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'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]\\
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'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]\\reputation).\\
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'''Instead:''' She kicks her while her down [[spoiler: and spends so much time doing so she ends up getting zapped by Mitsuko's stunner and then shot dead with her own gun]].
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'''Instead:''' She kicks her while her down [[spoiler: and spends so much time doing so she ends up getting zapped by Mitsuko's stunner and then shot dead with her own gun]].
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'''You'd Expect:''' He'd play possum and wait for Kiriyama to move along (and, to be fair, he DOES do this in the novel [[spoiler: but Kiriyama goes back for a DoubleTap]]).\\
'''Instead, in the film:''' [[spoiler: After Kiriyama leaves, Toshinori ''actually shouts out'' "I survived thanks to my awesome bulletproof vest!"... at which point Kiriyama returns and beheads him with a sword.]]\\
'''In the manga'''[[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLive He fakes a death rattle]] in the hopes that Kiriyama would approach to check on him, at which point he'd shoot Kiriyama. When Toshinori springs to life, Kiriyama quickly jumps between Toshinori's legs and [[GroinAttack fires a volley of bullets into his unguarded dick]].]] For extra points, Kazuo was intent on chasing Hiroki down at the time so he could easily have escaped.\\
'''For some reason:''' He is only called out on being an idiot in the novel, where the LemonyNarrator says he should have remembered that Kiriyama confirms his kills.
'''Instead, in the film:''' [[spoiler: After Kiriyama leaves, Toshinori ''actually shouts out'' "I survived thanks to my awesome bulletproof vest!"... at which point Kiriyama returns and beheads him with a sword.]]\\
'''In the manga'''[[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLive He fakes a death rattle]] in the hopes that Kiriyama would approach to check on him, at which point he'd shoot Kiriyama. When Toshinori springs to life, Kiriyama quickly jumps between Toshinori's legs and [[GroinAttack fires a volley of bullets into his unguarded dick]].]] For extra points, Kazuo was intent on chasing Hiroki down at the time so he could easily have escaped.\\
'''For some reason:''' He is only called out on being an idiot in the novel, where the LemonyNarrator says he should have remembered that Kiriyama confirms his kills.
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'''You'd Expect:''' He'd simply play possum and wait for Kiriyama to move along (and, to be fair, he DOES do this in the novel [[spoiler: novel, but Kiriyama goes back for a DoubleTap]]).DoubleTap).\\
'''Instead, in the film:'''[[spoiler: After Kiriyama leaves, Toshinori ''actually shouts out'' "I survived thanks to my awesome bulletproof vest!"... at which point Kiriyama returns and beheads him with a sword.]]\\
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'''Instead, in themanga'''[[spoiler: manga''' [[TooDumbToLive He fakes a death rattle]] in the hopes that Kiriyama would approach to check on him, at which point he'd shoot Kiriyama. When Toshinori springs to life, Kiriyama quickly jumps between Toshinori's legs and [[GroinAttack fires a volley of bullets into his unguarded dick]].]] For extra points, Kazuo was intent on chasing Hiroki down at the time so he could easily have escaped.\\
'''For some reason:''' He is only called out on being an idiot in the novel, where the LemonyNarrator says he should have remembered that Kiriyama confirms hiskills.
kills, despite his actions in the novel being the most logical in comparison to those of his other versions.
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'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, and you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
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'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, and you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
fingers).
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'''Instead:''' The plan fails; they think up a more dangerous, but also more direct plan on just bombing the school and escaping that could very easily go wrong. [[spoiler: The plan would've likely worked anyway, and Mimura does acknowledge the collar bit in the film, but Kiriyama came across them before it could be pulled off...]]
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'''Instead:''' The plan fails; they think up a more dangerous, but also more direct plan on just bombing the school and escaping that could very easily go wrong. [[spoiler: The plan would've likely worked anyway, and Mimura does acknowledge the collar bit in the film, but Kiriyama came across them before it could be pulled off...]]
off. Thankfully, Shogo, who already made the system vulnerable long before, manages to disable it fully later on.
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'''Instead:''' She kicks her while her down [[spoiler: and spends so much time doing so she ends up getting zapped by Mitsuko's stunner and ends up with her gun stolen]].
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'''Instead:''' She kicks her while her down [[spoiler: and spends so much time doing so she ends up getting zapped by Mitsuko's stunner and ends up then shot dead with her gun stolen]].
own gun]].
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* In the manga Hiroki manages to shoot Kiriyama seemingly dead\\
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
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* In the manga Hiroki manages to shoot Kiriyama seemingly dead\\
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).dead.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him; after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, and you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).
'''You'd Expect:''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him; after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, and you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
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'''Instead:''' The plan fails, they think up a more dangerous, but also more direct plan on just bombing the school and escaping that could very easily go wrong. [[spoiler: The plan would've likely worked anyway, and Mimura does acknowledge the collar bit in the film, but Kiriyama came across them before it could be pulled off...]]
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'''Instead:''' The plan fails, fails; they think up a more dangerous, but also more direct plan on just bombing the school and escaping that could very easily go wrong. [[spoiler: The plan would've likely worked anyway, and Mimura does acknowledge the collar bit in the film, but Kiriyama came across them before it could be pulled off...]]
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'''Instead, in the film:''' [[spoiler: after Kiriyama leaves, Toshinori ''actually shouts out'' "I survived thanks to my awesome bulletproof vest!"...at which point Kiriyama returns and beheads him with a sword.]]\\
'''In the manga'''[[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLive he fakes a death rattle]] in the hopes that Kiriyama would approach to check on him, at which point he'd shoot Kiriyama. When Toshinori springs to life, Kiriyama quickly jumps between Toshinori's legs and [[GroinAttack fires a volley of bullets into his unguarded dick]].]] For extra points, Kazuo was intent on chasing Hiroki down at the time so he could easily have escaped.\\
'''For some reason:''' he is only called out on being an idiot in the novel, where the LemonyNarrator says he should have remembered that Kiriyama confirms his kills
'''In the manga'''[[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLive he fakes a death rattle]] in the hopes that Kiriyama would approach to check on him, at which point he'd shoot Kiriyama. When Toshinori springs to life, Kiriyama quickly jumps between Toshinori's legs and [[GroinAttack fires a volley of bullets into his unguarded dick]].]] For extra points, Kazuo was intent on chasing Hiroki down at the time so he could easily have escaped.\\
'''For some reason:''' he is only called out on being an idiot in the novel, where the LemonyNarrator says he should have remembered that Kiriyama confirms his kills
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'''Instead, in the film:''' [[spoiler: after After Kiriyama leaves, Toshinori ''actually shouts out'' "I survived thanks to my awesome bulletproof vest!"...vest!"... at which point Kiriyama returns and beheads him with a sword.]]\\
'''In the manga'''[[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLivehe He fakes a death rattle]] in the hopes that Kiriyama would approach to check on him, at which point he'd shoot Kiriyama. When Toshinori springs to life, Kiriyama quickly jumps between Toshinori's legs and [[GroinAttack fires a volley of bullets into his unguarded dick]].]] For extra points, Kazuo was intent on chasing Hiroki down at the time so he could easily have escaped.\\
'''For some reason:'''he He is only called out on being an idiot in the novel, where the LemonyNarrator says he should have remembered that Kiriyama confirms his kills
kills.
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Actually in the manga? He was there. He just disarmed Oda and sees Kiriyama shoot him down, barely escaping himself. So yes, he should logically know.... agree with the other removed examples btw though
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'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]
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'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]] reputation)]]\\
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* In the manga Hiroki manages to shoot Kiriyama seemingly dead\\
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)
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I get that Mitsu is seductive, but... HE KNOWS this. It's still perverted and dumb.
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* When Mitsuko is caught trying to kill Tadakatsu, he decides to hold her captive for a while and make sure she doesn't try and kill him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' He continues to keep an eye on her due to her [[TheVamp terrible]] [[ManipulativeBastard reputation]] that he openly knows about.\\
'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]
'''Yep''': He actually ''starts off'' suspicious of Mitsuko, but [[AllMenArePerverts once Mitsuko does her thing]]...\\
'''As a Result''': He gets a sickle to the throat.
'''You'd Expect:''' He continues to keep an eye on her due to her [[TheVamp terrible]] [[ManipulativeBastard reputation]] that he openly knows about.\\
'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]
'''Yep''': He actually ''starts off'' suspicious of Mitsuko, but [[AllMenArePerverts once Mitsuko does her thing]]...\\
'''As a Result''': He gets a sickle to the throat.
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Flooding the island with mustard gas may have been the wrong move on the Administrator's part but it was a reasonable guess.
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* So the respective teachers in the Novel and Manga realize that Shogo lied about shooting Shuya and Noriko, and that they are still alive\\
'''You'd Expect:''' They realize that they could be anywhere, from the Ocean (The program ended, what's to stop them from attempting to hijack a boat) [[OhCrap to the very ship they're on]]\\
'''Or at least''' They tell someone about it and have someone start searching, after all they DO have access to all the cameras on the island\\
'''Instead''' In both versions, the teacher assumes that they must be on the island and orders it gassed. [[LampshadeHanging Shogo even tells him what a waste of money that is.]]\\
'''Then''' He decides that Shogo must die and points a gun at him.\\
'''You'd expect''' He shoots him immediately. After all, Shogo managed to survive the previous Program, so the teacher should know how dangerous he is.\\
'''Instead''' He gets distracted by some gunfire, giving Shogo an opening to kill him with a pencil.
'''You'd Expect:''' They realize that they could be anywhere, from the Ocean (The program ended, what's to stop them from attempting to hijack a boat) [[OhCrap to the very ship they're on]]\\
'''Or at least''' They tell someone about it and have someone start searching, after all they DO have access to all the cameras on the island\\
'''Instead''' In both versions, the teacher assumes that they must be on the island and orders it gassed. [[LampshadeHanging Shogo even tells him what a waste of money that is.]]\\
'''Then''' He decides that Shogo must die and points a gun at him.\\
'''You'd expect''' He shoots him immediately. After all, Shogo managed to survive the previous Program, so the teacher should know how dangerous he is.\\
'''Instead''' He gets distracted by some gunfire, giving Shogo an opening to kill him with a pencil.
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* So the respective teachers in the Novel and Manga realize that Shogo lied about shooting Shuya and Noriko, and that they are still alive\\
'''You'd Expect:''' They realize that they could be anywhere, from the Ocean (The program ended, what's to stop them from attempting to hijack a boat) [[OhCrap to the very ship they're on]]\\
'''Or at least''' They tell someone about it and have someone start searching, after all they DO have access to all the cameras on the island\\
'''Instead''' In both versions, the teacher assumes that they must be on the island and orders it gassed. [[LampshadeHanging Shogo even tells him what a waste of money that is.]]\\
'''Then''' Healive. Then, he decides that Shogo must die and points a gun at him.\\
'''You'dexpect''' Expect:''' He shoots him immediately. After all, Shogo managed to survive the previous Program, so the teacher should know how dangerous he is.\\
'''Instead''' '''Instead:''' He [[EvilGloating monologues]] to Shogo for a bit while pointing his gun at him and later gets distracted by some gunfire, giving Shogo an opening to kill him with a pencil.
'''You'd Expect:''' They realize that they could be anywhere, from the Ocean (The program ended, what's to stop them from attempting to hijack a boat) [[OhCrap to the very ship they're on]]\\
'''Or at least''' They tell someone about it and have someone start searching, after all they DO have access to all the cameras on the island\\
'''Instead''' In both versions, the teacher assumes that they must be on the island and orders it gassed. [[LampshadeHanging Shogo even tells him what a waste of money that is.]]\\
'''Then''' He
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Yumiko and Yukiko recognized the risk of death in their plan but went along with it because they didn't want to kill anyone and they believed there was no point to surviving towards the end of the game as the 24 hour time limit would just kill them all anyways.
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* Yumiko and Yukiko are two best friends and do not want to fight. Thinking that the others are just as scared as they are, proceed to head to an observation plateau and shout into a megaphone ''where they are, that they do not want to fight and everyone should proceed to this place to join them''.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Those two to realize what an idiotic idea that is and either drop the plan immediately or proceed to shout out and then hide themselves, to be safe.\\
'''Instead:''' They remain where they are and get blasted by a nice big volley of Kiriyama's sub-machine gun and their dying screams are heard through the megaphone.\\
'''Also:''' Shogo actually fired two warning shots into the air, to try to make them ''realize'' what a terrible idea that is and have them run away to safety, which also put himself, Shuuya and Noriko in danger. And yet those two '''still''' remained where they were, shouting more into the megaphone how they do not want to fight. Also, what goes up must come down, so Shogo could have inadvertently shot someone when the bullets fell back to earth.
'''You'd Expect:''' Those two to realize what an idiotic idea that is and either drop the plan immediately or proceed to shout out and then hide themselves, to be safe.\\
'''Instead:''' They remain where they are and get blasted by a nice big volley of Kiriyama's sub-machine gun and their dying screams are heard through the megaphone.\\
'''Also:''' Shogo actually fired two warning shots into the air, to try to make them ''realize'' what a terrible idea that is and have them run away to safety, which also put himself, Shuuya and Noriko in danger. And yet those two '''still''' remained where they were, shouting more into the megaphone how they do not want to fight. Also, what goes up must come down, so Shogo could have inadvertently shot someone when the bullets fell back to earth.
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The novel notes that Mitsuko is good at acting and charming people, especially men, so this isn't really an idiot moment for Tadakatsu as much as it is just Mitsuko being good at what she does.
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* When Mitsuko is caught trying to kill Tadakatsu, he decides to hold her captive for a while and make sure she doesn't try and kill him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' He continues to keep an eye on her due to her [[TheVamp terrible]] [[ManipulativeBastard reputation]].\\
'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]
*** He actually ''starts off'' suspicious of Mitsuko, [[spoiler:but [[AllMenArePerverts once Mitsuko does her thing]]...]]
'''You'd Expect:''' He continues to keep an eye on her due to her [[TheVamp terrible]] [[ManipulativeBastard reputation]].\\
'''Instead:''' He not only trusts Mitsuko, but [[spoiler: tries to screw her (despite her reputation)]]
*** He actually ''starts off'' suspicious of Mitsuko, [[spoiler:but [[AllMenArePerverts once Mitsuko does her thing]]...]]
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Hiroki doesn't witness Kazuo killing Oda, so there was no way for him to figure out beforehand that Kazuo killed Oda or even that Kazuo took Oda's vest.
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* In the manga Hiroki manages to shoot Kiriyama seemingly dead\\
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)\\
'''You'd Expect''' Hiroki of all people to remember that Kiriyama has a bulletproof and headshot him, after all, he was there when Oda was killed (at least so he thinks).\\
'''Instead''' He forgets and turns his back to Kazuo, you can probably guess what happens next. (To be fair Hiroki was under serious stress at the time, having just lost an eye and some fingers)\\
