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* GlowingEyesOfDoom: Another reason why The Great Owl is certifiably RuleOfCool incarnate. He's even voiced by John Carradine!

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** Technically, we do see [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] get hit pretty hard with a pulley and knocked off the rock, which may have [[spoiler: killed him]] before the block did.
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** Jeremy doesn't need a redeming moment at the end. He gets one five minutes after meeting her [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass when he fights off Dragon to protect her]].
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* {{GASP}}: Brisby does this when she sees bones from the Great Owl's previous kills falling after she slips on some.
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** Let's not forget TheKarateKid (the ''first'' one), [[{{ER}} Dr. David Morgenstern]], the announcer for {{Digimon}}, [[AnAmericanTail Fievel]] (yes, really), [[TheCarolBurnettShow Harvey Korman]], [[TheSpectacularSpiderMan Dr. Otto Octavius]] and oh yeah, [[TheRutles Eric]] '''''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''''' [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus Idle]]!

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** Let's not forget TheKarateKid (the ''first'' one), [[{{ER}} Dr. David Morgenstern]], the announcer for {{Digimon}}, Franchise/{{Digimon}}, [[AnAmericanTail Fievel]] (yes, really), [[TheCarolBurnettShow Harvey Korman]], [[TheSpectacularSpiderMan Dr. Otto Octavius]] and oh yeah, [[TheRutles Eric]] '''''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''''' [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus Idle]]!
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* SelectiveEnforcement: The rats are very protective of Thorn's Valley's secrecy, even borderline holding residents hostage to avoid risk, this is despite the fact characters such as Jeremy were shown freely entering and leaving it prior.
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** It's not so much he didn't think of that problem, as much as he so stubborn (and somewhat unhinged) in his efforts that he refused to believe it when warned.
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''The Secret Of NIMH'' was Don Bluth's first feature film after leaving Disney; it was even produced a decade after Disney itself had turned down adapting the original story. Bluth used traditional tools and methods as a way of fighting back against the movement towards lower production costs (and lower quality animation). While the film did poorly at the box office -- thanks in part to [[Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial its competition]] -- [[VindicatedByHistory it has come to be regarded as a masterpiece of animation in the years since its release]], with many animation enthusiasts and film critics regarding it as Bluth's best work. The film was released on DVD twice -- once as a single-disc set with no special features, and once as a two-disc "Family Fun Edition" that included a feature-length commentary from Bluth himself -- and 2011 saw a Blu-Ray release for the film.

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''The Secret Of NIMH'' was Don Bluth's first feature film after leaving Disney; it was even produced a decade after Disney itself had turned down adapting the original story. Bluth used traditional tools and methods as a way of fighting back against the movement towards lower production costs (and lower quality animation). While the film did poorly at the box office -- thanks in part to [[Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial its competition]] -- [[VindicatedByHistory it has come to be regarded as a masterpiece of animation in the years since its release]], with many animation enthusiasts and film critics regarding it as Bluth's best work. The film was released on DVD twice -- once as a single-disc set with no special features, and once as a two-disc "Family Fun Edition" that included a feature-length commentary from Bluth himself -- and 2011 saw a Blu-Ray release for the film.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Jenner's plan is clever in theory: destroy the Brisby House and kill Nicodemus so that the rats are stuck on the farm and he can become their ruler. The flaw in the plan is that he won't be able to rule them for very long because soon the rosebush will be destroyed and they'll all die. Not such a MagnificentBastard after all?

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Jenner's plan is clever in theory: [[spoiler: destroy the Brisby House and kill Nicodemus Nicodemus]] so that the rats are stuck on the farm and he can become their ruler. The flaw in the plan is that he won't be able to rule them for very long because soon the rosebush will be destroyed and they'll all die. Not such a MagnificentBastard after all?



* GoryDiscretionShot: Both played straight and averted. While Nicodemus' death occurs off-camera, we see the owl causally devour a still-living insect, Mrs. Brisby's cut (hey, it's a G-rated movie, any blood is gore), two characters stabbed, and some rather graphic depictions of animal experimentation, even if only for a few seconds.

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* GoryDiscretionShot: Both played straight and averted. While Nicodemus' death [[spoiler: Nicodemus's death]] occurs off-camera, we see the owl causally devour a still-living insect, Mrs. Brisby's cut (hey, it's a G-rated movie, any blood is gore), two characters stabbed, and some rather graphic depictions of animal experimentation, even if only for a few seconds.

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* TheJimmyHartVersion: Some sections of "Flying Dreams" have some notes taken from "A Friendly Face", a song from ''TheSmallOne'', another Creator/DonBluth production.



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* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimationSuspiciouslySimilarSong: Some sections of "Flying Dreams" have some notes taken from "A Friendly Face", a song from ''TheSmallOne'', another Creator/DonBluth production.
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* ActionMom: Ms. Brisby is an interesting example, as she's doing what she does to save her children, not because she has a love of adventure or thrill--in fact, she gets the crap scared out of her by most of the things she encounters throughout the film. But her bravery is what pulls her--and the audience--through.



* OneSceneWonder: John Carradine as the Owl. The whole scene on both a technical and emotional level could be considered Bluth's CrowningMomentOfAwesome.
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* WouldHitAGirl: Near the end, Jenner smacks Mrs. Brisby out of the way when she tries to warn the rats that NIMH is coming.
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* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana]]'s]]:[[spoiler: hitten in the back and then falled face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]

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* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana]]'s]]:[[spoiler: hitten both characters are hit in the back and then falled fall face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]
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* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana's]]]]:[[spoiler: hitten in the back and then falled face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]

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* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana's]]]]:[[spoiler: Montana]]'s]]:[[spoiler: hitten in the back and then falled face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]



** WordofGod: Don Bluth has mentioned in an interview that the The Great Owl and Nicodemus are the same character. Their similarly styled features show this relationship, particularly their glowing eyes, denoting their divine nature. [[http://www.adammcdaniel.com/Don_Bluth_Interview3.htm ]]

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** WordofGod: Don Bluth has mentioned in an interview that the The Great Owl and Nicodemus are the same character. Their similarly styled features show this relationship, particularly their glowing eyes, denoting their divine nature. [[http://www.adammcdaniel.com/Don_Bluth_Interview3.htm ]] ]]



** Let's not forget TheKarateKid (the ''first'' one), [[{{ER}} Dr. David Morgenstern]], the announcer for {{Digimon}}, [[AnAmericanTail Fievel]] (yes, really), [[TheCarolBurnettShow Harvey Korman]], [[TheSpectacularSpiderMan Dr. Otto Octavius]] and oh yeah, [[TheRutles Eric]] '''''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''''' [[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus Idle]]!

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** Let's not forget TheKarateKid (the ''first'' one), [[{{ER}} Dr. David Morgenstern]], the announcer for {{Digimon}}, [[AnAmericanTail Fievel]] (yes, really), [[TheCarolBurnettShow Harvey Korman]], [[TheSpectacularSpiderMan Dr. Otto Octavius]] and oh yeah, [[TheRutles Eric]] '''''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''''' [[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus Idle]]!
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** WordofGod: Don Bluth has mentioned in an interview that the The Great Owl and Nicodemus are the same character. Their similarly styled features show this relationship, particularly their glowing eyes, denoting their divine nature. [[http://www.adammcdaniel.com/Don_Bluth_Interview3.htm ]]
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* BeardOfEvil: Jenner has one.

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* BeardOfEvil: Jenner has one.



** What is very interesting about this is that, in the scene where Mrs. Fitzgibbon is hanging out the laundry and Dragon is sleeping near the back step (a scene which takes more of an omniscient camera view than the first-person view of the mice), he doesn't come across nearly so horrifying. Part of this may be due to him being drugged at the time, but it also comes across as him seeming a normal cat here but a monster in all his other scenes [[FridgeBrilliance because that is how a cat would look and sound to a mouse]]. (See TranslationConvention.)

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** What is very interesting about this is that, in the scene where Mrs. Fitzgibbon is hanging out the laundry and Dragon is sleeping near the back step (a scene which takes more of an omniscient camera view than the first-person view of the mice), he doesn't come across nearly so horrifying. Part of this may be due to him being drugged at the time, but it also comes across as him seeming a normal cat here but a monster in all his other scenes [[FridgeBrilliance because that is how a cat would look and sound to a mouse]]. (See TranslationConvention.) )



* ConspicuouslyLightPatch: While the characters' fairly straightforward animation is understandable in contrast to the sumptuously painted backgrounds, when something in the background needs animating, it can be rather jarring. The mud sloshing around the Brisby's house as they're trying to move it is particularly obvious.

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* ConspicuouslyLightPatch: While the characters' fairly straightforward animation is understandable in contrast to the sumptuously painted backgrounds, when something in the background needs animating, it can be rather jarring. The mud sloshing around the Brisby's house as they're trying to move it is particularly obvious.



* FurryConfusion: The Rats angst over this quite a bit. Though, looking at the farm animals, all of them show intelligence and act somewhat like humans -- to a point. Only the insects play fully realistic parts.

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* FurryConfusion: The Rats angst over this quite a bit. Though, looking at the farm animals, all of them show intelligence and act somewhat like humans -- to a point. Only the insects play fully realistic parts.



** Cecil the Caterpillar; despite being a con-man and a bit on the cowardly side, he goes out of his way to help out the protagnists with little motive. [[spoiler:He is introduced saving Timmy and Jenny from an eagle]].

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** Cecil the Caterpillar; despite being a con-man and a bit on the cowardly side, he goes out of his way to help out the protagnists with little motive. [[spoiler:He is introduced saving Timmy and Jenny from an eagle]].



* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana's]]]]:[[spoiler: hitten in the back and then falled face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]

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* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana's]]]]:[[spoiler: hitten in the back and then falled face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]] ]]



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* CobwebJungle: The Great Owl's lair. The Great Owl ''himself'', come to mention it. Hey, it [[RuleOfCool looks awesome]]!

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* CobwebJungle: The Great Owl's lair. The Great Owl ''himself'', come to mention it. Hey, it [[RuleOfCool looks awesome]]! awesome]]!



* PowerStrainBlackout: Mrs. Brisby, immediately following the film's climax, wherein she uses The Stone for the first and only time to move her home. She collapses as its power subsides, then passes out.

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* PowerStrainBlackout: Mrs. Brisby, immediately following the film's climax, wherein she uses The Stone for the first and only time to move her home. She collapses as its power subsides, then passes out.



* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation: One of the (if not ''the'') real instigators of it; animated films hadn't been made as seriously as this for quite a while when it came out and it would still be a few good years before ''WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' was made.

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* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation: One of the (if not ''the'') real instigators of it; animated films hadn't been made as seriously as this for quite a while when it came out and it would still be a few good years before ''WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' was made.



* {{Schizotech}} - crosses over with HammerSpace when Justin and Jenner pull out their '''swords'''. Considering that the rats adapt human technology based on their functioning understanding of it (well, at least in the novel), one might wonder where the hell they managed to come up with the idea that full-on medieval swords in tiny miniature version would be a good idea. Especially considering the kinds of heat needed to shape metal when they live in a flammable environment (it's a rose bush). In any case, for some this might lean into FridgeLogic country, and for others it leans in the opposite direction, however you can't deny that the combination of electricity, elevators, lighting... and magic and swords is a little schizoid.

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* {{Schizotech}} - crosses over with HammerSpace when Justin and Jenner pull out their '''swords'''. Considering that the rats adapt human technology based on their functioning understanding of it (well, at least in the novel), one might wonder where the hell they managed to come up with the idea that full-on medieval swords in tiny miniature version would be a good idea. Especially considering the kinds of heat needed to shape metal when they live in a flammable environment (it's a rose bush). In any case, for some this might lean into FridgeLogic country, and for others it leans in the opposite direction, however you can't deny that the combination of electricity, elevators, lighting... and magic and swords is a little schizoid.



* ChekhovsSkill: Timmy's ability to use a slingshot.

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* ChekhovsSkill: Timmy's ability to use a slingshot.



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* OffModel: Most of the film has standard but relatively consistent animation throughout most of the movie, but then the animation gets kind of sloppy when it comes to [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]], with his facial structure (especially his nose, going from mouse-shaped to a more elongated rat-like shape in some expressions) changing a lot during his scenes.
** Although the film makes the poor decision to include some footage from the first film as an introduction; the reason this is a poor decision is both because the sequel has very little to do with the original, [[InNameOnly save the names of the characters]], but mainly because the first film was animated by Creator/DonBluth's studios. The sequel was not.

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* OffModel: Most of the film has standard but relatively consistent animation throughout most of the movie, but then the animation gets kind of sloppy when it comes to [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]], with his facial structure (especially his nose, going from mouse-shaped to a more elongated rat-like shape in some expressions) changing a lot during his scenes.
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** Although the film makes the poor decision to include some footage from the first film as an introduction; the reason this is a poor decision is both because the sequel has very little to do with the original, [[InNameOnly save the names of the characters]], but mainly because the first film was animated by Creator/DonBluth's studios. The sequel was not.



* SaveTheVillain: Well, the villain [[spoiler: ''is'' Timmy's brother, Martin]], so he had a good excuse to save him.

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* SaveTheVillain: Well, the villain [[spoiler: ''is'' Timmy's brother, Martin]], so he had a good excuse to save him.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Jenner's plan is clever in theory: destroy the Brisby House and kill Nicodemus so that the rats are stuck on the farm and he can become their ruler. The flaw in the plan is that he won't be able to rule them for very long because soon the farm will be destroyed and they'll all die. Not such a MagnificentBastard after all?

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Jenner's plan is clever in theory: destroy the Brisby House and kill Nicodemus so that the rats are stuck on the farm and he can become their ruler. The flaw in the plan is that he won't be able to rule them for very long because soon the farm rosebush will be destroyed and they'll all die. Not such a MagnificentBastard after all?
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* TheJimmyHartVersion: Some sections of ''Flying Dreams'' have some notes taken from "A Freindly Face", a song from ''TheSmallOne'', another Creator/DonBluth production.

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* TheJimmyHartVersion: Some sections of ''Flying Dreams'' "Flying Dreams" have some notes taken from "A Freindly Friendly Face", a song from ''TheSmallOne'', another Creator/DonBluth production.
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''The Secret of NIMH'' is DonBluth's first feature-length film; it is based ''[[AdaptationDistillation very]]'' [[AdaptationDistillation loosely]] on Robert C. O'Brien's Newbery Medal Award-winning novel ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH''.

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''The Secret of NIMH'' is DonBluth's Creator/DonBluth's first feature-length film; it is based ''[[AdaptationDistillation very]]'' [[AdaptationDistillation loosely]] on Robert C. O'Brien's Newbery Medal Award-winning novel ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH''.



* TheJimmyHartVersion: Some sections of ''Flying Dreams'' have some notes taken from the A Freindly Face of ''TheSmallOne'', another DonBluth production.

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* TheJimmyHartVersion: Some sections of ''Flying Dreams'' have some notes taken from the A "A Freindly Face of Face", a song from ''TheSmallOne'', another DonBluth Creator/DonBluth production.



** Although the film makes the poor decision to include some footage from the first film as an introduction; the reason this is a poor decision is both because the sequel has very little to do with the original, [[InNameOnly save the names of the characters]], but mainly because the first film was animated by DonBluth's studios. The sequel was not.

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** Although the film makes the poor decision to include some footage from the first film as an introduction; the reason this is a poor decision is both because the sequel has very little to do with the original, [[InNameOnly save the names of the characters]], but mainly because the first film was animated by DonBluth's Creator/DonBluth's studios. The sequel was not.
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''This page is about the animated film'' Film/TheSecretOfNIMH. ''If you are looking for the article about the book or its literary sequels, see'' Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH.

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''This '''This page is about the animated film'' Film/TheSecretOfNIMH. ''If film ''The Secret of NIMH''. If you are looking for the article about the book or its literary sequels, see'' Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH.
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* YouDirtyRat: Guess who provides the page image.
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* AttentionDeficitOohShiny: Jeremy the Crow can't resist "sparklies."
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* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Had Timmy not been sent away to Thorn Valley, a large part of the film would never have happened. In fact, any of the Brisby children could have gone instead of Timmy and the film's plot would have been exactly the same. You can even go so far to say that if Timmy hadn't prophesised to be a great hero, then [[spoiler:Martin wouldn't have run off to prove that he could have been the hero, getting himself kidnapped & BrainwashedAndCrazy]].

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* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Had Timmy not been sent away to Thorn Valley, a large part of the film would never have happened. In fact, any of the Brisby children could have gone instead of Timmy and the film's plot would have been exactly the same. You can even go so far to say that if Timmy hadn't been prophesised to be a great hero, then [[spoiler:Martin wouldn't have run off to prove that he could have been the hero, getting himself kidnapped & becoming BrainwashedAndCrazy]].
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* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Had Timmy not been sent away to Thorn Valley, a large part of the film would never have happened. In fact, any of the Brisby children could have gone instead of Timmy and the film's plot would have been exactly the same.

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* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Had Timmy not been sent away to Thorn Valley, a large part of the film would never have happened. In fact, any of the Brisby children could have gone instead of Timmy and the film's plot would have been exactly the same. You can even go so far to say that if Timmy hadn't prophesised to be a great hero, then [[spoiler:Martin wouldn't have run off to prove that he could have been the hero, getting himself kidnapped & BrainwashedAndCrazy]].
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* HeGotBetter: Martin, somehow.
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->''"My child, we can no longer live as rats. We ''know'' too much."''
-->--'''Nicodemus'''

''This page is about the animated film'' Film/TheSecretOfNIMH. ''If you are looking for the article about the book or its literary sequels, see'' Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH.

''The Secret of NIMH'' is DonBluth's first feature-length film; it is based ''[[AdaptationDistillation very]]'' [[AdaptationDistillation loosely]] on Robert C. O'Brien's Newbery Medal Award-winning novel ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH''.

Mrs. [[WritingAroundTrademarks Brisby]] is a widowed mouse and mother of four living near a farm. With spring fast approaching and the frost melting from the ground, her family has to move in order to avoid the farmer's plow -- but one of the children, Timothy, has come down with pneumonia and can't be moved for a few weeks. Taking the advice of an all-knowing owl, Mrs. Brisby seeks the aid of the Rats of NIMH, a group of escaped lab rats that were rendered super-intelligent via experimental drugs. After meeting with the rats' leader, Nicodemus, Mrs. Brisby finds out that her late husband Jonathan had been a good friend of the rats -- and died while helping the rats carry out a plan to leave the human world behind. Nicodemus agrees to help Mrs. Brisby move her home, but some of the other rats have plans of their own...

''The Secret Of NIMH'' was Don Bluth's first feature film after leaving Disney; it was even produced a decade after Disney itself had turned down adapting the original story. Bluth used traditional tools and methods as a way of fighting back against the movement towards lower production costs (and lower quality animation). While the film did poorly at the box office -- thanks in part to [[Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial its competition]] -- [[VindicatedByHistory it has come to be regarded as a masterpiece of animation in the years since its release]], with many animation enthusiasts and film critics regarding it as Bluth's best work. The film was released on DVD twice -- once as a single-disc set with no special features, and once as a two-disc "Family Fun Edition" that included a feature-length commentary from Bluth himself -- and 2011 saw a Blu-Ray release for the film.

Years after the original film, a DirectToVideo sequel called ''Secret of NIMH II: Timmy to the Rescue'' was released. The film was (predictably) produced without Bluth's involvement. ''The less that is said about it, the better.''
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!!The movie series has examples of the following tropes:
* AbnormalLimbRotationRange: The Owl.
* ActionMom: Ms. Brisby is an interesting example, as she's doing what she does to save her children, not because she has a love of adventure or thrill--in fact, she gets the crap scared out of her by most of the things she encounters throughout the film. But her bravery is what pulls her--and the audience--through.
* AdaptationalVillainy: In the book the film is based on, Jenner is a much less villainous CommanderContrarian, and doesn't [[spoiler: kill Nicodemus]] like his film incarnation does.
* AffablyEvil: Jenner is possessed of a singular charm and charisma that makes it easy to see how he manipulates others around him.
** FauxAffablyEvil: Almost all of his charm and courtesy towards others is solely to meet his ends, and when things start to turn against him, there is no one, man, woman or child, he won't sacrifice in cold blood to keep his plan in motion.
* AmuletOfConcentratedAwesome: The amulet Nicodemus gives Ms. Brisby.
* BarefootCartoonAnimals: Most of the rats, with Nicodemus as TheOneWhoWearsShoes.
* BeardOfEvil: Jenner has one.
* ButtMonkey: Jeremy, a lonely compassionate crow that just wants to help out and find love; unfortunately, he is also a hapless klutz, tending to cause more problems than he solves. He's constantly reprimanded by [[BewareTheNiceOnes Mrs. Brisby]] until she eventually gets rid of him by having him see to [[YouGetMeCoffee trivial minor duties]], both of which he fails miserably with too. Perhaps a crueler example than a lot of Bluth's other examples, since Jeremy does not have involvement in the final climax and thus doesn't get to redeem himself (though he does get his "Mrs. Right" at the end of it all).
** He and Cecil retain this role in the sequel, albeit toned down somewhat; this is likely due to the zanier setup (Jeremy at least seems to have warmer relations with the characters, especially Timmy).
** Mrs. Brisby acts somewhat as one in more comical moments, though probably leans more towards woobie territory.
* CatsAreMean: Hell, the cat in question is ''named'' [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Dragon]]. Invoked again in the sequel with Muriel and Troy, the two alley cat minions ([[IneffectualSympatheticVillain albeit in a more pitiful sense]]). It is refreshing change in that this cat who acts just like a cat is considered bad, but doesn't get an undeserved comeuppance.
** What is very interesting about this is that, in the scene where Mrs. Fitzgibbon is hanging out the laundry and Dragon is sleeping near the back step (a scene which takes more of an omniscient camera view than the first-person view of the mice), he doesn't come across nearly so horrifying. Part of this may be due to him being drugged at the time, but it also comes across as him seeming a normal cat here but a monster in all his other scenes [[FridgeBrilliance because that is how a cat would look and sound to a mouse]]. (See TranslationConvention.)
** Inverted in the sequel. Muriel and Troy are actually brainwashed by [[spoiler: Martin]] to do his evil bidding, and are suggested to be the only villains that [[spoiler: don't escape the fire and thus possibly meet their demise]].
* CloudCuckoolander: Jeremy isn't the most stable of characters sometimes. [[spoiler: Martin under the influence of NIMH's experimentation in the sequel may count as a villainous example.]]
* ConspicuouslyLightPatch: While the characters' fairly straightforward animation is understandable in contrast to the sumptuously painted backgrounds, when something in the background needs animating, it can be rather jarring. The mud sloshing around the Brisby's house as they're trying to move it is particularly obvious.
* CowardlyLion: Mrs. Brisby, despite the heroics and limits she goes to save her family, has a visibly meek and fearful disposition. This is a movie that never forgets that its heroine is a mouse.
** Doubling as a CowardlySidekick, Jeremy, even if most of his acts of bravery are [[StopHelpingMe usually thwarted and go unappreciated]] due to being equally [[TheKlutz bumbling and dim-witted]]. That said, the guy ''directly attacks Dragon'' to protect Mrs. Brisby and even [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming retrieves Timmy's medicine from the scuffle]] (keeping in mind that ''everyone'' is terrified of Dragon). In the sequel he also endures his fears of NIMH to save Timmy (if somewhat at the eleventh hour).
* DeadpanSnarker: Only a short period in the company of Jeremy can turn even sweet Mrs. Brisby into an irritable snark. Even on the rare occasions Jeremy isn't causing trouble for her, she is [[ComedicSociopathy unusually condescending and dismissive]] towards him.
** Jenny plays this trope hard on occasion in ''Timmy To The Rescue''.
** Justin also does this in one moment of the first movie.
-->'''Jenner''': ''(He's been talking about how Nicodemus's plan to move the rats shouldn't be done)'' We were just talking about you.
-->'''Justin''': Well that's refreshing Jenner, usually you're screaming about us.
* DemotedToExtra: Mrs. Brisby in the sequel.
* DidntThinkThisThrough: Jenner's plan is clever in theory: destroy the Brisby House and kill Nicodemus so that the rats are stuck on the farm and he can become their ruler. The flaw in the plan is that he won't be able to rule them for very long because soon the farm will be destroyed and they'll all die. Not such a MagnificentBastard after all?
* {{Disneyfication}}: Averted somewhat. While the movie has some traditional changes from the original book (eg. more whimsical and slapstick-esque characterization and dialogue), some aspects are actually darker compared to its original material. The death count of pivotal characters is higher in the movie, for example. The sequel plays this straight, complete with musical numbers and numerous [[CanonForeigner comic relief extras]].
* DisneyVillainDeath: Averted, though the villain still falls. [[spoiler:Jenner dies in full view, as well as his (former) henchman Sullivan. Sullivan throws a dagger into Jenner's back before dying of a sword wound.]] They ain't comin' back.
** Arguably [[spoiler: Muriel and Troy]] in ''Timmy To The Rescue'' [[spoiler: falling down an elevator shaft. The tone of this is comical, though the fact they aren't seen escaping as NIMH as it is set ablaze leaves suggestion whether they survived]].
* EvilSorcerer: While his powers are all based around technology, [[spoiler:[[BrainwashedAndCrazy Martin]]]] of ''The Secret of NIMH 2: Timmy To The Rescue'' certainly seems to enjoy the trappings of this trope. Complete with robe and staff.
* FourLinesAllWaiting: There are at least four ongoing plots tied together in the original film--Ms. Brisby trying to save her children from the farmer's plow, the Rats of NIMH trying to leave for Thorn Valley, Jenner trying to sabotage their moving plans by [[spoiler: murdering Nicodemus]], and Jeremy the Crow trying to find a love interest.
* FurryConfusion: The Rats angst over this quite a bit. Though, looking at the farm animals, all of them show intelligence and act somewhat like humans -- to a point. Only the insects play fully realistic parts.
** And not even them in the sequel. Cecil, with his classy garb, ambition for money, and ''his own credit card'', is arguably more human than the vertebrate cast. Also compare the [[NightmareFuel spider of the original film]] to [[FunnyAnimal that dancing to "The Great Owl's" musical number]] in the sequel.
* FunWithAcronyms: NIMH - '''N'''ational '''I'''nstitute of '''M'''ental '''H'''ealth.
** Another use of NIMH is '''NI'''ckel-'''M'''etal '''H'''ydride, which is a common type of rechargeable battery.
** [[TruthInTelevision NIMH is a real organization.]]
* GoshdangItToHeck: In the sequel with Aunt Shrew ("Oh, to ''heck'' with him...").
* HalfDressedCartoonAnimal: The Brisby family. Most of the rats as well.
* HumansAreBastards: Aside from the NIMH scientists, mostly averted through lack of presence.
** The rats don't seem to hold any real grudge against humans in general, preferring to simply avoid them. When Nicodemus reveals the rats' story and the nature of the Plan, he makes it clear that stealing food or electricity from the humans is wrong.
* JerkassFacade: Brutus, the huge intimidating guard to the rat's hideout, is revealed as such in the original novel. The original film at first only vaguely hints to this ("Oh, that's just ''Brutus''..."), but he does try to help pull up the Brisby home; you hardly see him, and wouldn't know it was him if Justin hadn't called out his name, but he's there.
--> '''Justin:''' I'll get a line around the stones, now...''Brutus, quick!'' Get some rope; tie off those block lines!
** The sequel plays on the novel's concept, to the point that Brutus' is a [[GoodIsDumb bumbling]] GentleGiant near unrecognizable from [[NightmareFuel his appearance in the first film]].
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: "Aunt" Shrew. She is first introduced as a pish-posh busybody who walks around with an incredible air of self-importance, but [[spoiler:she soon demonstrates great bravery by warning all the animals about the plow and rescuing Mrs. Brisby from the tractor.]]
** Mr Ages is for the most part a cranky, unsociable hermit [[spoiler: though he nevertheless assists Mrs. Brisby with every plea she makes to assist her family plus is revealed to have been quite the badass himself, being the one previously tasked with ''drugging the cat'' before he injured his leg, as well as playing a part in the rats' escape alongside Jonathan Brisby]].
** Cecil the Caterpillar; despite being a con-man and a bit on the cowardly side, he goes out of his way to help out the protagnists with little motive. [[spoiler:He is introduced saving Timmy and Jenny from an eagle]].
** See also Brutus under JerkassFacade, above.
* KindheartedSimpleton: Jeremy means well, but his denseness usually does more harm than good.
* TheKlutz: Again, Jeremy.
* MamaBear: Despite her own fears, Mrs. Brisby will do '''anything''' to protect her children.
* ManipulativeBastard: Jenner.
* MindControlEyes: Jeremy after glancing at Mrs. Brisby's "sparkly" in the original. [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]] also shows an occasional gaze of these in the sequel, for relevant reasons.
* NeverASelfMadeWoman: Mrs. Brisby would not have gotten any help for her situation if she wasn't "Mrs. Jonathan Brisby".
* NoNameGiven: Mrs. Brisby is never referred to as anything other than Mrs. Brisby. The closest they get to giving her a first name is calling her Mrs. Johnathon Brisby, but that's referring to her husband.
* NonhumansLackAttributes
* ThePowerOfLove. "You can unlock any door, if you only have the key." According to the ThemeSong ''Flying Dreams'', "Love is the key."
-->'''Nikodemus:''' Courage of the heart is very rare. The Stone has a power when it's there.
* RavensAndCrows: Jeremy, a rare dumbass corvid.
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: Sullivan, despite threats from Jenner, ultimately refuses to play part in [[spoiler: murdering Nicodemus]] in the original movie.
** Jeremy and Cecil also refuse to join Timmy and Jenny in entering NIMH in the sequel (though both [[ChangedMyMindKid change their mind later on]]).
* ShooOutTheClowns: In both movies, the comical Jeremy more or less dissappears halfway through until the main climax is over. Cecil the Caterpillar is taken out briefly in the sequel as well, though does get some involvement in the final action (see above).
* TheSociopath: Jenner.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: A rare example of both mice ''and'' rats being good.

!!Tropes:
* ActionMom: Mrs. Brisby is an interesting example of this trope, as she is ''only'' doing what she does to protect her children ("Timothy... remember Timothy!") It is certainly not because she enjoys adventure or action. In fact, the film clearly shows that [[CowardlyLion she's scared out of her mind by the tasks she must do, but she is still courageous enough to pull through]], expecially when the action really gets going.
* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana's]]]]:[[spoiler: hitten in the back and then falled face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]
* AirVentPassageway: Seen in the flashback to the labs. {{Justified|Trope}}; ...they're rats.
* ArcWords: "Courage of the heart is very rare / The stone has a power when its there".
* AscendedExtra: Jeremy, though a lot of his relevance to the main story diminishes after his role portrayed in the book.
** [[spoiler: Jenner]] also is promoted to the movie's BigBad; in the book, he's only mentioned in the backstory.
* AvoidTheDreadedGRating: Don Bluth and company attempted to get ''NIMH'' a PG rating to have it appeal to a larger audience (the film ''definitely'' isn't very kid-friendly): there was a superfluous (though understandable given the circumstances) "Damn!" spoken by Justin, several on-screen deaths, visible blood, and a fair amount of nightmare-fueling scenes. For reasons beyond all understanding, the MPAA [[AnimationAgeGhetto still gave them a G]]. One would almost have to assume they literally didn't bother to watch it.
* BadassNormal: Though the rats are no less frightened of Dragon than are the mice, rats are too large to get into the house to drug him, leaving the mice to do it. Jonathan dies in one attempt, and Mr. Ages breaks a leg in a subsequent one. Both are genetically modified, but Mrs. Brisby is the one who succeeds with literally just a scratch.
* BadlyBatteredBabysitter: Poor Jeremy...
* CapeSwish: Jenner has mastered this move (which one feels he picked up from [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]]).
* CarnivoreConfusion:
** Lampshaded: "Owls eat mice!" "Uh...only after dark." There are bones strewn about the Owl's lair. Owls compact all waste into a pellet-like solid, bones and all (though these are probably from disintegrated pellets; the Owl isn't too concerned with tidying his lair). Not to mention the Owl seems to be completely nonplussed by this mouse but he'll gladly eat a passing bug.
** A more standard example is the fact that Mrs. Brisby is friends with a shrew. Shrews eat mice.
** As do crows.
** As do ''rats'', under normal circumstances.
** Basically, every non-relative she has a conversation with in the entire film would've tried to eat her in RealLife, except Mr. Ages. And even ''he'' might've eaten her kids if he was hungry enough.
* CatScare: A rabbit is used instead. The ''cat'' is the monster. After all [[FridgeBrilliance the protagonists are a mouse and a bird...]]
* ChekhovsGun: The amulet, [[spoiler:which grants Mrs. Brisby major telekinetic powers, enough to move a block many times her weight several feet.]]
* CobwebJungle: The Great Owl's lair. The Great Owl ''himself'', come to mention it. Hey, it [[RuleOfCool looks awesome]]!
* CoversAlwaysLie / ContemptibleCover: The suggested solution for your long-awaited two-disc widescreen edition DVD is to print the BadAss poster art seen above and paste it over the official art.
** It gets worse. The movie is now being sold along with the sequel, and guess who's hogging the cover? Timmy Brisby, from the sequel.
* CrystalBall: Essentially, Nicodemus' [[BuffySpeak whirling bronze portal-thing]], which allows him to scry on others from a great distance.
* DarkIsNotEvil: The Great Owl, who is neutral. Also, Nicodemus; not only is he scary and ugly (the "ugly" being mostly because of how [[UncannyValley disturbingly anthropomorphic he is]]), but also actually quite dark in himself (largely thanks to the fact that the colours in the movie are [[RealIsBrown quite dull and brown]], as was the style in fantastic films of the time).
* DesignatedMonkey: Jeremy for aforementioned reasons. Even regarding [[StopHelpingMe how much trouble his clumsiness and quirkiness causes]], [[GoodIsDumb he's too innocent a guy not to feel sorry for him]], especially since most of the time he is being punished by the protaganists he's trying to help ([[BadlyBatteredBabysitter such as Mrs Brisby's kids he was so convinced would adore him]]).
* DeusExMachina / ChekhovsGun: The ending. It can count as either. ChekhovsGun in that the stone ''was'' mentioned to have a power early, but DeusExMachina in that the power wasn't fully explained.
** In other words, it's a type 2 or 3 DeusExMachina.
* DoingInTheScientist: Amazingly enough, considering [[spoiler: what NIMH is.]]
* EveryGirlIsCuterWithHairDecs: Teresa Brisby and the large bow she sports on her head.
* EvilSoundsDeep: Jenner has a ''very'' impressive speaking voice.
* GiantSpider: In the Great Owl's lair, before it's crushed to a to pulp.
* GiantWaistRibbon: Cynthia
* GlowingEyesOfDoom: Another reason why The Great Owl is certifiably RuleOfCool incarnate. He's even voiced by John Carradine!
** Nicodemus's eyes glow, too - it's never explained why.
* GoryDiscretionShot: Both played straight and averted. While Nicodemus' death occurs off-camera, we see the owl causally devour a still-living insect, Mrs. Brisby's cut (hey, it's a G-rated movie, any blood is gore), two characters stabbed, and some rather graphic depictions of animal experimentation, even if only for a few seconds.
* HeelFaceTurn: See RedemptionEqualsDeath below.
* HumansAreCthulhu: Debatable, but humanity does seem pretty Cthulhuish in several respects here. In particular, the Rats of NIMH are understandably terrified of what humans would do if they found a society of transgenic sentients living in a rosebush in some farmer's front lawn...
* IdenticalStranger: Despite being different species and knowing each other, Nicodemus and the Great Owl have the same glowing eyes, same big eyebrows and same-length moustaches. See picture above.
* IllGirl: Timmy
* TheJimmyHartVersion: Some sections of ''Flying Dreams'' have some notes taken from the A Freindly Face of ''TheSmallOne'', another DonBluth production.
* LastBreathBullet: Knife, actually. It's how [[spoiler:Jenner meets his end]].
* LeaveHimToMe: Jenner pulls this, as he wants to [[spoiler:crush Nicodemus under a hoisting crane]]. Oddly, this is done as a murder plot and not (as it usually is) during a heated battle.
* LuddWasRight: The Rats of NIMH angst over their dependence on electricity, as they must steal it from the farm. The whole plan to move to Thorn Valley hinges on their becoming entirely self-sufficient. Mind you, it's not that they don't ''like'' technology or advancement; stealing electricity from the humans just is dangerously conspicuous activity for hyperintelligent rodents on the run. That and they're starting to gain some human-like morality and deeper emotion, such as the feeling of ennui as they realize that a life living entirely off the back of another was robbing them of self-worth.
* {{Magitek}}: The rats' technology is basically just magic.
* MamaBear: Not as violent as standard examples, but any mouse (especially a semi-anthropomorphic one) who'll enter the dark spooky lair of one of her natural predators, in order to save her children, deserves a mention.
* MeaningfulName: Farmer ''Fitzgibbon'', as in "son of an ape". Not helped by the fact that the prefix "fitz" was, in medieval times, widely used for the surnames of acknowledged illegitimate children - thus making it into "bastard son of an ape". Which is far more insulting, when you think about it.
* MrExposition: Nicodemus, but he actually does it well.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: "Oh, that's just Brutus." Also Dragon. [[RunningGag Only a bastard son of an ape]] would give their pet ''that'' name.
* NeverLiveItDown:[[invoked]] Justin suggesting to Mrs. Brisby that she remove her cape. The action also highlights Mrs. Brisby as a HalfDressedCartoonAnimal.
* NeverSayDie: Averted, consistently, in that even the youngest characters confront death head on and discuss the possibility openly.
* NoControlGroup: Averted; in the flashback, when Nicodemus escapes from his cage, the row below his are clearly marked "CONTROL GROUP" (though this was hard to make out in the [=VHS=] version). The book more clearly mentions them. In the film, they're using wild-caught specimens, which rather negates the control group in RealLife with lab animals that you can buy from breeders. (Yes, there are purebred lines of lab rats and mice.)
** Explained a bit better in the book, as domestic lab rats are reared in plain cages and thus don't get the mental stimulation that wild ones do. Using wild-caught rats for both the experimental and control groups gave the researchers' subjects an intellectual head start, even before being injected with brain enhancers.
* ObviouslyEvil: Jenner wears an OminousOperaCape, with BigOlEyebrows that he's constantly arching, and has a [[BeardOfEvil long goatee]]. He may as well walk around wearing a sign around his neck saying "Evil Megalomaniac."
* OlderThanTheyLook: Nicodemus mentions to Mrs. Brisby that the genetic manipulation slowed their aging process, and that Johnathan would have continued to live on and still look young while she grew old.
* OminousOperaCape: Jenner, and he uses it for an impressive CapeSwish.
* OneSceneWonder: John Carradine as the Owl. The whole scene on both a technical and emotional level could be considered Bluth's CrowningMomentOfAwesome.
* OwlBeDamned: Seriously, the Great Owl.
* PapaWolf: Jeremy ''tries'' to act as one, but ultimately his clumsiness intervenes -- as well as inadvertently falling under the wrath of a MamaBear in the process. That said he does act out a pretty valid showing of this for Mrs. Brisby, and to a lesser extent, Timmy.
* PlayingWithSyringes: The scenes set within NIMH.
* PluckyComicRelief: Jeremy, somewhat.
* PlummetPerspective: Used a few times.
* PowerGlows: Nicodemus is the king of Glowy Thingies of Power.
* ThePowerOfLove: Mrs. Brisby's greatest gift.
* PowerStrainBlackout: Mrs. Brisby, immediately following the film's climax, wherein she uses The Stone for the first and only time to move her home. She collapses as its power subsides, then passes out.
* PrecisionFStrike: "Damn..."
* PsychicPowers: Nicodemus has Telekinesis, and Mrs. Brisby pulls some tricks at the end.
* RedemptionEqualsDeath: Sullivan, who, after being [[spoiler:slashed in the chest by Jenner, puts a knife in his back as he prepares to kill Justin]].
* RedFilterOfDoom: During Brisby's encounter with Brutus.
** Also much of the fight between Justin and Jenner is filmed/animated in reddish hues.
* RedStringOfFate: This may or may not be an intentional usage; when Mrs. Brisby first meets Jeremy, he is tangled in red string, which he is retrieving to build a "love nest" for his future "Mrs. Right".
* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation: One of the (if not ''the'') real instigators of it; animated films hadn't been made as seriously as this for quite a while when it came out and it would still be a few good years before ''WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' was made.
* SceneryPorn: A lot of it, especially in the rat colony.
* {{Schizotech}} - crosses over with HammerSpace when Justin and Jenner pull out their '''swords'''. Considering that the rats adapt human technology based on their functioning understanding of it (well, at least in the novel), one might wonder where the hell they managed to come up with the idea that full-on medieval swords in tiny miniature version would be a good idea. Especially considering the kinds of heat needed to shape metal when they live in a flammable environment (it's a rose bush). In any case, for some this might lean into FridgeLogic country, and for others it leans in the opposite direction, however you can't deny that the combination of electricity, elevators, lighting... and magic and swords is a little schizoid.
** Possibly the swords are justified, as the rats did need some means of defense against predators such as snakes or weasels. While they probably had the know-how to build firearms, those would be too noisy for creatures that live in hiding.
* ShipTease: Justin and Mrs. Brisby flirt a bit over the course of the movie, but both have more important things on their minds.
* [[StabTheScorpion Crush the Giant Spider]]
* StealthInsult
-->'''Jenner:''' The Thorn Valley Plan is the aspiration of ''idiots'' and ''dreamers''! We... ''(sees Justin and Mr. Ages and [[SmugSnake chuckles]])'' We were just talking about you...
* StopHelpingMe: Mrs. Brisby gets irritated by Jeremy's continued antics, which are more likely to bring the wrath of Dragon down on her head than aid her. Eventually, she tricks him into leaving her alone by claiming that she needs him to look after the children while she is gone.
* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation
* TranslationConvention: In an interesting variation, Dragon's meows are rendered (except in a brief scene centered on the humans) as horrific, dragony roars to reflect that, as far as his prey is concerned, he lives up to his name.
** Possibly justified, as mouse ears are attuned to higher-pitched sounds than humans. A cat's yowls could quite plausibly be at the far low-frequency end of Mrs. Brisby's range of hearing, even though they'd sound high and plaintive to humans.
** Note that in the scene when Mrs. Brisby is imprisoned in the cage, and Mrs. Fitzgibbon goes to let Dragon in the back door, we hear him make perfectly normal feline meows. Like the scene where she's hanging the laundry, this moment is shown from more of an omniscient viewpoint than Mrs. Brisby's first-person angle, suggesting we're not seeing things from a mouse POV anymore.
* UnspokenPlanGuarantee: Averted; despite being discussed onscreen, the [[spoiler:plan to kill Nicodemus]] works perfectly. Almost. They wanted to [[spoiler:drop the Brisby house on him. Instead they kill him (in a stroke of luck) with the broken crane]].
* VitriolicBestBuds: Jeremy gains a strong liking and responsibility to help Mrs. Brisby throughout her turmoils. [[TheThingThatWouldNotLeave Mrs. Brisby on the other hand is more along trying desperately to brush the clingy nuisance off her back]] (in a progressively less gentle manner). She does seem to like him when he isn't causing trouble for her, however.
-->'''Jeremy:''': "So....do ya like me?"
-->'''Mrs. Brisby:''': "Of course I like you. Bye now!"
* WhiteAndGrayMorality
* [[WritingAroundTrademarks Voice Acting Around Trademarks]]: Late in production, concerns arose that the name "Frisby" would land them in legal trouble with the makers of the Frisbee toy. Many of the voice actors returned to the studio for additional ADR work in order to replace every instance of the name "Frisby" in the film with "Brisby". Only Elizabeth Hartman--the actress for said character--could not, so her lines were mechanically edited.
* YouFailBiologyForever: Minor quibble, but the injections administered to the rats in the [=NIMH=] flashbacks are much, much too large for a one-pound rodent to receive without dying of heart failure. The proper veterinary dosage for such tiny animals' injections has a volume of a fraction of a mL.

!!''The Secret of NIMH 2: Timmy to the Rescue'' has examples of the following tropes:
* ActionGirl: Jenny, who is arguably more responsible in stopping [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]] 's plans than Timmy. She does get a few odd DistressedDamsel moments however.
* AdaptationalVillainy: Martin, although due to [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashing]].
* AdultsAreUseless: Pretty much every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, [[WhatTheHellHero they say no for no real reason and keep her prisoner]].
** They say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location (especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie however, since they entrust several other people (including [[CloudCuckooLander Jeremy]] of all people) with it's location without basically holding them captive.
* AesopAmnesia: Timmy, at least ''three times over''.
-->'''Timmy:''' I should have listened!
* AscendedExtra: Though Timmy was a large plot point of the original movie, the character itself had little of a role or spotlight. In the sequel he is in the starring role. This role promotion is identical to that of the book's sequels.
* AnthropomorphicShift: Especially jarring since they show clips from the original movie at the beginning.
* BrainwashedAndCrazy: Martin (literally!)
* ChangingOfTheGuard
* ChekhovsSkill: Timmy's ability to use a slingshot.
* DemotedToExtra: Mrs. Brisby appears for only a few minutes of the opening scenes and a split second appearance in the ending.
** In fact nearly every character with the exception of [[AscendedExtra Timmy]] has a noticably smaller role in the sequel.
* DreadfulMusician: Quite literally; not many of the people who have their own musical numbers in this movie can actually sing.
** Eric Idle and Dom De Luise as usual kind of skirt around this, but their tendency to do so deliberately for laughs (in addition to the overwhelming NarmCharm in Idle's number) more than makes up for it.
* DudeWheresMyRespect: Mrs Brisby. The rats worship her husband for helping them but seemed to forgot that she warned them to move to Thorn Valley to escape from NIMH in the first movie. She doesn't even get a statue. For that matter neither does Nicodemos, who they seem to almost worship now.
* DudeWheresMyReward: Mrs. Brisby doesn't get a statue, despite being the hero of the first movie.
** Jenny also was arguably equally responsible for saving Thorn Valley than the prophesised Timmy as well.
*** Arguable nothing. She escaped NIMH alone, she went on a dangerous journey to Thorn Valley alone, and she was willing to go back and defeat the villains ''alone.'' She braved ''much'' greater dangers than Timmy, and later is, in fact, directly responsible for stopping the bad guy! There's nothing Timmy did that she didn't do, and with greater risk involved to boot. [[SarcasmMode I'm sure they'll get right on erecting her statue]].
* EvilBrit: When Martin becomes evil in the sequel, he inexplicably gains a British accent.
** And later he loses it when he [[spoiler: becomes good again, not to mention he reverts back to his young age without explanation!]]
* EvilIsHammy: Arguably [[HamAndCheese one of the better parts]] is Evil Martin's dramatically hammy performance in the later portion of the film performed by Eric Idle, who seems to have loads of fun delivering every last line. He doesn't just chew the scenary as Evil Martin, he gobbles it up whole, shats it back out, and then gobbles it up again, rinse and repeat twice more. ("You'll be happy. Oh, so happy, if '''you''' '''''just''''' ''''' SAY YYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!'''''")
* HalfDressedCartoonAnimal: Pretty much everyone, even the previous exceptions from the previous film (eg. both Mrs Brisby and Aunt Shrew wear large gowns).
** The sequel makes a ''strange'' joke about the rats wearing underwear, but the characters are clearly still not wearing pants.
* HeGotBetter: Martin, somehow.
* HeyItsThatVoice: Jenny is voiced by HyndenWalch. They also got Dom De Luise to come back as Jeremy.
** Let's not forget TheKarateKid (the ''first'' one), [[{{ER}} Dr. David Morgenstern]], the announcer for {{Digimon}}, [[AnAmericanTail Fievel]] (yes, really), [[TheCarolBurnettShow Harvey Korman]], [[TheSpectacularSpiderMan Dr. Otto Octavius]] and oh yeah, [[TheRutles Eric]] '''''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''''' [[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus Idle]]!
* HumanoidFemaleAnimal: Jenny, despite also being a rare female variant of HalfDressedCartoonAnimal.
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty: [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]] with Jenny, intending on making himself a BrainwashedAndCrazy spouse.
* LargeHam:
* LaughablyEvil: [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]] is a sadistic maniac who desires to have the whole of Thorn Valley destroyed ForTheEvulz. On the other hand he is also a LargeHam of the highest order and offers some of the funniest dialogue in the movie. Being voiced by Eric Idle helps as well.
* LighterAndSofter / DenserAndWackier: Following the similar direction of the sequels to ''TheLandBeforeTime'', it converts the universe into a zany musical.
* LoveableRogue: Jeremy and Cecil, [[GetRichQuickScheme posing as the Great Owl and offering advice to animal civilians in exchange for "sparklies"]]. [[StrangelyEffectiveDisguise The scheme was actually pretty successful]] until Jeremy's mask fell off...
* OffModel: Most of the film has standard but relatively consistent animation throughout most of the movie, but then the animation gets kind of sloppy when it comes to [[spoiler: Evil!Martin]], with his facial structure (especially his nose, going from mouse-shaped to a more elongated rat-like shape in some expressions) changing a lot during his scenes.
** Although the film makes the poor decision to include some footage from the first film as an introduction; the reason this is a poor decision is both because the sequel has very little to do with the original, [[InNameOnly save the names of the characters]], but mainly because the first film was animated by DonBluth's studios. The sequel was not.
* TheOtherDarrin: Almost everyone. Particularly notable is Mrs. Brisby, whose actress from the first film had committed suicide, lending a rather dark and tasteless air over the whole thing.
* RageAgainstTheMentor: Very mild version; Timmy just decides he's had enough of everyone's bullshit and helps Jenny escape via [[{{Balloonacy}} the Thorn Valley equivalent of a hot-air balloon]].
* SaveTheVillain: Well, the villain [[spoiler: ''is'' Timmy's brother, Martin]], so he had a good excuse to save him.
* SelfFulfillingProphecy: Had Timmy not been sent away to Thorn Valley, a large part of the film would never have happened. In fact, any of the Brisby children could have gone instead of Timmy and the film's plot would have been exactly the same.
* SissyVillain: Doctor Valentine in the sequel. Might as well call him "the camp evil scientist that wears eye liner" (seriously).
* VillainSong: "If You Just Say Yes"
* WeCanRuleTogether: [[spoiler: Evil!Martin to Timmy, with the added bonus of some sort of implied lobotomy so Timmy will be just as evil and ''oh so happy'' as him.]]
* WellDoneSonGuy: "So, Timmy, your dad was practically a living god. We just can't stop praising him and, since some random prophecy said you were going to be the hero of this movie, we WILL make you be just like him. No complaints. Questions?"

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