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* ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'': Hoo boy.
** Jean Loring, the old love interest of Ray Palmer, the Atom, decides she wants to get back together with him.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Just ask him. He's clearly still carrying a torch for her, and she was the one who broke up their relationship to begin with. He's a decent guy; he's not going to hold a grudge over it.\\
'''Instead:''' She decides to orchestrate a half-successful assassination attempt against Sue Dibney, the Elongated Man's wife, using Ray's technology, because this will make people think friends and family of heroes are being targeted and maybe make Ray worried about her enough for him to rekindle their relationship. The attempt accidentally turns into a successful attempt, and Sue is killed.\\
'''So then:''' Apparently, Jean realized beforehand that this might kill Sue, so she decided to bring along something to destroy the evidence.\\
'''You'd expect:''' The evidence apparently consists of extremely small indents on the brain (there should be more, but [[ArtisticLicenseMedicine none of the coroners noticed it]]). Bring along a shotgun, or a sledgehammer, or anything else capable of smashing the brain, and not only would that destroy the evidence, but it would be tricky to trace.\\
'''Instead:''' Jean brings along a ''flamethrower''. Not only does this not actually destroy the evidence, but a flamethrower is a hell of a lot more traceable than a sledgehammer.
** The Justice League are on the scene and looking over the body. They notice it's been burned, first and foremost.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Them to look up fire-based villains. Even assuming they're somehow too dumb to notice the smell of propellant, a burned corpse doesn't leave many alternate options.\\
'''Instead:''' They go looking for Doctor Light, because of a RetCon that he apparently raped Sue and he might want revenge for that or something. Not only is this completely gratuitous for a RedHerring, and not only does this not make sense, since it's a plot point that Light was mindwiped of the knowledge of him doing so, but Doctor Light's lasers shouldn't look anything like the kind of burns Sue had.
** Doctor Light has realized that the League is hunting him for reasons he shouldn't remember, and so he hires Deathstroke to protect himself. The League engages Deathstroke.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Green Lantern to just shove him in a force bubble in the first five seconds, taking him out of the fight. Or Zatanna to say a few words backwards and instantly tie him up or turn him into a squirrel. Or... well, anything other than what they do.\\
'''Instead:''' They all lose their brains, [[ForgotAboutHisPowers forget how their powers work,]] and charge into melee range with a heavily armed master of martial arts with the strength of ten men. Deathstroke manages to knock out about half of them before being subdued by Green Arrow, who remembers he has a bow and can shoot Deathstroke.
** Loring has gotten back together with Ray Palmer, in the aftermath of all of the above and her own faked murder attempt.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Just call it there. It's already led to multiple deaths, a manhunt, and some horrible stuff happening; quit while you're ahead. Or, if you do want to try another death, hire someone subtle, since neither of the other attempts had an obvious killer, so why would this one?\\
'''Instead:''' She hires Captain Boomerang, who is about as subtle as a flash grenade, to kill Jack Drake - and instead of just telling Boomerang to rough up Drake and let him go, she sends Drake an anonymous tip and a gun to protect himself. This ends in them both killing each other, and eventually to Loring accidentally revealing evidence that she couldn't have known about.



* A two-part ''ComicBook/DarkwingDuck'' comic story in ''Magazine/DisneyAdventures'': Gizmoduck is about to go pay a visit to fellow Super Power Union member Mr. Wonderful, but just as he's opening the door, he discovers that Mr. Wonderful is in fact working for F.O.W.L. when he sees him speaking with [[BigBad Steelbeak]] via videophone.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Gizmoduck to get out of there without being noticed and go alert Darkwing to tell him he was right.\\
'''Instead:''' Gizmoduck rushes into the room, preparing to pulverize Mr. Wonderful, who responds to his threat by calling the other members of the Union to come take care of Gizmoduck.
* ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' is another tale that starts out with a screwup. Two months after [[{{Gendercide}} everything on the planet with a Y chromosome drops dead out of the blue]], the son of one of the surviving congress critters shows up at the White House.\\
'''You'd expect:''' The U.S. government would promptly haul Mr. Brown to the most secure place they can reach and gather whatever security/military/police people to track down the following in this order of priority: A) a competent and functioning shrink; B) whatever salvageable sperm-bank equipment that can be found, along with a reliable power source; C) any medical/biotech experts that are remotely qualified to figure out why this boy is still alive and how to duplicate it/him; and D) the guy's girlfriend, last seen in the Australian Outback.\\
'''Instead:''' They send the guy, escorted by '''''one''''' [[ActionGirl secret agent sort]], to a cloning expert that was last seen in Boston before everything went to heck. Supposedly they were convinced by his arguments concerning being too easy to locate if he were in one spot, even the mother who was probably aware he was pretty hung up on this Beth person.



'''What's Worse:''' The deal involves sacrificing Peter and MJ's unborn child. Aunt May would never have sacrificed a ''baby'' to save herself.
* ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}''
** The Bone brothers have been separated due to entering a strange valley. Fone Bone and Phoney Bone reunite in the dead of winter, and have sought shelter with the locals. Phoney Bone doesn't like how their hosts, Grandma Ben and her granddaughter Thorn, are all about rules and doing things their way. Fone Bone disagrees, not just because of his crush on Thorn, but also that they can't be picky about where they're staying in the winter, with rat creatures waiting for a chance to eat them.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Phoney Bone to realize his brother has a point, pragmatically speaking. They need to stay together, since they don't even know where their brother Smiley is.\\
'''Instead''': Phoney Bone walks away after the latest argument. He doesn't even leave a note.\\
'''The Result''': Fone Bone doesn't find his brother until spring, and strangles him for the AngerBornOfWorry.
** Phoney Bone reunites with Smiey Bone, who is a bartender at a tavern where Phoney's paper currency is worthless, and you have to trade tangible goods. The owner, Lucius, rips up the money when Phoney uses it to pay for his drink.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Smiley would have warned his brother, or covered his tab.\\
'''Instead''': Smiley doesn't.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney has to wash dishes to WorkOffTheDebt, and he's angry that Smiley didn't tell him that dollars were useless.
** In the Dragon Slayer volume, Phoney Bone, sets up a scam to exploit the townspeople's paranoia of dragons by claiming to be a Dragon Slayer as the title implies.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the after cow race incident, where Phoney nearly tricked everyone into giving up their fortunes if not for Lucius intervening, the townsfolk would actually start thinking and realize that Phoney is full of crap.\\
'''Instead:''' They take him up on his "offer" and pay him riches. Not one of them, save for [[OnlySaneMan Lucius]], bothers to question him despite the fact that he doesn't bother even looking for a dragon. Not to mention that just the way he introduced his dragon slaying business should have been enough to alert at least one person. Perhaps it was because everyone in the room was drunk.\\
'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITERALLY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]\\
'''The Result:''' Phoney leads the town people off to hunt the completely non-malevolent dragon, (not actually even planning to slay the dragon, only to slip away and return to Boneville.) and the quite malevolent Rat Creatures attack the unguarded village. To be fair, Phoney DID unintentionally save half of the village because he led said half away from the village to hunt the dragon, so it's not as bad as it could've been.
** After this, the town is angry with Phoney Bone for his deception. They want to lynch him. Thorn steps in and saves Phoney Bone, pointing out that it was the villagers' fault partly since they believed him. As she points out, regardless of how they feel, now is not the time to blame Phoney because they need to regroup and make plans to survive with their home destroyed.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The villagers to realize Thorn has a point, especially when they find out [[spoiler:she's a lost princess and technically has the authority to overrule their angry mob]].\\
'''Instead''': They don't listen. Phoney then learns he's the target for the Rat Creatures because of his star shirt.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney runs away, both because he's scared for his life and because he truly regrets endangering his brothers, and he gets captured, while Thorn is nearly killed trying to protect him. [[spoiler:Fortunately, he wasn't the "partner" Briar needed to reawaken the locusts]].
* One ''Franchise/{{Superman}}[=/=]Franchise/{{Batman}}'' team-up featured Doctor Light trying to take down Superman with a magic wand, explaining that apparently ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}'s magic has... something to do with light, nobody's really sure what.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He'd place the wand in his hand, point it at Superman, and kill him with it, since Superman isn't strong against magic. Having done this, he'd nuke Batman, thereby removing two of the most dangerous Franchise/{{Justice League|OfAmerica}} members.\\
'''Instead:''' He somehow gives Superman a secondary personality who believes that Superman is trying to kill him. This second personality duly hires a group of backstreet assassins to take out Superman with the Satanstaff, which [[PlotHole has somehow found itself at the North Pole]]. When it looks like it's going to work, Light comments that he used this kind of tactic because he personally is incredibly inept and if he tried the "sensible" way of doing it, he'd lose. For additional idiocy, he expected the crooks' Split-Personality hired to hand over the Satanstaff to him, despite having used it to take down both Superman and Batman.
* Mongul has just defeated Arkillo in a fistfight and now has a good portion of the [[Characters/GLSinestroCorps Sinestro Corps]] under his command.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He would take those members under his control, plus the Manhunters present, and stage a coup via numbers.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes at Sinestro solo and tries to kill him. Sinestro states that he has always been prepared for potential coups and has devised failsafes, namely emergency ring control overrides, and takes control of Mongul's ring. After impaling him from virtually every angle, Sinestro imprisons him within the central power battery.
** Stupidity runs in the family. In ''ComicBook/UnderworldUnleashed'', the demon Neron has gathered villains from all over and offering them their heart's desire in exchange for their souls. One of them is Mongul Sr., who had his ass handed to him by pre-FaceHeelTurn Franchise/GreenLantern Hal Jordan and [[RookieRedRanger Rookie Green Lantern]] Kyle Rayner.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Mongul to take the offer and use it to get back at Kyle and attempt at his dream of rebuilding Warworld. Or, if he doesn't want to sell his soul, just reject the offer and leave it at that. Neron allowed several super villains who refused to deal with him to go without harming them.\\
'''Instead:''' He proudly boasts that he'd do no such thing and ''attacks Neron''. Neron promptly kills him for his stupidity.
* During ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', a superhero named Risk was one of the many fighting Superboy-Prime. In the process, he got his right arm torn off.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Risk to stay far, far away from the guy.\\
'''Instead:''' The next time Prime is on Earth, he jumps out at him again with the apparent intent of punching. He promptly has his ''other'' arm torn off. It was admittedly pretty ballsy, but stupid nonetheless.
* ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', Chapter 5 "The Laird of Castle [=McDuck=]:" Scrooge is called home to help his family protect their ancestral castle from their rivals, the Whiskervilles. He arrives just as his FieryRedhead sister Hortense is singlehandedly sending the would-be intruders running for their lives.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' ...well, ''anything'' except unfolds here.\\
'''Which is:''' Scrooge's father instructing his uncle to take "the women" -- including Hortense! -- home while he and Scrooge handle things. The Whiskervilles even make sure upon their return (when they nearly kill Scrooge) that the coast is clear because she's gone! [[StayInTheKitchen Stupid stupid chivalry]]!
* In a later appearance by Superboy-Prime, he's fighting the Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} in the distant future, only to find that the Legion's greatest enemy, Time Trapper, is himself, aged centuries and now sporting a cool beard. Upon meeting, the Time Trapper insists that they need to team up to win the fight against the heroes.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Superboy-Prime to listen and obey, knowing that he had to work alongside his future self and he'd be a good source of advice and knowledge with his enhanced powers and time-altering abilities.\\
'''Instead:''' Superboy-Prime angrily insists that Time Trapper isn't him and that he "looks stupid." Filled with rage, Prime [[NeverTheSelvesShallMeet punches his future self which tears a hole in time-space and sends him flying back to Earth-Prime, powerless and trapped.]] Brainiac 5 even [[LampshadeHanging quips "What an idiot" after seeing it happen.]]\\
'''Also:''' Superboy-Prime's older self should probably have remembered that his younger self was unstable, easily antagonized, and prone to destructive rages. So, barging in there and barking orders makes the older Prime just as much of an idiot.\\
'''At Least:''' Superboy-Prime's consistent.
* In the "Absolute Power" arc of ComicBook/SupermanBatman, time-travelling villains [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight manage to replace the origins of Batman and Superman with new ones that turn them into tyrants]]. Eventually their memories are restored and they set out to correct the timeline. However, this involves traveling to the point where Batman's parents were murdered, and letting it happen.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Superman to do this in secret, as quick as possible without Batman's knowledge.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes with Batman, and fully expects him to just stand there and watch as the worst trauma of his life replays in front of him. Naturally, Batman snaps, kills Joe Chill, and saves his parents. This erases Batman from existence entirely and screws up the timeline even worse. [[SarcasmMode Good judgment call there, Clark.]]

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'''What's Worse:''' The deal involves sacrificing Peter and MJ's unborn child. Aunt May would never ''never'' have sacrificed a ''baby'' '''baby''' to save herself.
* ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}''
** The Bone brothers have been separated due to entering a strange valley. Fone Bone and Phoney Bone reunite in the dead of winter, and have sought shelter with the locals. Phoney Bone doesn't like how their hosts, Grandma Ben and her granddaughter Thorn, are all about rules and doing things their way. Fone Bone disagrees, not just because of his crush on Thorn, but also that they can't be picky about where they're staying in the winter, with rat creatures waiting for a chance to eat them.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Phoney Bone to realize his brother has a point, pragmatically speaking. They need to stay together, since they don't even know where their brother Smiley is.\\
'''Instead''': Phoney Bone walks away after the latest argument. He doesn't even leave a note.\\
'''The Result''': Fone Bone doesn't find his brother until spring, and strangles him for the AngerBornOfWorry.
** Phoney Bone reunites with Smiey Bone, who is a bartender at a tavern where Phoney's paper currency is worthless, and you have to trade tangible goods. The owner, Lucius, rips up the money when Phoney uses it to pay for his drink.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Smiley would have warned his brother, or covered his tab.\\
'''Instead''': Smiley doesn't.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney has to wash dishes to WorkOffTheDebt, and he's angry that Smiley didn't tell him that dollars were useless.
** In the Dragon Slayer volume, Phoney Bone, sets up a scam to exploit the townspeople's paranoia of dragons by claiming to be a Dragon Slayer as the title implies.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the after cow race incident, where Phoney nearly tricked everyone into giving up their fortunes if not for Lucius intervening, the townsfolk would actually start thinking and realize that Phoney is full of crap.\\
'''Instead:''' They take him up on his "offer" and pay him riches. Not one of them, save for [[OnlySaneMan Lucius]], bothers to question him despite the fact that he doesn't bother even looking for a dragon. Not to mention that just the way he introduced his dragon slaying business should have been enough to alert at least one person. Perhaps it was because everyone in the room was drunk.\\
'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITERALLY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]\\
'''The Result:''' Phoney leads the town people off to hunt the completely non-malevolent dragon, (not actually even planning to slay the dragon, only to slip away and return to Boneville.) and the quite malevolent Rat Creatures attack the unguarded village. To be fair, Phoney DID unintentionally save half of the village because he led said half away from the village to hunt the dragon, so it's not as bad as it could've been.
** After this, the town is angry with Phoney Bone for his deception. They want to lynch him. Thorn steps in and saves Phoney Bone, pointing out that it was the villagers' fault partly since they believed him. As she points out, regardless of how they feel, now is not the time to blame Phoney because they need to regroup and make plans to survive with their home destroyed.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The villagers to realize Thorn has a point, especially when they find out [[spoiler:she's a lost princess and technically has the authority to overrule their angry mob]].\\
'''Instead''': They don't listen. Phoney then learns he's the target for the Rat Creatures because of his star shirt.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney runs away, both because he's scared for his life and because he truly regrets endangering his brothers, and he gets captured, while Thorn is nearly killed trying to protect him. [[spoiler:Fortunately, he wasn't the "partner" Briar needed to reawaken the locusts]].
* One ''Franchise/{{Superman}}[=/=]Franchise/{{Batman}}'' team-up featured Doctor Light trying to take down Superman with a magic wand, explaining that apparently ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}'s magic has... something to do with light, nobody's really sure what.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He'd place the wand in his hand, point it at Superman, and kill him with it, since Superman isn't strong against magic. Having done this, he'd nuke Batman, thereby removing two of the most dangerous Franchise/{{Justice League|OfAmerica}} members.\\
'''Instead:''' He somehow gives Superman a secondary personality who believes that Superman is trying to kill him. This second personality duly hires a group of backstreet assassins to take out Superman with the Satanstaff, which [[PlotHole has somehow found itself at the North Pole]]. When it looks like it's going to work, Light comments that he used this kind of tactic because he personally is incredibly inept and if he tried the "sensible" way of doing it, he'd lose. For additional idiocy, he expected the crooks' Split-Personality hired to hand over the Satanstaff to him, despite having used it to take down both Superman and Batman.
* Mongul has just defeated Arkillo in a fistfight and now has a good portion of the [[Characters/GLSinestroCorps Sinestro Corps]] under his command.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He would take those members under his control, plus the Manhunters present, and stage a coup via numbers.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes at Sinestro solo and tries to kill him. Sinestro states that he has always been prepared for potential coups and has devised failsafes, namely emergency ring control overrides, and takes control of Mongul's ring. After impaling him from virtually every angle, Sinestro imprisons him within the central power battery.
** Stupidity runs in the family. In ''ComicBook/UnderworldUnleashed'', the demon Neron has gathered villains from all over and offering them their heart's desire in exchange for their souls. One of them is Mongul Sr., who had his ass handed to him by pre-FaceHeelTurn Franchise/GreenLantern Hal Jordan and [[RookieRedRanger Rookie Green Lantern]] Kyle Rayner.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Mongul to take the offer and use it to get back at Kyle and attempt at his dream of rebuilding Warworld. Or, if he doesn't want to sell his soul, just reject the offer and leave it at that. Neron allowed several super villains who refused to deal with him to go without harming them.\\
'''Instead:''' He proudly boasts that he'd do no such thing and ''attacks Neron''. Neron promptly kills him for his stupidity.
* During ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', a superhero named Risk was one of the many fighting Superboy-Prime. In the process, he got his right arm torn off.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Risk to stay far, far away from the guy.\\
'''Instead:''' The next time Prime is on Earth, he jumps out at him again with the apparent intent of punching. He promptly has his ''other'' arm torn off. It was admittedly pretty ballsy, but stupid nonetheless.
* ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', Chapter 5 "The Laird of Castle [=McDuck=]:" Scrooge is called home to help his family protect their ancestral castle from their rivals, the Whiskervilles. He arrives just as his FieryRedhead sister Hortense is singlehandedly sending the would-be intruders running for their lives.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' ...well, ''anything'' except unfolds here.\\
'''Which is:''' Scrooge's father instructing his uncle to take "the women" -- including Hortense! -- home while he and Scrooge handle things. The Whiskervilles even make sure upon their return (when they nearly kill Scrooge) that the coast is clear because she's gone! [[StayInTheKitchen Stupid stupid chivalry]]!
* In a later appearance by Superboy-Prime, he's fighting the Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} in the distant future, only to find that the Legion's greatest enemy, Time Trapper, is himself, aged centuries and now sporting a cool beard. Upon meeting, the Time Trapper insists that they need to team up to win the fight against the heroes.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Superboy-Prime to listen and obey, knowing that he had to work alongside his future self and he'd be a good source of advice and knowledge with his enhanced powers and time-altering abilities.\\
'''Instead:''' Superboy-Prime angrily insists that Time Trapper isn't him and that he "looks stupid." Filled with rage, Prime [[NeverTheSelvesShallMeet punches his future self which tears a hole in time-space and sends him flying back to Earth-Prime, powerless and trapped.]] Brainiac 5 even [[LampshadeHanging quips "What an idiot" after seeing it happen.]]\\
'''Also:''' Superboy-Prime's older self should probably have remembered that his younger self was unstable, easily antagonized, and prone to destructive rages. So, barging in there and barking orders makes the older Prime just as much of an idiot.\\
'''At Least:''' Superboy-Prime's consistent.
* In the "Absolute Power" arc of ComicBook/SupermanBatman, time-travelling villains [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight manage to replace the origins of Batman and Superman with new ones that turn them into tyrants]]. Eventually their memories are restored and they set out to correct the timeline. However, this involves traveling to the point where Batman's parents were murdered, and letting it happen.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Superman to do this in secret, as quick as possible without Batman's knowledge.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes with Batman, and fully expects him to just stand there and watch as the worst trauma of his life replays in front of him. Naturally, Batman snaps, kills Joe Chill, and saves his parents. This erases Batman from existence entirely and screws up the timeline even worse. [[SarcasmMode Good judgment call there, Clark.]]
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* ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica:
** During his time in the JSA, [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] dates Stargirl. Captain Marvel looks like he's in his late twenties, but he's [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually a sixteen-year-old]] named Billy Batson; "Captain Marvel" is just a magically induced OlderAlterEgo. Stargirl, who is also sixteen, obviously knows about Cap's secret identity, but the rest of the JSA doesn't. Jay Garrick eventually confronts Cap about it.\\
'''You'd expects:''' Captain Marvel to say his magic word and reveal his true identity to Jay. Because they're teammates, you know? No harm, no foul. Plus, this is the Justice Society, they're some of the most trustworthy people in the DCU, and serve as [[MoralityPet Morality Pets]] to two generations of heroes.\\
'''Instead:''' Captain Marvel says something vague about appearances being deceiving, then flies away when Jay begs for Cap's confidence. Cap then quits the JSA and breaks up with Stargirl (much to the consternation of the shippers).\\
'''What's worse:''' You just ''know'' that the JSA probably now thinks that Captain Marvel is a perv. So much for the Wisdom of Solomon, eh?
** ''JSA: Axis of Evil'': Kid Karnevil keeps bragging about how he's going to break out in mere minutes. The only thing keeping him locked up is a jail cell powered by Alan Scott's green magic, which only works as long as Alan is alive. Alan finds a strange wooden crate in a hallway of the temporary JSA headquarters.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Alan to heed Karnevil's warnings, since the kid has already proven to be a resourceful and methodical sociopath with friends on the outside. Alan should find Mr. Terrific or someone else who could analyze the crate (just to be safe), since Alan's green magic doesn't work on wood. Alan could later be of enormous help when/if Karnevil's associates attack the JSA.\\
'''Instead:''' Alan assumes Karnevil is delusional and ignores his warnings. A bomb inside the crate senses Alan's power ring. Alan gets blown up when he steps too close. He succumbs to his injuries, and surprise! Karnevil escapes.
*** Later, Shadow of War starts up the Darkness Engine, powered by Obsidian (who is trapped in egg form). The machine de-powers all meta-humans within its broadcasting radius, but doesn't affect technology. Shadow of War threatens to amp up the power to lethal levels if Mr. Terrific doesn't call off his T-spheres.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Mr. Terrific to break his lethal force rule (due to extraordinary circumstances) and accelerate one of his T-spheres into Shadow--or at the very least, the engine's computer--at 14 miles per second, before she can react. He had bragged about doing so in the previous story, when he battled one of Mordru's illusions. Either way, it would solve the problem, and they might even have a chance to hatch Obsidian from the egg.\\
'''Instead:''' Mr. Terrific does nothing. The JSA surrenders. The Darkness Engine de-powers ALL the supers on Earth. The Fourth Reich [[BadFuture takes over the planet]]. [[KillEmAll Nearly everyone dies.]]
*** The Green Lantern Corps sees what happens to Earth. They notice that Hal Jordan died after his ring was de-powered and he fell out of flight. Naturally, the Corps quickly puts a Quul-level quarantine on the planet. Secretly, they plan an invasion to stop ThoseWackyNazis and the Darkness Engine on a day when the subtraction field is dialed back and doesn't cover the whole planet.\\
'''You'd expect:''' The Corps to quietly sneak some GL's (and other resistance) onto unaffected portions of the planet, and start working to destabilize the regime from within. At the very least, they could easily sneak some tech or something onto the planet to help stop the Engine. And further, they should NOT use their rings to fly, just in case the Nazis detect them, because of what happened to Hal Jordan.\\
'''Instead:''' The ''entire Green Lantern Corps'' {{Zerg Rush}}es the planet from space. The Fourth Reich naturally detects this and amps up the Darkness Engine. All the GL's are depowered and drop out of the sky like rocks, and all die upon impact.
* ''JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice''. Captain Marvel is turned back into Billy Batson, freeing him from possession. This happens in front of a lot of people, who are all very experienced superheroes.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Everyone to put two and two together.\\
'''Instead:''' Green Arrow says "Who are you? And where's Captain Marvel?" Really, Ollie? Just... really?\\
'''What's Worse:''' In ''Superman/Batman: Public Enemies'', when Marvel is changed back in mid-fight, Batman's thought box says "He's just a kid. No older than Robin." I wish I could tell you I was kidding, but no. The goddamn Batman couldn't even figure it out.
* ''ComicBook/SecretSix''. Yasemin, the woman who filled Deadshot's marksman position on the ComicBook/SuicideSquad, is pissed about being told that Deadshot did her job better than her and decides to engage him in a gunfight to prove that she's the better marksman.\\
'''You'd expect''' her to be familiar enough with Deadshot's "don't fuck around" approach to combat and lack of patience for trivial matters and plug him the minute she gets the chance.\\
'''Instead:''' Yasemin decides to challenge him to a duel; before she can even finish laying out the terms for the duel, Deadshot shoots her dead and coldly reminds her that she should have taken the first shot she had.
** Not long after, Dwarfstar has Deathstroke ice Ryan Choi. Of course, he didn't realize that Giganta was his girlfriend; when she finds out, he's savagely beaten and tortured by her and ends up just barely clinging to life in a Louisiana hospital. Then Ray Palmer shows up.\\
'''You'd expect''' that Dwarfstar would have been humbled enough by the experience to keep his mouth shut and not say anything. Not just because his teammate beat him to within an inch of his life, but also because Deathstroke doesn't take kindly to people who blab about hiring him.\\
'''Instead:''' Dwarfstar not only flaps his lips about ordering the hit on Choi, but he's also stupid enough to tell Palmer that he hired Deathstroke to carry it out. Palmer even lampshades this by telling him that when Wilson finds out, he's going to be ''pissed''.
* In ''ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' the U. S. government has noted that Superman is growing somewhat unstable, developing KnightTemplar tendencies, and most importantly interfering in political matters after the trauma of being manipulated into killing his wife and getting Metropolis blown up. He has also revealed his secret ID.\\
'''You'd expect:''' ''IF'' they involve Jonathan and Martha Kent in any way at all, the Feds would visit them and politely ask (not insist, let alone threaten, '''ask''') if they could help talk their boy into toning it down a bit.\\
'''Instead:''' They send commandos and supervillains (in particular the Mirror Master) to the Kent farm to kidnap them, and leave a message [[IHaveYourWife threatening to send pieces of them to Superman if he does not behave]]. Knowing full well that Superman and ThouShaltNotKill are no longer one and the same.
** Later, Batman merges with Etrigan, defeats Superman, and puts him to sleep by using some kind of dust (likely magical).\\
'''You'd expect:''' Batman captures Superman and makes a proper prison for him, also possibly taking away his powers.\\
'''Instead:''' ''Batman just goes away.'' And judging that it was a backstory, Superman gets out of the sleep, continuing his reign.



* ''Comicbook/KickAss'':
** Dave Lizewski wants to become a real-life superhero. After a few weeks spent walking on walls and wearing his costume under his clothes, he decides he wants to start fighting crime for real. His first attempt to do so ends [[RealityEnsues as well as you might expect]] with him getting beaten up by a trio of vandals, stabbed, and finally getting hit by a car. Ultimately he manages to survive and recover from all of this, and although he tries to give up the superhero lifestyle, he soon gets drawn back into it.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That if Dave was insistent about being a superhero, he'd try and take some martial arts/self-defense classes, or do something to give himself more chance in a fight, as soon as reasonably possible.\\
'''Instead:''' He does absolutely nothing of the sort until the next series.
** The Motherfucker wants revenge on Dave because of the latter's role in [[spoiler: the death of his father]]. He decides to go after the people Dave cares about.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Motherfucker to try and limit his victims to those connected to Dave, and not cause unnecessary bloodshed.\\
'''Instead:''' While going to attack Dave's crush, he and his supervillain friends massacre an entire suburb, respectively killing and injuring about 30 and 100 innocent people, including children. This results in the Motherfucker's friend [[CorruptCop Vic Gigante]] withdrawing police protection from The Motherfucker. And then, he decides to start another massacre in Times Square, seemingly for no other reason than it [[RuleOfCool sounding cool]]. Ultimately, this course of action leads to his downfall, and his actions turn him, and his secret identity, into figures of public hate.
** Pointed out by Kick-Ass in Volume 2, [[spoiler:after he & Hit-Girl find out that the Mother Fucker's plan is to burn New York to the ground - Chris is asthmatic, so ''what's he going to do when he blows up all of the pharmacys & hospitals, and he needs his medication?'']]
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' has sometimes had encounters with [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorphs]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Superman would realize that xenomorphs sit somewhere between a highly destructive invasive species and an intergalactic plague of incurably lethal proportions and would use his NighInvulnerability, SuperStrength and EyeBeams to destroy them wherever he finds them \\
'''Instead:''' He averts WhatMeasureIsANonHuman and tries to let them live, fighting non-lethally if he can and even attempting to prevent others from killing them. Admittedly, the first time he meets a xenomorph is canonically soon after his traumatic execution of three criminal Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone, but he never stops trying to find a way to "live and let live" with xenomorphs.
* ComicBook/TheTransformersMegaseries During a spotlight tie-in Ramjet attempts a coup on Megatron, and spends his time building resources and making plans to overthrow him. Being both a threat to his authority and ultra-secret infiltration plans (which make the Decepticons almost invisible to the humans), Megatron kills him and ends the rebellion easily.
** '''You'd Expect:''' Megatron to just recycle or destroy the body, take it back to base like what he did when he crushed Starscream's insurrection.
** '''Instead:''' He dismembers Ramjet and dumps his remains in the different areas of earth that Ramjet was manipulating. Giant robot parts are now in very public places exposing the Decepticon activity to the public. Years later the government reverse engineered Ramjet and mass produced drones based on his design.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'':
** At one point, Rorschach gets framed for murder, and ends up trapped in a building surrounded by the NYPD. Before storming in, the cops demand that he send out any hostages he's taken.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Rorschach to discard his mask, trenchcoat and hat, either hide them or burn them, and leave the building while posing as a released hostage. You wouldn't think he'd have a problem with dropping his disguise, given that he's been [[spoiler:masquerading as a doomsday sign carrier]] throughout the story.\\
'''Instead:''' He tries and fails to fight his way out, gets himself arrested, and is shut up with several criminals he's put in jail, all of whom want to kill him.
** The [[ShowWithinAShow in-universe comic book]] ''Tales of the Black Freighter'' features the captain of a destroyed ship making a raft out of tree trunks and the corpses of his crew so that he can travel back to his hometown of Davidstown and warn them of an imminent attack by the titular pirate vessel.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That on his return to Davidstown, the captain would check whether or not the place actually had been sacked or taken over by the Black Freighter before doing anything drastic. After all, the pirates might have been delayed by weather issues, battles with other ships, or even changed their minds about attacking Davidstown during the captain's journey.\\
'''Instead:''' The captain automatically assumes that the town has been taken by the pirates, despite seeing no evidence of this. This leads to him murdering a moneylender and his girlfriend after mistaking them for collaborators, mistaking a scarecrow for a pirate guard, and beating his wife to death in front of his kids after sneaking into his old home to kill the pirates he thought were sleeping there. Granted, he's become unhinged from his recent travels, but still.\\
'''Result:''' The captain gets chased out of Davidstown by a lynch mob, and has little choice other than joining the Black Freighter's crew.
* In the first storyline of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'', ComicBook/LexLuthor announces there is a massive planetoid made of Kryptonite headed towards Earth, and in typical Luthor fashion, he blames Superman.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The heroes of Earth double-check this, maybe ask Superman, who by this point has spent several years as a selfless hero and member of the Justice League, if any of this is even remotely true, maybe get Wonder Woman to use her Lasso of Truth on him to make sure.\\
'''Instead:''' They instantly believe Luthor, and try to hunt Superman down.

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* ''Comicbook/KickAss'':
** Dave Lizewski wants
Speaking of ComicBook/ThePunisher, in ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk #395, he comes to become Vegas looking to take down a real-life superhero. After a few weeks spent walking on walls hitman named Frost, and wearing his costume under his clothes, he decides he wants happens to start fighting crime for real. His first attempt to do so ends [[RealityEnsues as well as you might expect]] see Frost talking with him getting beaten up by a trio of vandals, stabbed, and finally getting hit by a car. Ultimately he manages to survive and recover from all of this, and although he tries to give up the superhero lifestyle, he soon gets drawn back into it."Mr. Fixit".\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That if Dave was insistent about being a superhero, he'd try Frank would realize that the 7ft plus green "Mr. Fixit" is The Hulk and take some martial arts/self-defense classes, or do something to give himself more chance in a fight, as soon as reasonably possible.would avoid getting involved.\\
'''Instead:''' He does absolutely stalks the Hulk, and then starts blazing away at him with a machine gun when the Hulk confronts him, achieving nothing more than shredding the Hulk's clothes. The Hulk promptly knocks him out cold with a tap of the sort until the next series.
** The Motherfucker wants revenge on Dave because of the latter's role in [[spoiler: the death of his father]]. He decides to go after the people Dave cares about.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Motherfucker to try and limit his victims to those connected to Dave, and not cause unnecessary bloodshed.\\
'''Instead:''' While going to attack Dave's crush, he and his supervillain friends massacre an entire suburb, respectively killing and injuring about 30 and 100 innocent people, including children. This results in the Motherfucker's friend [[CorruptCop Vic Gigante]] withdrawing police protection from The Motherfucker. And then, he decides to start another massacre in Times Square, seemingly for no other reason than it [[RuleOfCool sounding cool]]. Ultimately, this course of action leads to his downfall, and his actions turn him, and his secret identity, into figures of public hate.
** Pointed out by Kick-Ass in Volume 2, [[spoiler:after he & Hit-Girl find out that the Mother Fucker's plan is to burn New York to the ground - Chris is asthmatic, so ''what's he going to do when he blows up all of the pharmacys & hospitals, and he needs his medication?'']]
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' has sometimes had encounters with [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorphs]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Superman would realize that xenomorphs sit somewhere between a highly destructive invasive species and an intergalactic plague of incurably lethal proportions and would use his NighInvulnerability, SuperStrength and EyeBeams to destroy them wherever he finds them \\
'''Instead:''' He averts WhatMeasureIsANonHuman and tries to let them live, fighting non-lethally if he can and even attempting to prevent others from killing them. Admittedly, the first time he meets a xenomorph is canonically soon after his traumatic execution of three criminal Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone, but he never stops trying to find a way to "live and let live" with xenomorphs.
* ComicBook/TheTransformersMegaseries During a spotlight tie-in Ramjet attempts a coup on Megatron, and spends his time building resources and making plans to overthrow him. Being both a threat to his authority and ultra-secret infiltration plans (which make the Decepticons almost invisible to the humans), Megatron kills him and ends the rebellion easily.
** '''You'd Expect:''' Megatron to just recycle or destroy the body, take it back to base like what he did when he crushed Starscream's insurrection.
** '''Instead:''' He dismembers Ramjet and dumps his remains in the different areas of earth that Ramjet was manipulating. Giant robot parts are now in very public places exposing the Decepticon activity to the public. Years later the government reverse engineered Ramjet and mass produced drones based on his design.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'':
** At one point, Rorschach gets framed for murder, and ends up trapped in a building surrounded by the NYPD. Before storming in, the cops demand that he send out any hostages he's taken.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Rorschach to discard his mask, trenchcoat and hat, either hide them or burn them, and leave the building while posing as a released hostage. You wouldn't think he'd have a problem with dropping his disguise, given that he's been [[spoiler:masquerading as a doomsday sign carrier]] throughout the story.\\
'''Instead:''' He tries and fails to fight his way out, gets himself arrested, and is shut up with several criminals he's put in jail, all of whom want to kill him.
** The [[ShowWithinAShow in-universe comic book]] ''Tales of the Black Freighter'' features the captain of a destroyed ship making a raft out of tree trunks and the corpses of his crew so that he can travel back to his hometown of Davidstown and warn them of an imminent attack by the titular pirate vessel.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That on his return to Davidstown, the captain would check whether or not the place actually had been sacked or taken over by the Black Freighter before doing anything drastic. After all, the pirates might have been delayed by weather issues, battles with other ships, or even changed their minds about attacking Davidstown during the captain's journey.\\
'''Instead:''' The captain automatically assumes that the town has been taken by the pirates, despite seeing no evidence of this. This leads to him murdering a moneylender and his girlfriend after mistaking them for collaborators, mistaking a scarecrow for a pirate guard, and beating his wife to death in front of his kids after sneaking into his old home to kill the pirates he thought were sleeping there. Granted, he's become unhinged from his recent travels, but still.\\
'''Result:''' The captain gets chased out of Davidstown by a lynch mob, and has little choice other than joining the Black Freighter's crew.
* In the first storyline of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'', ComicBook/LexLuthor announces there is a massive planetoid made of Kryptonite headed towards Earth, and in typical Luthor fashion, he blames Superman.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The heroes of Earth double-check this, maybe ask Superman, who by this point has spent several years as a selfless hero and member of the Justice League, if any of this is even remotely true, maybe get Wonder Woman to use her Lasso of Truth on him to make sure.\\
'''Instead:''' They instantly believe Luthor, and try to hunt Superman down.
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* In ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi'', Master Vodo-Siosk Baas has a highly talented student named Exar Kun who is also flagrantly [[FantasticRacism bigoted against non-humans]], humiliates his fellow students in sparring sessions, and keeps looking for knowledge about the Sith.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Vodo to check these tendencies as soon as he saw them and perhaps get some help from other Masters.\\
'''Instead:''' Vodo worries, but waits until Exar ''really'' crosses the line before trying to teach him a lesson (which doesn't work, because Exar has surpassed him in dueling skill). Exar Kun soon takes a short hop over to the dark side and starts an interstellar conquest. Characters elsewhere in the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' have used Vodo as a prime example of Jedi misjudgment.
* In the ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'' story ''[[Recap/TintinTheBlueLotus The Blue Lotus]]'', the son of the Chinese resistance movement's leader is discovered to have been poisoned with Rajaijah Juice, a potent hallucinogenic which induces a permanent state of madness.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he'd be confined to his bedroom, possibly tied to his bed and sedated, and ''definitely'' not allowed access to anything he might use to hurt himself or others.\\
'''Instead:''' He's allowed to wander around the house, unsupervised, and ''carrying a huge scimitar''. This results in him nearly killing Tintin when he wakes up at the house, and then almost doing the same to Snowy when his father fails to take the hint the first time around.
* Halfway through ''Franchise/{{Asterix}} and the Falling Sky'', an alien spacecraft (yes, really) lands in the Gaulish village, incinerating Cacofonix's hut as it does so. Near the end of the story, said aliens have left, and another, friendlier alien wipes the memory of the villagers, who then see Cacofonix's destroyed hut and immediately assume that Fulliautomatix and Unhygenix are the culprits.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Fulliautomatix and/or Unhygenix to point out that since Cacofonix's singing is so bad that it can literally cause thunderstorms, chances are he unwittingly summoned one, a stray lightning bolt set his hut on fire, and he just doesn't want to admit what happened. Heck, this would also explain the sudden fog that popped up (actually a result of the amnesia ray) moments beforehand.\\
'''Instead:''' They deny responsibility, but in an obviously half-hearted way that fails to convince anyone they're not the culprits. As a result, they both end up gagged and tied to a tree at the end-of-story banquet, a fate usually reserved for Cacofonix himself.

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* In ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi'', Master Vodo-Siosk Baas has a highly talented student named Exar Kun who is also flagrantly [[FantasticRacism bigoted against non-humans]], humiliates his fellow students in sparring sessions, and keeps looking for knowledge about ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'': Hoo boy.
** Jean Loring,
the Sith.old love interest of Ray Palmer, the Atom, decides she wants to get back together with him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Vodo to check these tendencies as soon as he saw them expect:''' Just ask him. He's clearly still carrying a torch for her, and perhaps get some help from other Masters.she was the one who broke up their relationship to begin with. He's a decent guy; he's not going to hold a grudge over it.\\
'''Instead:''' Vodo worries, but waits until Exar ''really'' crosses She decides to orchestrate a half-successful assassination attempt against Sue Dibney, the line before trying to teach him a lesson (which doesn't work, Elongated Man's wife, using Ray's technology, because Exar has surpassed this will make people think friends and family of heroes are being targeted and maybe make Ray worried about her enough for him in dueling skill). Exar Kun soon takes a short hop over to the dark side rekindle their relationship. The attempt accidentally turns into a successful attempt, and starts an interstellar conquest. Characters elsewhere in the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' have used Vodo as a prime example of Jedi misjudgment.
* In the ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'' story ''[[Recap/TintinTheBlueLotus The Blue Lotus]]'', the son of the Chinese resistance movement's leader
Sue is discovered to have been poisoned with Rajaijah Juice, a potent hallucinogenic which induces a permanent state of madness.killed.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he'd be confined to his bedroom, possibly tied to his bed and sedated, and ''definitely'' not allowed access to anything he '''So then:''' Apparently, Jean realized beforehand that this might use kill Sue, so she decided to hurt himself or others.bring along something to destroy the evidence.\\
'''Instead:''' He's allowed to wander around '''You'd expect:''' The evidence apparently consists of extremely small indents on the house, unsupervised, and ''carrying a huge scimitar''. This results in him nearly killing Tintin when he wakes up at the house, and then almost doing the same to Snowy when his father fails to take the hint the first time around.
* Halfway through ''Franchise/{{Asterix}} and the Falling Sky'', an alien spacecraft (yes, really) lands in the Gaulish village, incinerating Cacofonix's hut as it does so. Near the end
brain (there should be more, but [[ArtisticLicenseMedicine none of the story, said aliens have left, coroners noticed it]]). Bring along a shotgun, or a sledgehammer, or anything else capable of smashing the brain, and another, friendlier alien wipes the memory of the villagers, who then see Cacofonix's destroyed hut and immediately assume not only would that Fulliautomatix and Unhygenix are destroy the culprits.evidence, but it would be tricky to trace.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Fulliautomatix and/or Unhygenix to point out that since Cacofonix's singing is so bad that it can literally cause thunderstorms, chances are he unwittingly summoned one, '''Instead:''' Jean brings along a stray lightning bolt set his hut on fire, and he just doesn't want to admit what happened. Heck, ''flamethrower''. Not only does this would also explain not actually destroy the sudden fog that popped up (actually evidence, but a result flamethrower is a hell of a lot more traceable than a sledgehammer.
** The Justice League are on
the amnesia ray) moments beforehand.scene and looking over the body. They notice it's been burned, first and foremost.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Them to look up fire-based villains. Even assuming they're somehow too dumb to notice the smell of propellant, a burned corpse doesn't leave many alternate options.\\
'''Instead:''' They deny responsibility, go looking for Doctor Light, because of a RetCon that he apparently raped Sue and he might want revenge for that or something. Not only is this completely gratuitous for a RedHerring, and not only does this not make sense, since it's a plot point that Light was mindwiped of the knowledge of him doing so, but Doctor Light's lasers shouldn't look anything like the kind of burns Sue had.
** Doctor Light has realized that the League is hunting him for reasons he shouldn't remember, and so he hires Deathstroke to protect himself. The League engages Deathstroke.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Green Lantern to just shove him
in a force bubble in the first five seconds, taking him out of the fight. Or Zatanna to say a few words backwards and instantly tie him up or turn him into a squirrel. Or... well, anything other than what they do.\\
'''Instead:''' They all lose their brains, [[ForgotAboutHisPowers forget how their powers work,]] and charge into melee range with a heavily armed master of martial arts with the strength of ten men. Deathstroke manages to knock out about half of them before being subdued by Green Arrow, who remembers he has a bow and can shoot Deathstroke.
** Loring has gotten back together with Ray Palmer, in the aftermath of all of the above and her own faked murder attempt.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Just call it there. It's already led to multiple deaths, a manhunt, and some horrible stuff happening; quit while you're ahead. Or, if you do want to try another death, hire someone subtle, since neither of the other attempts had
an obvious killer, so why would this one?\\
'''Instead:''' She hires Captain Boomerang, who is about as subtle as a flash grenade, to kill Jack Drake - and instead of just telling Boomerang to rough up Drake and let him go, she sends Drake an anonymous tip and a gun to protect himself. This ends in them both killing each other, and eventually to Loring accidentally revealing evidence that she couldn't have known about.
* One ''Franchise/{{Superman}}[=/=]Franchise/{{Batman}}'' team-up featured Doctor Light trying to take down Superman with a magic wand, explaining that apparently ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}'s magic has... something to do with light, nobody's really sure what.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He'd place the wand in his hand, point it at Superman, and kill him with it, since Superman isn't strong against magic. Having done this, he'd nuke Batman, thereby removing two of the most dangerous Franchise/{{Justice League|OfAmerica}} members.\\
'''Instead:''' He somehow gives Superman a secondary personality who believes that Superman is trying to kill him. This second personality duly hires a group of backstreet assassins to take out Superman with the Satanstaff, which [[PlotHole has somehow found itself at the North Pole]]. When it looks like it's going to work, Light comments that he used this kind of tactic because he personally is incredibly inept and if he tried the "sensible" way of doing it, he'd lose. For additional idiocy, he expected the crooks' Split-Personality hired to hand over the Satanstaff to him, despite having used it to take down both Superman and Batman.
* Mongul has just defeated Arkillo in a fistfight and now has a good portion of the [[Characters/GLSinestroCorps Sinestro Corps]] under his command.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He would take those members under his control, plus the Manhunters present, and stage a coup via numbers.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes at Sinestro solo and tries to kill him. Sinestro states that he has always been prepared for potential coups and has devised failsafes, namely emergency ring control overrides, and takes control of Mongul's ring. After impaling him from virtually every angle, Sinestro imprisons him within the central power battery.
** Stupidity runs in the family. In ''ComicBook/UnderworldUnleashed'', the demon Neron has gathered villains from all over and offering them their heart's desire in exchange for their souls. One of them is Mongul Sr., who had his ass handed to him by pre-FaceHeelTurn Franchise/GreenLantern Hal Jordan and [[RookieRedRanger Rookie Green Lantern]] Kyle Rayner.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Mongul to take the offer and use it to get back at Kyle and attempt at his dream of rebuilding Warworld. Or, if he doesn't want to sell his soul, just reject the offer and leave it at that. Neron allowed several super villains who refused to deal with him to go without harming them.\\
'''Instead:''' He proudly boasts that he'd do no such thing and ''attacks Neron''. Neron promptly kills him for his stupidity.
* During ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', a superhero named Risk was one of the many fighting Superboy-Prime. In the process, he got his right arm torn off.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Risk to stay far, far away from the guy.\\
'''Instead:''' The next time Prime is on Earth, he jumps out at him again with the apparent intent of punching. He promptly has his ''other'' arm torn off. It was admittedly pretty ballsy, but stupid nonetheless.
* In a later appearance by Superboy-Prime, he's fighting the Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} in the distant future, only to find that the Legion's greatest enemy, Time Trapper, is himself, aged centuries and now sporting a cool beard. Upon meeting, the Time Trapper insists that they need to team up to win the fight against the heroes.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Superboy-Prime to listen and obey, knowing that he had to work alongside his future self and he'd be a good source of advice and knowledge with his enhanced powers and time-altering abilities.\\
'''Instead:''' Superboy-Prime angrily insists that Time Trapper isn't him and that he "looks stupid." Filled with rage, Prime [[NeverTheSelvesShallMeet punches his future self which tears a hole in time-space and sends him flying back to Earth-Prime, powerless and trapped.]] Brainiac 5 even [[LampshadeHanging quips "What an idiot" after seeing it happen.]]\\
'''Also:''' Superboy-Prime's older self should probably have remembered that his younger self was unstable, easily antagonized, and prone to destructive rages. So, barging in there and barking orders makes the older Prime just as much of an idiot.\\
'''At Least:''' Superboy-Prime's consistent.
* In the "Absolute Power" arc of ComicBook/SupermanBatman, time-travelling villains [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight manage to replace the origins of Batman and Superman with new ones that turn them into tyrants]]. Eventually their memories are restored and they set out to correct the timeline. However, this involves traveling to the point where Batman's parents were murdered, and letting it happen.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Superman to do this in secret, as quick as possible without Batman's knowledge.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes with Batman, and fully expects him to just stand there and watch as the worst trauma of his life replays in front of him. Naturally, Batman snaps, kills Joe Chill, and saves his parents. This erases Batman from existence entirely and screws up the timeline even worse. [[SarcasmMode Good judgment call there, Clark.]]
* ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica:
** During his time in the JSA, [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] dates Stargirl. Captain Marvel looks like he's in his late twenties, but he's [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually a sixteen-year-old]] named Billy Batson; "Captain Marvel" is just a magically induced OlderAlterEgo. Stargirl, who is also sixteen,
obviously half-hearted way that fails knows about Cap's secret identity, but the rest of the JSA doesn't. Jay Garrick eventually confronts Cap about it.\\
'''You'd expects:''' Captain Marvel
to convince anyone say his magic word and reveal his true identity to Jay. Because they're not teammates, you know? No harm, no foul. Plus, this is the culprits. As a result, they both end up gagged Justice Society, they're some of the most trustworthy people in the DCU, and tied serve as [[MoralityPet Morality Pets]] to two generations of heroes.\\
'''Instead:''' Captain Marvel says something vague about appearances being deceiving, then flies away when Jay begs for Cap's confidence. Cap then quits the JSA and breaks up with Stargirl (much to the consternation of the shippers).\\
'''What's worse:''' You just ''know'' that the JSA probably now thinks that Captain Marvel is
a tree perv. So much for the Wisdom of Solomon, eh?
** ''JSA: Axis of Evil'': Kid Karnevil keeps bragging about how he's going to break out in mere minutes. The only thing keeping him locked up is a jail cell powered by Alan Scott's green magic, which only works as long as Alan is alive. Alan finds a strange wooden crate in a hallway of the temporary JSA headquarters.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Alan to heed Karnevil's warnings, since the kid has already proven to be a resourceful and methodical sociopath with friends on the outside. Alan should find Mr. Terrific or someone else who could analyze the crate (just to be safe), since Alan's green magic doesn't work on wood. Alan could later be of enormous help when/if Karnevil's associates attack the JSA.\\
'''Instead:''' Alan assumes Karnevil is delusional and ignores his warnings. A bomb inside the crate senses Alan's power ring. Alan gets blown up when he steps too close. He succumbs to his injuries, and surprise! Karnevil escapes.
*** Later, Shadow of War starts up the Darkness Engine, powered by Obsidian (who is trapped in egg form). The machine de-powers all meta-humans within its broadcasting radius, but doesn't affect technology. Shadow of War threatens to amp up the power to lethal levels if Mr. Terrific doesn't call off his T-spheres.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Mr. Terrific to break his lethal force rule (due to extraordinary circumstances) and accelerate one of his T-spheres into Shadow--or
at the end-of-story banquet, very least, the engine's computer--at 14 miles per second, before she can react. He had bragged about doing so in the previous story, when he battled one of Mordru's illusions. Either way, it would solve the problem, and they might even have a fate usually reserved chance to hatch Obsidian from the egg.\\
'''Instead:''' Mr. Terrific does nothing. The JSA surrenders. The Darkness Engine de-powers ALL the supers on Earth. The Fourth Reich [[BadFuture takes over the planet]]. [[KillEmAll Nearly everyone dies.]]
*** The Green Lantern Corps sees what happens to Earth. They notice that Hal Jordan died after his ring was de-powered and he fell out of flight. Naturally, the Corps quickly puts a Quul-level quarantine on the planet. Secretly, they plan an invasion to stop ThoseWackyNazis and the Darkness Engine on a day when the subtraction field is dialed back and doesn't cover the whole planet.\\
'''You'd expect:''' The Corps to quietly sneak some GL's (and other resistance) onto unaffected portions of the planet, and start working to destabilize the regime from within. At the very least, they could easily sneak some tech or something onto the planet to help stop the Engine. And further, they should NOT use their rings to fly, just in case the Nazis detect them, because of what happened to Hal Jordan.\\
'''Instead:''' The ''entire Green Lantern Corps'' {{Zerg Rush}}es the planet from space. The Fourth Reich naturally detects this and amps up the Darkness Engine. All the GL's are depowered and drop out of the sky like rocks, and all die upon impact.
* ''JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice''. Captain Marvel is turned back into Billy Batson, freeing him from possession. This happens in front of a lot of people, who are all very experienced superheroes.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Everyone to put two and two together.\\
'''Instead:''' Green Arrow says "Who are you? And where's Captain Marvel?" Really, Ollie? Just... really?\\
'''What's Worse:''' In ''Superman/Batman: Public Enemies'', when Marvel is changed back in mid-fight, Batman's thought box says "He's just a kid. No older than Robin." I wish I could tell you I was kidding, but no. The goddamn Batman couldn't even figure it out.
* ''ComicBook/SecretSix''. Yasemin, the woman who filled Deadshot's marksman position on the ComicBook/SuicideSquad, is pissed about being told that Deadshot did her job better than her and decides to engage him in a gunfight to prove that she's the better marksman.\\
'''You'd expect''' her to be familiar enough with Deadshot's "don't fuck around" approach to combat and lack of patience
for Cacofonix himself.trivial matters and plug him the minute she gets the chance.\\
'''Instead:''' Yasemin decides to challenge him to a duel; before she can even finish laying out the terms for the duel, Deadshot shoots her dead and coldly reminds her that she should have taken the first shot she had.
** Not long after, Dwarfstar has Deathstroke ice Ryan Choi. Of course, he didn't realize that Giganta was his girlfriend; when she finds out, he's savagely beaten and tortured by her and ends up just barely clinging to life in a Louisiana hospital. Then Ray Palmer shows up.\\
'''You'd expect''' that Dwarfstar would have been humbled enough by the experience to keep his mouth shut and not say anything. Not just because his teammate beat him to within an inch of his life, but also because Deathstroke doesn't take kindly to people who blab about hiring him.\\
'''Instead:''' Dwarfstar not only flaps his lips about ordering the hit on Choi, but he's also stupid enough to tell Palmer that he hired Deathstroke to carry it out. Palmer even lampshades this by telling him that when Wilson finds out, he's going to be ''pissed''.
* In ''ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' the U. S. government has noted that Superman is growing somewhat unstable, developing KnightTemplar tendencies, and most importantly interfering in political matters after the trauma of being manipulated into killing his wife and getting Metropolis blown up. He has also revealed his secret ID.\\
'''You'd expect:''' ''IF'' they involve Jonathan and Martha Kent in any way at all, the Feds would visit them and politely ask (not insist, let alone threaten, '''ask''') if they could help talk their boy into toning it down a bit.\\
'''Instead:''' They send commandos and supervillains (in particular the Mirror Master) to the Kent farm to kidnap them, and leave a message [[IHaveYourWife threatening to send pieces of them to Superman if he does not behave]]. Knowing full well that Superman and ThouShaltNotKill are no longer one and the same.
** Later, Batman merges with Etrigan, defeats Superman, and puts him to sleep by using some kind of dust (likely magical).\\
'''You'd expect:''' Batman captures Superman and makes a proper prison for him, also possibly taking away his powers.\\
'''Instead:''' ''Batman just goes away.'' And judging that it was a backstory, Superman gets out of the sleep, continuing his reign.
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' has sometimes had encounters with [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorphs]].\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Superman would realize that xenomorphs sit somewhere between a highly destructive invasive species and an intergalactic plague of incurably lethal proportions and would use his NighInvulnerability, SuperStrength and EyeBeams to destroy them wherever he finds them \\
'''Instead:''' He averts WhatMeasureIsANonHuman and tries to let them live, fighting non-lethally if he can and even attempting to prevent others from killing them. Admittedly, the first time he meets a xenomorph is canonically soon after his traumatic execution of three criminal Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone, but he never stops trying to find a way to "live and let live" with xenomorphs.
* In the first storyline of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'', ComicBook/LexLuthor announces there is a massive planetoid made of Kryptonite headed towards Earth, and in typical Luthor fashion, he blames Superman.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The heroes of Earth double-check this, maybe ask Superman, who by this point has spent several years as a selfless hero and member of the Justice League, if any of this is even remotely true, maybe get Wonder Woman to use her Lasso of Truth on him to make sure.\\
'''Instead:''' They instantly believe Luthor, and try to hunt Superman down.


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* A two-part ''ComicBook/DarkwingDuck'' comic story in ''Magazine/DisneyAdventures'': Gizmoduck is about to go pay a visit to fellow Super Power Union member Mr. Wonderful, but just as he's opening the door, he discovers that Mr. Wonderful is in fact working for F.O.W.L. when he sees him speaking with [[BigBad Steelbeak]] via videophone.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Gizmoduck to get out of there without being noticed and go alert Darkwing to tell him he was right.\\
'''Instead:''' Gizmoduck rushes into the room, preparing to pulverize Mr. Wonderful, who responds to his threat by calling the other members of the Union to come take care of Gizmoduck.
* ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' is another tale that starts out with a screwup. Two months after [[{{Gendercide}} everything on the planet with a Y chromosome drops dead out of the blue]], the son of one of the surviving congress critters shows up at the White House.\\
'''You'd expect:''' The U.S. government would promptly haul Mr. Brown to the most secure place they can reach and gather whatever security/military/police people to track down the following in this order of priority: A) a competent and functioning shrink; B) whatever salvageable sperm-bank equipment that can be found, along with a reliable power source; C) any medical/biotech experts that are remotely qualified to figure out why this boy is still alive and how to duplicate it/him; and D) the guy's girlfriend, last seen in the Australian Outback.\\
'''Instead:''' They send the guy, escorted by '''''one''''' [[ActionGirl secret agent sort]], to a cloning expert that was last seen in Boston before everything went to heck. Supposedly they were convinced by his arguments concerning being too easy to locate if he were in one spot, even the mother who was probably aware he was pretty hung up on this Beth person.
* ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}''
** The Bone brothers have been separated due to entering a strange valley. Fone Bone and Phoney Bone reunite in the dead of winter, and have sought shelter with the locals. Phoney Bone doesn't like how their hosts, Grandma Ben and her granddaughter Thorn, are all about rules and doing things their way. Fone Bone disagrees, not just because of his crush on Thorn, but also that they can't be picky about where they're staying in the winter, with rat creatures waiting for a chance to eat them.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Phoney Bone to realize his brother has a point, pragmatically speaking. They need to stay together, since they don't even know where their brother Smiley is.\\
'''Instead''': Phoney Bone walks away after the latest argument. He doesn't even leave a note.\\
'''The Result''': Fone Bone doesn't find his brother until spring, and strangles him for the AngerBornOfWorry.
** Phoney Bone reunites with Smiey Bone, who is a bartender at a tavern where Phoney's paper currency is worthless, and you have to trade tangible goods. The owner, Lucius, rips up the money when Phoney uses it to pay for his drink.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Smiley would have warned his brother, or covered his tab.\\
'''Instead''': Smiley doesn't.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney has to wash dishes to WorkOffTheDebt, and he's angry that Smiley didn't tell him that dollars were useless.
** In the Dragon Slayer volume, Phoney Bone, sets up a scam to exploit the townspeople's paranoia of dragons by claiming to be a Dragon Slayer as the title implies.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the after cow race incident, where Phoney nearly tricked everyone into giving up their fortunes if not for Lucius intervening, the townsfolk would actually start thinking and realize that Phoney is full of crap.\\
'''Instead:''' They take him up on his "offer" and pay him riches. Not one of them, save for [[OnlySaneMan Lucius]], bothers to question him despite the fact that he doesn't bother even looking for a dragon. Not to mention that just the way he introduced his dragon slaying business should have been enough to alert at least one person. Perhaps it was because everyone in the room was drunk.\\
'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITERALLY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]\\
'''The Result:''' Phoney leads the town people off to hunt the completely non-malevolent dragon, (not actually even planning to slay the dragon, only to slip away and return to Boneville.) and the quite malevolent Rat Creatures attack the unguarded village. To be fair, Phoney DID unintentionally save half of the village because he led said half away from the village to hunt the dragon, so it's not as bad as it could've been.
** After this, the town is angry with Phoney Bone for his deception. They want to lynch him. Thorn steps in and saves Phoney Bone, pointing out that it was the villagers' fault partly since they believed him. As she points out, regardless of how they feel, now is not the time to blame Phoney because they need to regroup and make plans to survive with their home destroyed.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The villagers to realize Thorn has a point, especially when they find out [[spoiler:she's a lost princess and technically has the authority to overrule their angry mob]].\\
'''Instead''': They don't listen. Phoney then learns he's the target for the Rat Creatures because of his star shirt.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney runs away, both because he's scared for his life and because he truly regrets endangering his brothers, and he gets captured, while Thorn is nearly killed trying to protect him. [[spoiler:Fortunately, he wasn't the "partner" Briar needed to reawaken the locusts]].
* ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', Chapter 5 "The Laird of Castle [=McDuck=]:" Scrooge is called home to help his family protect their ancestral castle from their rivals, the Whiskervilles. He arrives just as his FieryRedhead sister Hortense is singlehandedly sending the would-be intruders running for their lives.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' ...well, ''anything'' except what unfolds here.\\
'''Which is:''' Scrooge's father instructing his uncle to take "the women" -- including Hortense! -- home while he and Scrooge handle things. The Whiskervilles even make sure upon their return (when they nearly kill Scrooge) that the coast is clear because she's gone! [[StayInTheKitchen Stupid stupid chivalry]]!
* ''Comicbook/KickAss'':
** Dave Lizewski wants to become a real-life superhero. After a few weeks spent walking on walls and wearing his costume under his clothes, he decides he wants to start fighting crime for real. His first attempt to do so ends [[RealityEnsues as well as you might expect]] with him getting beaten up by a trio of vandals, stabbed, and finally getting hit by a car. Ultimately he manages to survive and recover from all of this, and although he tries to give up the superhero lifestyle, he soon gets drawn back into it.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That if Dave was insistent about being a superhero, he'd try and take some martial arts/self-defense classes, or do something to give himself more chance in a fight, as soon as reasonably possible.\\
'''Instead:''' He does absolutely nothing of the sort until the next series.
** The Motherfucker wants revenge on Dave because of the latter's role in [[spoiler: the death of his father]]. He decides to go after the people Dave cares about.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Motherfucker to try and limit his victims to those connected to Dave, and not cause unnecessary bloodshed.\\
'''Instead:''' While going to attack Dave's crush, he and his supervillain friends massacre an entire suburb, respectively killing and injuring about 30 and 100 innocent people, including children. This results in the Motherfucker's friend [[CorruptCop Vic Gigante]] withdrawing police protection from The Motherfucker. And then, he decides to start another massacre in Times Square, seemingly for no other reason than it [[RuleOfCool sounding cool]]. Ultimately, this course of action leads to his downfall, and his actions turn him, and his secret identity, into figures of public hate.
** Pointed out by Kick-Ass in Volume 2, [[spoiler:after he & Hit-Girl find out that the Mother Fucker's plan is to burn New York to the ground - Chris is asthmatic, so ''what's he going to do when he blows up all of the pharmacys & hospitals, and he needs his medication?'']]
* ComicBook/TheTransformersMegaseries During a spotlight tie-in Ramjet attempts a coup on Megatron, and spends his time building resources and making plans to overthrow him. Being both a threat to his authority and ultra-secret infiltration plans (which make the Decepticons almost invisible to the humans), Megatron kills him and ends the rebellion easily.
** '''You'd Expect:''' Megatron to just recycle or destroy the body, take it back to base like what he did when he crushed Starscream's insurrection.
** '''Instead:''' He dismembers Ramjet and dumps his remains in the different areas of earth that Ramjet was manipulating. Giant robot parts are now in very public places exposing the Decepticon activity to the public. Years later the government reverse engineered Ramjet and mass produced drones based on his design.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'':
** At one point, Rorschach gets framed for murder, and ends up trapped in a building surrounded by the NYPD. Before storming in, the cops demand that he send out any hostages he's taken.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Rorschach to discard his mask, trenchcoat and hat, either hide them or burn them, and leave the building while posing as a released hostage. You wouldn't think he'd have a problem with dropping his disguise, given that he's been [[spoiler:masquerading as a doomsday sign carrier]] throughout the story.\\
'''Instead:''' He tries and fails to fight his way out, gets himself arrested, and is shut up with several criminals he's put in jail, all of whom want to kill him.
** The [[ShowWithinAShow in-universe comic book]] ''Tales of the Black Freighter'' features the captain of a destroyed ship making a raft out of tree trunks and the corpses of his crew so that he can travel back to his hometown of Davidstown and warn them of an imminent attack by the titular pirate vessel.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That on his return to Davidstown, the captain would check whether or not the place actually had been sacked or taken over by the Black Freighter before doing anything drastic. After all, the pirates might have been delayed by weather issues, battles with other ships, or even changed their minds about attacking Davidstown during the captain's journey.\\
'''Instead:''' The captain automatically assumes that the town has been taken by the pirates, despite seeing no evidence of this. This leads to him murdering a moneylender and his girlfriend after mistaking them for collaborators, mistaking a scarecrow for a pirate guard, and beating his wife to death in front of his kids after sneaking into his old home to kill the pirates he thought were sleeping there. Granted, he's become unhinged from his recent travels, but still.\\
'''Result:''' The captain gets chased out of Davidstown by a lynch mob, and has little choice other than joining the Black Freighter's crew.
* In ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi'', Master Vodo-Siosk Baas has a highly talented student named Exar Kun who is also flagrantly [[FantasticRacism bigoted against non-humans]], humiliates his fellow students in sparring sessions, and keeps looking for knowledge about the Sith.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Vodo to check these tendencies as soon as he saw them and perhaps get some help from other Masters.\\
'''Instead:''' Vodo worries, but waits until Exar ''really'' crosses the line before trying to teach him a lesson (which doesn't work, because Exar has surpassed him in dueling skill). Exar Kun soon takes a short hop over to the dark side and starts an interstellar conquest. Characters elsewhere in the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' have used Vodo as a prime example of Jedi misjudgment.
* In the ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'' story ''[[Recap/TintinTheBlueLotus The Blue Lotus]]'', the son of the Chinese resistance movement's leader is discovered to have been poisoned with Rajaijah Juice, a potent hallucinogenic which induces a permanent state of madness.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he'd be confined to his bedroom, possibly tied to his bed and sedated, and ''definitely'' not allowed access to anything he might use to hurt himself or others.\\
'''Instead:''' He's allowed to wander around the house, unsupervised, and ''carrying a huge scimitar''. This results in him nearly killing Tintin when he wakes up at the house, and then almost doing the same to Snowy when his father fails to take the hint the first time around.
* Halfway through ''Franchise/{{Asterix}} and the Falling Sky'', an alien spacecraft (yes, really) lands in the Gaulish village, incinerating Cacofonix's hut as it does so. Near the end of the story, said aliens have left, and another, friendlier alien wipes the memory of the villagers, who then see Cacofonix's destroyed hut and immediately assume that Fulliautomatix and Unhygenix are the culprits.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Fulliautomatix and/or Unhygenix to point out that since Cacofonix's singing is so bad that it can literally cause thunderstorms, chances are he unwittingly summoned one, a stray lightning bolt set his hut on fire, and he just doesn't want to admit what happened. Heck, this would also explain the sudden fog that popped up (actually a result of the amnesia ray) moments beforehand.\\
'''Instead:''' They deny responsibility, but in an obviously half-hearted way that fails to convince anyone they're not the culprits. As a result, they both end up gagged and tied to a tree at the end-of-story banquet, a fate usually reserved for Cacofonix himself.
11th Apr '18 8:10:32 PM Jayalaw
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'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITERALLY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]

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'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITERALLY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]]]\\
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* In the Dragon Slayer volume of ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'', Phoney Bone, sets up a scam to exploit the townspeople's paranoia of dragons by claiming to be a Dragon Slayer as the title implies.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the after cow race incident, the townsfolk would actually start thinking and realize that Phoney is full of crap.\\

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* In the Dragon Slayer volume of ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}''
** The Bone brothers have been separated due to entering a strange valley. Fone Bone and
Phoney Bone, sets up a scam to exploit Bone reunite in the townspeople's paranoia dead of dragons by claiming to be a Dragon Slayer as winter, and have sought shelter with the title implies.locals. Phoney Bone doesn't like how their hosts, Grandma Ben and her granddaughter Thorn, are all about rules and doing things their way. Fone Bone disagrees, not just because of his crush on Thorn, but also that they can't be picky about where they're staying in the winter, with rat creatures waiting for a chance to eat them.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Phoney Bone to realize his brother has a point, pragmatically speaking. They need to stay together, since they don't even know where their brother Smiley is.
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'''Instead''': Phoney Bone walks away after the latest argument. He doesn't even leave a note.\\
'''The Result''': Fone Bone doesn't find his brother until spring, and strangles him for the AngerBornOfWorry.
** Phoney Bone reunites with Smiey Bone, who is a bartender at a tavern where Phoney's paper currency is worthless, and you have to trade tangible goods. The owner, Lucius, rips up the money when Phoney uses it to pay for his drink.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Smiley would have warned his brother, or covered his tab.\\
'''Instead''': Smiley doesn't.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney has to wash dishes to WorkOffTheDebt, and he's angry that Smiley didn't tell him that dollars were useless.
** In the Dragon Slayer volume, Phoney Bone, sets up a scam to exploit the townspeople's paranoia of dragons by claiming to be a Dragon Slayer as the title implies.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That the after cow race incident, where Phoney nearly tricked everyone into giving up their fortunes if not for Lucius intervening, the townsfolk would actually start thinking and realize that Phoney is full of crap.\\



'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITTERALY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]

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'''What's Worse:''' His name is PHONEY. LITTERALY.LITERALLY. HIS NAME IS LITERALLY A SYNONYM FOR "FRAUD". [[spoiler: Okay, to be fair, Phoney [[HiddenDepths redeems himself and proves that he can be a hero too later at the end because he loves his family]], but still, It's not easy to trust someone who's name is a synonym for "lie".]]


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** After this, the town is angry with Phoney Bone for his deception. They want to lynch him. Thorn steps in and saves Phoney Bone, pointing out that it was the villagers' fault partly since they believed him. As she points out, regardless of how they feel, now is not the time to blame Phoney because they need to regroup and make plans to survive with their home destroyed.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The villagers to realize Thorn has a point, especially when they find out [[spoiler:she's a lost princess and technically has the authority to overrule their angry mob]].\\
'''Instead''': They don't listen. Phoney then learns he's the target for the Rat Creatures because of his star shirt.\\
'''The Result''': Phoney runs away, both because he's scared for his life and because he truly regrets endangering his brothers, and he gets captured, while Thorn is nearly killed trying to protect him. [[spoiler:Fortunately, he wasn't the "partner" Briar needed to reawaken the locusts]].
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* At one point in ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', Rorschach gets framed for murder, and ends up trapped in a building surrounded by the NYPD. Before storming in, the cops demand that he send out any hostages he's taken.\\

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** The [[ShowWithinAShow in-universe comic book]] ''Tales of the Black Freighter'' features the captain of a destroyed ship making a raft out of tree trunks and the corpses of his crew so that he can travel back to his hometown of Davidstown and warn them of an imminent attack by the titular pirate vessel.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That on his return to Davidstown, the captain would check whether or not the place actually had been sacked or taken over by the Black Freighter before doing anything drastic. After all, the pirates might have been delayed by weather issues, battles with other ships, or even changed their minds about attacking Davidstown during the captain's journey.\\
'''Instead:''' The captain automatically assumes that the town has been taken by the pirates, despite seeing no evidence of this. This leads to him murdering a moneylender and his girlfriend after mistaking them for collaborators, mistaking a scarecrow for a pirate guard, and beating his wife to death in front of his kids after sneaking into his old home to kill the pirates he thought were sleeping there. Granted, he's become unhinged from his recent travels, but still.\\
'''Result:''' The captain gets chased out of Davidstown by a lynch mob, and has little choice other than joining the Black Freighter's crew.
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* ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'': Hoo boy.
** Jean Loring, the old love interest of Ray Palmer, the Atom, decides she wants to get back together with him.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Just ask him. He's clearly still carrying a torch for her, and she was the one who broke up their relationship to begin with. He's a decent guy; he's not going to hold a grudge over it.\\
'''Instead:''' She decides to orchestrate a half-successful assassination attempt against Sue Dibney, the Elongated Man's wife, using Ray's technology, because this will make people think friends and family of heroes are being targeted and maybe make Ray worried about her enough for him to rekindle their relationship. The attempt accidentally turns into a successful attempt, and Sue is killed.\\
'''So then:''' Apparently, Jean realized beforehand that this might kill Sue, so she decided to bring along something to destroy the evidence.\\
'''You'd expect:''' The evidence apparently consists of extremely small indents on the brain (there should be more, but [[ArtisticLicenseMedicine none of the coroners noticed it]]). Bring along a shotgun, or a sledgehammer, or anything else capable of smashing the brain, and not only would that destroy the evidence, but it would be tricky to trace.\\
'''Instead:''' Jean brings along a ''flamethrower''. Not only does this not actually destroy the evidence, but a flamethrower is a hell of a lot more traceable than a sledgehammer.
** The Justice League are on the scene and looking over the body. They notice it's been burned, first and foremost.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Them to look up fire-based villains. Even assuming they're somehow too dumb to notice the smell of propellant, a burned corpse doesn't leave many alternate options.\\
'''Instead:''' They go looking for Doctor Light, because of a RetCon that he apparently raped Sue and he might want revenge for that or something. Not only is this completely gratuitous for a RedHerring, and not only does this not make sense, since it's a plot point that Light was mindwiped of the knowledge of him doing so, but Doctor Light's lasers shouldn't look anything like the kind of burns Sue had.
** Doctor Light has realized that the League is hunting him for reasons he shouldn't remember, and so he hires Deathstroke to protect himself. The League engages Deathstroke.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Green Lantern to just shove him in a force bubble in the first five seconds, taking him out of the fight. Or Zatanna to say a few words backwards and instantly tie him up or turn him into a squirrel. Or... well, anything other than what they do.\\
'''Instead:''' They all lose their brains, [[ForgotAboutHisPowers forget how their powers work,]] and charge into melee range with a heavily armed master of martial arts with the strength of ten men. Deathstroke manages to knock out about half of them before being subdued by Green Arrow, who remembers he has a bow and can shoot Deathstroke.
** Loring has gotten back together with Ray Palmer, in the aftermath of all of the above and her own faked murder attempt.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Just call it there. It's already led to multiple deaths, a manhunt, and some horrible stuff happening; quit while you're ahead. Or, if you do want to try another death, hire someone subtle, since neither of the other attempts had an obvious killer, so why would this one?\\
'''Instead:''' She hires Captain Boomerang, who is about as subtle as a flash grenade, to kill Jack Drake - and instead of just telling Boomerang to rough up Drake and let him go, she sends Drake an anonymous tip and a gun to protect himself. This ends in them both killing each other, and eventually to Loring accidentally revealing evidence that she couldn't have known about.
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* ComicBook/DoctorDoom: In his OriginStory, he's a college student, aiming with a private project to open a portal to hell. That cursed Reed Richards, who was passing by, points several mistakes in his formulas. Doom shows him the door.\\
'''You'd expect:''' That, once Richards is gone and nobody will take undue credit for his project, Dr. Doom would check again the formulas, to confirm if they are right indeed, or if there is some mistake to fix. If Richards ''was'' right, nobody would know it, and Doom can deny him any credit. In any case, checking and double-checking his work several times should be a must when he does a project like this all alone, even if Richards never interfered.\\
'''Instead:''' Doom ignores Richards' warnings and proceeds with the experiment. It goes wrong, there is a huge explosion, and his face gets scarred beyond heal.
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