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1st May '16 3:29:08 PM WhatArtThee
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* While ''Disney/BigHero6'' is definitely for kids (albeit with a few mature, heartfelt moments), the comics upon which the Disney movie is based are... not. Honey Lemon is more voluptuous, Wasabi throws knives at his opponents, and Gogo has ties with the yakuza. And Baymax is more like a Transformer on crack than a cuddly, cute C3PO-like Michelin Man. It's very clear Disney cleaned up most of this for the kids.

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* While ''Disney/BigHero6'' is definitely for kids (albeit with a few mature, heartfelt moments), the comics upon which the Disney movie is based are... not. Honey The team was assembled in response to Hiroshima and Nagasaki's bombings, Hiro's parents were killed by a ''spirit made out of dead souls'' ,Honey Lemon is more voluptuous, Wasabi throws knives at his opponents, and Gogo has ties with the yakuza. And Baymax is more like a Transformer on crack than a cuddly, cute C3PO-like Michelin Man.made out of genetic material from Hiro's dead father. It's very clear Disney cleaned up most of this for the kids.



* ''ComicBook/TheMask''. While the comic book was not for children, and neither was [[Film/TheMask the movie]] based on it, [[WesternAnimation/TheMask the cartoon series]] based on ''that'' clearly was. This caused Dark Horse to [[http://web.archive.org/web/20071013194758/http://sequart.com/articles/?article=602 turn the comics more family-friendly]].

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* ''ComicBook/TheMask''. While the comic book was not for children, and neither was [[Film/TheMask the movie]] based on it, [[WesternAnimation/TheMask the cartoon series]] based on ''that'' , as well as the infamous ''Film/SonOfTheMask'' movie, clearly was. This caused Dark Horse to [[http://web.archive.org/web/20071013194758/http://sequart.com/articles/?article=602 turn the comics more family-friendly]].



* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' is a dark and gritty series, but still considered family friendly. ''ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures'' tie-in comic is considerably darker, has more blood and violence, and has references to sexuality. One one-shot "annual" comic loosely based on the series was guest-illustrated by more mature comics artists (including Klaus Janson, Frank Miller's partner on ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''!) and had a character saying [[PrecisionFStrike "Who the hell are you?"]] - the likes of which was ''never'' uttered on the TV series. It's taken even further in the ''Harley and Ivy'' subseries, where hinting at the sex lives of the title characters is arguably a large part of the point. In one, the two characters in question are sleeping in the same bed at one point, and Harley says that she loves Ivy "more than Mista J" and Ivy makes several direct references to the Joker's physical and psychological abuse of Harley, which she (Ivy) is disgusted with.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' is a dark and gritty series, but still considered family friendly. ''ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures'' tie-in comic is considerably darker, has more blood and violence, and has references to sexuality. One one-shot "annual" comic loosely based on the series was guest-illustrated by more mature comics artists (including Klaus Janson, Frank Miller's partner on ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''!) and had a character saying [[PrecisionFStrike "Who the hell are you?"]] - the likes of which was ''never'' uttered on the TV series. It's taken even further in the ''Harley and Ivy'' subseries, where hinting at the sex lives of the title characters is arguably a large part of the point. In one, the two characters in question are sleeping in the same bed at one point, and Harley says that she loves Ivy "more than Mista J" and Ivy makes several direct references to the Joker's physical and psychological abuse of Harley, which she (Ivy) is disgusted with.



* Swedish comic strips ''ComicBook/ArneAnka'' and ''ComicBook/{{Rocky}}'' are filled to the brim with funny animals. They're also filled with alcohol consumption, sex and deep, deep cynicism. Luckily, Swedes are generally smart enough to check the contents of such material before handing it to their kids.

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* Swedish comic strips ''ComicBook/ArneAnka'' and ''ComicBook/{{Rocky}}'' are filled to the brim with funny animals. They're also filled with alcohol consumption, sex and deep, deep cynicism. Luckily, Swedes are generally smart enough to check the contents of such material before handing it to their kids.



* Frankly, danged near ''any'' mainstream SuperHero comic produced during the DarkerAndEdgier [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age that ran from about 1988-1996.]] Between the ever-increasing levels of {{Gorn}} and the constant [[CrisisCrossover big damn universe-changing events]], the two biggest comic companies are ''still'' throwing as thick and fast as they can, the only Marvel and DC comics even ''remotely'' meant for kids these days are the Adventures and Johnny DC lines. It's gotten to the point that pasting "HEY, KIDS! COMICS!" over hyped up and massively nasty pages has become a wide-ranging Internet meme.
* It has been speculated that reason ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} (who was supposed to have her own series as far back as 2005) was kept on ice for so long is because WB execs were worried about upsetting parents by introducing a lesbian Bat-character in the wake of Batman's resurgence in mainstream popularity after the release of ''Film/BatmanBegins''. It apparently didn't matter that ''Batman Begins'' is a ''terrifying'' film, making ''BatmanReturns'' look like a Disney family comedy.

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* Frankly, danged near ''any'' mainstream SuperHero comic produced during the DarkerAndEdgier [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age that ran from about 1988-1996.]] Between the ever-increasing levels of {{Gorn}} and the constant [[CrisisCrossover big damn universe-changing events]], the two biggest comic companies are ''still'' throwing as thick and fast as they can, Even today, the only Marvel and DC comics even ''remotely'' meant for kids these days are the Adventures and Johnny DC lines. It's gotten to the point that pasting "HEY, KIDS! COMICS!" over hyped up and massively nasty pages has become a wide-ranging Internet meme.
* It has been speculated that reason ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} (who was supposed to have her own series as far back as 2005) was kept on ice for so long is because WB execs were worried about upsetting parents by introducing a lesbian Bat-character in the wake of Batman's resurgence in mainstream popularity after the release of ''Film/BatmanBegins''. It apparently didn't matter that ''Batman Begins'' is a ''terrifying'' film, making ''BatmanReturns'' look like a Disney family comedy.
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3rd Apr '16 1:50:58 PM staticat09
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* While ''Disney/Big Hero 6'' is definitely for kids (albeit with a few mature, heartfelt moments), the comics upon which the Disney movie is based are... not. Honey Lemon is more voluptuous, Wasabi throws knives at his opponents, and Gogo has ties with the yakuza. And Baymax is more like a Transformer on crack than a cuddly, cute C3PO-like Michelin Man. It's very clear Disney cleaned up most of this for the kids.

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* While ''Disney/Big Hero 6'' ''Disney/BigHero6'' is definitely for kids (albeit with a few mature, heartfelt moments), the comics upon which the Disney movie is based are... not. Honey Lemon is more voluptuous, Wasabi throws knives at his opponents, and Gogo has ties with the yakuza. And Baymax is more like a Transformer on crack than a cuddly, cute C3PO-like Michelin Man. It's very clear Disney cleaned up most of this for the kids.
3rd Apr '16 1:50:32 PM staticat09
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* While ''Disney/Big Hero 6'' is definitely for kids (albeit with a few mature, heartfelt moments), the comics upon which the Disney movie is based are... not. Honey Lemon is more voluptuous, Wasabi throws knives at his opponents, and Gogo has ties with the yakuza. And Baymax is more like a Transformer on crack than a cuddly, cute C3PO-like Michelin Man. It's very clear Disney cleaned up most of this for the kids.
15th Mar '16 4:37:55 PM jedidarrick
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* Played with in an issue of ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]'': a woman receives a book of fairy tales from a recently deceased relative's estate, and decides to read one to her young daughter. She soon realizes that these are ''old school'' fairy tales involving cannibalism, mutilation, vampirism, and murder. Oh, also: the fairy tales are alive.\\
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Then when the Justice League get trapped in those same stories, Franchise/TheFlash asks, since [[DisneyFication they're in a fairytale]], [[YouJustHadToSayIt how bad could it be?]] Franchise/GreenLantern then reminds him that he is an artist who had to study these stories and knew very well that they weren't so nice. Moments later, they are almost eaten by the witch from ''Literature/HanselAndGretel''.

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* Played with in an issue of ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]'': a woman receives a book of fairy tales from a recently deceased relative's estate, and decides to read one to her young daughter. She soon realizes that these are ''old school'' fairy tales involving cannibalism, mutilation, vampirism, and murder. Oh, also: the fairy tales are alive.\\
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Then when the Justice League get trapped in those same stories, Franchise/TheFlash asks, since [[DisneyFication they're in a fairytale]], [[YouJustHadToSayIt how bad could it be?]] Franchise/GreenLantern then reminds him that he is an artist who had to study these stories and knew very well that they weren't so nice. Moments later, they are almost eaten by the witch from ''Literature/HanselAndGretel''.



---> I don’t care what type of evidence or what type of testimony is out there; use your rationality; use your common sense. Comic books, traditionally what we think of, are for kids. This is in a store directly across from an elementary school and it is put in a medium, in a forum, to directly appeal to kids. That is why we are here, ladies and gentlemen. We’re here to get this off the shelf.

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---> --> I don’t care what type of evidence or what type of testimony is out there; use your rationality; use your common sense. Comic books, traditionally what we think of, are for kids. This is in a store directly across from an elementary school and it is put in a medium, in a forum, to directly appeal to kids. That is why we are here, ladies and gentlemen. We’re here to get this off the shelf.
15th Mar '16 4:35:55 PM jedidarrick
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* Woe betide anyone who thinks that Franchise/{{Batman}}'s rogues gallery consists of only the colorful, largely {{Harmless Villain}}s they saw on TV, along with the odd mobster or two. Many of the dozens of minor Bat-Villains from the comics (like Cornelius Stirk, Mr. Zsasz, and Jane Doe) haven't made it into the cartoons for a reason. Hell, even the ones that ''have'' been shown on television generally have at least one or two "absolutely under no conditions show to little kids" scenes in the comics. Exhibit A: [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120222185545/villains/images/f/fe/Victims_of_the_Joker_Venom.jpg victims of the Joker's Laughing Toxin when they've gotten a BIT too ripe.]]\\
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Yes, this even applies to the likes of Penguin and Riddler. The former? Used a flame-throwing umbrella to ''burn'' the wooden masks of three of Black Mask's henchmen ''into their faces''. The latter? While he was possessed by the demon Barbathos, gleefully stuffed a ping-pong ball down a baby's throat and forced Batman to remove it with nothing but a rusty knife.

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* Woe betide anyone who thinks that Franchise/{{Batman}}'s rogues gallery consists of only the colorful, largely {{Harmless Villain}}s they saw on TV, along with the odd mobster or two. Many of the dozens of minor Bat-Villains from the comics (like Cornelius Stirk, Mr. Zsasz, and Jane Doe) haven't made it into the cartoons for a reason. Hell, even the ones that ''have'' been shown on television generally have at least one or two "absolutely under no conditions show to little kids" scenes in the comics. Exhibit A: [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120222185545/villains/images/f/fe/Victims_of_the_Joker_Venom.jpg victims of the Joker's Laughing Toxin when they've gotten a BIT too ripe.]]\\
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Yes, this even applies to the likes of Penguin and Riddler. The former? Used a flame-throwing umbrella to ''burn'' the wooden masks of three of Black Mask's henchmen ''into their faces''. The latter? While he was possessed by the demon Barbathos, gleefully stuffed a ping-pong ball down a baby's throat and forced Batman to remove it with nothing but a rusty knife.
15th Mar '16 4:34:58 PM jedidarrick
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* The original ''Comicbook/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|Mirage}}'' comics were definitely ''not'' child-friendly, being loaded with incredibly over-the-top violence and gore to parody [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the increasingly dark comics of the time]]. The problem, of course, is that [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 the cartoon]] based on them ''was'' for children, and thus clueless parents could easily find themselves picking up an issue of the comic for a kid who was really into the Turtles…\\
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#15 has a letter from a woman who complains that her son had bought a couple of issues which included "foul language and violence," without specifying any further, and that the company which "prints material for children" should know better. This was shortly after the cartoon started airing, but it's not mentioned at all in the letter. In his response, Peter Laird wonders what language and on-panel violence she's talking about (the foulest thing in the earlier issues being on the level of "let's go kick some ass!"), and points out that just because it's a comic doesn't mean that it's for children. Complaints like this led to the creation of the Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}} series ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesAdventures'', which was based on the TV show and more kid-friendly.

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* The original ''Comicbook/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|Mirage}}'' comics were definitely ''not'' child-friendly, being loaded with incredibly over-the-top violence and gore to parody [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the increasingly dark comics of the time]]. The problem, of course, is that [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 the cartoon]] based on them ''was'' for children, and thus clueless parents could easily find themselves picking up an issue of the comic for a kid who was really into the Turtles…\\
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Turtles…
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#15 has a letter from a woman who complains that her son had bought a couple of issues which included "foul language and violence," without specifying any further, and that the company which "prints material for children" should know better. This was shortly after the cartoon started airing, but it's not mentioned at all in the letter. In his response, Peter Laird wonders what language and on-panel violence she's talking about (the foulest thing in the earlier issues being on the level of "let's go kick some ass!"), and points out that just because it's a comic doesn't mean that it's for children. Complaints like this led to the creation of the Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}} series ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesAdventures'', which was based on the TV show and more kid-friendly.
2nd Mar '16 8:54:17 AM Temmere
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* Similar to the above, ''Wonder Woman '77'', a recent comic tie-in to the old [[Series/WonderWoman live-action series]], has had several instances of profanity and shown a woman with bruises received from her abusive husband; the kid-friendly show would ''never'' have depicted something like that.
2nd Jan '16 7:11:12 PM Dhaka-dice
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** Even if you don't know anything about contemporary swedish comics [[note]]They also happen to be two of the most famous comics in Sweden (at least the last 20 years or so). Rocky strips have been in daily newspapers and Arne Anke even got a stage adaption in the 90's, starring one of Sweden's most popular comedians.[[/note]], Rocky often has characters are often seen drinking, vomiting and [[FlippingTheBird giving you the finger]] right on the cover.

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** Even if you don't know knowing anything about contemporary swedish comics [[note]]They also happen to be Swedish comics[[note]]These are two of the most famous comics in Sweden (at least the last 20 years or so). Rocky strips have been in daily newspapers and Arne Anke even got a stage adaption in the 90's, starring one of Sweden's most popular comedians.[[/note]], Arne Anka is drinking a beer on almost EVERY single cover while Rocky often alternates between fairly harmless to featuring alcohol, naked breasts and at least one where he actually has characters are often seen drinking, vomiting and [[FlippingTheBird giving you the finger]] right on the cover.sex.
2nd Jan '16 6:47:21 PM Dhaka-dice
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** Even if you don't know anything about contemporary swedish comics [[note]]They also happen to be two of the most famous comics in Sweden (at least the last 20 years or so). Rocky strips have been in daily newspapers and Arne Anke even got a stage adaption in the 90's, starring one of Sweden's most popular comedians.[[/note]], Rocky often has characters are often seen drinking, vomiting and [[FlippingTheBird giving you the finger]] right on the cover.
14th Nov '15 12:13:43 PM StFan
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* ''{{We 3}}'', by Creator/GrantMorrison, is about three talking animals trying to find their way home; the covers feature "missing pets" notices written in childlike style. Kids'll love it, right? Sure! Except for the scenes featuring the cybernetic animal soldiers literally ''tearing apart the soldiers meant to come kill them'', the part where [[spoiler: the rabbit ''explodes while hurling itself at a car'']], and all sorts of graphic violence in between. Oh, and it's being adapted into a movie directed by the guy who made ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda''. Prepare for some traumatized children... As if the Creator/{{Vertigo|Comics}} label wasn't a warning already...

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* ''{{We ''ComicBook/{{WE 3}}'', by Creator/GrantMorrison, is about three talking animals trying to find their way home; the covers feature "missing pets" notices written in childlike style. Kids'll love it, right? Sure! Except for the scenes featuring the cybernetic animal soldiers literally ''tearing apart the soldiers meant to come kill them'', the part where [[spoiler: the rabbit ''explodes while hurling itself at a car'']], and all sorts of graphic violence in between. Oh, and it's being adapted into a movie directed by the guy who made ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda''. Prepare for some traumatized children... As if the Creator/{{Vertigo|Comics}} label wasn't a warning already...
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