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Its LighterAndSofter counterpart, "What if Noelle Lost Her Way?", can be watched [[https://youtu.be/D1Y1SXsoBhA here]].
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Its LighterAndSofter counterpart, "What if Noelle Lost Her Way?", which supposedly takes place during a normal route, can be watched [[https://youtu.be/D1Y1SXsoBhA here]].
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* AndIMustScream: [[spoiler:As the game gives the option on whether or not to tell Susie the truth on what happened in the Dark World with Noelle, the options are "Nothing"... and "It wasn't me It wasn't me It wasn't me It wasn't me", with the second dialogue option implying Kris is ''desperately'' trying to tell Susie the truth of their situation with the player SOUL, only for the player to simply tell Susie "Nothing", with Kris unable to do anything.]]
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school to look for Noelle, Kris going to Castle Town (inevitably having to meet [[CheerfulChild Lancer]] or [[TheGadfly Queen] again) and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school to look for Noelle, Kris going to Castle Town (inevitably having to meet [[CheerfulChild Lancer]] or [[TheGadfly Queen] Queen]] again) and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Much like in ''Lost Her Way'', Kris can't go to Castle Town since the path to the school is blocked off. [[spoiler:This is to Susie's detriment, as [[WhiteMage Ralsei]] being absent means that the injuries she sustains to her arms actually stay.]]
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Much like in ''Lost Her Way'', Kris can't go to Castle Town and meet any of the Darkners since the path to the school is blocked off. [[spoiler:This is to Susie's detriment, as [[WhiteMage Ralsei]] being absent means that the injuries she sustains to her arms actually stay.]]
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school, Kris going to Castle Town (inevitably having to meet [[CheerfulChild Lancer]] again) and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school, school to look for Noelle, Kris going to Castle Town (inevitably having to meet [[CheerfulChild Lancer]] or [[TheGadfly Queen] again) and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:As in ''Lost Her Way'', Rudolph has passed on. Unlike ''Lost Her Way'' however, it's implied that Noelle put [[MercyKill him out of his misery]] instead of letting him pass away from his illness.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: DeathByAdaptation:
** [[spoiler:Downplayed in the case of Berdly. It's left up to interpretation in the [=SnowGrave=] route whether or not Berdly is actually dead or just comatose, though it does more to imply that he's actually dead. Here, it's made clear that Berdly was killed (to the point that Noelle's LV ''increased'') and that his body [[NoBodyLeftBehind turned to dust]].]]
** [[spoiler:As in ''Lost Her Way'', Rudolph has passed on. Unlike ''Lost Her Way'' however, it's implied that Noelle put [[MercyKill him out of his misery]] instead of letting him pass away from his illness.]]
** [[spoiler:Downplayed in the case of Berdly. It's left up to interpretation in the [=SnowGrave=] route whether or not Berdly is actually dead or just comatose, though it does more to imply that he's actually dead. Here, it's made clear that Berdly was killed (to the point that Noelle's LV ''increased'') and that his body [[NoBodyLeftBehind turned to dust]].]]
** [[spoiler:As in ''Lost Her Way'', Rudolph has passed on. Unlike ''Lost Her Way'' however, it's implied that Noelle put [[MercyKill him out of his misery]] instead of letting him pass away from his illness.]]
* ItGetsEasier: [[spoiler:[[KarmaMeter LV and EXP]] come back into play here, with Noelle's killing of Berdly helping to increase it. This results in Noelle being willing to ''[[{{Patricide}} kill Rudy]]'' (albeit a MercyKill, as Rudy was described to be in horrific pain), and not crying about it afterwards much to her own horror.]]
->'''[[spoiler:Noelle]]''': "What is wrong with me...?"
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Much like in ''Lost Her Way'', Kris can't go to Castle Town since the path to the school is blocked off. [[spoiler:This is to Susie's detriment, as [[WhiteMage Ralsei]] being absent means that the injuries she sustains to her arms actually stay.]]
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school, Kris going to Castle Town and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school, Kris going to Castle Town (inevitably having to meet [[CheerfulChild Lancer]] again) and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* ShooOutTheClowns: Thanks to Toriel and her search party being at the school, Kris going to Castle Town and asking Ralsei for help is out of the question.
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:As in ''Lost Her Way'', Rudolph has passed on.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:As in ''Lost Her Way'', Rudolph has passed on. Unlike ''Lost Her Way'' however, it's implied that Noelle put [[MercyKill him out of his misery]] instead of letting him pass away from his illness.]]
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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: [[spoiler:Noelle ends up causing The Roaring after going through the TraumaCongaLine that is being forced by your childhood friend to kill people in a "dream", having to put your own father down after his terminal illness is too much for him to handle, [[UnableToCry not feeling anything after said father is dead]] and finally receiving the confirmation that said "dream" was very much real.]]
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: {{Discussed}}; Toriel admits to Asgore that she's been considering taking their family out of Hometown for a few days once Asriel returns, in order to escape how most of the residents have been treating her and Kris with suspicion. However, Asgore points out that this might be taken as a tacit admission of guilt.
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** Toriel encourages Alyphs not to blame herself for Noelle's disappearance, pointing out that they can all help look for her missing student together.
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** Toriel encourages Alyphs Alpyhs not to blame herself for Noelle's disappearance, pointing out that they can all help look for her missing student together.
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* ConvictedByPublicOpinion: While nobody in Hometown has any ''proof'' that Kris, Susie or Noelle was involved in Berdly's disappearance, Toriel has noticed that many residents have turned much frostier towards her and Kris, and she can't tell whether their icy stares are condemning or pitying.
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* ForWantOfANail: This animation is basically the post-Snowgrave route alternative to ''Lost Her Way'':
** Berdly's mysterious disappearance has put the town further on edge, and many of the residents suspect Kris of having something to do with it.
** Asgore isn't inappropriately cheerful about Toriel asking him for help, so she doesn't ream him out for having SkewedPriorities.
** Alphys doesn't show up to help with the search efforts, as her GuiltComplex has only been amplified by having lost one of her students ''before'' Noelle disappeared.
** Without Berdly around to act as MrExposition, Susie is left to guess and speculate about what's going on.
** Berdly's mysterious disappearance has put the town further on edge, and many of the residents suspect Kris of having something to do with it.
** Asgore isn't inappropriately cheerful about Toriel asking him for help, so she doesn't ream him out for having SkewedPriorities.
** Alphys doesn't show up to help with the search efforts, as her GuiltComplex has only been amplified by having lost one of her students ''before'' Noelle disappeared.
** Without Berdly around to act as MrExposition, Susie is left to guess and speculate about what's going on.
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* NoBodyLeftBehind: {{Downplayed}} and PlayedForDrama, as this fan work follows the theory that [[spoiler:Lightner monsters who have fallen down turn to dust. As a result, nobody realized that ''Berdly'' was responsible for how everyone using the Librarby's computer lab were suddenly coughing and sneezing a lot more..]].
* OminousFog: Most of Hometown has been covered by one, which enables Kris and Susie to get close enough to witness Undyne's breakdown at the Librarby without being noticed by either her or Napstablook.
* OminousFog: Most of Hometown has been covered by one, which enables Kris and Susie to get close enough to witness Undyne's breakdown at the Librarby without being noticed by either her or Napstablook.
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* AllTakeAndNoGive: Berdly acknowledges that his friendship with Noelle has been rather one-sided, which is part of why he [[MustMakeAmends wants to help find her]].
* CallBack: The final line hearkens back to ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'''s GoldenEnding, when [[spoiler:Noelle admits that "I don't want to let go."]]
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: When Susie points out that Berdly is clearly defying the adults by sneaking out to search for Noelle as well, declaring that she knows he doesn't live in [[spoiler:the cemetery]], Berdly's response is to ask "Susie... You know where I live?"
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: When Susie points out that Berdly is clearly defying the adults by sneaking out to search for Noelle as well, declaring that she knows he doesn't live in [[spoiler:the cemetery]], Berdly's response is to ask "Susie... You know where I live?"
* LockedDoor: While the gateway to [[spoiler:the cemetery]] is normally left open, the party finds that it was locked and rusted shut, with [[MrExposition Berdly]] explaining precisely why this happened.
* OnlyFriend: Berdly admits that Noelle has basically been his only friend for years, as well as the fact that [[TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity he hasn't been the greatest friend in return]].
* OnlyFriend: Berdly admits that Noelle has basically been his only friend for years, as well as the fact that [[TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity he hasn't been the greatest friend in return]].
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* RelationshipSalvagingDisaster: Asgore is rather transparently hoping that Toriel's willingness to ask him for help looking after Kris while she's busy with [[spoiler:the search efforts]] is a sign that their relationship is on the mend. Toriel is... unimpressed, taking him outside and implicitly [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling him out]] on his SkewedPriorities.
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* RelationshipSalvagingDisaster: Asgore is rather transparently hoping that Toriel's willingness to ask him for help looking after Kris while she's busy with [[spoiler:the the search efforts]] efforts is a sign that their relationship is on the mend. Toriel is... unimpressed, taking him outside and implicitly [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling him out]] on his SkewedPriorities.
* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre:
** Toriel encourages Alyphs not to blame herself for Noelle's disappearance, pointing out that they can all help look for her missing student together.
** Similarly, Susie encourages Berdly when he has second thoughts about [[spoiler:helping them find Noelle, as he's uncertain she'll actually want to ''see him'' after how he's treated her]]. Susie points out that [[spoiler:his willingness to help ''alone'' is a sign that he's headed in the right direction]].
** Toriel encourages Alyphs not to blame herself for Noelle's disappearance, pointing out that they can all help look for her missing student together.
** Similarly, Susie encourages Berdly when he has second thoughts about [[spoiler:helping them find Noelle, as he's uncertain she'll actually want to ''see him'' after how he's treated her]]. Susie points out that [[spoiler:his willingness to help ''alone'' is a sign that he's headed in the right direction]].
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** Anyone who's played ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, by [[spoiler:pouring body spray that contains buttercup essence into Asgore's tea, forcing him into the bathroom]].
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** Anyone who's played ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' ''Undertale'' will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, by [[spoiler:pouring body spray that contains buttercup essence into Asgore's tea, forcing him into the bathroom]].
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* CallBack: Anyone who's played Undertale will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, by [[spoiler:pouring body spray that contains buttercup essence into Asgore's tea, forcing him into the bathroom]].
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* CallBack: CallBack:
** Anyone who's playedUndertale ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, by [[spoiler:pouring body spray that contains buttercup essence into Asgore's tea, forcing him into the bathroom]].bathroom]].
** When Kris and Susie are at the [[spoiler:frozen cemetery gates]], the player continues the route by selecting "Proceed."
** Anyone who's played
** When Kris and Susie are at the [[spoiler:frozen cemetery gates]], the player continues the route by selecting "Proceed."
* InternalReveal:
** PlayedWith when Susie asks Kris [[spoiler:just what happened while they were alone with Noelle]]. Kris replies [[spoiler:with simply "Nothing"; however, Susie's reaction hints that she takes this as evidence enough that something went seriously wrong]].
** At the end, [[spoiler:Kris/the player tells Noelle how to open up new Dark Worlds, resulting in her triggering The Roaring]].
* MercyKill: It's heavily implied that [[spoiler:Noelle killed her father in order to put him out of his misery]].
** PlayedWith when Susie asks Kris [[spoiler:just what happened while they were alone with Noelle]]. Kris replies [[spoiler:with simply "Nothing"; however, Susie's reaction hints that she takes this as evidence enough that something went seriously wrong]].
** At the end, [[spoiler:Kris/the player tells Noelle how to open up new Dark Worlds, resulting in her triggering The Roaring]].
* MercyKill: It's heavily implied that [[spoiler:Noelle killed her father in order to put him out of his misery]].
* PaintingTheMedium: Near the end, [[spoiler:Noelle doesn't have any character portraits, reflecting how she is still lost even after Kris finds her]].
* UnableToCry: Noelle laments that she hasn't been able to shed any tears over [[spoiler:her father passing away]].
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* WhatWouldXDo: PlayedWith. While trying to figure out a way to "smart their way into" [[spoiler:the cemetery]], Susie complains that "even Berdly" would have been able to come up with an idea before she has, before laughing to herself that he'd likely treat the whole situation like a video game. This leads her to realize that they should [[spoiler:look for another way in]].
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* BittersweetEnding: Ultimately, [[spoiler:Kris, Susie and Berdly are able to find and comfort Noelle, offering her support in the face of her devastating loss]].
* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Toriel's willingness to ask ''Asgore'' to spend the evening looking after Kris is an immediate signal that something is seriously amiss. Though Asgore initially misinterprets it as something else entirely.
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* CallBack: Anyone who's played Undertale will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, with buttercup spray put into Asgore's tea and poisoning him, forcing him to go to the bathroom to recover.
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* CallBack: Anyone who's played Undertale will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, with by [[spoiler:pouring body spray that contains buttercup spray put essence into Asgore's tea and poisoning him, tea, forcing him to go to into the bathroom to recover.bathroom]].
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* RelationshipSalvagingDisaster: {{Downplayed}}; unlike ''Lost Her Way'', Asgore doesn't offend Toriel by blatantly implying that he sees being asked to look after Kris for the evening as a way to get his foot back in the proverbial door. As a result, Toriel confides more of her concerns in him, and it looks as though the two may be developing more of an AmicableExes relationship. [[spoiler:Until the ending, anyway.]]
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* LighterAndSofter: While still pretty glum, this animation doesn't quite come as close to being as dark as "Lost Herself?" does.
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Susie considers this to bypass the cemetery gate, [[spoiler:though Berdly stops her due to the risk of alerting the adults to their location, forcing them to find another way in. He does think this through in the forest path, though they're too far through to turn back by that point.]]
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Susie considers this to bypass the cemetery gate, [[spoiler:though Berdly stops her due to the risk of alerting the adults to their location, forcing them to find another way in. He does think this through in the forest path, though they're too far through to turn back by that point.]]
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* LighterAndSofter: While still pretty glum, this animation doesn't quite come as close to being as dark as "Lost Herself?" does.
''Lost Herself?'' does, essentially serving as its "Normal Route" counterpart.
* RelationshipSalvagingDisaster: Asgore is rather transparently hoping that Toriel's willingness to ask him for help looking after Kris while she's busy with [[spoiler:the search efforts]] is a sign that their relationship is on the mend. Toriel is... unimpressed, taking him outside and implicitly [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling him out]] on his SkewedPriorities.
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Susie considersthis to bypass breaking down the cemetery gate, [[spoiler:though not seeing any other way to get past the rusted lock. [[spoiler:However, Berdly stops her due to the her, pointing out that they'd risk of alerting the adults to their location, forcing them to find another way in. location. He does think briefly reconsiders this through in while they're on the forest path, though but they're too far through to turn back by that point.]]
* RelationshipSalvagingDisaster: Asgore is rather transparently hoping that Toriel's willingness to ask him for help looking after Kris while she's busy with [[spoiler:the search efforts]] is a sign that their relationship is on the mend. Toriel is... unimpressed, taking him outside and implicitly [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling him out]] on his SkewedPriorities.
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Susie considers
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Undyne silently berates herself for having wished that [[NothingExcitingEverHappensHere something would happen]] in their sleepy town.
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:Rudolph, Noelle's father, had passed away in this set of events.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:Rudolph, Noelle's father, had [[spoiler:As in ''Lost Her Way'', Rudolph has passed away in this set of events.on.]]
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When Kris and Susie see Undyne by the Library, she's clearly not herself, feeling upset that she couldn't intervene and stop Berdly from getting killed.
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler:This is instigated when Susie attempts to bypass the frozen cemetery gate. While initially willing to go for it, she refuses to continue with it thanks to the gates injuring her hands, forcing them to find another way in.]]
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler:This is instigated when Susie attempts to bypass the frozen cemetery gate. While initially willing to go for it, she refuses to continue with it thanks to the gates injuring her hands, forcing them to find another way in.]]
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When Kris and Susie see Undyne by the Library, she's clearly not herself, feeling upset Librarby, she isn't acting anything like her normal self, consumed by anger and frustration over her failure to find Berdly alive like how she'd promised Noelle that she couldn't intervene and stop Berdly from getting killed.
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* PunchAWall: After leaving the Librarby, Undyne punches the wall near the entrance with both hands.
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler:This is instigated when Susie attempts to bypass the frozen cemetery gate. While initially willing to go for it, she refuses to continue with it thanks to the gates injuring her hands, forcing them to find another way in.]]]]
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* PunchAWall: After leaving the Librarby, Undyne punches the wall near the entrance with both hands.
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler:This is instigated when Susie attempts to bypass the frozen cemetery gate. While initially willing to go for it, she refuses to continue with it thanks to the gates injuring her hands, forcing them to find another way in.
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* CallBack: Anyone who's played Undertale will remember that Asgore suffered poisoning when Chara and Asriel put buttercups as an ingredient for a pie. This is instigated here as a means for Kris to leave, with buttercup spray put into Asgore's tea and poisoning him, forcing him to go to the bathroom to recover.
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* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Susie considers this to bypass the cemetery gate, [[spoiler:though Berdly stops her due to the risk of alerting the adults to their location, forcing them to find another way in. He does think this through in the forest path, though they're too far through to turn back by that point.]]
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When Kris and Susie see Undyne by the Library, she's clearly not herself, feeling upset that she couldn't intervene and stop Berdly from getting killed.
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* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler:This is instigated when Susie attempts to bypass the frozen cemetery gate. While initially willing to go for it, she refuses to continue with it thanks to the gates injuring her hands, forcing them to find another way in.]]
* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler:This is instigated when Susie attempts to bypass the frozen cemetery gate. While initially willing to go for it, she refuses to continue with it thanks to the gates injuring her hands, forcing them to find another way in.]]
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* YouAreNotAlone: [[spoiler:Kris, Susie and Berdly give this to Noelle when she's grieving for her father, the three even going as far as to give her a much-needed group hug.]]
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!WARNING!: Since this animation is based on Deltarune's Snowgrave route, it will assume you're familiar with the unsettling events that take place there. As such, [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff all spoilers up to Deltarune Chapter 2 and the aforementioned route are unmarked]].
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!WARNING!: Since this animation is pair of animations are based on Deltarune's Deltarune and its Snowgrave route, it will assume you're familiar with the unsettling events that take place there.place. As such, [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff all spoilers up to Deltarune Chapter 2 and the aforementioned route are unmarked]].
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Its LighterAndSofter counterpart, "What if Noelle Lost Her Way?", can be watched [[https://youtu.be/D1Y1SXsoBhA here]].
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Considering this is based on the Snowgrave route, this is a given, with things clearly not okay here.
* DarkerAndEdgier: Considering this is based on the Snowgrave route, this is a given, with things clearly not okay here.
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* LighterAndSofter: While still pretty glum, this animation doesn't quite come as close to being as dark as "Lost Herself?" does.
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!What if Noelle Lost Herself? contains the following examples:
* DarkerAndEdgier: Considering this is based on the Snowgrave route, this is a given, with things clearly not okay here.
* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:Rudolph, Noelle's father, had passed away in this set of events.]]
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!What if Noelle Lost Herself? contains the following examples:
* DarkerAndEdgier: Considering this is based on the Snowgrave route, this is a given, with things clearly not okay here.
* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:Rudolph, Noelle's father, had passed away in this set of events.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:Rudolph, Noelle's father, had passed away in this set of events.]]
* EveryoneDiesEnding: [[spoiler:Considering the Titans awaken thanks to Noelle creating another Dark Fountain, it's highly likely that it doomed everyone in Hometown AND in the remaining Dark Worlds.]]
* EveryoneDiesEnding: [[spoiler:Considering the Titans awaken thanks to Noelle creating another Dark Fountain, it's highly likely that it doomed everyone in Hometown AND in the remaining Dark Worlds.]]
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When Kris and Susie see Undyne by the Library, she's clearly not herself, feeling upset that she couldn't intervene and stop Berdly from getting killed.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When Kris and Susie see Undyne by the Library, she's clearly not herself, feeling upset that she couldn't intervene and stop Berdly from getting killed.
