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* FriendToAllChildren: Mulan teaches the local children and they clearly like her. However, when asked if she and Shang will have children themselves, Mulan is hesitant to say more than one or two. But she doesn't agree with Shang in that the more children they will have, the better.
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* FriendToAllChildren: Mulan teaches the local children and they clearly like her. However, when asked if she and Shang they will have children themselves, Mulan is seems more hesitant to say more than and claims she'd only want one or two. But she doesn't agree with Shang two, in that the more children they will have, the better.stark contrast to Shang's desire to have "as many as possible".
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* CluelessAesop: Okay, Heart over Duty isn't such a bad Aesop. Unfortunately, we're talking about ''princesses'' -- and they've already been betrothed. They can't just run off with a bunch of soldiers. But apparently, it's okay because your personal happiness is more important than the fate of your father's empire and the lives of his millions of subjects, and the millions of subjects of the neighboring kingdom. Even though you haven't known these soldiers much longer anyway. The only reason this was even allowed to happen was by way of [[DeusExMachina Dragon Ex Machina]]. In any other situation, these decisions would have doomed both kingdoms.
* DeusExMachina: Employed in the original style as Mushu climbs into an idol of the Unity Dragon and makes supposedly divine pronouncements (punctuated with a bit of fire-breathing) that neatly resolve what has become a very tangled situation.
* DeusExMachina: Employed in the original style as Mushu climbs into an idol of the Unity Dragon and makes supposedly divine pronouncements (punctuated with a bit of fire-breathing) that neatly resolve what has become a very tangled situation.
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* CluelessAesop: Okay, Heart over Duty isn't such a bad Aesop. Unfortunately, we're talking about ''princesses'' -- and Mulan's stance against the princesses' ArrangedMarriage is heavily undermined by the high political stakes that the story attaches to it. While it is understandable that the princesses would rather marry for love than be betrothed to three princes they've already been betrothed. They can't just run off with a bunch of soldiers. But apparently, it's okay because your personal happiness never met, the marriage itself is more important key to a crucial alliance between the two kingdoms, and if it does not go through, enemy forces will literally destroy them both. The fact that the princesses have only known their actual love interests [[FourthDateMarriage for less than three days]] before choosing them over the fate of your father's empire and the lives of his millions of subjects, and the millions of subjects of the neighboring kingdom. Even though you haven't known these soldiers much longer anyway. The only reason this was even allowed to happen was by way of [[DeusExMachina Dragon Ex Machina]]. In any other situation, these decisions would have doomed both kingdoms.
their own kingdom doesn't help matters.
* DeusExMachina:Employed in [[spoiler:When Shang interrupts Mulan's wedding at Qui Gong and is almost taken away by the original style as guards, Mushu climbs into an onto the giant idol of the Unity Golden Dragon of Unity and makes speaks through it, making supposedly divine pronouncements (punctuated with a bit of fire-breathing) demanding that neatly resolve what has become a very tangled situation.Mulan and Shang be allowed to marry, while also releasing the princesses from their own arranged marriages.]]
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* FriendToAllChildren: Mulan teaches the local children and they clearly like her. But she doesn't agree with Shang in that the more children they will have, the better.
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* FriendToAllChildren: Mulan teaches the local children and they clearly like her. However, when asked if she and Shang will have children themselves, Mulan is hesitant to say more than one or two. But she doesn't agree with Shang in that the more children they will have, the better.
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* NoLovesIntersect: There are four couples here and no jealousy.
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* NoLovesIntersect: There are Each of the film's four major couples here - Mulan and Shang, Yao and Mei, Chien Po and Su, and Ling and Ting-Ting - are depicted as solely in love with each other, with no jealousy.jealousy or love triangles between any of them.
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* PlotIrrelevantVillain: The film's sole major action scene occurs when the heroes are attacked by a gang of bandits near the middle of the film. These characters are not named, they have no known connection to [[GreaterScopeVillain the unseen Mongolian army that are driving the plot]], and they're never seen again afterwards, and the scene's only contribution to the story is that [[spoiler:Shang falls off a bridge during the fight, and is temporarily presumed dead.]]
* PoliticallyCorrectHistory: In regard to its "arranged marriage = bad" campaign and the fact that Mulan ''got away'' with practically kidnapping the princesses and allowing them to marry commoners. This is in stark contrast to the DeliberateValuesDissonance in the first movie, where at the beginning, Mulan is dutifully preparing for the prospect of a marriage being arranged for her. This makes her adamant opposition to arranged marriages in this film even more startling. In fact, marrying for love is seen as a relatively recent (not to mention Western) phenomenon, with arranged marriages being present throughout almost all of human history, and is still the norm in some parts of the world.
* PoliticallyCorrectHistory: In regard to its "arranged marriage = bad" campaign and the fact that Mulan ''got away'' with practically kidnapping the princesses and allowing them to marry commoners. This is in stark contrast to the DeliberateValuesDissonance in the first movie, where at the beginning, Mulan is dutifully preparing for the prospect of a marriage being arranged for her. This makes her adamant opposition to arranged marriages in this film even more startling. In fact, marrying for love is seen as a relatively recent (not to mention Western) phenomenon, with arranged marriages being present throughout almost all of human history, and is still the norm in some parts of the world.
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* PlotIrrelevantVillain: The film's sole major action scene occurs when the heroes are attacked by a gang of bandits near the middle of the film. These characters are not named, they have no known connection to [[GreaterScopeVillain the unseen Mongolian army that are driving the plot]], and they're never seen again afterwards, and the afterwards. The scene's only contribution to the story is that [[spoiler:Shang falls off a bridge during the fight, and is temporarily presumed dead.]]
* PoliticallyCorrectHistory:In regard to its "arranged marriage = bad" campaign and the fact that Mulan ''got away'' vocally opposes the princesses' arranged marriage, and with practically kidnapping help from Mushu, is ultimately able to prevent it, allowing the princesses and allowing them to marry commoners. whomever they wish. This is in marks a stark contrast to the DeliberateValuesDissonance in invoked by the first movie, where at the beginning, which begins with Mulan is dutifully preparing for the prospect of a marriage being arranged for her. This makes her adamant opposition to arranged marriages in this film even more startling. In fact, her, and the idea of marrying for love is seen as only a relatively recent (not to mention Western) phenomenon, phenomenon. In this context, Mulan essentially got away with arranged marriages being present throughout almost all of human history, but ''kidnapping'' the princesses by taking them away from Qui Gong and is still the norm in some parts of the world. allowing them to marry commoners.
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* AllForNothing:
** Mushu's attempts to break Mulan's marriage end with this because [[spoiler:although they do get married, Shang decides to unite his ancestors' side to Mulan's, which prevents Mushu from losing his spot as the guardian of the family. Although, there's no indication that Shang would've done so anyway had Mulan not told him about Mushu.]]
** The whole plotline about needing an arranged marriage to unite the two kingdoms [[spoiler: is discarded entirely, and how the Mongol invasion will be dealt with is never explained.]]
** Mushu's attempts to break Mulan's marriage end with this because [[spoiler:although they do get married, Shang decides to unite his ancestors' side to Mulan's, which prevents Mushu from losing his spot as the guardian of the family. Although, there's no indication that Shang would've done so anyway had Mulan not told him about Mushu.]]
** The whole plotline about needing an arranged marriage to unite the two kingdoms [[spoiler: is discarded entirely, and how the Mongol invasion will be dealt with is never explained.]]
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* AllForNothing:
** Mushu's attemptsAbortedArc: Early on, the film establishes that the Mongolian army is mobilizing with the threat of invading China, necessitating the alliance with Qui Gon and the princesses' arranged marriage. [[spoiler:While Mushu is able to prevent the princesses and Mulan herself from going through with the wedding, the issue of the important alliance between the kingdoms is discarded entirely, and the looming threat of the Mongol forces is left unresolved and goes completely unmentioned in the ending.]]
* AllForNothing: Mushu spends much of the film attempting to break Mulan's marriageend with this because [[spoiler:although to avoid losing her - and his own position of her guardian - to Shang's ancestors. [[spoiler:His efforts to prevent the wedding ultimately prove unnecessary when, after they do get married, wed, Shang decides to unite his ancestors' side to Mulan's, which prevents Mushu from losing his spot as the guardian of the family.position. Although, there's no indication that Shang would've done so anyway had Mulan not told him about Mushu.]]
** The whole plotline about needing an arranged marriage to unite the two kingdoms [[spoiler: is discarded entirely, and how the Mongol invasion will be dealt with is never explained.]]
** Mushu's attempts
* AllForNothing: Mushu spends much of the film attempting to break Mulan's marriage
** The whole plotline about needing an arranged marriage to unite the two kingdoms [[spoiler: is discarded entirely, and how the Mongol invasion will be dealt with is never explained.
* GreaterScopeVillain: Though they never appear in person, the looming threat of Mongolian forces invading China is what prompts the Emperor to arrange his daughters' marriages, and is the reason the heroes have to escort the princesses to Qui Gong.
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* InstantFanclub: Mulan's girl followers.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Mushu sabotages Mulan's relationship with Shang... because if she marries him, he'll lose his job. To be fair, Mulan had only really known Shang personally for a month, (they'd met at least a few weeks before, but it was a soldier-commander relationship, and she was lying about her identity at the time) and them turning out to be very different from each other as they were planning their wedding raised more then a few alarm bells, but he had zero problems with any of this until he realized what it all meant for him personally.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Mushu sabotages Mulan's relationship with Shang... because if she marries him, he'll lose his job. To be fair, Mulan had only really known Shang personally for a month, (they'd met at least a few weeks before, but it was a soldier-commander relationship, and she was lying about her identity at the time) and them turning out to be very different from each other as they were planning their wedding raised more then a few alarm bells, but he had zero problems with any of this until he realized what it all meant for him personally.
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* InstantFanclub: Mulan's girl followers.
After her heroics in the original film, the little girls in the village now all idolize Mulan.
*ItsAllAboutMe: ItsAllAboutMe:
** Mushu sabotages Mulan's relationship with Shang... because if she marries him, he'll lose his job. To be fair, Mulan had only really known Shang personally for a month, (they'd met at least a few weeks before, but it was a soldier-commander relationship, and she was lying about her identity at the time) and them turning out to be very different from each other as they were planning their wedding raised more then a few alarm bells, but he had zero problems with any of this until he realized what it all meant for him personally.
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** Mushu sabotages Mulan's relationship with Shang... because if she marries him, he'll lose his job. To be fair, Mulan had only really known Shang personally for a month, (they'd met at least a few weeks before, but it was a soldier-commander relationship, and she was lying about her identity at the time) and them turning out to be very different from each other as they were planning their wedding raised more then a few alarm bells, but he had zero problems with any of this until he realized what it all meant for him personally.
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* PlotIrrelevantVillain: The film's sole major action scene occurs when the heroes are attacked by a gang of bandits near the middle of the film. These characters are not named, they have no known connection to [[GreaterScopeVillain the unseen Mongolian army that are driving the plot]], and they're never seen again afterwards, and the scene's only contribution to the story is that [[spoiler:Shang falls off a bridge during the fight, and is temporarily presumed dead.]]
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* AllForNothing: Mushu's attempts to break Mulan's marriage end with this because [[spoiler:although they do get married, Shang decides to unite his ancestors' side to Mulan's, which prevents Mushu from losing his spot as the guardian of the family. Although, there's no indication that Shang would've done so anyway had Mulan not told him about Mushu.]]
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* AllForNothing: AllForNothing:
** Mushu's attempts to break Mulan's marriage end with this because [[spoiler:although they do get married, Shang decides to unite his ancestors' side to Mulan's, which prevents Mushu from losing his spot as the guardian of the family. Although, there's no indication that Shang would've done so anyway had Mulan not told him about Mushu.]]
** The whole plotline about needing an arranged marriage to unite the two kingdoms [[spoiler: is discarded entirely, and how the Mongol invasion will be dealt with is never explained.]]
** Mushu's attempts to break Mulan's marriage end with this because [[spoiler:although they do get married, Shang decides to unite his ancestors' side to Mulan's, which prevents Mushu from losing his spot as the guardian of the family. Although, there's no indication that Shang would've done so anyway had Mulan not told him about Mushu.]]
** The whole plotline about needing an arranged marriage to unite the two kingdoms [[spoiler: is discarded entirely, and how the Mongol invasion will be dealt with is never explained.]]
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Not examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome but just character reactions. They were discussed here
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: No, you cannot change firmly entrenched views about women held by an entire nation for an untold amount of time, especially not in a month. All of the allies Mulan made in the first movie, while polite to Mulan specifically, still are misogynistic towards women as a whole.
** The Emperor has made no major reforms after publically honoring Mulan, and is using his own daughters as bargaining chips to form an alliance. In real life, change takes time.
** Shang knows that most women are being treated unfairly, but doesn't care because it doesn't affect him, Mulan, or his relationship with her.
** Yao, Ling, and Chien Po's wife fantasies have gotten even ''worse'' in the time skip, as shown by what they told the matchmaker they wanted in a bride, and during the song Ling steals chopsticks from an innocent girl advertising a shop and sticks up up his nose because she assumed her waving at him ''had'' to be a romantic gesture (she wanted to promote her shop, small wonder she punched him right after that). They treat the princesses decently for the first and only three days of their relationship before getting married (Ling following Ting-Ting around bothering her after she's made it clear she's not interested and wants to honor her engagement notwithstanding)
** The only person who is seen improving is the matchmaker, as she throws the gang of three out in disgust when she hears their obnoxious demands, ostensibly wanting to protect any girl from having to deal with them as husbands.
** The Emperor has made no major reforms after publically honoring Mulan, and is using his own daughters as bargaining chips to form an alliance. In real life, change takes time.
** Shang knows that most women are being treated unfairly, but doesn't care because it doesn't affect him, Mulan, or his relationship with her.
** Yao, Ling, and Chien Po's wife fantasies have gotten even ''worse'' in the time skip, as shown by what they told the matchmaker they wanted in a bride, and during the song Ling steals chopsticks from an innocent girl advertising a shop and sticks up up his nose because she assumed her waving at him ''had'' to be a romantic gesture (she wanted to promote her shop, small wonder she punched him right after that). They treat the princesses decently for the first and only three days of their relationship before getting married (Ling following Ting-Ting around bothering her after she's made it clear she's not interested and wants to honor her engagement notwithstanding)
** The only person who is seen improving is the matchmaker, as she throws the gang of three out in disgust when she hears their obnoxious demands, ostensibly wanting to protect any girl from having to deal with them as husbands.
