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It\'s explicitly stated a few times that Gangrel was looking for an excuse to invade Ylisse anyway. Even if the Shepherds hadn\'t forgotten about Maribelle, he would have found another excuse to start a war eventually; plus, the paragraph made it sound as if Chrom and his friends were TOTALLY to blame for basically everything that went to shit in the first half of the game..
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'''Instead''': She panics, Tibarn lets Sothe go and the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the [=NPC=]s into stone]].\\
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room in a huff before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That after Chrom delivered the news about the expedition to everybody in the room, Vaike, Lissa, Chrom himself, or one of the other Shepherds would go look for for Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, and tell her about the mission to Regena Ferox and invite her to join them. It's always good to have a backup healer in case there's the off-chance the main healer (Lissa) falls in battle on the way there. If they had a back up healer, they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she ''never'' even hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked Themis, another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death [[labelnote: spoilers]] unless you play one of the Spot-Pass exclusive missions unlocked after clearing Chapter 25 [[/labelnote]] of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room in a huff before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That after Chrom delivered the news about the expedition to everybody in the room, Vaike, Lissa, Chrom himself, or one of the other Shepherds would go look for for Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, and tell her about the mission to Regena Ferox and invite her to join them. It's always good to have a backup healer in case there's the off-chance the main healer (Lissa) falls in battle on the way there. If they had a back up healer, they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she ''never'' even hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked Themis, another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death [[labelnote: spoilers]] unless you play one of the Spot-Pass exclusive missions unlocked after clearing Chapter 25 [[/labelnote]] of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
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'''Instead''': She panics, Tibarn lets Sothe go and the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the [=NPC=]s into stone]].\\
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room in a huff before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That after Chrom delivered the news about the expedition to everybody in the room, Vaike, Lissa, Chrom himself, or one of the other Shepherds would go look for for Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, and tell her about the mission to Regena Ferox and invite her to join them. It's always good to have a backup healer in case there's the off-chance the main healer (Lissa) falls in battle on the way there. If they had a back up healer, they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she ''never'' even hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked Themis, another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death [[labelnote: spoilers]] unless you play one of the Spot-Pass exclusive missions unlocked after clearing Chapter 25 [[/labelnote]] of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!\\
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room in a huff before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That after Chrom delivered the news about the expedition to everybody in the room, Vaike, Lissa, Chrom himself, or one of the other Shepherds would go look for for Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, and tell her about the mission to Regena Ferox and invite her to join them. It's always good to have a backup healer in case there's the off-chance the main healer (Lissa) falls in battle on the way there. If they had a back up healer, they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she ''never'' even hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked Themis, another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death [[labelnote: spoilers]] unless you play one of the Spot-Pass exclusive missions unlocked after clearing Chapter 25 [[/labelnote]] of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
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'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepherds to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, about the mission to Regena Ferox and invite her to join them, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is the main healer) falls in battle on the way there. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death (unless you play the Spot-Pass mission) of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death (unless you play the Spot-Pass mission) of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
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'''You'd Expect''': That after Chrom delivered the news about the expedition to everybody in the room, Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, Chrom himself, or one of the other Shepherds to tell would go look for for Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, and tell her about the mission to Regena Ferox and invite her to join them, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is the main healer) falls in battle on the way there. them. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one there's the off-chance the main healer (Lissa) falls in battle, so that battle on the way there. If they had a back up healer, they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And shenever ''even'' ''never'' even hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked Themis, another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death(unless [[labelnote: spoilers]] unless you play one of the Spot-Pass mission) exclusive missions unlocked after clearing Chapter 25 [[/labelnote]] of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked Themis, another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begin, which in turn, leads to the death
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** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison in a huff room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
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** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room in a huff room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
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I think Vaike intentionally burped.
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** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike accidentally lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepherds to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, about the mission to Regena Ferox, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way there. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives the King of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepherds to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, about the mission to Regena Ferox, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way there. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives the King of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
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** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike accidentally goes "Can he/she do this?" and lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison in a huff room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepherds to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, about the mission to RegenaFerox, Ferox and invite her to join them, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a the main healer) falls in battle on the way there. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlikeStahl Stahl, one of of the cavaliers, and Miriel, the mage, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, theKing king of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissean-Plegian War begins.begin, which in turn, leads to the death (unless you play the Spot-Pass mission) of Emmeryn, the exault of Ylisse. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Shepherds]]!
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepherds to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier in a huff, about the mission to Regena
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepherds (unlike
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives Gangrel, the
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'''Instead''': She panics, Tibarn lets Sothe go and the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the NPCs into stone]].\\
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'''Instead''': She panics, Tibarn lets Sothe go and the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the NPCs [=NPC=]s into stone]].\\
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'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eldigan to be their king. Eldigan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
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'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eldigan to be their king. Eldigan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, manga and those would pose a HUGE problem if he became the King, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
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** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused), but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
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** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. Shepherds. During that scene, Vaike burps, accidentally lets out a burp, which The Avatar character doesn't mind (and is rather amused), amused)... but Maribelle, the local Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards horse), is so repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, Avatar that she leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox Regna Ferox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the otherShepards Shepherds to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, earlier in a huff, about the mission to Regena Ferox, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox.there. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of theShepards Shepherds (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by thePlegians, Plegians ''and'' falsely accused to being a spy, which gives the King of Plegia a ''very'' convenient excuse to start pointing his fingers at the Ylisseans -- and the Ylissian-Plegian Ylissean-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!Shepherds]]!
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the
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** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and Sothe gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.\\
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** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating instead culminating in an assassination attempt on the Empress.Empress herself. However, this fails spectacularly, and Sothe gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.\\
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'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the NPCs into stone]].\\
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'''Instead''': She panics, Tibarn lets Sothe lives, go and the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the NPCs into stone]].\\
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** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and her boytoy gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.\\
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** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and her boytoy Sothe gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.\\
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'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]\\
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'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]\\
the all-out bloodbath continues until the situation reaches critical mass and [[spoiler: Ashera goes berserk and turns all the NPCs into stone]].\\
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** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and her boytoy gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.
'''You'd Expect''': Micaiah is captured by Sanaki's army, or she at least explains that Pelleas is [[spoiler: under a blood pact with Lekain.]]
'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]
'''You'd Expect''': Micaiah is captured by Sanaki's army, or she at least explains that Pelleas is [[spoiler: under a blood pact with Lekain.]]
'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]
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** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and her boytoy gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.
attempt.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Micaiah is captured by Sanaki's army, or she at least explains that Pelleas is [[spoiler: under a blood pact with Lekain.]]
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'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]
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'''You'd Expect''': Micaiah is captured by Sanaki's army, or she at least explains that Pelleas is [[spoiler: under a blood pact with Lekain.
'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.
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'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it]], despite that a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
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'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it]], despite that a moment ago they were [[WouldHurtAChild willing to kill an innocent child child]] just to get at her.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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'''Instead''': [[BondVillainStupidity He sends her to jail, jail]], where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and her boytoy gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.
'''You'd Expect''': Micaiah is captured by Sanaki's army, or she at least explains that Pelleas is [[spoiler: under a blood pact with Lekain.]]
'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]
** After Micaiah is made general of the Daein army, despite having no combat or leadership experience, she claims to be putting up token defences to please the Senators, then leads an all out assault on the Empress's army instead. Why? So she can divert attention to her real plan: Assassinating the Empress. However, this fails spectacularly, and her boytoy gets captured and nearly dropped to his death because she refused to stop the assassination attempt.
'''You'd Expect''': Micaiah is captured by Sanaki's army, or she at least explains that Pelleas is [[spoiler: under a blood pact with Lekain.]]
'''Instead''': Sothe lives, and Micaiah gets to leave [[WeHaveReserves so she can throw even more of her soldiers at Sanaki's army.]]
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'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, in case there's the off-chance that Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox. It's always good to have a backup healer in case one falls in battle, so that they wouldn't be expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget about Maribelle. And she never ''even'' hears about the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear about this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and when Plegian troops attacked another area in Ylisse, she gets kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
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'''To be fair:''': Soren only insulted the two when Lethe repeatedly insulted them unprovoked first, cannot be blamed for being angered when his friend was hurt, and his team is pretty good at surviving dangerous situations.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: Binding Blade]]''
** In Chapter 3, Roy turns up at Araphen with a small amount of plucky but low-level fighters (and [[CrutchCharacter a really old Paladin]]) while Narcian, King Zephiel, and Idoun (the FinalBoss) are still there. The King and his forces have just finished sacking the place to squash the Lycian Alliance.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Zephiel would at least want to know who was leading the pathetic remnants of the Lycians and, once he found out, to squash them personally. He's more than capable himself even if he didn't have a bunch of manaketes with him at that moment.\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't bother and dismisses Idoun's suggestion to fry them and leaves with her. To his credit, he does order Narcian to take care of it, and as a dragon general Narcian ''would'' tear them apart easily.\\
'''But...''' Narcian hands the job to a knight (who Roy's company ''is'' capable of defeating) so he can go [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty leer at Clarine]].
** In Chapter 3, Roy turns up at Araphen with a small amount of plucky but low-level fighters (and [[CrutchCharacter a really old Paladin]]) while Narcian, King Zephiel, and Idoun (the FinalBoss) are still there. The King and his forces have just finished sacking the place to squash the Lycian Alliance.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Zephiel would at least want to know who was leading the pathetic remnants of the Lycians and, once he found out, to squash them personally. He's more than capable himself even if he didn't have a bunch of manaketes with him at that moment.\\
'''Instead:''' He doesn't bother and dismisses Idoun's suggestion to fry them and leaves with her. To his credit, he does order Narcian to take care of it, and as a dragon general Narcian ''would'' tear them apart easily.\\
'''But...''' Narcian hands the job to a knight (who Roy's company ''is'' capable of defeating) so he can go [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty leer at Clarine]].
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Pretty sure it was Maribelle\'s plan all along to go to Plegia and try to talk sense into them? No one told Ricken about the Risen either and he wasn\'t captured.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind, but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, and ask her to come, because, hello, what if Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox? There wouldn't be anyone else to heal hurt members without expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget Maribelle. And she never even hears the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and is kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind, but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, and ask her to come, because, hello, what if Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox? There wouldn't be anyone else to heal hurt members without expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget Maribelle. And she never even hears the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and is kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind, but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, and ask her to come, because, hello, what if Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox? There wouldn't be anyone else to heal hurt members without expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget Maribelle. And she never even hears the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and is kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
** Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind, but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, and ask her to come, because, hello, what if Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox? There wouldn't be anyone else to heal hurt members without expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget Maribelle. And she never even hears the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and is kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
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'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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'''You'd expect''': Think''': Jarod to would cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''.NiceJobFixingItVillain.NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
**Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind, but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, and ask her to come, because, hello, what if Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox? There wouldn't be anyone else to heal hurt members without expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget Maribelle. And she never even hears the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and is kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders from the previous game, and ''Kurth''.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
**Prior to the beginning of the third level, Chapter 2: "Sheperds", the player character gets introduced to Chrom's millitia, The Shepards. During that scene, Vaike burps, which The Avatar character doesn't mind, but Maribelle, the Troubadour (healer mounted on a horse) of the Shepards repulsed by Vaike and the Avatar, leaves the Shepards' Garrison room before even Chrom returns to deliver the news of the voluntary expedition to Regena Ferrox to set up an alliance with them to counter the problems with Plegia and the zombie creatures called Risen.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vaike, Chrom, Lissa, or one of the other Shepards to tell Maribelle, who left the room earlier, about the mission to Regena Ferox, and ask her to come, because, hello, what if Lissa (who is a healer) falls in battle on the way to Regena Ferox? There wouldn't be anyone else to heal hurt members without expending vulneraries.\\
'''Instead''': They ''completely'' forget Maribelle. And she never even hears the expedition to catch up with the rest of the Shepards (unlike Stahl and Miriel, who were among the last to hear this expedition).\\
'''The Result''': Maribelle is left behind in Ylisse, and is kidnapped by the Plegians, and the Ylissian-Plegian War begins. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job forgetting Maribelle, Vaike and Chrom]]!
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'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]], rescues him from Sigurd, and then attacks Sigurd on Chagall's orders a while later. He can be persuaded to stop by Raquesis... in which case he rides back to try talking Chagall out of attacking Sigurd again. [[spoiler:Chagall immediately orders him executed in this case.]]\\
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'''Instead''' He he insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]], rescues him from Sigurd, and then attacks Sigurd on Chagall's orders a while later. He can be persuaded to stop by Raquesis... in which case he rides back to try talking Chagall out of attacking Sigurd again. [[spoiler:Chagall immediately orders him executed in this case.]]\\
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'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it]], despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
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'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it]], despite that a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for from the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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** There's a loyal, honorable knight named Eldigan who is best friends with [[TheHero Sigurd]] and vassal of King Chagall. Chagall is meanwhile in league with the BigBad and murdered his father to ascend the throne. After dismissing his sister's concerns over this, Eldigan tries to talk Chagall into not attacking Sigurd and is throne into the dungeon for his trouble until Sigurd rescues him.\\
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** There's a loyal, honorable knight named Eldigan who is best friends with [[TheHero Sigurd]] and vassal of King Chagall. Chagall is meanwhile in league with the BigBad and murdered his father to ascend the throne. After dismissing his sister's concerns over this, Eldigan tries to talk Chagall into not attacking Sigurd and is throne thrown into the dungeon for his trouble until Sigurd rescues him.\\
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** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* From ''Path of Radiance'':
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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* From ''Path of Radiance'':
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* From ''Path of Radiance'':
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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**NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* From ''Path of Radiance'':
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.far.
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* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eldigan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Raquesis cites when she tries to talk Eldigan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eldigan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eldigan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
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** There's a loyal, honorable knight named Eldigan who
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'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eldiganto be their king. Eldigan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
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'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eldiganto Eldigan to be their king. Eldigan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
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* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
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* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan Eldigan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis Raquesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan Eldigan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect'''Eltoshan Eldigan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''You'd expect'''
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'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
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'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to Eldiganto be their king. Eltoshan Eldigan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
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'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.\\
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'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.\\
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** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.
pissed.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and backoff.
off.\\
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescuehim.
him.\\
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.\\
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.\\
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* From ''Path of Radiance'':
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
* From ''Path of Radiance'':
** When the mercenaries meet Lethe and Mordecai for the first time, Soren immediately insults them as ''sub-humans''. Mordecai is, of course, pissed.
'''You'd expect''': Seeing a man Mordecai's size getting angry, Soren would realize he'd gone too far and back off.
'''Instead''': He keeps taking potshots at him until Mordecai ''attacks him'', causing Ike to have to rush in and rescue him.
'''Furthermnore''': When Ike gets hurt, Soren tries to ''attack Mordecai with wind magic'' until Ike pulls him back, only apologizing when Ike scolds him for going too far.
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''
** King Fado gave his children Eirika and Ephraim bracelets that function as a twin key to the nation's Sacred Stone, a powerful artifact that is one part of a seal on the Demon King. He entrusts the knight Seth with the secret and orders him to escape with Eirika when Grado invades. While on the run, a thief nabs the bracelet and Seth insists that they go take it back.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That after reclaiming it, Seth would tell Eirika what it is so that she knows just how important it is to keep it safe.\\
'''Instead:''' He tells her that it is very important, but decides that this does not fall under the heading of "the right time" (what Fado had told him about when to reveal the secret) and refuses to say ''why'' it is very important. As such, she decides that even a very important royal bracelet isn't worth allowing hostages to be eaten by giant spiders and hands it over to the dark mage that demands it... and ''then'' Seth tells her, after it's in enemy hands. It's just a good thing that they had enough [[{{Badass}} badasses]] to take it back.
* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'':
** Early on, one of the first main antagonists, a Begnion soldier Jarod, is desperately trying to shut down the Dawn Brigade, as they are what could potentially lead Daein into overthrowing Begnion. After the first chapter introducing the Dawn Brigade, his soliders chase them through the streets and Micaiah showcases her healing powers to save a dying boy, which require her to sacrifice her own health.\\
'''You'd expect''': Micaiah expends her life energy here, or gets captured by the soldiers.\\
'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it, despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
** Also, early on in the story, Micaiah, the one Jarod is after, abandons her team to buy time for them, running into Jarod.\\
'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''
** King Fado gave his children Eirika and Ephraim bracelets that function as a twin key to the nation's Sacred Stone, a powerful artifact that is one part of a seal on the Demon King. He entrusts the knight Seth with the secret and orders him to escape with Eirika when Grado invades. While on the run, a thief nabs the bracelet and Seth insists that they go take it back.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That after reclaiming it, Seth would tell Eirika what it is so that she knows just how important it is to keep it safe.\\
'''Instead:''' He tells her that it is very important, but decides that this does not fall under the heading of "the right time" (what Fado had told him about when to reveal the secret) and refuses to say ''why'' it is very important. As such, she decides that even a very important royal bracelet isn't worth allowing hostages to be eaten by giant spiders and hands it over to the dark mage that demands it... and ''then'' Seth tells her, after it's in enemy hands. It's just a good thing that they had enough [[{{Badass}} badasses]] to take it back.
* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'':
** Early on, one of the first main antagonists, a Begnion soldier Jarod, is desperately trying to shut down the Dawn Brigade, as they are what could potentially lead Daein into overthrowing Begnion. After the first chapter introducing the Dawn Brigade, his soliders chase them through the streets and Micaiah showcases her healing powers to save a dying boy, which require her to sacrifice her own health.\\
'''You'd expect''': Micaiah expends her life energy here, or gets captured by the soldiers.\\
'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it, despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
** Also, early on in the story, Micaiah, the one Jarod is after, abandons her team to buy time for them, running into Jarod.\\
'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
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'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''
** King Fado gave his children Eirika and Ephraim bracelets that function as a twin key to the nation's Sacred Stone, a powerful artifact that is one part of a seal on the Demon King. He entrusts the knight Seth with the secret and orders him to escape with Eirika when Grado invades. While on the run, a thief nabs the bracelet and Seth insists that they go take it back.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That after reclaiming it, Seth would tell Eirika what it is so that she knows just how important it is to keep it safe.\\
'''Instead:''' He tells her that it is very important, but decides that this does not fall under the heading of "the right time" (what Fado had told him about when to reveal the secret) and refuses to say ''why'' it is very important. As such, she decides that even a very important royal bracelet isn't worth allowing hostages to be eaten by giant spiders and hands it over to the dark mage that demands it... and ''then'' Seth tells her, after it's in enemy hands. It's just a good thing that they had enough [[{{Badass}} badasses]] to take it back.
* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'':
** Early on, one of the first main antagonists, a Begnion soldier Jarod, is desperately trying to shut down the Dawn Brigade, as they are what could potentially lead Daein into overthrowing Begnion. After the first chapter introducing the Dawn Brigade, his soliders chase them through the streets and Micaiah showcases her healing powers to save a dying boy, which require her to sacrifice her own health.\\
'''You'd expect''': Micaiah expends her life energy here, or gets captured by the soldiers.\\
'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it, despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
** Also, early on in the story, Micaiah, the one Jarod is after, abandons her team to buy time for them, running into Jarod.\\
'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''
** King Fado gave his children Eirika and Ephraim bracelets that function as a twin key to the nation's Sacred Stone, a powerful artifact that is one part of a seal on the Demon King. He entrusts the knight Seth with the secret and orders him to escape with Eirika when Grado invades. While on the run, a thief nabs the bracelet and Seth insists that they go take it back.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That after reclaiming it, Seth would tell Eirika what it is so that she knows just how important it is to keep it safe.\\
'''Instead:''' He tells her that it is very important, but decides that this does not fall under the heading of "the right time" (what Fado had told him about when to reveal the secret) and refuses to say ''why'' it is very important. As such, she decides that even a very important royal bracelet isn't worth allowing hostages to be eaten by giant spiders and hands it over to the dark mage that demands it... and ''then'' Seth tells her, after it's in enemy hands. It's just a good thing that they had enough [[{{Badass}} badasses]] to take it back.
* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'':
** Early on, one of the first main antagonists, a Begnion soldier Jarod, is desperately trying to shut down the Dawn Brigade, as they are what could potentially lead Daein into overthrowing Begnion. After the first chapter introducing the Dawn Brigade, his soliders chase them through the streets and Micaiah showcases her healing powers to save a dying boy, which require her to sacrifice her own health.\\
'''You'd expect''': Micaiah expends her life energy here, or gets captured by the soldiers.\\
'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it, despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
** Also, early on in the story, Micaiah, the one Jarod is after, abandons her team to buy time for them, running into Jarod.\\
'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
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* In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', there's a loyal, honorable knight named Eltoshan who served under King Chagall. However, Chagall is a pathetic King, and somewhat of a tyrant to the boot--not to mention the (very true) rumors of patricide that Lachesis cites when she tries to talk Eltoshan out of going to see Chagall. Chagall immediately has him thrown in the dungeon, and he is only free when Sigurd's invading army storms the castle and confirms the rumors.\\
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''
** King Fado gave his children Eirika and Ephraim bracelets that function as a twin key to the nation's Sacred Stone, a powerful artifact that is one part of a seal on the Demon King. He entrusts the knight Seth with the secret and orders him to escape with Eirika when Grado invades. While on the run, a thief nabs the bracelet and Seth insists that they go take it back.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That after reclaiming it, Seth would tell Eirika what it is so that she knows just how important it is to keep it safe.\\
'''Instead:''' He tells her that it is very important, but decides that this does not fall under the heading of "the right time" (what Fado had told him about when to reveal the secret) and refuses to say ''why'' it is very important. As such, she decides that even a very important royal bracelet isn't worth allowing hostages to be eaten by giant spiders and hands it over to the dark mage that demands it... and ''then'' Seth tells her, after it's in enemy hands. It's just a good thing that they had enough [[{{Badass}} badasses]] to take it back.
* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'':
** Early on, one of the first main antagonists, a Begnion soldier Jarod, is desperately trying to shut down the Dawn Brigade, as they are what could potentially lead Daein into overthrowing Begnion. After the first chapter introducing the Dawn Brigade, his soliders chase them through the streets and Micaiah showcases her healing powers to save a dying boy, which require her to sacrifice her own health.\\
'''You'd expect''': Micaiah expends her life energy here, or gets captured by the soldiers.\\
'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it]], despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
** Also, early on in the story, Micaiah, the one Jarod is after, abandons her team to buy time for them, running into Jarod.\\
'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
'''You'd expect''' Eltoshan to renounce his knighthood and fight for the people rather than the tyrannic king, or join Sigurd.\\
'''Instead''' He insists that [[HonorBeforeReason his honor as a knight comes first]] and defends him like hell, the most he'd do is to try and persuade the thick-headed king. As a result, after getting too fed up, Chagall ordered his execution.\\
'''Even Worse''' in the Oosawa manga adaptation when the Agustrian knight Zyne tells him in no uncertain terms that Chagall will execute him and that Chagall is being brutal to the people, who would definitely ''prefer'' Eltoshan to be their king. Eltoshan refuses and ''continues'' to refuse after Sigurd tells him to honor Zyne's dying wish. Admittedly, he is [[FreudianExcuse ashamed of his incestuous feelings for his sister]] in the manga, but even running away to live as a hermit would be smarter than being loyal to Chagall.
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''
** King Fado gave his children Eirika and Ephraim bracelets that function as a twin key to the nation's Sacred Stone, a powerful artifact that is one part of a seal on the Demon King. He entrusts the knight Seth with the secret and orders him to escape with Eirika when Grado invades. While on the run, a thief nabs the bracelet and Seth insists that they go take it back.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That after reclaiming it, Seth would tell Eirika what it is so that she knows just how important it is to keep it safe.\\
'''Instead:''' He tells her that it is very important, but decides that this does not fall under the heading of "the right time" (what Fado had told him about when to reveal the secret) and refuses to say ''why'' it is very important. As such, she decides that even a very important royal bracelet isn't worth allowing hostages to be eaten by giant spiders and hands it over to the dark mage that demands it... and ''then'' Seth tells her, after it's in enemy hands. It's just a good thing that they had enough [[{{Badass}} badasses]] to take it back.
* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'':
** Early on, one of the first main antagonists, a Begnion soldier Jarod, is desperately trying to shut down the Dawn Brigade, as they are what could potentially lead Daein into overthrowing Begnion. After the first chapter introducing the Dawn Brigade, his soliders chase them through the streets and Micaiah showcases her healing powers to save a dying boy, which require her to sacrifice her own health.\\
'''You'd expect''': Micaiah expends her life energy here, or gets captured by the soldiers.\\
'''Instead''': They escape unharmed, and [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy the soldiers stand around and do nothing about it]], despite a moment ago they were willing to kill an innocent child just to get at her.
** Also, early on in the story, Micaiah, the one Jarod is after, abandons her team to buy time for them, running into Jarod.\\
'''You'd expect''': Jarod to cut her down where she stands, as he'd been planning to do the entire time.\\
'''Instead''': He sends her to jail, where she meets up with the traders for the previous game, and ''Kurth''. NiceJobFixingItVillain.
