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Correction on the last one: Err I don\'t think that really applies to this trope. He was trying to turn Damian against Batman and get him to join him. Obviously that didn\'t happen.
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Err I think think that really was the case. He was trying to turn Damian against Batman and get him to join him. Obviously that didn\'t happen.
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* BackToBackBadasses: Bruce, in a mech suit, and Alfred do this when the [[spoiler: Talons invade Wayne Manor.]]
* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged, [[spoiler: Talon slays the Court, beats Batman to a pulp and forces Robin to kill him (sort of), but he does die so there's that.]]
* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged, [[spoiler: Talon slays the Court, beats Batman to a pulp and forces Robin to kill him (sort of), but he does die so there's that.]]
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* BackToBackBadasses: Two examples both involving [[spoiler: the Talons invading Wanye Manor]]
** Batman and Nightwing when the Talons first arrive.
** Bruce, in a mech suit, and Alfred do this when the [[spoiler: Talons invadeWayne Manor.]]
* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged, [[spoiler: Talon slaysthe Court, beats Batman to a pulp and forces Robin to kill him (sort of), but he does die so there's that.Batcave.]]
** Batman and Nightwing when the Talons first arrive.
** Bruce, in a mech suit, and Alfred do this when the [[spoiler: Talons invade
* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged, [[spoiler: Talon slays
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Court of Owls is destroyed and Talon is beaten. But the experience really shakes Damian and makes him question where he truly belongs. He leaves Bruce to find his way in life, but Bruce makes it clear he does love him and states he'll likely return to him. The final shot of the movie is Damien taking Bruce's advice to go to Tibet and train with the monks that helped Bruce.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Court of Owls is destroyed and Talon is beaten. But the experience really shakes Damian and makes him question where he truly belongs. He leaves Bruce to find his way in life, but Bruce makes it clear he does love him and states he'll likely return to him. The final shot of the movie is Damien taking Bruce's advice to go to Tibet and train with the monks that helped Bruce.]]
* PoorCommunicationKills: Alot of the movies problem could've been avoided at the start if [[spoiler: Damian had bothered to tell Bruce someone killed the Dollmaker instead of lashing out at him. Heck Bruce, being as observant as he is, could've figure it out easily himself after seeing there wasn't any blood on Damian's knife and the way Dollmaker was killed.]]
* TheUnfought: [[spoiler: Batman never really takes on the Court of Owls. He only meets them twice in the film Once as Bruce Wayne and another as Batman to which he winds up drugged and being rescued by Alfred and Nightwing. By the time he recovers, Talon pretty much killed them for him.]]
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** Bruce is offered this by the Count of Owls since he one of the most influential people within the city. Naturally Bruce turns it down.
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** Bruce is offered this by the Count of Owls since he one of the most influential people within the city. Naturally Bruce turns plays dumb and asks to think it down.over (using the distraction to put a tracker in the mask). But obviously wasn't going to consider their offer.
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* WeCanRuleTogether:WeCanRuleTogether: ''Three times'' in the movie.
** Bruce is offered this by the Count of Owls since he one of the most influential people within the city. Naturally Bruce turns it down.
** Bruce is offered this by the Count of Owls since he one of the most influential people within the city. Naturally Bruce turns it down.
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* BattleButler: Alfred picks up a shotgun for the final battle.
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** Actually [[spoiler: Talon's main goal was to get Damian to join him and kill Batman himself. He failed on that front as, though Damian was tempted to, he ultimately stayed loyal to his father. Talon took his own life when he saw that there was no way of convincing Damian otherwise.]]
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* BackToBackBadasses: Bruce, in a mech suit, and Alfred do this when the [[spoiler: Talons invade Wayne Manor.]]
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** Actually [[spoiler: Talon's main goal was to get Damian to join him and kill Batman himself. He failed on that front as, though Damian was tempted to, he ultimately stay loyal to his father. Talon took his own life when he saw that there was no way of convincing Damian otherwise.]]
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** Actually [[spoiler: Talon's main goal was to get Damian to join him and kill Batman himself. He failed on that front as, though Damian was tempted to, he ultimately stay stayed loyal to his father. Talon took his own life when he saw that there was no way of convincing Damian otherwise.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Court of Owls is destroyed and Talon is be beaten. But the experience really shakes Damian and makes him question where he truly belongs. He leaves Bruce to find his way in life, but Bruce makes it clear he does love him and states he'll likely return to him. The final shot of the movie is Damien taking Bruce's advice to go to Tibet and train with the monks that helped Bruce.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Court of Owls is destroyed and Talon is be beaten. But the experience really shakes Damian and makes him question where he truly belongs. He leaves Bruce to find his way in life, but Bruce makes it clear he does love him and states he'll likely return to him. The final shot of the movie is Damien taking Bruce's advice to go to Tibet and train with the monks that helped Bruce.]]
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** Actually [[spoiler: Talon's main goal was to get Damian to join him and kill Batman himself. He failed on that front as, though Damian was tempted to, he ultimately stay loyal to his father. Talon took his own life when he saw that there was no way of convincing Damian otherwise.]]
* BrickJoke: [[spoiler: Remember Damian wanting to drive the Batmobile at the end of "Son of Batman"? Take a guess how this movie opens.]]
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Court of Owls is destroyed and Talon is be beaten. But the experience really shakes Damian and makes him question where he truly belongs. He leaves Bruce to find his way in life, but Bruce makes it clear he does love him and states he'll likely return to him. The final shot of the movie is Damien taking Bruce's advice to go to Tibet and train with the monks that helped Bruce.]]
* BrickJoke: [[spoiler: Remember Damian wanting to drive the Batmobile at the end of "Son of Batman"? Take a guess how this movie opens.]]
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Court of Owls is destroyed and Talon is be beaten. But the experience really shakes Damian and makes him question where he truly belongs. He leaves Bruce to find his way in life, but Bruce makes it clear he does love him and states he'll likely return to him. The final shot of the movie is Damien taking Bruce's advice to go to Tibet and train with the monks that helped Bruce.]]
* NearVillainVictory: Indeed Talon ''really'' comes close in the climax. [[spoiler: He raids Wayne Manor with a batch of Talons, wear down both Batman and Nightwing, invades the Batcave, incapacitates Nightwing and got in a lethal blow on Bruce in their fight. He was on the verge of finishing him off if Damian hadn't jumped in for the rescue.]]
* SelfDisposingVillain: After Damian beats him and have him at knife point, [[spoiler: Talon takes his own life by forcefully thrusting it into his neck.]]
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** Talon in turn offers it to Damian, but by this point he's soured their relationship and Damian turns him town.
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** Talon in turn offers it to Damian, but by this point he's soured their relationship and Damian turns him town.down.
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* AdaptationalWimp: Talons can now only survive a very short time out of stasis, while in the comics they were completely immortal. Otherwise they are just as lethal and durable as they ever were.
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* AdaptationalWimp: Talons can now only survive a very short time out of stasis, while in the comics they were completely immortal. Otherwise They have also become mindless zombies, while in the comics they are just as lethal had distinct personalities and durable as they ever were.the ability to speak.
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* TheCameo: An image of the Joker appears for a brief moment on the Bat-computer next to Dollmaker.
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* AlienBlood/BloodlessCarnage: The Talons don't bleed and when destroyed turn into black mush.
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* AlienBlood/BloodlessCarnage: The Talons don't bleed and when destroyed turn into black mush.
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* BloodierAndGorier: Continuing the tread of recent DC Animated movies.
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* ConservationOfNinjutsu: Three Talons damn near kill Batman in their first encounter. Dozens of them do far worse in the climax.
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* ConservationOfNinjutsu: Three Talons damn near kill Batman in their first encounter. Dozens of them do fare far worse in the climax.
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* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged, [[spoiler: Talon slays the Court, beats Batman to a pulp and forces Robin to kill him (sort of), but he does die so there's that.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: Talon seems to have traits of William Cobb, Lincoln March, and Calvin Rose from the comics, but only tiny bits and pieces, to the point that it's almost InNameOnly
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* CompositeCharacter: Talon seems to have traits of William Cobb, Lincoln March, and Calvin Rose from the comics, but only tiny bits and pieces, to the point that it's almost InNameOnlyInNameOnly.
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* AllJustADream: The maze sequence in the comic has been changed to a hallucination in this adaptation.
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* AbusiveParents: Talon's alcoholic father beat him as a child (in the shown example it was because Talon bungled a robbery). [[spoiler: It's implied that Talon anonymously called the police and his father was killed in the ensuing shoot-out.]]
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* AbusiveParents: Talon's alcoholic father beat him as a child (in the shown example it was because Talon bungled a robbery). [[spoiler: It's implied that Talon anonymously called the police sometime afterwards and his father was killed in the ensuing shoot-out.]] ]]
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* AbusiveParents: Talon's alcoholic father beat him as a child (in the shown example it was because Talon bungled a robbery).
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* AbusiveParents: Talon's alcoholic father beat him as a child (in the shown example it was because Talon bungled a robbery). [[spoiler: It's implied that Talon anonymously called the police and his father was killed in the ensuing shoot-out.]]
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* AbusiveParents: Talon's alcoholic father beat him as a child (in the shown example it was because Talon bungled a robbery).
* AdaptationDistillation: It's a very, ''very'' loose adaptation of the comic ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', but only a few basic parts are kept, many parts are removed, many others changed, and the added drama of the strained relationship between Robin and Batman.
* AdaptationDistillation: It's a very, ''very'' loose adaptation of the comic ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', but only a few basic parts are kept, many parts are removed, many others changed, and the added drama of the strained relationship between Robin and Batman.
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* AdaptationalWimp: Talons can now only survive a very short time out of stasis. In the comics they were completely immortal.
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* AdaptationalWimp: Talons can now only survive a very short time out of stasis. In stasis, while in the comics they were completely immortal.immortal. Otherwise they are just as lethal and durable as they ever were.
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!!Tropes associated with ''Batman vs. Robin'':
* AncientConspiracy: The Court Of Owls.
* AncientConspiracy: The Court Of Owls.
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* AbsoluteCleavage: Samantha is wearing such a dress when first introduced, as is one member of the Court of Owls.
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* ChekhovsGun: The Grandmaster scolds a subordinate for not properly monitoring one of the Talons' tanks, saying that [[spoiler:too low a temperature]] would be the end of it. In the climax, [[spoiler:Alfred alters the cave environmental systems to flash-freeze the remaining Talons]].
* ConservationOfNinjutsu: Three Talons damn near kill Batman in their first encounter. Dozens of them do far worse in the climax.
* ConservationOfNinjutsu: Three Talons damn near kill Batman in their first encounter. Dozens of them do far worse in the climax.
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* SamusIsAGirl: The Court Grandmaster sounds male, but is actually [[spoiler:Samantha]].
* SelfMadeOrphan: Talon sold his abusive father out to the police, who was then gunned down in the resulting shootout.
* TheUndead: The Talons are members of the Court of Owls which grants them an impressive healing factor and virtual immortality at the cost of having to die in a special ritual. The process isn't quite perfected, though, so they don't last long outside of special storage tanks.
* WeCanRuleTogether:
** [[spoiler:Samantha]] offers this to Talon, suggesting that her family's influence would allow him to rise above his station. He would have accepted, [[spoiler:but when it came between choosing between her and Damian, he chose the latter and wiped out the Court]].
** Talon in turn offers it to Damian, but by this point he's soured their relationship and Damian turns him town.
* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Batman has no problem blowing up the Talons after figuring out they aren't normal humans.
* SelfMadeOrphan: Talon sold his abusive father out to the police, who was then gunned down in the resulting shootout.
* TheUndead: The Talons are members of the Court of Owls which grants them an impressive healing factor and virtual immortality at the cost of having to die in a special ritual. The process isn't quite perfected, though, so they don't last long outside of special storage tanks.
* WeCanRuleTogether:
** [[spoiler:Samantha]] offers this to Talon, suggesting that her family's influence would allow him to rise above his station. He would have accepted, [[spoiler:but when it came between choosing between her and Damian, he chose the latter and wiped out the Court]].
** Talon in turn offers it to Damian, but by this point he's soured their relationship and Damian turns him town.
* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Batman has no problem blowing up the Talons after figuring out they aren't normal humans.
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A 2014 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line, ''Batman vs. Robin'' is a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David [=McCallum=] reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne, and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
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A 2014 2015 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line, ''Batman vs. Robin'' is a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'' and a sequel to ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David [=McCallum=] reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne, and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
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* CastingGag: Jeremy Sisto, who voiced Batman in ''[[ComicBook/DCTheNewFrontier Justice League: The New Frontier]]'', as Talon.
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Not long [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman after becoming Robin,]] Damian Wayne and his father, Franchise/{{Batman}}, investigate a crime scene, but while there, Robin encounters a mysterious figure, Talon. Talon proceedes to lead Damian Wayne who leads him on a life-altering course through the depths of Gotham's secret society, known as The Court of Owls, which in turn leads to a fight battle father and son.
A 2014 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line, it's a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David McCallum reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; Legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne; and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
A 2014 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line, it's a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David McCallum reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; Legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne; and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
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Not long [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman after becoming Robin,]] Robin]], Damian Wayne and his father, Franchise/{{Batman}}, investigate a crime scene, but while there, Robin encounters a mysterious figure, Talon. Talon proceedes proceeds to lead Damian Wayne who leads him on a life-altering course through the depths of Gotham's secret society, known as The Court of Owls, which in turn leads to a fight battle between father and son.
A 2014 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line,it's ''Batman vs. Robin'' is a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David McCallum [=McCallum=] reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; Legandary legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne; Wayne, and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
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* RoleReprisal: Creator/KevinConroy reprises his [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE30PerchanceToDream "Perchance to Dream"]] and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' role as Thomas Wayne.Wayne.
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Not long [[WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman after becoming Robin,]] Damian Wayne and his father, Franchise/{{Batman}}, investigate a crime scene, but while there, Robin encounters a mysterious figure, Talon. Talon proceedes to lead Damian Wayne who leads him on a life-altering course through the depths of Gotham's secret society, known as The Court of Owls, which in turn leads to a fight battle father and son.
A 2014 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line, it's a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David McCallum reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; Legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne; and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
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* AnimatedAdaptation: A loose one of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls''.
* RoleReprisal: Creator/KevinConroy reprises his [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE30PerchanceToDream "Perchance to Dream"]] and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' role as Thomas Wayne.
A 2014 movie in the WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies line, it's a loose adaptation of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', Voice actors include Jason O'Mara, Stuart Allen, Creator/SeanMaher, and David McCallum reprising their respective roles from ''WesternAnimation/SonOfBatman'' as Batman, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, and Alfred; Jeremy Sisto (''Series/LawAndOrder'') as Talon; Legandary Batman voice Creator/KevinConroy (''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') as Thomas Wayne; and Music/WeirdAlYankovic as the Dollmaker.
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* AnimatedAdaptation: A loose one of ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls''.
* RoleReprisal: Creator/KevinConroy reprises his [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE30PerchanceToDream "Perchance to Dream"]] and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' role as Thomas Wayne.
