History YMMV / AChristmasCarol

27th May '17 11:03:21 AM MagBas
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* LawfulEvil: Ebenezer Scrooge, before his redemption, cares only about the pursuit of money, has nothing but contempt for the poor, and doesn't care who gets screwed over in his business dealings. However, he has no interest in cheating or violating the letter of the law, and is grudgingly acknowledged as being fundamentally honest.
27th May '17 10:02:48 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* LawfulEvil: Ebenezer Scrooge, before his redemption, cares only about the pursuit of money, has nothing but contempt for the poor, and doesn't care who gets screwed over in his business dealings. However, he has no interest in cheating or violating the letter of the law, and is grudgingly acknowledged as being fundamentally honest.



* {{Narm}}: The Patrick Stuart film has the Ghost of Christmas Yet-To-Come use a human hand instead of draping black cloth or using a skeletal hand to point at objects/people.

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* {{Narm}}: The Patrick Stuart Creator/PatrickStewart film has the Ghost of Christmas Yet-To-Come use a human hand instead of draping black cloth or using a skeletal hand to point at objects/people.
4th Jan '17 2:34:33 PM loracarol
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: So, you've just finished watching the Zemeckis adaptation and the ending credits start to roll. Unless you were paying attention during the opening credits, you probably weren't expecting Andrea Bocelli to suddenly throw down an [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipd8ZI_2Vkk incredibly epic version of "God Bless Us Everyone"]].

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: So, you've just finished watching the Zemeckis adaptation and the ending credits start to roll. Unless you were paying attention during the opening credits, you probably weren't expecting Andrea Bocelli to suddenly throw down an [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipd8ZI_2Vkk com/watch?v=8Jg_-izIwxw incredibly epic version of "God Bless Us Everyone"]].



* WTHCastingAgency: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKBefzQfygI This blogger]] points out that pretty much every version of the story that gets told with existing characters has one in-story character that there's no good fit for, and one actor-character that there's no good role for, so they just squish them together.
** The animated ''Christmas Carol: The Movie'' wins the gold in this event - Jacob Marley is voiced by Creator/NicolasCage using [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent an accent from no recognisable part of England]].

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* WTHCastingAgency: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKBefzQfygI This blogger]] points out that pretty Pretty much every version of the story that gets told with existing characters has one in-story character that there's no good fit for, and one actor-character that there's no good role for, so they just squish them together.
** The animated ''Christmas Carol: The Movie'' wins the gold in this event - Jacob Marley is voiced by Creator/NicolasCage using [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent an accent from no recognisable recognizable part of England]].
7th Dec '16 8:08:38 PM kataangluvr
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* {{Narm}}: The Patrick Stuart film has the Ghost of Christmas Yet-To-Come use a human hand instead of draping black cloth or using a skeletal hand to point at objects/people.
26th Nov '16 5:22:50 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** The Ghost of Christmas Past in particular tends to get hit with this. This could be because the description in the book is virtually impossible to depict visually, other than via some form of animation(either conventional or CGI); the first paragraph of the description is fairly doable, but the second paragraph...

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** The Ghost of Christmas Past in particular tends to get hit with this. This could be because the description in the book is virtually impossible to depict visually, other than via some form of animation(either animation (either conventional or CGI); the first paragraph of the description is fairly doable, but the second paragraph...


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** WheelchairWoobie: Poor, poor Tiny Tim...
18th Oct '16 7:58:03 PM DDRMASTERM
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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear that he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen in the afterlife.

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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear that he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this is all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen in the afterlife.
1st Aug '16 2:55:32 PM Grounder
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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear tha he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen in the afterlife.

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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear tha that he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen in the afterlife.
18th Feb '16 1:18:01 AM Shadowgazer
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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear tha he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen.
* FairForItsDay: Back at the time Dickens wrote this, it was considered highly progressive as [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped it showed the audience that they are obligated to help disabled people to survive and that the idea that people with disabilities should be killed or allowed to die was heartless]]. However, some disability rights activists today take issue with the portrayal of [[LittlestCancerPatient Tiny Tim]] as DisabledMeansHelpless- essentially a magical cripple who exists solely to elicit pity from Scrooge and the audience.

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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear tha he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen.
businessmen in the afterlife.
* FairForItsDay: Back at the time Dickens wrote this, it was considered highly progressive as [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped it showed the audience that they are obligated to help disabled people to survive and that the idea that people with disabilities should be killed or allowed to die was heartless]]. However, some disability rights activists today take issue with the portrayal of [[LittlestCancerPatient Tiny Tim]] as DisabledMeansHelpless- essentially a magical cripple who exists solely to elicit pity from Scrooge and the audience.audience, despite the fact that poverty was the primary reason for his helplessness and possibly for his disability.



* MoralEventHorizon: The three spirits make Scrooge himself go through his past to realize how far his actions have gone, and the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come shows him [[BadFuture the consequences of crossing this line]]. What Scrooge sees, especially the aftermath of Tiny Tim's death, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly horrifies him]].

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* MoralEventHorizon: The three spirits make Scrooge himself go through his past to realize how far his actions have gone, and the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come shows him [[BadFuture the consequences of crossing this line]].line, by continuing to take advantage of the destitute and stealing with the tolerance of the law]]. What Scrooge sees, especially the aftermath of Tiny Tim's death, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly horrifies him]].
18th Feb '16 1:12:10 AM Shadowgazer
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** On the other hand it is made clear that most people who have debts to him have no possible presents for each other other than used napkins. The various adaptations make it clear tha he charges people a fortune for old and disrepaired houses nowhere near their true value, has his worker slave away for a meager salary and has a monopoly over the market. Of course this all legal, simply because the laws did not bother to prevent people from charging as much as they pleased without caring about ancient statures such as "objective value". That is why politicians are punished as horribly as corrupt businessmen.
29th Dec '15 1:08:02 PM FilmFreak
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** There is also the fact that Marley off-handedly tells Scrooge in the book [[ParanoiaFuel this isn't the first time he's wandered the halls of his house as a ghost.]]
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