History WesternAnimation / SupermanVsTheElite

28th Apr '17 8:27:09 AM ritzoreo
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* CompressedAdaptation: LexLuthor appears as the US president for a few panels in the original comic book and he's left out in the animated version.
23rd Apr '17 12:41:45 PM hubakon1368
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** What Manchester Black [[spoiler: does to a bunch of Bialyian soldiers and terrorists with his telekinesis and telepathy.]]



** Also, what Manchester Black [[spoiler: does to a bunch of Bialyian soldiers and terrorists with his telekinesis and telepathy.]]



* CurbStompBattle: Subverted [[spoiler:in that the Elite are certain they've defeated Superman this way.]] Played straight [[spoiler:afterwards by Superman in finally dealing with the Elite.]]

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* CurbStompBattle: Subverted [[spoiler:in that the Elite are certain they've defeated Superman this way.]] Played straight [[spoiler:afterwards by Superman in finally dealing with the Elite.]]


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** Subverted [[spoiler:in that the Elite are certain they've defeated Superman this way.]] Played straight [[spoiler:afterwards by Superman in finally dealing with the Elite.]]
17th Apr '17 3:09:54 AM Shivader
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* DeconRecomSwitch: ThouShaltNotKill tropes. Just like the comic, this is the major theme of the whole movie.

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* DeconRecomSwitch: DeconReconSwitch: ThouShaltNotKill tropes. Just like the comic, this is the major theme of the whole movie.
12th Apr '17 6:34:19 AM Stranrep
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* DeconRecomSwitch: ThouShaltNotKill tropes. Just like the comic, this is the major theme of the whole movie.
** {{Deconstructed}}: By allowing villains to live and be imprisoned in improper prisons or not executed, Superman's actions leads to JokerImmunity, where many people die, villains go unpunished and have reasons to go on, and survivors cheer for {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s like the Elite, who, for example, killed Atomic Skull, stopping his terrifying actions. But...
** {{Reconstructed}}: [[spoiler: The Elite start by killing criminals, then try to kill Superman, then decide to blow up the city when he becomes like them... showing that killing can lead into JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope and HeWhoFightsMonsters territory. When Superman acts as if he's abandoned his non-killing policy, [[BewareTheSuperman he terrifies the entire world, and seemingly doesn't care about collateral damage or people.]] Then it turns out to be a BatmanGambit to show the world how horrible it would be if he started murdering criminals. It works.]]



* HeWhoFightsMonsters: [[spoiler:Superman eventually decides to give the Elite an object lesson in this.]]

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: [[spoiler:Superman [[spoiler: Superman eventually decides to give the Elite an object lesson in this.]]



* ThouShaltNotKill: Just like the comic, this is the major theme of the whole movie. Both {{Deconstructed}} and {{Reconstructed}}:
** {{Deconstructed}}: By allowing villains to live and be imprisoned in improper prisons or not executed, Superman's actions leads to JokerImmunity, where many people die, and survivors cheer for {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s like the Elite, who, for example, killed Atomic Skull, stopping his terrifying actions. But...
** {{Reconstructed}}: [[spoiler: The Elite start by killing criminals, then try to kill Superman, then decide to blow up the city when he becomes like them... showing that killing may lead to JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope and HeWhoFightsMonsters territory. When Superman acts as if he's abandoned his non-killing policy, [[BewareTheSuperman he terrifies the entire world, and seemingly doesn't care about collateral damage or innocent life.]] Then it turns out to be a BatmanGambit to show the world how horrible it would be if he started killing. It works.]]
6th Apr '17 8:03:52 AM 309216364
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22nd Feb '17 6:09:44 AM AnotherGuy
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* AdaptationalVillainy: ''Superman'', sort of. In the comic, Superman only pretends to [[spoiler: lobotomize Manchester Black by essentially giving him a flash-bang concussion.]] Here, it's left ambiguous, though [[spoiler: the flash-bang still happens]] which seems to hint he didn't actually [[spoiler: lobotimze]] Black.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: ''Superman'', sort of.maybe. In the comic, Superman only pretends to [[spoiler: lobotomize Manchester Black by essentially giving him a flash-bang concussion.]] Here, it's left ambiguous, though [[spoiler: the flash-bang still happens]] which seems to hint he didn't actually [[spoiler: lobotimze]] Black. Anyone who didn't read the comic won't know any of this, however, and assume Superman did the dirty deed.
22nd Feb '17 6:08:40 AM AnotherGuy
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* AdaptationalVillainy: ''Superman'', sort of. In the comic, Superman only pretends to [[spoiler: lobotomize Manchester Black.]] Here, he actually does it, as well as [[spoiler: strip the rest of the Elite of their superpowers,]] which Superman rarely does.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: ''Superman'', sort of. In the comic, Superman only pretends to [[spoiler: lobotomize Manchester Black.Black by essentially giving him a flash-bang concussion.]] Here, he actually does it, as well as it's left ambiguous, though [[spoiler: strip the rest of the Elite of their superpowers,]] flash-bang still happens]] which Superman rarely does.seems to hint he didn't actually [[spoiler: lobotimze]] Black.



* CherryTapping: Once Superman [[spoiler: lobotomizes and depowers]] Black, he dispassionately gives Black a few slaps across the face. Coming from Superman, however, they send Black reeling like he's taking haymakers from a heavyweight boxer.

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* CherryTapping: Once Superman [[spoiler: lobotomizes and depowers]] Black, he dispassionately gives Black a few slaps across the face. Coming from Superman, however, they send Black reeling like he's taking haymakers from a heavyweight boxer.



* YouCanBarelyStand: Manchester states this word for word to [[spoiler: Superman during their fight after he blasted him. Supes promptly lobotomizes him]].

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* YouCanBarelyStand: Manchester states this word for word to [[spoiler: Superman during their fight after he blasted him. Supes promptly lobotomizes depowers him]].
13th Feb '17 11:33:33 PM Qube
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** And later:
-->'''Superman:''' [[spoiler:See? I finally bought what you've been selling!]]

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** And later:
earlier:
-->'''Superman:''' [[spoiler:See? I finally bought what you've been selling!]][[spoiler:I made the mistake of treating you people like... ''People''... The world needs people in charge who are ''willing to put the animals down''.]]
12th Feb '17 10:21:55 PM Qube
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* CherryTapping: Once Superman [[spoiler: lobotomizes and depowers]] Black, he calmly and coldly gives Black a couple of slaps across the face. With all his power and all his invulnerability, this is exactly the worst kind of nightmare Superman could inflict on ANYONE.

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* CherryTapping: Once Superman [[spoiler: lobotomizes and depowers]] Black, he calmly and coldly dispassionately gives Black a couple of few slaps across the face. With all his power and all his invulnerability, this is exactly the worst kind of nightmare Superman could inflict on ANYONE.Coming from Superman, however, they send Black reeling like he's taking haymakers from a heavyweight boxer.
4th Dec '16 1:09:48 PM Kadorhal
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* WhyDontYaJustShootHim: The Elite's method of beating the bad guys revolves around this. Superman [[spoiler:decides to show them precisely [[BewareTheSuperman why]] a superhero should not do this.]]
--> '''Black:''' You crazy son of a bitch! ''You killed my team!!''
--> [[spoiler:'''Superman:''']] Your team of killers. And guess what? [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim They won't be killing anyone else.]]

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* WhyDontYaJustShootHim: WhyDontYouJustShootHim: The Elite's method of beating the bad guys revolves around this. Superman [[spoiler:decides to show them precisely [[BewareTheSuperman why]] a superhero should not do this.]]
--> '''Black:''' -->'''Black:''' You crazy son of a bitch! ''You killed my team!!''
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team!!''\\
[[spoiler:'''Superman:''']] Your team of killers. And guess what? [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim They won't be killing anyone else.]]



--> '''Superman:''' We have to show the world that there's a better way. That they can be better.
--> '''Manchester Black:''' But that's the problem. They can't.

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--> '''Superman:''' -->'''Superman:''' We have to show the world that there's a better way. That they can be better.
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better.\\
'''Manchester Black:''' But that's the problem. They can't.
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