History WellIntentionedExtremist / AnimeAndManga

11th Feb '16 9:05:37 PM DarkHunter
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* ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' offer us a fair share of these guys: ** Bodol Zer (Dolza in ''Robotech''), commander of the Zentraedi, attacked Earth with a devastating PlanetaryBombardment and tried to destroy the troops that were previously fighting against Mankind when he was notified said troops were negotiating a ceasefire. His reasons change with the franchise, but they're good anyway: in ''Macross'' [[Anime/Macross7 one of the sequels]] shows that the frontine troops' actions looked suspiciously like the result of [[EldritchAbomination Protodeviln]] contamination]], and given the last time that happened the galaxy-spanning empire that had created the Zentraedi self-destructed to seal them away destroying the planet and kill everyone was the only intelligent thing to do; in ''Robotech'' it's just that ''one million warships with incredible firepower'' are negotiating a ceasefire without informing him, and Dolza's reaction to the apparent desertion of such a force was to strike first before it could disperd and do god knows what; ** only in ''Robotech'', the current Robotech Masters. Successors to terrible tyrants, they're now trying to save their civilization by recovering the last known supply of [[MacGuffin Protoculture]], located on Earth, before the Invid or the Disciples of Zor come, and are genuinely puzzled by the Human hostility (to be fair, the high command of Earth wanted to negotiate, but before they could actually try and talk a trigger-happy officer fired nukes at them). Once the fighting started, however, they showed no compulsion against killing thousands of Humans nor willingness to explain their actions, and when they saw the Invid had found out of the Protoculture they grew desperate enough to demand the complete evacuation of Earth on pain of extermination and use their own civilians as brainwashed infantry;
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* ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' offer us a fair share of these guys: ** : Bodol Zer (Dolza in ''Robotech''), Zer, commander of the Zentraedi, attacked Earth with a devastating PlanetaryBombardment OrbitalBombardment and tried to destroy the troops that were previously fighting against Mankind when he was notified said troops were negotiating a ceasefire. His reasons change with aren't clearly stated in the franchise, but they're good anyway: in ''Macross'' [[Anime/Macross7 original series, but [[Anime/{{Macross7}} one of the sequels]] shows that the frontine frontline troops' actions looked suspiciously like the result of a [[EldritchAbomination Protodeviln]] contamination]], awakening, and given that the last time that happened the galaxy-spanning empire that had created the Zentraedi self-destructed to seal them away away, destroying the planet and kill killing everyone involved was the only intelligent thing to do; in ''Robotech'' do. * ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'': ** This series offers a different view for Dolza's actions: it's just that ''one million warships with incredible firepower'' are negotiating a ceasefire without informing him, and Dolza's reaction to the apparent desertion of such a force was to strike first before it could disperd disperse and do god knows what; what. ** only in ''Robotech'', the The current Robotech Masters. Successors to terrible tyrants, they're now trying to save their civilization by recovering the last known supply of [[MacGuffin Protoculture]], located on Earth, before the Invid or the Disciples of Zor come, and are genuinely puzzled by the Human hostility (to be fair, the high command of Earth wanted to negotiate, but before they could actually try and talk a trigger-happy officer fired nukes at them). Once the fighting started, however, they showed no compulsion against killing thousands of Humans nor willingness to explain their actions, and when they saw the Invid had found out of the Protoculture they grew desperate enough to demand the complete evacuation of Earth on pain of extermination and use their own civilians as brainwashed infantry;
26th Jan '16 10:15:15 AM Willbyr
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* While she was never a villain, Ratchet Altair from the fifth SakuraWars game displayed an example of this trope in TheMovie. [[spoiler: When Flower Division fighting a BrainwashedAndCrazy Orihime, she was willing to kill her just so that she end this "meaningless waste of time".]]
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* While she was never a villain, Ratchet Altair from the fifth SakuraWars ''VideoGame/SakuraWars'' game displayed an example of this trope in TheMovie. [[spoiler: When Flower Division fighting a BrainwashedAndCrazy Orihime, she was willing to kill her just so that she end this "meaningless waste of time".]]
4th Nov '15 12:35:04 PM FF32
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** Kaito probably qualifies in the first season. He doesn't particularly like what he does to the people who he takes Numbers from, but he does it in order to heal his younger brother. Even Yuma respects him for this, despite the fact that Kaito never lets Yuma forget that he is on his "hit list". [[spoiler: To make this worse, what Kaito was doing in the first season wasn't helping Haruto at all; it was a lie used by [[BigBad Dr. Faker]], who was being manipulated by [[BiggerBad Barian]] in order to destroy the Astral World]].
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** Kaito probably qualifies in the first season. He doesn't particularly like what he does to the people who he takes Numbers from, but he does it in order to heal his younger brother. Even Yuma respects him for this, despite the fact that Kaito never lets Yuma forget that he is on his "hit list". [[spoiler: To make this worse, what Kaito was doing in the first season wasn't helping Haruto at all; it was a lie used by [[BigBad Dr. Faker]], who was being manipulated by [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain Barian]] in order to destroy the Astral World]].
27th Oct '15 9:27:15 AM Willbyr
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* ''{{Akumetsu}}'': ''ThePunisher'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Comicbook/VForVendetta'' [[RecycledINSPACE In JAPAN!]] is an apt description of the series.
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* ''{{Akumetsu}}'': ''ThePunisher'' ''Manga/{{Akumetsu}}'': ''ComicBook/ThePunisher'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Comicbook/VForVendetta'' [[RecycledINSPACE In JAPAN!]] is an apt description of the series.
6th Oct '15 8:48:48 PM harostar
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** As ''Robotech'' never did anything halfway, we get the Invid. Sure, they're ruthless and paranoid and feel nobody else is worth of Protoculture, but they became like that after the Masters devastated their homeworld so they wouldn't have to share the secrets of Protoculture, and they're the only ones who knows about [[spoiler: the Haydonites planning to destroy the Flower of Life, Protoculture-based technology and all races using them]]. Also, [[PragmaticVillain the half of the Invid race on Earth has the habit of leaving Humans alone as long as they don't have the ability to harm them]], and even repaired the damage done by the Zentraedi.
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** As ''Robotech'' never did anything halfway, we get the Invid. Sure, they're ruthless and paranoid and feel nobody else is worth of Protoculture, but they became like that after the Masters devastated their homeworld so they wouldn't have to share the secrets of Protoculture, and they're the only ones who knows about [[spoiler: the Haydonites planning to destroy the Flower of Life, Protoculture-based technology and all races using them]]. Also, [[PragmaticVillain the half of the Invid race on Earth has the habit of leaving Humans alone as long as they don't have the ability to harm them]], and even repaired the damage done by the Zentraedi.Zentraedi. * In ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'', many Ghoul Investigators fall into this sort of thinking. While their actions might not be appreciated by the average person, they believe it to be necessary for the greater good. ** Koutarou Amon begins as one, firmly believing that ''anything'' is justified in the pursuit of a better world. This includes digging around a grave site, and killing child Ghouls without remorse. After meeting Kaneki, though, he begins to question his extremist view of the world and undergoes CharacterDevelopment in his quest to learn more about his WorthyOpponent. ** In the {{Prequel}}, ''Jack'', Latern turns out to be one. [[spoiler: She's intensely jealous of the happy, peaceful lives that humans lead. Because she loves human society so much, she goes about brutally killing criminals and delinquents as punishment for disrupting society's harmony and order. This includes killing Taishi's friends, because they caused trouble at school and [[EvilIsPetty their motorcycles were loud]] and annoyed her]]. Taishi immediately points out the hypocrisy of this, because someone that would kill people is even ''worse''.
18th Sep '15 12:37:20 AM Adept
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* Lucif from ''VenusVersusVirus'' sought the True World, which is some kind of {{Utopia}} without suffering.
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* Lucif from ''VenusVersusVirus'' ''Manga/VenusVersusVirus'' sought the True World, which is some kind of {{Utopia}} without suffering.
12th Sep '15 11:55:55 PM nombretomado
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* The eponymous ''{{Noein}}'' is suffering from grief from losing the love of his life, Haruka. He then searches for other dimensions where she might have survived, but finds that she's always destined to the same fate in every universe. His intention is then to converge all universes to stop all suffering, erase all existence and start it anew.
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* The eponymous ''{{Noein}}'' ''{{Anime/Noein}}'' is suffering from grief from losing the love of his life, Haruka. He then searches for other dimensions where she might have survived, but finds that she's always destined to the same fate in every universe. His intention is then to converge all universes to stop all suffering, erase all existence and start it anew.
7th Sep '15 12:20:07 AM Gamermaster
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** Rossiu from the same arc of the same series qualifies, as he [[spoiler:betrays his friend Simon by placing the blame for the Anti-Spiral attacks on him, sets him up in a [[KangarooCourt phony trial]], and sentences him to death so he can stop the riots. He realizes that the [[WrongGenreSavvy only way to save any part of humanity]] is to let a majority of them die. [[IDidWhatIHadToDo There's no other option, he tells himself]]. After Simon escapes custody and saves the day (and the world), Rossiu remembers what genre he's living in and decides to [[RedemptionEqualsDeath take his own life]], but Simon forgives him and shows him the light. And by "the light", I mean [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan a clenched fist moving slightly below the speed of sound]] followed by a pep-talk. Gotta love that little guy.]] Ironically, he actually commented on this ''himself'' a while earlier:
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** Rossiu from the same arc of the same series qualifies, as he [[spoiler:betrays his friend Simon by placing the blame for the Anti-Spiral attacks on him, sets him up in a [[KangarooCourt phony trial]], and sentences him to death so he can stop the riots. He realizes that the [[WrongGenreSavvy only way to save any part of humanity]] is to let a majority of them die. [[IDidWhatIHadToDo There's no other option, he tells himself]]. After Simon escapes custody and saves the day (and the world), Rossiu remembers what genre he's living in and decides to [[RedemptionEqualsDeath [[DrivenToSuicide take his own life]], but Simon forgives him and shows him the light. And by "the light", I we mean [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan a clenched fist moving slightly below the speed of sound]] followed by a pep-talk. Gotta love that little guy.]] Ironically, he actually commented on this ''himself'' a while earlier:

** From ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'', the TSAB high council, who are responsible for [[spoiler: creating Scaglietti and letting him build combat cyborgs and artificial mages for them]] to ensure the safety of the TSAB controlled worlds.
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** From ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'', ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', the TSAB high council, who are responsible for [[spoiler: creating Scaglietti and letting him build combat cyborgs and artificial mages for them]] to ensure the safety of the TSAB controlled worlds.
24th Aug '15 10:15:12 AM Willbyr
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* Hitomi in ''CodeBreaker''. He just wants recognition for the scores of anonymous, mostly teenaged Code: Breakers who died in the line of duty [[spoiler:by killing 50,000 people and the prime minister of Japan, whose estranged son is also a Code: Breaker. His goal is spat back in his face by his own protégé, who reminds him that all Code: Breakers are just superpowered murderers put to good use and that their anonymity is for the best.]]
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* Hitomi in ''CodeBreaker''.''Manga/CodeBreaker''. He just wants recognition for the scores of anonymous, mostly teenaged Code: Breakers who died in the line of duty [[spoiler:by killing 50,000 people and the prime minister of Japan, whose estranged son is also a Code: Breaker. His goal is spat back in his face by his own protégé, who reminds him that all Code: Breakers are just superpowered murderers put to good use and that their anonymity is for the best.]]
8th Aug '15 8:40:51 PM wootzits
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** [[spoiler: Old Man Zangetsu]] is revealed to be this in the final arc. [[spoiler: It turns out that he's actually a personification of Ichigo's Quincy powers, taking the image of Yhwach as he appeared 1000 years prior, and had been trying to slow Ichigo's potential growth as a Soul Reaper and take his Hollow/Zanpakuto's place as his core powers. Why would he do this? To protect Ichigo from the inevitable fights and dangers he would face if he became a Soul Reaper. And for additional points, he'd originally intended to ''kill'' Ichigo if he were to become a Soul Reaper. Thank goodness he changed his mind.]] * An interesting case is ''PrincessMononoke'', as both sides of the conflict are led by {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s. The central plot of the film is Ashitaka's attempt to stop the unnecessary fighting.
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** [[spoiler: Old [[spoiler:Old Man Zangetsu]] is revealed to be this in the final arc. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It turns out that he's actually a personification of Ichigo's Quincy powers, taking the image of Yhwach as he appeared 1000 years prior, and had been trying to slow Ichigo's potential growth as a Soul Reaper and take his Hollow/Zanpakuto's place as his core powers. Why would he do this? To protect Ichigo from the inevitable fights and dangers he would face if he became a Soul Reaper. And for additional points, he'd originally intended to ''kill'' Ichigo if he were to become a Soul Reaper. Thank goodness he changed his mind.]] * An interesting case is ''PrincessMononoke'', ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'', as both sides of the conflict are led by {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s. The central plot of the film is Ashitaka's attempt to stop the unnecessary fighting.

%%* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Sailor Galaxia started out like this, at least in the anime. * In the ''VisionOfEscaflowne'' anime, Emperor Dornkirk and [[TheDragon Folken]] sought an {{Instrumentality}} where there would be no war or fighting, even if it involved [[KickTheDog kicking a few puppies]] along the way.
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%%* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': ''Manga/SailorMoon'': Sailor Galaxia started out like this, at least in the anime. * In the ''VisionOfEscaflowne'' ''Anime/TheVisionOfEscaflowne'' anime, Emperor Dornkirk and [[TheDragon Folken]] sought an {{Instrumentality}} where there would be no war or fighting, even if it involved [[KickTheDog kicking a few puppies]] along the way.
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