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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[ExpendableClone only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeEnergy [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[ExpendableClone only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed cloned and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeEnergy [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.
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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeEnergy [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues [[spoiler:[[ExpendableClone only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeEnergy [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally a juvenile animated series. As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity. However, the s-words and the f-bombs are bleeped which is unusual for a streaming-only show (even on its Blu-ray and DVD release).
*** The creator actually stated in an interview that this was intentional due to [[RuleofFunny Rule of Funny]], and that there is no version that doesn't contain the bleeps. Some fans even suspect that non-swear words were bleeped to add to the effect.

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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally assumed to be a juvenile animated series. As series due to its lighthearted comedy and friendly-looking characters, but there are frequent references to adult situations (Mariner's EstablishingCharacterMoment has her tease Boimler while drunk, sex between crewmembers is shown more and more frequently as the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity. However, the s-words series goes on), and the f-bombs are freedom of animation means that the violence is much more graphic than in other ''Trek'' shows. The majority of the profanity is bleeped which is unusual for a streaming-only show (even on its Blu-ray and DVD release).
*** The creator actually stated in an interview that
out, although this was intentional is due to [[RuleofFunny Rule of Funny]], and that there is no version that doesn't contain the bleeps. Some fans even suspect that non-swear words were bleeped to add to the effect.RuleOfFunny rather than making things family-friendly.
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* The Creator/CBSAllAccess shows, being in a streaming service rather than cable television, have more adult content:

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* The Creator/CBSAllAccess Creator/ParamountPlus shows, being in a streaming service rather than cable television, have more adult content:
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Adding some detail to the Lower Decks entry at the end

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*** The creator actually stated in an interview that this was intentional due to [[RuleofFunny Rule of Funny]], and that there is no version that doesn't contain the bleeps. Some fans even suspect that non-swear words were bleeped to add to the effect.
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' series were generally aired during a family-viewing time (i.e. after five but before nine). Among other things, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' alone was throwing out several episodes dealing with heads blowing up, heads being blown ''off'', human laboratory experiments, bloody death scenes, psychological and physical torture (that were advised on by the folks at Amnesty International) and let's not forget the Borg ... you have to wonder whether this was always a good idea.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' series were generally aired during a family-viewing time (i.e. after five but before nine). Among other things, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' alone was throwing out several episodes dealing with heads blowing up, heads being blown ''off'', human laboratory experiments, bloody death scenes, psychological and physical torture (that were advised on by the folks at Amnesty International) and let's not forget the Borg ...Borg... you have to wonder whether this was always a good idea.
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** [[TheLancer Riker]] tries to [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre "lance"]] just about everything that is [[BoldlyComing remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[MrExposition Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorOnBoard onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a Star Trek series. [[TheCaptain Picard]] also travels back in time and [[CannotStandThemCannotLiveWithoutThem his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].

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** [[TheLancer Riker]] tries to [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre "lance"]] just about everything that is [[BoldlyComing remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[MrExposition Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorOnBoard onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a Star Trek series. [[TheCaptain Picard]] also travels back in time and [[CannotStandThemCannotLiveWithoutThem [[CantLiveWithThemCantLiveWithoutThem his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].
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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally a juvenile animated series. As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity. However, the s-words and the f-bombs are bleeped which is unusual for a streaming-only show (even on it's Blu-ray and DVD release).

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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally a juvenile animated series. As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity. However, the s-words and the f-bombs are bleeped which is unusual for a streaming-only show (even on it's its Blu-ray and DVD release).
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I don't get why Lower Decks is still censored (profanity) despite on a streaming service which would've make sense on a TV-MA rating.


** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally a juvenile animated series. As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.

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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally a juvenile animated series. As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity. However, the s-words and the f-bombs are bleeped which is unusual for a streaming-only show (even on it's Blu-ray and DVD release).
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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' literally uses juvenile humor.As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.

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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is literally uses a juvenile humor.animated series. As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.
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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is an adult animated show. The trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.

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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is an adult animated show. The literally uses juvenile humor.As the trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.
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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce LifeEnergy [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.
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** Series/StarTrekDiscovery encountered this attitude upon its debut in September 2017 as the first made-for-streaming, TV-MA rated Star Trek series, with higher levels of gore and adult language (including the franchise's first use of the F-word). Although the show remains tame compared to other streaming series, and a case can be made that its TV-MA rating is arbitrary rather than accurately reflecting its content, the fact it is the first explicitly non-family-friendly Trek series has led to some complaining from fans. In Canada, where the series airs in a traditional broadcast format rather than streaming, home broadcaster Space was actually reprimanded by the country's broadcast standards watchdog for airing an episode of a franchise considered family-friendly too early in the evening; the episode in question was cited for violence and also contained the aforementioned first use of the F-word.

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** Series/StarTrekDiscovery ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' encountered this attitude upon its debut in September 2017 as the first made-for-streaming, TV-MA rated Star Trek series, with higher levels of gore and adult language (including the franchise's first use of the F-word). Although the show remains tame compared to other streaming series, and a case can be made that its TV-MA rating is arbitrary rather than accurately reflecting its content, the fact it is the first explicitly non-family-friendly Trek series has led to some complaining from fans. In Canada, where the series airs in a traditional broadcast format rather than streaming, home broadcaster Space was actually reprimanded by the country's broadcast standards watchdog for airing an episode of a franchise considered family-friendly too early in the evening; the episode in question was cited for violence and also contained the aforementioned first use of the F-word.
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** "Opperation: Annihilate!" has Kirk's relatives and a good many other people die horribly, with the only survivor being Kirk's nephew.

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** "Opperation: "Operation: Annihilate!" has Kirk's relatives and a good many other people die horribly, with the only survivor being Kirk's nephew.

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* [[TheLancer Riker]] tries to [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre "lance"]] just about everything that is [[BoldlyComing remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[MrExposition Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorOnBoard onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a Star Trek series. [[TheCaptain Picard]] also travels back in time and [[CannotStandThemCannotLiveWithoutThem his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].
** TNG in general was more "sexed up" than the classic series, which was already fairly boundary-pushing for 60's broadcast TV. On top of episodes like "Justice", which featured a society full of barely-clothed sexy people [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex having a lot of sex most of the time]], early episodes showed the crew getting extremely horny, and implied Tasha Yar, of all people, was banging one guy after another (including Data!), not to mention Crusher implicitly grabbing Picard's crotch. Later seasons were somewhat tamer, but "Man of the People" (Season 6) does have Deanna Troi in a decidedly sheer nightie through which her breasts (and we mean just about all of them) can be clearly seen.

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* TNG in general was more "sexed up" than the classic series, which was already fairly boundary-pushing for 60's broadcast TV.
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[[TheLancer Riker]] tries to [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre "lance"]] just about everything that is [[BoldlyComing remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[MrExposition Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorOnBoard onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a Star Trek series. [[TheCaptain Picard]] also travels back in time and [[CannotStandThemCannotLiveWithoutThem his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].
** TNG in general was more "sexed up" than the classic series, which was already fairly boundary-pushing for 60's broadcast TV. On top of There were episodes like "Justice", which featured a society full of barely-clothed sexy people [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex having a lot of sex most of the time]], early episodes showed the crew getting extremely horny, and implied Tasha Yar, of all people, was banging one guy after another (including Data!), not to mention Crusher implicitly grabbing Picard's crotch. Later seasons were somewhat tamer, but "Man of the People" (Season 6) does have Deanna Troi in a decidedly sheer nightie through which her breasts (and we mean just about all of them) can be clearly seen.



* Lets not forget ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'''s "The Siege of AR-558" which features the Dominion's shock troops attempting to [[spoiler: reclaim a communications outpost that had been seized months earlier by the Federation.]] The Defiant shows up to provide supplies at first, but the crew remains behind when [[spoiler: The Jem'Hadar sneak attack Nog and they realize a siege is inevitable. He winds up losing a leg due to that and what follows is a quite violent fight against a horde of shock troops, all while classy jazz music plays, thanks to Bashir having a recording of Vic Fontaine singing.]]

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* Lets not forget ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'''s ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
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"The Siege of AR-558" which features the Dominion's shock troops attempting to [[spoiler: reclaim a communications outpost that had been seized months earlier by the Federation.]] The Defiant shows up to provide supplies at first, but the crew remains behind when [[spoiler: The Jem'Hadar sneak attack Nog and they realize a siege is inevitable. He winds up losing a leg due to that and what follows is a quite violent fight against a horde of shock troops, all while classy jazz music plays, thanks to Bashir having a recording of Vic Fontaine singing.]]



** "Patterns of Force" had apperances from the [[SarcasmMode totally kid-friendly]] Nazis! Complete with racism! Germany had this banned until at least the late 1990s (and even then, it was edited and changed so Nazis wouldn't be mentioned or seen).

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** "Patterns of Force" had apperances appearances from the [[SarcasmMode totally kid-friendly]] Nazis! Complete with racism! Germany had this banned until at least the late 1990s (and even then, it was edited and changed so Nazis wouldn't be mentioned or seen).
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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]]. And then there was that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].
** Except for that one time that he was mind raped and turned into a assassin.

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* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].
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* The Creator/CBSAllAccess shows ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and [=DS9=] with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?

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* The Creator/CBSAllAccess shows ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently shows, being in a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and [=DS9=] with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?streaming service rather than cable television, have more adult content:
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* Series/StarTrekDiscovery encountered this attitude upon its debut in September 2017 as the first made-for-streaming, TV-MA rated Star Trek series, with higher levels of gore and adult language (including the franchise's first use of the F-word). Although the show remains tame compared to other streaming series, and a case can be made that its TV-MA rating is arbitrary rather than accurately reflecting its content, the fact it is the first explicitly non-family-friendly Trek series has led to some complaining from fans. In Canada, where the series airs in a traditional broadcast format rather than streaming, home broadcaster Space was actually reprimanded by the country's broadcast standards watchdog for airing an episode of a franchise considered family-friendly too early in the evening; the episode in question was cited for violence and also contained the aforementioned first use of the F-word.
* ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' also took advantage of being made for streaming services, with the inclusion of more violence, a more cynical and depressing tone and a more liberal use of the F-word, which led to some backlash from more traditional fans and parents.
* Both ''Discovery'' and ''Picard'' ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and [=DS9=] with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?
* ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is an adult animated show. The trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.

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* *The Creator/CBSAllAccess shows ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and [=DS9=] with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?
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Series/StarTrekDiscovery encountered this attitude upon its debut in September 2017 as the first made-for-streaming, TV-MA rated Star Trek series, with higher levels of gore and adult language (including the franchise's first use of the F-word). Although the show remains tame compared to other streaming series, and a case can be made that its TV-MA rating is arbitrary rather than accurately reflecting its content, the fact it is the first explicitly non-family-friendly Trek series has led to some complaining from fans. In Canada, where the series airs in a traditional broadcast format rather than streaming, home broadcaster Space was actually reprimanded by the country's broadcast standards watchdog for airing an episode of a franchise considered family-friendly too early in the evening; the episode in question was cited for violence and also contained the aforementioned first use of the F-word.
* ** ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' also took advantage of being made for streaming services, with the inclusion of more violence, a more cynical and depressing tone and a more liberal use of the F-word, which led to some backlash from more traditional fans and parents.
* Both ''Discovery'' and ''Picard'' ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and [=DS9=] with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?
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** ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is an adult animated show. The trailer alone shows (censored) nudity.
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* Both ''Discovery'' and ''Picard'' ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and DS9 with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?

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* Both ''Discovery'' and ''Picard'' ran into this attitude from longtime fans, incensed because "Before this, ''Star Trek'' was something I could watch with my kids!" So...exposing their kids to all the other stuff mentioned above was okay, but hearing the F-word was apparently a bridge too far. Also, if they watched TNG and DS9 [=DS9=] with their kids...would that not imply that their kids are now adults?
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** TNG in general was more "sexed up" than the classic series, which was already fairly boundary-pushing for 60's broadcast TV. On top of episodes like "Justice", which featured a society full of barely-clothed sexy people [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex having a lot of sex most of the time]], early episodes showed the crew getting extremely horny, and implied Tasha Yar, of all people, was banging one guy after another (including Data!), not to mention Crusher implicitly grabbing Picard's crotch. Later seasons were somewhat tamer, but "Man of the People" (Season 6) does have Deanna Troi in a decidedly sheer nightie through which her breasts (and we mean just about all of them) can be clearly seen.


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** ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' is even worse. The series ''begins'' by showing us the horrific Battle of Wolf 359. In TNG, this happened off-screen, and we only got to see the aftermath. In ''Deep Space Nine'', we see it up close and personal as thirty-nine ships are destroyed, resulting in the deaths of thousands. It only got darker from there. By the end of the series, it had featured racism, intolerance, a hefty dose of WarIsHell, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath Family Unfriendly Deaths]] by the dozen, genetic modification and slavery, MindRape, maiming, protest by suicide, a form of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame human hunting]], PTSD, ''genocide'', backstabbing politics, poisoning of entire planets, and lots of terrorism (with YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters being one of the series' central themes). And a lot of this was done ''by the heroes'', with the show wavering between GreyAndGrayMorality and BlackAndGreyMorality depending on the situation. Deep Space Nine was anything ''but'' meant for kids, likely being one of the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] pieces of work to ever come out of the franchise.

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** ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' is even worse. The series ''begins'' by showing us the horrific Battle of Wolf 359. In TNG, this happened off-screen, and we only got to see the aftermath. In ''Deep Space Nine'', we see it up close and personal as thirty-nine ships are destroyed, resulting in the deaths of thousands. It only got darker from there. By the end of the series, it had featured racism, intolerance, a hefty dose of WarIsHell, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath Family Unfriendly Deaths]] by the dozen, genetic modification and slavery, MindRape, maiming, protest by suicide, a form of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame human hunting]], PTSD, ''genocide'', backstabbing politics, poisoning of entire planets, and lots of terrorism (with YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters being one of the series' central themes). And a lot of this was done ''by the heroes'', with the show wavering between GreyAndGrayMorality and BlackAndGreyMorality BlackAndGrayMorality depending on the situation. Deep Space Nine was anything ''but'' meant for kids, likely being one of the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] pieces of work to ever come out of the franchise.
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** "Charlie X" features the titular character, who can be summed up as [[Series/TheTwilightZone Anthony Freemont]] [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]], and with even ''worse'' fates for anyone who crossed him (at least Anthony's victims were ReleasedToElsewhere after their transformations). Oh, and he blew up a ship, stalked a yeoman and killed her when she slapped him, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy and forced Spock to recite poetry instead of fighting]]. And the race that adopted him ''terrifies'' him, to the point where he's ''begging'' the same people he was just bullying not to let them take him away.

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** "Charlie X" features the titular character, who can be summed up as [[Series/TheTwilightZone [[Series/TheTwilightZone1959 Anthony Freemont]] Fremont]] [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]], and with even ''worse'' fates for anyone who crossed him (at least Anthony's victims were ReleasedToElsewhere after their transformations). Oh, and he blew up a ship, stalked a yeoman and killed her when she slapped him, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy and forced Spock to recite poetry instead of fighting]]. And the race that adopted him ''terrifies'' him, to the point where he's ''begging'' the same people he was just bullying not to let them take him away.

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