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'''You'd Expect''': The neighbour would keep her mouth shut, especially given all the dangerous nonsense the city has been through over the past few years, and more recently from Kraven's forces specifically. Maybe call the cops, or use the Spidey app intended for precisely \\
'''Instead''': She sticks her head out the window and angrily yells "What's going on out there?" at MJ. MJ tries to tell the neighbour to be quiet, and the neighbour just yells louder. Which could easily get the neighbour ''killed'' if MJ was dangerous. The neighbour didn't start yelling when some armed weirdo stood on her driveway, but a normal woman clearly trying to be stealthy was enough to set the neighbour off. \\
'''The Result:''' Kraven's men nearly kill MJ. Symbiote Peter saves (and terrifies) MJ and leaves. MJ tells the neighbour to be quiet and stay inside, and the neighbour suddenly decides to be sensible.

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'''You'd Expect''': The neighbour would keep her mouth shut, especially given all the dangerous nonsense the city has been through over the past few years, and more recently from Kraven's forces specifically. Maybe call the cops, or use the Spidey app intended for precisely ''precisely this kind of emergency''.\\
'''Instead''': She sticks her head out the window and angrily yells "What's going on out there?" at MJ. MJ tries to tell the neighbour to be quiet, and the neighbour just yells louder."You don't tell me to shush!". Which could easily get the neighbour ''killed'' if MJ was dangerous. The neighbour didn't start yelling when some armed weirdo stood on her driveway, but a normal woman clearly trying to be stealthy avoid trouble was enough to set the neighbour off. \\
'''The Result:''' Kraven's men women nearly kill kills MJ. Symbiote Peter saves (and terrifies) MJ and leaves. MJ tells the neighbour to be quiet and stay inside, and the neighbour suddenly decides to be sensible.

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** When Joel is being escorted out of Saint Mary's Hospital by Ethan, Joel gets the best of Ethan and holds him at gunpoint, asking where the operating room is and shooting him in the midsection twice.\\

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** When Ethan escorts Joel is being escorted out of Saint Mary's Hospital by Ethan, Hospital, Joel gets the best of Ethan and holds him at gunpoint, asking asks where the operating room is and shooting shoots Ethan him in the midsection twice.\\


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* ''VideoGame/MarvelsSpiderMan2'':
** Kraven's men start closing in on Peter's suburban home. MJ tries to sneak up on one (a woman, actually) with MJ's high-tech stun gun in plain view. A neighbour sees MJ out the window.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The neighbour would keep her mouth shut, especially given all the dangerous nonsense the city has been through over the past few years, and more recently from Kraven's forces specifically. Maybe call the cops, or use the Spidey app intended for precisely \\
'''Instead''': She sticks her head out the window and angrily yells "What's going on out there?" at MJ. MJ tries to tell the neighbour to be quiet, and the neighbour just yells louder. Which could easily get the neighbour ''killed'' if MJ was dangerous. The neighbour didn't start yelling when some armed weirdo stood on her driveway, but a normal woman clearly trying to be stealthy was enough to set the neighbour off. \\
'''The Result:''' Kraven's men nearly kill MJ. Symbiote Peter saves (and terrifies) MJ and leaves. MJ tells the neighbour to be quiet and stay inside, and the neighbour suddenly decides to be sensible.

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* ''VideoGame/LikeADragon''[=/=]''Yakuza'':
** ''VideoGame/Yakuza4'':
*** During the Ueno Seiwa Massacre, Saejima has just attacked and left, [[spoiler: not knowing that he was actually using rubber bullets and that all the people he "killed" were still alive. With Saejima gone, Katsuragi gets to work making the massacre look like it really happened.]]\\
'''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: That Katsuragi would try and shoot where the rubber bullets hit each member to cover up their use, or at least aim the shots inconsistently as to not arouse suspicions and cover up the rubber bullet wounds some other way.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He shoots all of them with clean, perfect headshots and makes no attempts to cover up the rubber bullet wounds.]]\\
'''As A Result:''' [[spoiler: Munakata, the Deputy Commissioner of the Police, [[AwesomenessByAnalysis quickly realizes that the whole thing was a]] FrameUp due to the presence of the rubber bullet wounds, which only the police have access to, and the fact that Saejima would need ImprobableAimingSkills to get consistent headshots going against a entire group of Yakuza, ambush or not. He then proceeds to {{Blackmail}} Katsuragi into being his pawn.]]\\
'''Even Worse:''' [[spoiler: If Munakata wasn't a DirtyCop it probably would have gone worse for Katsuragi, since he'd not only lose his inside man on the force but his entire plan would have fallen apart, as Saejima would get off on attempted murder charges while Katsuragi would be exposed, likely kicked out of the Ueno Seiwa Clan for the murder of his fellow members, and more than likely go to jail and be targeted by his former clan.]]
*** Akiyama's money. He does make a good case for not putting it in a bank due to not trusting them, and he has so much he doesn't need to invest it in anything.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' He would hide it in hard-to-breach combination safes, preferably stowed in separate locations with different combinations.\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler:He has all ¥100 Billion hidden in a single safe behind a bookshelf in his unlocked office. The safe is only opened by pressing a button hidden behind a book on the bookshelf.]]\\
'''As A Result:''' [[spoiler:Kido stumbles upon it since Akiyama keeps his front door unlocked, allowing him to report it to Arai, and it all gets stolen by Katsuragi.]]
*** Tanimura's "Bridge" substory chain has one of the biggest human traffickers in Asia hiding as Yuji Katsuura, a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity philanthropist]] and champion of women's rights, has killed anyone who got too close to him and has sent hitmen after Tanimura and Saki-chan. During the "Successor" substory, Tanimura lures a group of hitmen into Pink Alley to beat them down before having them call it into their boss that [[FakingTheDead he's dead.]] This allows their boss to make a public appearance at Millennium Tower.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The boss would be smart enough to smash his phone the moment the hitman called it in and get a new one since he's that rich so that when Tanimura uses the hitman's number, it just says that line has been disconnected.\\
'''Instead:''' He keeps the same phone that has the hitman's number on it, allowing Tanimura to prove it's him.\\
'''As A Result:''' Tanimura beats down his goons, has a Chase Battle with him and brings down his sex trafficking empire, [[spoiler: as well as avenge his biological father.]]
** ''VideoGame/Yakuza6'':
*** At the end of the previous game, Haruka's regrets with becoming an idol had piled on very high, and she had gone through much stress and another yakuza incident. By the time of her debut concert, she could no longer endure being away from her family.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Haruka to quietly retire before or after the concert.\\
'''Or''': Haruka to make a quick announcement that she's retiring during the concert before running off.\\
'''Instead''': Haruka makes a long confession during the concert, in which she reveals being raised by a former yakuza, despite being warned by Park about the damage it could cause.\\
'''Result''': While her mid-concert retirement saves Kiryu's life, her reputation goes up in flames. Eventually, the press find where she lives and backlash becomes directed to the orphanage as well.\\
'''Worse''': Kiryu was arrested and willingly accepted being sentenced for his involvement in the previous game's events, leaving Haruka with no trusted adults around when the fallout becomes worse, leading to her running away to spare her siblings from the media. This causes her to end up in Hiroshima and get in more trouble later on, setting off many of the game's events.
*** In Chapter 5, Nagumo and Kiryu enter a sauna wearing balaclavas. This, combined with their full-body clothing, makes them both quite heated and Nagumo wants to cool off.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Nagumo to head to a more secluded area to remove his mask.\\
'''Or''': Bear with the heat like Kiryu until they are in a better position.\\
'''Instead''': Nagumo immediately rips his mask off in the middle of the room, which causes [[spoiler:Masuzoe to recognize him, compromising their stealthy approach and letting their involvement be known to both the Tojo and the Yomei]].



** And in the second instance of this, it gets even worse: If you are able to redirect the electricity to the lightning rod, the culprit, who is in the control booth and could clearly see electricity now dancing around the room and therefore that it’s dangerous to leave…\\

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** And in the second instance of this, it gets even worse: If you are able to redirect the electricity to the lightning rod, the culprit, who is in the control booth and could clearly see electricity now dancing around the room and therefore that it’s dangerous to leave…\\leave…\\



* ''VideoGame/{{Yakuza}}'':
** ''VideoGame/Yakuza4'':
*** During the Ueno Seiwa Massacre, Saejima has just attacked and left, [[spoiler: not knowing that he was actually using rubber bullets and that all the people he "killed" were still alive. With Saejima gone, Katsuragi gets to work making the massacre look like it really happened.]]\\
'''You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: That Katsuragi would try and shoot where the rubber bullets hit each member to cover up their use, or at least aim the shots inconsistently as to not arouse suspicions and cover up the rubber bullet wounds some other way.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He shoots all of them with clean, perfect headshots and makes no attempts to cover up the rubber bullet wounds.]]\\
'''As A Result:''' [[spoiler: Munakata, the Deputy Commissioner of the Police, [[AwesomenessByAnalysis quickly realizes that the whole thing was a]] FrameUp due to the presence of the rubber bullet wounds, which only the police have access to, and the fact that Saejima would need ImprobableAimingSkills to get consistent headshots going against a entire group of Yakuza, ambush or not. He then proceeds to {{Blackmail}} Katsuragi into being his pawn.]]\\
'''Even Worse:''' [[spoiler: If Munakata wasn't a DirtyCop it probably would have gone worse for Katsuragi, since he'd not only lose his inside man on the force but his entire plan would have fallen apart, as Saejima would get off on attempted murder charges while Katsuragi would be exposed, likely kicked out of the Ueno Seiwa Clan for the murder of his fellow members, and more than likely go to jail and be targeted by his former clan.]]
*** Akiyama's money. He does make a good case for not putting it in a bank due to not trusting them, and he has so much he doesn't need to invest it in anything.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' He would hide it in hard-to-breach combination safes, preferably stowed in separate locations with different combinations.\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler:He has all ¥100 Billion hidden in a single safe behind a bookshelf in his unlocked office. The safe is only opened by pressing a button hidden behind a book on the bookshelf.]]\\
'''As A Result:''' [[spoiler:Kido stumbles upon it since Akiyama keeps his front door unlocked, allowing him to report it to Arai, and it all gets stolen by Katsuragi.]]
*** Tanimura's "Bridge" substory chain has one of the biggest human traffickers in Asia hiding as Yuji Katsuura, a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity philanthropist]] and champion of women's rights, has killed anyone who got too close to him and has sent hitmen after Tanimura and Saki-chan. During the "Successor" substory, Tanimura lures a group of hitmen into Pink Alley to beat them down before having them call it into their boss that [[FakingTheDead he's dead.]] This allows their boss to make a public appearance at Millennium Tower.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The boss would be smart enough to smash his phone the moment the hitman called it in and get a new one since he's that rich so that when Tanimura uses the hitman's number, it just says that line has been disconnected.\\
'''Instead:''' He keeps the same phone that has the hitman's number on it, allowing Tanimura to prove it's him.\\
'''As A Result:''' Tanimura beats down his goons, has a Chase Battle with him and brings down his sex trafficking empire, [[spoiler: as well as avenge his biological father.]]
** ''VideoGame/Yakuza6'':
*** At the end of the previous game, Haruka's regrets with becoming an idol had piled on very high, and she had gone through much stress and another yakuza incident. By the time of her debut concert, she could no longer endure being away from her family.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Haruka to quietly retire before or after the concert.\\
'''Or''': Haruka to make a quick announcement that she's retiring during the concert before running off.\\
'''Instead''': Haruka makes a long confession during the concert, in which she reveals being raised by a former yakuza, despite being warned by Park about the damage it could cause.\\
'''Result''': While her mid-concert retirement saves Kiryu's life, her reputation goes up in flames. Eventually, the press find where she lives and backlash becomes directed to the orphanage as well.\\
'''Worse''': Kiryu was arrested and willingly accepted being sentenced for his involvement in the previous game's events, leaving Haruka with no trusted adults around when the fallout becomes worse, leading to her running away to spare her siblings from the media. This causes her to end up in Hiroshima and get in more trouble later on, setting off many of the game's events.
*** In Chapter 5, Nagumo and Kiryu enter a sauna wearing balaclavas. This, combined with their full-body clothing, makes them both quite heated and Nagumo wants to cool off.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Nagumo to head to a more secluded area to remove his mask.\\
'''Or''': Bear with the heat like Kiryu until they are in a better position.\\
'''Instead''': Nagumo immediately rips his mask off in the middle of the room, which causes [[spoiler:Masuzoe to recognize him, compromising their stealthy approach and letting their involvement be known to both the Tojo and the Yomei]].
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'''End Result:''' The blimp explodes and although Sly isn't dead, he ends up [[TrappedInThePast trapped in Ancient Egypt]] [[Cliffhanger without a known]] [[DownerEnding way to escape]]. And his friends can't even do ANYTHING to save him, because as pointed out by Bentley, they need to KNOW which time period he's even in to use the time machine. While Le Paradox gets karma and is sent to prison for life, it's Sly's stupidity and kindness that allowed Le Paradox to finally get rid of him in the first place, thus in a way, allowing him [[TheBadGuyWins to squeeze out a significant victory over the Cooper Gang]]. It's just like what Clockwerk said back in the first game!

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'''End Result:''' The blimp explodes and although Sly isn't dead, he ends up [[TrappedInThePast trapped in Ancient Egypt]] [[Cliffhanger [[{{Cliffhanger}} without a known]] [[DownerEnding way to escape]]. And his friends can't even do ANYTHING to save him, because as pointed out by Bentley, they need to KNOW which time period he's even in to use the time machine. While Le Paradox gets karma and is sent to prison for life, it's Sly's stupidity and kindness that allowed Le Paradox to finally get rid of him in the first place, thus in a way, allowing him [[TheBadGuyWins to squeeze out a significant victory over the Cooper Gang]]. It's just like what Clockwerk said back in the first game!



* ''[[Videogame/SoulSeries Soul Edge]]'': Siegfried had just killed a knight who, unbeknownst to him, was his father. He has since been filled with delusions of looking for his father's killer. Meanwhile, Sophitia and Taki had just defeated Cervantes, who left the male half of the Soul Edge behind. The male half of the Soul Edge pretends to be Frederick to enable Siegfried to avenge him.

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*** After Ouroboros flip Colony Lambda onto its back and destroy its Flame Clock, Isurd emerges from the Ferronis. Taion offers his life as [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou penance]] for his strategy getting [[TheLostLenore Nimue killed]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Isurd would take the opportunity to kill his former protégé. [[spoiler:In reality, this Isurd is a fake created by Consul J. He had the perfect opportunity to kill an Ouroboros and get away with it.]]\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't. [[spoiler:Consul J disintegrates the false Isurd, and reveals himself to be Joran, who had sacrificed himself to save Lanz years ago. He brags about his new power as Moebius and taunts Lanz for grieving over him.]]\\
'''The Result:''' [[spoiler:Ouroboros defeats Consul J and Taion makes amends with the real Isurd.]]\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' Later on in the game, Ouroboros journeys to Keves Castle to destroy its [[{{Superweapon}} Annihilator]] and [[spoiler:Joran attempts to stop them while Interlinking with D. Unfortunately, the Annihilator is destroyed thanks to Taion and Eunie successfully pulling a KansasCityShuffle.]] This would not have happened if Taion was killed at Lambda.



'''It Gets Worse:''' After N kills some of the people that tried to escape the Agnus Castle prison, he prepares to kill Noah and the party as well, but notices Mio's Homecoming tattoo, since she only has a few months left before the ceremony, and decides to imprison the party instead, while having a separate cell for Mio, so that when Mio dies due to [[DeaderThanDead people dying for good in a Homecoming Ceremony]], [[HopeCrusher he can break Noah's spirit]] and then behead him afterwards, unaware it's actually M who [[spoiler:switched bodies with Mio since she doesn't want to live forever as a Moebius]], which if it hadn't been the case and [[spoiler: Mio]] actually died, [[TheBadGuyWins it would've actually ended uo being an "It Gets Better" for the villains instead]], as not only would Noah get decapitated, and the rest of the party getting executed, Moebius would've been able to use the Annihlator to destroy The City (due to [[spoiler: Mio]] as [[spoiler: M]] never having warned Monica and Ghondor about the fact that Shania sold out The City's location to Moebius), and with it, the Lost Numbers, and the cycle of Moebius continues as if Vandham's forcing himself between Noah and Mio's teams to stop them from fighting in the ForeverWar never happened.
*** After Ouroboros flip Colony Lambda onto its back and destroy its Flame Clock, Isurd emerges from the Ferronis. Taion offers his life as [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou penance]] for his strategy getting [[TheLostLenore Nimue killed]].\\
'''You'd expect:''' Isurd would take the opportunity to kill his former protégé. [[spoiler:In reality, this Isurd is a fake created by Consul J. He had the perfect opportunity to kill an Ouroboros and get away with it.]]\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't. [[spoiler:Consul J disintegrates the false Isurd, and reveals himself to be Joran, who had sacrificed himself to save Lanz years ago. He brags about his new power as Moebius and taunts Lanz for grieving over him.]]\\
'''The result:''' [[spoiler:Ouroboros defeats Consul J and Taion makes amends with the real Isurd.]]\\
'''It gets worse:''' Later on in the game, Ouroboros journeys to Keves Castle to destroy its [[{{Superweapon}} Annihilator]]. [[spoiler:J attempts to stop them while Interlinking with D. Unfortunately, the Annihilator is destroyed thanks to Taion and Eunie successfully pulling a KansasCityShuffle.]] This would not have happened if Taion was killed at Lambda.

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'''It Gets Worse:''' After N kills some of the people that tried to escape the Agnus Castle prison, he prepares to kill Noah and the party as well, but notices Mio's Homecoming tattoo, since she only has a few months left before the ceremony, and decides to imprison the party instead, while having a separate cell for Mio, so that when Mio dies due to [[DeaderThanDead people dying for good in a Homecoming Ceremony]], [[HopeCrusher he can break Noah's spirit]] and then behead him afterwards, unaware it's actually M who [[spoiler:switched bodies with Mio since she doesn't want to live forever as a Moebius]], which if it hadn't been the case and [[spoiler: Mio]] [[spoiler:Mio]] actually died, [[TheBadGuyWins it would've actually ended uo up being an "It Gets Better" for the villains instead]], as not only would Noah get decapitated, decapitated and the rest of the party getting executed, Moebius would've been able to use the Annihlator to destroy The City (due to [[spoiler: Mio]] [[spoiler:Mio]] as [[spoiler: M]] never having warned Monica and Ghondor about the fact that Shania sold out The City's location to Moebius), and with it, the Lost Numbers, and the cycle of Moebius continues as if Vandham's forcing himself between Noah and Mio's teams to stop them from fighting in the ForeverWar never happened.
*** After Ouroboros flip Colony Lambda onto its back and destroy its Flame Clock, Isurd emerges from the Ferronis. Taion offers his life as [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou penance]] for his strategy getting [[TheLostLenore Nimue killed]].\\
'''You'd expect:''' Isurd would take the opportunity to kill his former protégé. [[spoiler:In reality, this Isurd is a fake created by Consul J. He had the perfect opportunity to kill an Ouroboros and get away with it.]]\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't. [[spoiler:Consul J disintegrates the false Isurd, and reveals himself to be Joran, who had sacrificed himself to save Lanz years ago. He brags about his new power as Moebius and taunts Lanz for grieving over him.]]\\
'''The result:''' [[spoiler:Ouroboros defeats Consul J and Taion makes amends with the real Isurd.]]\\
'''It gets worse:''' Later on in the game, Ouroboros journeys to Keves Castle to destroy its [[{{Superweapon}} Annihilator]]. [[spoiler:J attempts to stop them while Interlinking with D. Unfortunately, the Annihilator is destroyed thanks to Taion and Eunie successfully pulling a KansasCityShuffle.]] This would not have happened if Taion was killed at Lambda.
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'''It Gets Worse:''' After N kills some of the people that tried to escape the Agnus Castle prison, he prepares to kill Noah and the party as well, but notices Mio's Homecoming tattoo, since she only has a few months left before the ceremony, and decides to imprison the party instead, while having a separate cell for Mio, so that when Mio dies due to [[DeaderThanDead people dying for good in a Homecoming Ceremony]], [[HopeCrusher he can break Noah's spirit]] and then behead him afterwards, unaware it's actually M who [[spoiler:switched bodies with Mio since she doesn't want to live forever as a Moebius]], which if it hadn't been the case and [[spoiler: Mio]] actually died, it would've actually ended uo being an "It Gets Better" for the villains instead, [[TheBadGuyWins as not only would Noah get decapitated, and the rest of the party getting executed, Moebius would've been able to use the Annihlator to destroy The City (due to [[spoiler: Mio]] as [[spoiler: M]] never having warned Monica and Ghondor about the fact that Shania sold out The City's location to Moebius), and with it, the Lost Numbers, and the cycle of Moebius continues as if Vandham's forcing himself between Noah and Mio's teams to stop them from fighting in the ForeverWar never happened]].

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'''It Gets Worse:''' After N kills some of the people that tried to escape the Agnus Castle prison, he prepares to kill Noah and the party as well, but notices Mio's Homecoming tattoo, since she only has a few months left before the ceremony, and decides to imprison the party instead, while having a separate cell for Mio, so that when Mio dies due to [[DeaderThanDead people dying for good in a Homecoming Ceremony]], [[HopeCrusher he can break Noah's spirit]] and then behead him afterwards, unaware it's actually M who [[spoiler:switched bodies with Mio since she doesn't want to live forever as a Moebius]], which if it hadn't been the case and [[spoiler: Mio]] actually died, [[TheBadGuyWins it would've actually ended uo being an "It Gets Better" for the villains instead, [[TheBadGuyWins instead]], as not only would Noah get decapitated, and the rest of the party getting executed, Moebius would've been able to use the Annihlator to destroy The City (due to [[spoiler: Mio]] as [[spoiler: M]] never having warned Monica and Ghondor about the fact that Shania sold out The City's location to Moebius), and with it, the Lost Numbers, and the cycle of Moebius continues as if Vandham's forcing himself between Noah and Mio's teams to stop them from fighting in the ForeverWar never happened]].happened.
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'''It Gets Worse:''' After N kills some of the people that tried to escape the Agnus Castle prison, he prepares to kill Noah and the party as well, but notices Mio's Homecoming tattoo, since she only has a few months left before the ceremony, and decides to imprison the party instead, while having a separate cell for Mio, so that when Mio dies due to [[DeaderThanDead people dying for good in a Homecoming Ceremony]], [[HopeCrusher he can break Noah's spirit]] and then behead him afterwards, unaware it's actually M who [[spoiler:switched bodies with Mio since she doesn't want to live forever as a Moebius]].

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'''It Gets Worse:''' After N kills some of the people that tried to escape the Agnus Castle prison, he prepares to kill Noah and the party as well, but notices Mio's Homecoming tattoo, since she only has a few months left before the ceremony, and decides to imprison the party instead, while having a separate cell for Mio, so that when Mio dies due to [[DeaderThanDead people dying for good in a Homecoming Ceremony]], [[HopeCrusher he can break Noah's spirit]] and then behead him afterwards, unaware it's actually M who [[spoiler:switched bodies with Mio since she doesn't want to live forever as a Moebius]].Moebius]], which if it hadn't been the case and [[spoiler: Mio]] actually died, it would've actually ended uo being an "It Gets Better" for the villains instead, [[TheBadGuyWins as not only would Noah get decapitated, and the rest of the party getting executed, Moebius would've been able to use the Annihlator to destroy The City (due to [[spoiler: Mio]] as [[spoiler: M]] never having warned Monica and Ghondor about the fact that Shania sold out The City's location to Moebius), and with it, the Lost Numbers, and the cycle of Moebius continues as if Vandham's forcing himself between Noah and Mio's teams to stop them from fighting in the ForeverWar never happened]].
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** '''Also''': Some of them are wearing jackets with the name and logo of their organization, the WLF (Washington Liberation Front) on them, making it easy for them to be tracked down.

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* ''VideoGame/SleepingDogs'': The entire Sun On Yee leadership. All of them have gathered together for [[spoiler:Uncle Po's funeral]]. This comes after ''two'' attempts on Uncle Po's life and on both occasions they didn't have nearly enough protection available.\\

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** During the Journey for the Dawn, [[TheHeavy Arcanette]] is revealed to [[spoiler:be the true identity of Sister Mindt, the leader of the Moonshade Order posing as a kind-hearted cleric]]. Arcanette has found out that the party has found [[spoiler:both pieces of Alpates' Mirror, which can relight the Sacred Flames the Order has quenched to resurrect [[BigBad Vide]]]], and plans to stop the travelers by killing them.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Arcanette to orchestrate a surprise-attack on the party while their guard is down.\\
'''Instead:''' She approaches the party and fully reveals her true colours to them before taking them on.\\
'''The Result:''' [[TooDumbToLive She gets killed by them.]]\\
'''Extra Points:''' Her motive for revealing her true nature to them was just because she [[EvilIsPetty wanted to get a reaction]] out of [[spoiler:Temenos]]. Well, [[GoneHorriblyRight she got what she wanted, but not the way she planned]].
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'''Instead''': They gladly go along with it, calling it "initiative" for their business.\\

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'''Instead''': They gladly go along with it, calling it "initiative" "innovative" for their business.its time.\\
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'''The Result''': ''Thousands'' of innocent children are cruelly [[WouldHurtAChild experimented on by their scientists for future toy inventions]]. It's no wonder they went out of business!

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'''The Result''': ''Thousands'' of innocent children are cruelly [[WouldHurtAChild experimented on by their scientists for future toy inventions]]. It's no wonder they went out of business!got shut down!
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* ''VideoGame/PoppyPlaytime'':
** Ever since the day it opened, back when it was still in business, Playtime Co. has put emphasis on children, working with various orphanages and foster care companies to adopt their charges, claiming to give them all good homes and loving families, complete with an on-site "daycare".\\
'''You'd Expect''': At least ''some'' of the agencies to be suspicious, wondering why they're so insistent on taking in ''all'' the orphans.\\
'''Instead''': They gladly go along with it, calling it "initiative" for their business.\\
'''The Result''': ''Thousands'' of innocent children are cruelly [[WouldHurtAChild experimented on by their scientists for future toy inventions]]. It's no wonder they went out of business!

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'''Instead:''' He can't help but childishly gush over how "awesome" the destruction was. This presses Octavio's buttons, causing him to actually PUSH a button (which Sly tried to get him to give to them) that explodes an entire building, likely killing many innocent people. [[SarcasmMode Nice going, Murray]].

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'''Instead:''' He can't help but childishly gush over how "awesome" the destruction was. This presses Octavio's buttons, causing him to actually PUSH a button (which Sly tried to get him to give to them) that explodes an entire building, likely killing many innocent people. It also prompts Bentley to [[YouMonster call Octavio a monster]], which triggers the latter into kicking the former out of his wheelchair and forces Murray to make a decision between saving his friends and staying committed to his training. [[SarcasmMode Nice going, Murray]].\\
'''Fortunately:''' Murray chooses the former and proceeds to beat up the lion for harming his friends, which allows Carmelita an easier time in arresting Octavio, getting the mafia boss out of the way.
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* ''VisualNovel/PassportToRomance'':
** Many players hate the premium option in Chapter 3, when Elliot suggests trespassing into the restoration room in the Louvre just to see the Mona Lisa.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Charlie would ask the employees when the Mona Lisa will be available to view again.\\
'''Instead''': They, along with Marisa and Sumire, go with Elliot's suggestion and break into the restoration room while ''recording the whole event''.
** In Chapter 6, Yvette, ''[[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully]]'', scolds Charlie for not knowing the full names of their travel companions except Elliot, whose last name is already revealed in Chapter 1 for free.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Charlie would tell them the truth: Wanderlust needs their full names for the website.\\
'''Instead''': The player has to purchase a premium option to have a game of Truth or Dare (a very recurrent trope for Choices novels) and learn their last names sans Elliot's without telling them.
** In Chapter 10, the gang decide to go clubbing knowing very well that Ahmed is on thin ice with his coach for opting to travel without the team, on top of having an involuntary delay during the train ride.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The gang would skip the club and let Ahmed rest before his game, since many professional football players must take a focus time of at least 12 hours prior a game.\\
'''You'd Further Expect''': That even if the rest of the group decided to go out anyway, Ahmed, who is familiar with the demands of professional sports, would stay in to make sure he's rested, even though it means missing a fun night with his friends. In fact, he might just start off by suggesting they go out without him (rather than ask them to stay in with him) so that they won't have to miss out, and meanwhile he can take advantage of the alone time to start getting into the right mindset for the next day's game. (For that matter, Ahmed should really have split off and gone to whatever accommodations had been arranged for the team in the first place, rather than staying the night with his friends.)\\
'''Instead''': They, Ahmed included, go clubbing and end up not getting back until after midnight. The next morning, they sleep through all their alarms, making Ahmed arrive late and miss warm ups.
** In Chapter 12, the gang gets in trouble by pissing off Yvette's biggest sponsors, Carlisle Montgomery and Bronwyn Alby. The most glaring example is Elliot losing a bet against Carlisle to "defend Ahmed".\\
'''You'd Expect''': Elliot would take in account that his brother already gave him an ultimatum about his travel budget, and ignore Carlisle's taunts.\\
'''Instead''': Elliot bets on the regatta and ends up losing 1,000 euros, making Charlie and Marisa gamble in Carlisle's casino.\\
'''As a Result''': Once Charlie wins Elliot's money back, [[SoreLoser Carlisle gets upset and takes it out on Yvette]], who is forced to make Charlie continue the vlog without the rest of the gang, instead of firing them at Carlisle's request.
** In Chapter 15, Charlie starts a new travel vlog after quitting their job at ''Voyage'' in response to Yvette firing the rest of the gang.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Charlie would carefully read the terms of usage and avoid any mishaps that could put them in legal trouble with Yvette.\\
'''Instead''': They use the ''Wanderlust'' account to poach viewers from ''Voyage'' to their own vlog series, which is basically stealing subscribers from their former employer, let alone very unethical behavior even for an ex-employee. It's a wonder why the story never established a legal contract between Charlie and ''Voyage'', [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome because Yvette could have easily sued them]].
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They mention in game that the car's headlights wouldn't be effective in the tunnel since all the lights inside went out


** Episode Z-3. Naomi and a DELPHI agent are operating on a reporter who crashed his car while pursuing them. It's night-time, and the crash has destroyed the light system of the tunnel it took place in, so there's zero visibility for the two. They can't move the reporter from the wreckage, and the agent notes that the headlights of his car won't be of any use illuminating the accident scene in its current position.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' It to occur to either Naomi or the agent that they could simply reverse the car into a position where they could shine the headlights on the patient. Hey presto, lighting problem solved.\\
'''Instead:''' They resort to using a penlight, followed by camera flashes, in order to see their patient, which makes the operation that bit more complicated for them and the player.
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It just struck me that the Dahaka would probably just kill her in his place, and then the Prince is back where he started and is SOL.


** Midway through the game, [[spoiler:the Prince kills the Empress of Time, only to discover that her very death is what creates the Sands of Time in the first place. He then gets his hands on an ancient artifact that allows him to be in two places at once in his own timestream, and uses it to pull a KillAndReplace on his past self, giving him a second chance to change his destiny.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Prince to [[spoiler:just leave the island. There's no good reason to get into any sort of confrontation with the Empress at this point since just ''not killing her'' will solve all of his problems and he doesn't want to hurt her anyway.]]\\
'''Instead''': [[spoiler:The Prince confronts the Empress anyway. Predictably, he is forced to kill her in the bad ending, and she is only spared by the interference of the Dahaka in the good ending.]]
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'''Instead:''' Most of them do, if a little aggressively. However, one of them decides, "Hey, [[TooDumbToLive let's sicc a knife on the Beastlings right in front of the white lion who can easily maul us all]]".\\

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'''Instead:''' Most of them do, [[FantasticRacism if a little aggressively.aggressively]]. However, one of them decides, "Hey, [[TooDumbToLive let's sicc a knife on the Beastlings right in front of the white lion who can easily maul us all]]".\\
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* ''VideoGame/OctopathTravelerII'':
** Near the beginning of Ochette's route, a group of humans want the Beastlings to give them more land. The Beastlings are watched over by Juvah the white lion, who is none too happy about the humans' greed.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' All the humans in the group to try to resolve the situation diplomatically.\\
'''Instead:''' Most of them do, if a little aggressively. However, one of them decides, "Hey, [[TooDumbToLive let's sicc a knife on the Beastlings right in front of the white lion who can easily maul us all]]".\\
'''Fortunately:''' Ochette arrives in time to drive the humans off.
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'''You'd Expect''': The Prince to [[spoiler:just leave the island. There's no good reason to get into any sort of confrontation with the Empress at this point since just ''not killing her'' will solve all of his problems and he doesn't want to hurt her anyway.]]

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'''You'd Expect''': The Prince to [[spoiler:just leave the island. There's no good reason to get into any sort of confrontation with the Empress at this point since just ''not killing her'' will solve all of his problems and he doesn't want to hurt her anyway.]]]]\\

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** Later on, the Prince has the Empress cornered in the present. The Prince knows that killing the Empress will [[spoiler:cause her remains to become the Sands of Time]], and doing this in the present day will [[spoiler:prevent him from releasing them in Azad 7 years ago]] and save him from his fate, but he does not want to kill the Empress and repeatedly tries to get her to stand down. The Empress herself knows all of the above as well.\\

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** Later on, Midway through the game, [[spoiler:the Prince kills the Empress of Time, only to discover that her very death is what creates the Sands of Time in the first place. He then gets his hands on an ancient artifact that allows him to be in two places at once in his own timestream, and uses it to pull a KillAndReplace on his past self, giving him a second chance to change his destiny.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Prince to [[spoiler:just leave the island. There's no good reason to get into any sort of confrontation with the Empress at this point since just ''not killing her'' will solve all of his problems and he doesn't want to hurt her anyway.]]
'''Instead''': [[spoiler:The Prince confronts the Empress anyway. Predictably, he is forced to kill her in the bad ending, and she is only spared by the interference of the Dahaka in the good ending.]]
** At the end of the game,
the Prince has the Empress cornered in the present. The Prince knows that killing the Empress will [[spoiler:cause her remains to become the Sands of Time]], and doing this in the present day will [[spoiler:prevent him from releasing them in Azad 7 years ago]] and save him from his fate, but he does not want to kill the Empress and repeatedly tries to get her to stand down. The Empress herself knows all of the above as well.\\
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'''Instead''': He uses said ring, which the museum loaned to him, to ''propose to her.'' She takes the opportunity to steal the ring and leaves, meaning Desuhiko's best chance at capturing her has just gotten away. All because he couldn't stop trying to charm women for once in his whole life.

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'''Instead''': He uses said ring, which the museum loaned to him, to ''propose to her.'' She takes the opportunity to steal the real ring and leaves, meaning Desuhiko's best chance at capturing her has just gotten away. All because he couldn't stop trying to charm women for once in his whole life.
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* ''VideoGame/MasterDetectiveArchivesRainCode'': In the DLC chapter, ''Charisma Killed The Cat,'' Desuhiko has successfully lured out the Nine-Tailed Cat and fooled her into swiping a fake version of a valuable ring.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He'd capture her and turn her in (or make sure she won't get away) before revealing the trick and/or flirting with her (as he's prone to do). She's been very elusive, and he has her right in the palm of his hand.\\
'''Instead''': He uses said ring, which the museum loaned to him, to ''propose to her.'' She takes the opportunity to steal the ring and leaves, meaning Desuhiko's best chance at capturing her has just gotten away. All because he couldn't stop trying to charm women for once in his whole life.
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'''The Result:''' David easily overpowers Ellie and has lost all patience with her, promising to kill her the next morning. The only reason she didn't get chopped up is because she bit David during the scuffle and tricked him into looking at her bite mark, causing David and James to panic long enough for her to escape.

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'''The Result:''' David easily overpowers Ellie and has lost all patience with her, promising to kill her the next morning. The only reason she didn't get chopped up is because she bit David during the scuffle and tricked him into looking at her bite mark, causing David and James to panic long enough for her to kill James and escape.
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'''Instead:''' The VillainBall comes into full effect: Helgenish stabs Yusufa [[ForcedToWatch in front of Primrose]] right then and there, kicks her off a cliff, watches her bleed to death, and even [[KickTheDog makes fun of her tearful last words]].\\

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'''Instead:''' The VillainBall comes into full effect: Helgenish [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness stabs Yusufa Yusufa]] [[ForcedToWatch in front of Primrose]] right then and there, kicks her off a cliff, watches her bleed to death, and even [[KickTheDog makes fun of her tearful last words]].\\
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One possible lie for Mari falling down the stairs is that she could've seen Sunny's destroyed violin and... just taken it REALLY badly.


'''You'd Expect''': Basil [[spoiler:would dial 911 or whatever emergency services are in this universe since we see they exist in some endings. Even if Mari is dead, at least he and Sunny would have done all they could to save her, and a coroner would have established that it was an accident. They could also lie and say that her old sports injury caused her to fall, since it's implied she would have been able to catch the railing if not for a bad knee]].\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Basil [[spoiler:would dial 911 or whatever emergency services are in this universe since we see they exist in some endings. Even if Mari is dead, at least he and Sunny would have done all they could to save her, and a coroner would have established that it was an accident. They could also lie and say that her old sports injury or shock from seeing Sunny's smashed violin caused her to fall, since it's implied she would have been able to catch the railing if not for a bad knee]].\\
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'''Instead:''' The VillainBall comes into full effect: Helgenish stabs Yusufa [[ForcedToWatch right in front of Primrose]], kicks her off a cliff, watches her bleed to death, and even [[KickTheDog makes fun of her tearful last words]].\\

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'''Instead:''' The VillainBall comes into full effect: Helgenish stabs Yusufa [[ForcedToWatch right in front of Primrose]], Primrose]] right then and there, kicks her off a cliff, watches her bleed to death, and even [[KickTheDog makes fun of her tearful last words]].\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Ellie to go along with it until David decides to let her out of the cage, then run away.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' Ellie to go along with it until David decides to let her out of open the cage, cage door, then make a run away.for it.\\



'''You'd Expect:''' Ethan to either say nothing or give Joel the wrong directions. He's going to die either way.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' Ethan to either say nothing or give Joel the wrong directions. He's going to die either way.no matter what.\\

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