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25th Dec '16 9:03:21 PM treehugger0369
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* With two exceptions (both involving Zeus), every "I fear my son will upstage me" scenario in Myth/GreekMythology. A god/king learns from an oracle "your son with this woman will one day kill you".\\
'''You'd Expect''': That God/king to avoid the woman like the plague and find someone else, or eventually raise the child with the kind of love and affection that would diffuse thoughts of patricide (this is indeed what Zeus did: after failing to prevent her conceivement by ''eating her mother'' Zeus raised Athena with enough love she did not try and kill him; and upon discovering there was another such goddess he did not sire any child until he identified her as Themis, at which point he married her off to Peleus who, being equally GenreSavvy, raised their son Achilles the right way).\\
'''Instead''': That God/king will continue to have kids, then attempt to kill or disown their son, usually picking the laziest method possible rather than one that's guaranteed to work - an act which will only justify their kid committing patricide.

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* With two exceptions (both involving Zeus), every "I fear my son will upstage me" scenario in Myth/GreekMythology. A Every time a god/king learns from an oracle "your son with this woman will one day kill you".\\
'''You'd Expect''': That God/king to avoid the woman like the plague and find someone else, or eventually raise the child with the kind of love and affection that would diffuse thoughts of patricide (this is indeed what Zeus did: after failing to prevent her conceivement by ''eating her mother'' Zeus raised Athena with enough love she did not try and kill him; and upon discovering there was another such goddess he did not sire any child until he identified her as Themis, at which point he married her off to Peleus who, being equally GenreSavvy, raised their son Achilles the right way).patricide.\\
'''Instead''': That God/king will continue to have kids, kids with that woman, then attempt to kill or disown their son, usually picking the laziest method possible rather than one that's guaranteed to work - an act which will only justify their kid committing patricide.patricide.
** In some versions(such as the myth of Perseus), the prophecy is that "This woman's child will kill/overthrow you", without specifying who the father had to be, making the issue more complicated.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The man would straight-up kill the woman, or, failing that, straight-up kill the child.\\
'''Instead:''' They tend to have the same problem with using more roundabout methods to kill the mother or child, or sometimes just try to stay away from them, not realizing that the child [[ExactWords doesn't necessarily have to target them to kill them]].(e.x. Perseus killed his father accidentally with a throwing disc blown by the wind.)
17th Dec '16 8:28:43 AM Materioptikon
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** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming the city of Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshiped himself.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Emperor calls Lorgar and his more devout followers and has a long, quiet talk about why he dislikes the idea of being placed as an icon of worship, convincing them he's not a god and should not be hailed as one, slowly dismantling the church with little fuss and ensuring Lorgar, who is only guilty of ignoring this pet peeve of the Emperor, remains loyal.\\
'''Instead''': He sends the Ultramarines to level Monarchia and then forces the Word Bearers and Lorgar himself to kneel in the ashes to him and forced to denounce their devotion as treason. This sends them all into a spiral of hate that boils over during the Horus Heresy.

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** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers Legion, the Word Bearers, created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming the city of Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshiped himself.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Emperor calls Lorgar and his more devout followers and has a long, quiet talk about why he dislikes the idea of being placed as an icon of worship, convincing them he's not a god and should not be hailed as one, one (especially so if he actually deigns to explain how Chaos actually works). Thus, the church's slowly dismantling the church dismantled with little fuss and ensuring Lorgar, who is only guilty of ignoring this pet peeve of the Emperor, remains loyal.\\
'''Instead''': He sends the Ultramarines Ultramarines, the Bearers' biggest rivals, to level Monarchia Monarchia, and then forces the Word Bearers and Lorgar himself to kneel to him in the ashes to him and forced to denounce their devotion as treason. This sends them all into a spiral of hate that boils over during the Horus Heresy.
3rd Dec '16 1:23:33 PM Materioptikon
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*** The Emperor really did a lot of these, to the point that the Literature/HorusHeresy comes off almost as PayEvilUntoEvil.


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*** The Emperor really did a lot of these, to the point that the Literature/HorusHeresy comes off almost as PayEvilUntoEvil.
3rd Dec '16 1:21:26 PM Materioptikon
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** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming the city of Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshipped himself.\\

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** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming the city of Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshipped worshiped himself.\\
3rd Dec '16 1:17:25 PM Materioptikon
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*** The Emperor really did a lot of these, to the point that the Literature/HorusHeresy comes off almost as PayEvilUntoEvil. See the situation with Lorgar, primarch of the Word Bearers for another excellent example.
** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshipped himself.\\

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*** The Emperor really did a lot of these, to the point that the Literature/HorusHeresy comes off almost as PayEvilUntoEvil. See the situation with Lorgar, primarch of the Word Bearers for another excellent example.\n
** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming the city of Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshipped himself.\\
3rd Dec '16 1:16:56 PM Materioptikon
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** In Lorgar's backstory, he and his followers created a religion revolving around worship of the Emperor, up to transforming Monarchia into a colossal shrine to his glory. As it happens, the Emperor is staunchly irreligious, and particularly hates being worshipped himself.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Emperor calls Lorgar and his more devout followers and has a long, quiet talk about why he dislikes the idea of being placed as an icon of worship, convincing them he's not a god and should not be hailed as one, slowly dismantling the church with little fuss and ensuring Lorgar, who is only guilty of ignoring this pet peeve of the Emperor, remains loyal.\\
'''Instead''': He sends the Ultramarines to level Monarchia and then forces the Word Bearers and Lorgar himself to kneel in the ashes to him and forced to denounce their devotion as treason. This sends them all into a spiral of hate that boils over during the Horus Heresy.
25th Oct '16 5:58:55 PM Berrenta
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* On June 15, 2012, WNKY, the NBC/CBS affiliate in Bowling Green, Kentucky premiered an advertisement for a local licensed sports apparel store it produced, featuring [[EmergencyBroadcast Emergency Alert System]] tones within the ad used in a non-emergency manner and went out over the station's main NBC signal and CBS digital subchannel. On November 5, 2013, the station's owner, Max Media, through its licensee, MMK License, was assessed a $39,000 fine by the FCC.\\
'''You'd Expect''': They'd give Max Media the fine and they'd run off, happy as can be.\\
'''Instead''': The FCC ended up making WNKY launch a local campaign about the EAS through their programs and the station's website, air additional emergency preparation public service announcements, and lease space on their tower to the Warren County Emergency Management agency and the City of Bowling Green for modernized warning equipment.\\
'''For Added Stupidity''': The FCC statement said the fine was a "voluntary contribution to the U.S. Treasury". Everyone at said Treasury ''must'' have been [[FacePalm facepalming]] when they learned of the fine.



'''Instead''': He hurriedly starts his car, shifts into reverse, and floors the gas, driving into a lightpole. Oops!
* Digital Homicide, an idie developer selling games on Steam, quickly gained infamy when [[WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}} Jim Sterling]] did a blind play of ''The Slaughtering Grounds'' and trashed it for being buggy, having bad game design, and massive use of stock assets bought from the Unity story.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Digital Homicide would either take the criticism to heart and improve their game or at the very least, ignore Jim Sterling.\\
'''Instead''': They took his video, uploaded it to their Youtube account, and pasted passive aggressive messages over the video that insulted Jim Sterling at every opprotunity. When Jim Sterling laughed at it, they issued a copyright take down to get the video removed and didn't respond to Jim's counterclaim, which got the video back online anyway.\\
'''In Addition''': Digital Homicide later issued a threat against Jim Sterling that they have a lawyer willing to sue him unless he signed a document stating that he would never talk about them ever again. When Jim wanted to talk to his own lawyer about it before signing anything, Digital Homicide threatened him again before ending the phone call. The situation blew up further when the two held a debate on Skype, which amounted to nothing but Digital Homicide insulting, berating, talking over, and outright mocking Jim for his views and attitude on Digital Homicide and their games. Eventually, while still pumping out crappy games, Digital Homicide actually sued Jim Sterling for mental distress, loss of business, harassment, and pain and suffering.
** The story only gets crazier when months after filing a lawsuit against Jim Sterling, their case was on the verge of being dismissed, so they decided to file for an appeal to keep it going.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Digital Homicide to focus on the lawsuit and nothing else.\\
'''Instead''': They decided to sue 100 Steam users for simply ''giving negative reviews over the company's games.'' Digital Homicide issued a subpoena towards Valve in order to get them to release the personal information of the 100 users so that they could file the lawsuit properly. When Valve refused, Digital Homicide sued them as well!\\
'''The End Result''': Valve completely removed all of Digital Homicide's games on Steam in response, citing that the company was being extremely hostile towards their customers. This, in turn, caused Digital Homicide to lose whatever money they were making and they could no longer afford to file the lawsuits against the Steam users and Valve.[[note]]The lawsuit against Jim Sterling is still pending[[/note]] With Digital Homicide's games yanked off Steam, they admited that the company is completely finished. Some say [[LaserGuidedKarma they had it coming for a long time.]]

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'''Instead''': He hurriedly starts his car, shifts into reverse, and floors the gas, driving into a lightpole. Oops!
* Digital Homicide, an idie developer selling games on Steam, quickly gained infamy when [[WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}} Jim Sterling]] did a blind play of ''The Slaughtering Grounds'' and trashed it for being buggy, having bad game design, and massive use of stock assets bought from the Unity story.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Digital Homicide would either take the criticism to heart and improve their game or at the very least, ignore Jim Sterling.\\
'''Instead''': They took his video, uploaded it to their Youtube account, and pasted passive aggressive messages over the video that insulted Jim Sterling at every opprotunity. When Jim Sterling laughed at it, they issued a copyright take down to get the video removed and didn't respond to Jim's counterclaim, which got the video back online anyway.\\
'''In Addition''': Digital Homicide later issued a threat against Jim Sterling that they have a lawyer willing to sue him unless he signed a document stating that he would never talk about them ever again. When Jim wanted to talk to his own lawyer about it before signing anything, Digital Homicide threatened him again before ending the phone call. The situation blew up further when the two held a debate on Skype, which amounted to nothing but Digital Homicide insulting, berating, talking over, and outright mocking Jim for his views and attitude on Digital Homicide and their games. Eventually, while still pumping out crappy games, Digital Homicide actually sued Jim Sterling for mental distress, loss of business, harassment, and pain and suffering.
** The story only gets crazier when months after filing a lawsuit against Jim Sterling, their case was on the verge of being dismissed, so they decided to file for an appeal to keep it going.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Digital Homicide to focus on the lawsuit and nothing else.\\
'''Instead''': They decided to sue 100 Steam users for simply ''giving negative reviews over the company's games.'' Digital Homicide issued a subpoena towards Valve in order to get them to release the personal information of the 100 users so that they could file the lawsuit properly. When Valve refused, Digital Homicide sued them as well!\\
'''The End Result''': Valve completely removed all of Digital Homicide's games on Steam in response, citing that the company was being extremely hostile towards their customers. This, in turn, caused Digital Homicide to lose whatever money they were making and they could no longer afford to file the lawsuits against the Steam users and Valve.[[note]]The lawsuit against Jim Sterling is still pending[[/note]] With Digital Homicide's games yanked off Steam, they admited that the company is completely finished. Some say [[LaserGuidedKarma they had it coming for a long time.]]
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23rd Oct '16 8:51:56 AM Materioptikon
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'''Or''': Toss the apple to Hestia (she who tends the hearths of Olympus), Demeter (she in charge of all plant life), or maybe even Persephone or Amphrite, to TakeAThirdOption.\\

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'''Or''': Toss the apple to Hestia (she who tends the hearths of Olympus), Demeter (she in charge of all plant life), or maybe even Persephone or Amphrite, Amphritite, to TakeAThirdOption.\\
22nd Oct '16 5:43:17 PM Materioptikon
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'''Or Perhaps Even''': He could have given it to the bride (since the bride is the most beautiful woman in the world in her wedding day) and gain the grudging approval of ''all three'' - Hera's dominion includes marriage - she can't object without mocking her own power; Aphrodite's is love - she has to stay her hand for pretty much the same reason; Athena, as a goddess of intellect, would also probably approve of this display of guile and skill. And to boot, he'd ingratiate himself with the hosts.\\

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'''Or Perhaps Even''': He could have given it to the bride (since the bride is the most beautiful woman in the world in her wedding day) and gain the grudging approval of ''all three'' - three''. Hera's dominion includes marriage - she can't object without mocking her own power; Aphrodite's is love - she has to stay her hand for pretty much the same reason; Athena, as a goddess of intellect, would also probably approve of this display of guile and skill. And to boot, he'd ingratiate himself with the hosts.\\
22nd Oct '16 5:42:48 PM Materioptikon
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* And how 'bout probably the most famous one in mythology? Paris has been chosen as a judge to determine who's the most beautiful at a wedding feast. Aphrodite, Hera and Athena all try to bribe him Hera offers WorldDomination, Athena offers genius smarts and martial skill, and Aphrodite offers the love of the most beautiful woman in the world.\\

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* And how 'bout probably the most famous one in mythology? Paris has been chosen as a judge to determine who's the most beautiful at a wedding feast.feast by giving his choice an apple labeled as "For the Fairest". Aphrodite, Hera and Athena all try to bribe him Hera offers WorldDomination, Athena offers genius smarts and martial skill, and Aphrodite offers the love of the most beautiful woman in the world.\\
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