way bigger and fitter than Teruteru]], ends up defeating him in a CurbStompBattle. If Hanamura valued his life rather than being a DirtyCoward, he wouldn't have ended up provoking Nidai into murdering him, and indirectly causing his [[IHaveYourWife beloved mother]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness to get murdered since she was no longer useful without her son]].]]

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For the first motive, Teruteru Hanamura sees a hostage video involving his mother, [[spoiler:and decides to commit murder to get to her. He targets Himiko Yumeno and lures her into the Aquarium by taking her staff.]]
** *** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler:Teruteru to knock Himiko unconscious to minimize bloodspill, and then throw her body and the staff into the piranha tank to dispose of her easily. Since there wouldn't be any evidence pointing to him, he could've just appeared at the scene and acted as if he was just as shocked at the rest of the students. It'd be just like the second murder of VisualNovel/DanganRonpaV3 but at least Teruteru never had any loose clothing that would be the only evidence present.]]
** *** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler:He decides to injure Himiko as quickly as possible, making her bleed everywhere. She is left with enough consciousness to write Teruteru's name [[CouldntFindAPen with her own blood]] before dying. After Hanamura does toss her body into the tank, he realises he has a lot of blood to clean.]]
** *** '''Then:''' [[spoiler:Nekomaru Nidai shows up and finds Teruteru cleaning the blood, with a bottle of bleach and Himiko's bloodied staff in his possession.]]
** *** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler:Teruteru to pour the bleach at Nekomaru to distract [[LeaveNoWitnesses and potentially poison him]], then locking himself into a safe room and cleaning himself up.]]
** *** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He asks Nekomaru to cover for him to save his own skin. Then, when Nekomaru becomes even more aggravated, Teruteru tries to ''attack him.'' Nekomaru, being [[BullyingADragon way bigger and fitter than Teruteru]], ends up defeating him in a CurbStompBattle. If Hanamura valued his life rather than being a DirtyCoward, he wouldn't have ended up provoking Nidai into murdering him, and indirectly causing his [[IHaveYourWife beloved mother]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness to get murdered since she was no longer useful without her son]].]]
** The Despairs [[spoiler: have captured a hundred students that were being considered for future Hope's Peak classes.]]
*** '''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: They would make the most of these students, spread out their deaths through killing games and the like for maximum despair, possibly even try brainwashing some int becoming Despairs themselves.]]
*** '''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They just shove then all on a rigged roller coaster and just wastefully let eighty potential ultimates die randomly in the ensuing ride.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler: Zigzagged with Tsumugi. While no one will miss her, they take no pleasure in her death. Then o course a flashback chapter reveals she was once a plain normal girl who was corrupted to Despair by Junko.]]

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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler: Zigzagged with Tsumugi. While no one will miss her, they take no pleasure in her death. Then o of course a flashback chapter reveals she was once a plain normal girl who was corrupted to Despair by Junko.]]

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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler: Zigzagged with Tsumugi. While no one will miss her, they take no pleasure in her death. This becomes more straight when a flashback chapter reveals she was a normal girl who was corrupted by Junko.]]

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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler: Zigzagged with Tsumugi. While no one will miss her, they take no pleasure in her death. This becomes more straight when Then o course a flashback chapter reveals she was once a plain normal girl who was corrupted to Despair by Junko.]]


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** [[spoiler: The inclusion of expressly supernatural events in the story (ghosts, summoned creatures, etc.) might also be a subject of split opinions.]]
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*** An example from a non-authorial source; the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics.

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*** An example from a non-authorial source; WordOfSaintPaul (in this case, the submitters of the OCs); the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics.
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** In universe, [[spoiler: Alice still feels bad that Ringo died, even if he was a paranoid nut.]]
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*** An example from a non-authorial source; the person who made the Ultimate Scientist OC in Final Horizon clarified in a comment that his preferred field was Forensics.
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%%* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: From Final Horizon: Everytime Nico guesses what Monokuma is going to say.
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* AmbiguousSituation: The ending of ''Sea of Tranquility'''s first trial leaves some things ''just'' ambiguous enough to question things, [[spoiler: especially regarding Mallory's Monopad: Did Misuzu genuinely not find anything on the Pad (which she never actually showed to the others), or did she see something incriminating and consciously cover it up? Though the fact that Mallory (according to Monokuma) voted for herself after insisting she was innocent and wanting the others to vote for her doesn't seem like something a guilty person with no knowledge that the votes would be declared to the group would do.]]

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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler: In the second case of Final Horizon, most people expected Nico to die, since her guessing skills are too useful. Many reviewvers also figured out that Rei was the culprit (the submitter of Nico even joked about it before it happened. However, most of them didn't expect Raef to die early on.]]

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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler: In the second case of Final Horizon, ''Final Horizon'', most people expected Nico to die, since her guessing skills are too useful. Many reviewvers also figured out that Rei was the culprit (the submitter of Nico even joked about it before it happened. However, most of them didn't expect Raef to die early on.]]
** The first case of ''Sea of Tranquility [[spoiler: plays out pretty much exactly like the hypothetical example from the Untwist trope page. The hostile untrustworthy guy who in most Danganronpa fics would stick around as a source of tension and conflict for most of the story ... is found guilty and executed in the first trial. Meanwhile the NiceGirl who's broken up about the murders and had unexplained blood on her hands is found to be innocent, having injured her hands trying to help the victims.
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* NobodyThinksItWillWork: What are the odds that Chihiro Fujisaki, a boy so innocent, shy, and unsure of himself, that he hides his own identity, would find the perfect companion in someone as extroverted, obnoxious, and aggressive as Miu Iruma? And yet, fans have praised the author for writing one of the sweetest and most heartwarming non-canon crossover Danganronpa pairings.
* TakeThatScrappy: Several of the least popular Danganronpa characters have been killed off, such as [[spoiler: Teruteru, the real Hiyoko, Hagakure and [[AssholeVictim especially]] Koreyiko.]]

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* NobodyThinksItWillWork: What are the odds that Chihiro Fujisaki, a boy so innocent, shy, and unsure of himself, that he hides pretends to be a girl when interacting with his own identity, schoolmates, would find the perfect companion in someone as extroverted, obnoxious, and aggressive as Miu Iruma? And yet, fans have praised the author for writing one of the sweetest and most heartwarming non-canon crossover Danganronpa pairings.
* TakeThatScrappy: Several of the least popular Danganronpa characters have been killed off, such as [[spoiler: Teruteru, the real Hiyoko, Hagakure and [[AssholeVictim especially]] Koreyiko.]]


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** An offscreen example in the epilogue: [[spoiler: Nagito Komaeda's ''Despaired Clone'' survived Hope's Peak's destruction and is on the loose.]]

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* FunnyMoments: Even these come from time to time.
** Meta example: the reviewer Luckenhaft tends to make long and humorous reviews for the chapters, to the point of developing an actusl storyline of how he's currently hiding in a broom closet and respawning whenever he's killed (to ''everyone's'' frustration). They must be read to be believed.
** From Final Horizon: Everytime Nico guesses what Monokuma is going to say.

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* FunnyMoments: Even these come from time to time.
** Meta example: the reviewer Luckenhaft tends to make long and humorous reviews for the chapters, to the point of developing an actusl storyline of how he's currently hiding in a broom closet and respawning whenever he's killed (to ''everyone's'' frustration). They must be read to be believed.
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%%* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: From Final Horizon: Everytime Nico guesses what Monokuma is going to say.

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