History WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids / StarTrek

6th Nov '17 11:35:36 AM TheSaddleman
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Series/StarTrekDiscovery encountered this attitude upon its debut in September 2017 as the first TV-MA rated Star Trek series, with higher levels of gore and adult language (including the franchise's first use of the F-word). Although (as of the one-third mark of the first season) the show remains tame compared to other streaming series, and a case can be made that its TV-MA rating is arbitrary rather than accurately reflecting its content, the fact it is the first explicitly non-family-friendly Trek series has led to some complaining from fans.
17th Sep '17 4:26:50 PM TMB
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Prior to the actual battle we get an up close look at one of the most accurate depictions of combat stress on television ever as the crew that has been holding this base has their numbers whittled down over non-stop combat for months without rest or reinforcement. Quark points out to Nog in all seriousness that these humans have become indistinguishable from Klingons.
8th Sep '17 10:41:51 AM Xemylixa
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* And in TOS alone there's plenty of this. How about the episode "The Paradise Syndrome" where [[spoiler: Kirk gets married to a woman, gets her pregnant, and then she gets stoned to death. On camera.]] Yeah.
* "Miri", with its facial disfigurement, homicidal mania, and children under threat, caused a big row in the UK when it was first broadcast. This led to it and three other episodes being left out of UK showing of the series until the 1990s.


Added DiffLines:

** How about the episode "The Paradise Syndrome" where [[spoiler: Kirk gets married to a woman, gets her pregnant, and then she gets stoned to death. On camera.]] Yeah.
** "Miri", with its facial disfigurement, homicidal mania, and children under threat, caused a big row in the UK when it was first broadcast. This led to it and three other episodes being left out of UK showing of the series until the 1990s.
15th Jan '17 2:38:53 PM DustSnitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].

to:

* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] Badassery of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].
29th Nov '16 6:55:27 AM kyojikasshu
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on DS9, after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].

to:

* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]that last one took place on DS9, [=DS9=], after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].
29th Nov '16 6:55:05 AM kyojikasshu
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]though that last part took place on DS9[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].

to:

* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]][[note]]though that Maquis]][[note]]that last part one took place on DS9[[/note]].DS9, after TNG was over[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].
29th Nov '16 6:53:57 AM kyojikasshu
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].

to:

* Also, there's [[TheCaptain Picard]] [[spoiler: getting a sword through the heart]], getting trapped as a [[BrainUploading program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers [[spoiler:[[CloningBlues only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[UnreliableNarrator according to Troi]]]], [[SapientShip Barclay merging with the]] ''[[SapientShip Enterprise]]'', [[TokenEvilTeammate Troi]] getting [[spoiler: {{mind rape}}d at least twice]], [[spoiler: [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it]], land developers committing [[spoiler: [[MoralMyopia genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]]], [[TheLancer Riker]] getting {{clon|ingBlues}}ed and his clone [[WhatYouAreInTheDark joining the Maquis]].Maquis]][[note]]though that last part took place on DS9[[/note]]. Anytime [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Worf]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily deals with anything about his own]] ProudWarriorRace, [[BloodKnight he suffers greatly for it]], [[spoiler: and his spine breaks twice]] [[DoomMagnet just to prove the]] [[BadAss Badassery]] of the episode's FriendToAllLivingThings. [[spoiler:[[OurVampiresAreDifferent Someone even tried to suck]] [[TheMedic Dr. Crusher's]] LifeForce [[AWizardDidIt or whatever]]]]. [[GeniusBruiser Data]] is often [[YouCallThatAWound damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of [[spoiler: being decapitated for 400 years]]. Data is also [[MoralityDial easily brainwashed]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman put on trial for disassembly]], and [[LatexPerfection impersonated]] by his EvilTwin. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until [[spoiler: a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for BrainUploading]].
10th Apr '16 11:28:34 PM SamMax
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' series were generally aired during a family-viewing time (i.e. after five but before nine). Can't speak for the other series, but with ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' throwing out several episodes dealing with heads blowing up, heads being blown ''off'', human laboratory experiments, bloody death scenes, psychological and physical torture (that were advised on by the folks at Amnesty International) and let's not forget the Borg ... you have to wonder whether this was always a good idea.

to:

* ''Franchise/StarTrek'' series were generally aired during a family-viewing time (i.e. after five but before nine). Can't speak for the Among other series, but with things, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' alone was throwing out several episodes dealing with heads blowing up, heads being blown ''off'', human laboratory experiments, bloody death scenes, psychological and physical torture (that were advised on by the folks at Amnesty International) and let's not forget the Borg ... you have to wonder whether this was always a good idea.
8th Sep '15 2:48:32 PM bwburke94
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* On a "[[KillItWithFire lighter]] [[spoiler:[[Manga/DeathNote Death]]]] [[IncrediblyLamePun note]]", [[TheLancer Riker]] tries to [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre "lance"]] just about everything that is [[BoldlyComing remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[MrExposition Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorOnBoard onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a Star Trek series. [[TheCaptain Picard]] also travels back in time and [[CannotStandThemCannotLiveWithoutThem his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].

to:

* On a "[[KillItWithFire lighter]] [[spoiler:[[Manga/DeathNote Death]]]] [[IncrediblyLamePun note]]", [[TheLancer Riker]] tries to [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre "lance"]] just about everything that is [[BoldlyComing remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[MrExposition Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorOnBoard onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a Star Trek series. [[TheCaptain Picard]] also travels back in time and [[CannotStandThemCannotLiveWithoutThem his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].
17th Feb '15 10:06:52 AM Alkochochlik
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpace9 DS9]]'' is even worse. The series ''begins'' by showing us the horrific Battle of Wolf 359. In TNG, this happened off-screen, and we only got to see the aftermath. In ''Deep Space Nine'', we see it up close and personal as thirty-nine ships are destroyed, resulting in the deaths of thousands. It only got darker from there. By the end of the series, it had featured racism, intolerance, a hefty dose of WarIsHell, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath Family Unfriendly Deaths]] by the dozen, genetic modification and slavery, MindRape, maiming, protest by suicide, a form of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame human hunting]], PTSD, ''genocide'', backstabbing politics, poisoning of entire planets, and lots of terrorism (with YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters being one of the series' central themes). And a lot of this was done ''by the heroes'', with the show wavering between GreyAndGrayMorality and BlackAndGreyMorality depending on the situation. Deep Space Nine was anything ''but'' meant for kids, likely being one of the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] pieces of work to ever come out of the franchise.

to:

** ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpace9 ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' is even worse. The series ''begins'' by showing us the horrific Battle of Wolf 359. In TNG, this happened off-screen, and we only got to see the aftermath. In ''Deep Space Nine'', we see it up close and personal as thirty-nine ships are destroyed, resulting in the deaths of thousands. It only got darker from there. By the end of the series, it had featured racism, intolerance, a hefty dose of WarIsHell, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath Family Unfriendly Deaths]] by the dozen, genetic modification and slavery, MindRape, maiming, protest by suicide, a form of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame human hunting]], PTSD, ''genocide'', backstabbing politics, poisoning of entire planets, and lots of terrorism (with YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters being one of the series' central themes). And a lot of this was done ''by the heroes'', with the show wavering between GreyAndGrayMorality and BlackAndGreyMorality depending on the situation. Deep Space Nine was anything ''but'' meant for kids, likely being one of the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] pieces of work to ever come out of the franchise.
This list shows the last 10 events of 28. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids.StarTrek