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This is sorta related to, but not necessarily dependent on, WMGs such as the one directly above this one that put Zootopia in the same universe as other WorldOfFunnyAnimal media that [[CarnivoreConfusion completely ignore predator/prey issues]].

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This is sorta related to, but not necessarily dependent on, WMGs [=WMGs=] such as the one directly above this one that put Zootopia in the same universe as other WorldOfFunnyAnimal WorldOfFunnyAnimals media that [[CarnivoreConfusion completely ignore predator/prey issues]].
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[[WMG: Predator/Prey relations were actually quite good for a long time until fairly recently.]]
This is sorta related to, but not necessarily dependent on, WMGs such as the one directly above this one that put Zootopia in the same universe as other WorldOfFunnyAnimal media that [[CarnivoreConfusion completely ignore predator/prey issues]].

Maybe for a long time predators and prey got along just fine, until people started studying... anthropology? zoology? Not sure what it would be called in this universe, anyway, at some point they rediscovered the long-forgotten fact that, shock horror, these mammals used to eat each other. Which, understandably, freaked everyone the hell out and put them a bit on edge, setting the stage for Bellwether's plot.

However, this may be a mostly separate issue from why [[AcceptableEthnicTargets everyone seems to hate foxes]]. Foxes may have been a discriminated group even before this happened, though it may have given those with the inclination to hate them an excuse to hate them even more.
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[[WMG: WesternAnimation/TaleSpin occurs in the past of this universe]]
Both show technologically advanced societies of animals. If Zootopia is set in the 2010's, Talespin is their version of the 1940s or 50s. The cultures of the islands might have had more tolerant approaches to predator/prey relations. It might also reflect changing standards of clothing decency as many of the characters are depicted as wearing pants, but others aren't.

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Simply because romance between male and female leads is becoming cliche. When was the last time you saw a platonic male/female relationship as the main relationship in an animated film? The last I can remember is ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''. (And no, ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' doesn't qualify, since Ralph and Vanellope are of different ages.) At best, there will be a bunch of {{Ship Tease teasing}} between Nick and Judy.

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Simply because romance between male and female leads is becoming cliche. When was the last time you saw a platonic male/female relationship as the main relationship in an animated film? The last I can remember is ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''. (And no, ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' doesn't qualify, since Ralph and Vanellope are of different ages.) At best, there will be a bunch of {{Ship Tease teasing}} [[ShipTease teasing]] between Nick and Judy.
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[[WMG: It will be a prequel focusing on Bellwether.]]
It will start with her as a child, as we learn where her prejudice against predators came from. (Maybe some of her family was killed by wolves or something.) Then we'll learn how she came to work for Lionheart, how she found out about the night howlers and what they can do, and how she hired Doug and the other rams. Then it'll end with Judy and Nick coming to visit her in prison, Judy explaining that what she did was no better than what the wolves did to her family, and a hint at her possible redemption.
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[[WMG: The original story is a parallel universe]]
In a parallel universe, Nick and Judy were both born 20 years later. Since they weren't around to stop Bellwether, her plan succeeded, leading to the world with the shock collars.
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And unlike the [Film/TheGodfather original]] [[DomesticAbuse character]], he's a NiceGuy who doesn't want anything to do with the [[TheMafia family business]].

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And unlike the [Film/TheGodfather [[Film/TheGodfather original]] [[DomesticAbuse character]], he's a NiceGuy who doesn't want anything to do with the [[TheMafia family business]].
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[[WMG: [[MafiaPrincess Fru-Fru's]] husband's name is Carlo.]]

And unlike the [Film/TheGodfather original]] [[DomesticAbuse character]], he's a NiceGuy who doesn't want anything to do with the [[TheMafia family business]].
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[[WMG: Bunnyburrow is not the name of Judy's home town, but rather a larger region surrounding it.]]
The sign as she was leaving Bunnyburrow listed the population as over 80 million. Even accounting for the fact that it might not have been that high when she was 8, the Carrot Days festival, crowded as it was, didn't seem nearly big enough to be the main harvest festival for nearly that big of a population, and the area didn't seem that densely populated. Instead, perhaps it was the harvest festival for an unnamed small town within the Bunnyburrow region.
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\n[[WMG: "Mutton chops" is extreme profanity by sheep standards]]
To a sheep, "mutton chops" means "chopped up bits of old people". To the viewer, it may seem like a folksy [[GoshDarnItToHeck minced oath]], but for Bellwether, it was actually a PrecisionFStrike.
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[[WMG: [[Disney/ChickenLittle Foxy Loxie]] is a close relative, perhaps a cousin, of Gideon Grey.]]
...and witnessing her infamous MindRape [[ScareEmStraight shook him to the core]] and convinced him that, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone if that's what being a bully got you]], then he would never do it again (granted, Foxy Loxie didn't ''deserve'' what she got, making Gideon RightForTheWrongReasons).


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* This Tweet from Rich Moore, her name [[https://twitter.com/_rich_moore/status/734475537586872320 IS]]Gazelle.
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* Given the movie's penchant for subverting stereotypes, it would be hilarious if both those statements were true, but for [[CampStraight opposite]] [[StraightGay characters]] than expected.
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed for how the HatePlague works. Jossed, sort of, for who gets "afflicted" among the principal characters.]]

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** [[spoiler: Confirmed for how the HatePlague works. Jossed, sort of, for who gets "afflicted" among the principal characters. All though during the conversation that clues in Judy to what's going on, her father mentions that her uncle was exposed to an excess of the night howler their family used to keep bugs away and attacked her mother when they were children - [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence apparently biting a chunk out of her arm.]] ]]
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due to the wide variety of species with very different needs (wildly different overall sizes, different leg lengths and girths, size and placement of the tail hole on the pants, etc). Instead, everyone has to visit a tailor to get all their clothes custom-made.

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due to the wide variety of species with very different needs (wildly different overall sizes, different leg limb lengths and girths, size and placement of the tail hole on the pants, etc). Instead, everyone has to visit a tailor to get all their clothes custom-made.
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[[WMG: One or both of the sheep kids getting bullied by Gideon at the beginning grew up to work for Bellwether.]]
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** Consider the age of the apartment: The external wiring (the switch on the wall has wiring on the surface of the wall), the "greasy walls," the coat-rack, the hardwood floors that have seen much use all suggest a place that is easily a century or two old. Even in our own universe, such apartments lacked bathrooms -- they were communal. Judy must've been really hard-up to have to rent there! Reminds one of the room Elwood had at the beginning of Blues Brothers.

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** Consider the age of the apartment: The external wiring (the switch on the wall has wiring on the surface of the wall), the "greasy walls," the coat-rack, the hardwood floors that have seen much use all suggest a place that is easily a century or two old. Even in our own universe, such apartments lacked bathrooms -- they were communal. Judy must've been really hard-up to have to rent there! Reminds one of the room Elwood had at the beginning of Blues Brothers.
''Film/TheBluesBrothers''.
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** Consider the age of the apartment: The external wiring (the switch on the wall has wiring on the surface of the wall), the "greasy walls," the coat-rack, the hardwood floors that have seen much use all suggest a place that is easily a century or two old. Even in our own universe, such apartments lacked bathrooms -- they were communal. Judy must've been really hard-up to have to rent there! Reminds one of the room Elwood had at the beginning of Blues Brothers.
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[[WMG: Due to the wide variety of species with very different needs, cheap mass-produced ready-made clothing never became economically viable in this world.]]
Instead, everyone has to see a tailor to get all their clothes custom-made.

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[[WMG: Due to the wide variety of species with very different needs, cheap Cheap mass-produced ready-made clothing never became economically viable in this world.]]
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due to the wide variety of species with very different needs (wildly different overall sizes, different leg lengths and girths, size and placement of the tail hole on the pants, etc).
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[[WMG: Due to the wide variety of species with very different needs, cheap mass-produced ready-made clothing never became economically viable in this world.]]
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* Even if it isn't a historical documentary, ''The Lion King'' could still be a popular movie; one of the pivotal scenes involves Simba switching from the "barbaric" consumption of prey species (zebra, antelope, hippo, etc.) to a more "civilized" insectivore diet.

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* Even if it isn't a historical documentary, ''The Lion King'' ''Disney/TheLionKing'' could still be a popular movie; one of the pivotal scenes involves Simba switching from the "barbaric" consumption of prey species (zebra, antelope, hippo, etc.) to a more "civilized" insectivore diet.



* Alternatively, it could be possible that ''The Lion King'' and ''The Lion King II: Simba's Pride'' are merely this universe's incarnation of ''Hamlet'' and ''Romeo and Juliet'', the famous Shakespeare plays.

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* Alternatively, it could be possible that ''The Lion King'' ''Disney/TheLionKing'' and ''The Lion King II: Simba's Pride'' ''Disney/TheLionKingII:Simba'sPride'' are merely this universe's incarnation of ''Hamlet'' and ''Romeo and Juliet'', the famous Shakespeare plays.
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* Alternatively, it could be possible that ''The Lion King'' and ''The Lion King II: Simba's Pride'' are merely this universe's incarnation of ''Hamlet'' and ''Romeo and Juliet'', the famous Shakespeare plays.
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All of the above inconsistencies go away if you assume Bellwether was anonymously informing Lionheart about the attacks ahead of time. Taking over a city government is a risky venture at the best of times, you don't want the added uncertainty of doing so while the public is rioting in the streets. Causing a panic was therefore only the second stage of Bellwether's plan, first she needed to secure her place as mayor while things were still nice and peaceful. The first stage of her plan was to anonymously feed Lionheart information about the impending attacks, let him capture and hide away the savage predators, even silence witnesses where necessary in order to keep the whole thing hidden from the public, and wait for the police to discover the illegal detention facility. Only once she was firmly in control would she move on to stage two, striking openly to incite panic to push her anti-predator agenda, as indicated by Doug saying his next attack, the first after Lionheart's arrest, is going to make the news. No wonder the poor lion was in such a foul mood most of the time, he knew he was being played like a fiddle but unable to do anything about it. Even though he's in jail during the credits, he's a lot happier and looks like a weight has been lifted from his shoulders.

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All of the above inconsistencies go away if you assume Bellwether was anonymously informing Lionheart about the attacks ahead of time. Taking over a city government is a risky venture at the best of times, you don't want the added uncertainty of doing so while the public is rioting in the streets. Causing a panic was therefore only the second stage of Bellwether's plan, first she needed to secure her place as mayor while things were still nice and peaceful. The first stage of her plan was to anonymously feed Lionheart information about the impending attacks, let him capture and hide away the savage predators, even silence witnesses where necessary in order to keep the whole thing hidden from the public, and wait for the police to discover the illegal detention facility. Only once she was firmly in control would she move on to stage two, striking openly to incite panic to push her anti-predator agenda, as indicated by Doug saying his next attack, the first after Lionheart's arrest, is going to make the news. No wonder the poor lion was in such a foul mood most of the time, time; he knew he was being played like a fiddle but unable to do anything about it. Even though he's in jail during the credits, he's a lot happier and looks like a weight has been lifted from his shoulders.
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*** If the African species immigrated, then they must have done so very early in the city's history, because they seem to be the ones with most of the established institutional power. The mayor is an african lion, and with the exception of a few tigers, bears, and wolves, the police force seems to be composed almost entirely of African megafauna like cape buffalo, cheetahs, elephants, hippos, rhinos, and lions. Also, one of the most blatantly racist characters in the movie is an elephant, who has unbridled contempt for the (apparently native) foxes. A bit of FridgeHorror there in that this raises the possibility that African mammals founded Zootopia in Europe or North America as a "colony" and in the process basically run roughshod over the rights of the native peoples like foxes, rabbits, sheep, weasels, etc, similar to how natives were often treated by conquering powers in real life. This seems like it might contradict the backstory of Zootopia being founded at the watering hole where predators and prey first made peace, but it could still make sense if the African species started conquering other lands even before, i.e, the lions agreed to stop eating the zebras and such.
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[[WMG: The sequel will be set about 15-20 years after the original, and will involve Judy returning home to Bunnyburrow to run for sheriff.]]
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* [[FridgeBrilliance This could be one additional reason]] why Bellwether, in particular, has anti-predator sentiments.
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All of the above inconsistencies go away if you assume Bellwether was anonymously informing Lionheart about the attacks ahead of time. Taking over a city government is a risky venture at the best of times, you don't want the added uncertainty of doing so while the public is rioting in the streets. Causing a panic was therefore only the second stage of Bellwether's plan, first she needed to secure her place as mayor while things were still nice and peaceful. The first stage of her plan was to anonymously feed Lionheart information about the impending attacks, let him capture and hide away the savage predators, even silence witnesses where necessary in order to keep the whole thing hidden from the public, and wait for the police to discover the illegal detention facility. Only once she was firmly in control would she move on to stage two, striking openly to incite panic to push her anti-predator agenda. No wonder the poor lion was in such a foul mood most of the time, he knew he was being played like a fiddle but unable to do anything about it. Even though he's in jail during the credits, he's a lot happier and looks like a weight has been lifted from his shoulders.

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All of the above inconsistencies go away if you assume Bellwether was anonymously informing Lionheart about the attacks ahead of time. Taking over a city government is a risky venture at the best of times, you don't want the added uncertainty of doing so while the public is rioting in the streets. Causing a panic was therefore only the second stage of Bellwether's plan, first she needed to secure her place as mayor while things were still nice and peaceful. The first stage of her plan was to anonymously feed Lionheart information about the impending attacks, let him capture and hide away the savage predators, even silence witnesses where necessary in order to keep the whole thing hidden from the public, and wait for the police to discover the illegal detention facility. Only once she was firmly in control would she move on to stage two, striking openly to incite panic to push her anti-predator agenda.agenda, as indicated by Doug saying his next attack, the first after Lionheart's arrest, is going to make the news. No wonder the poor lion was in such a foul mood most of the time, he knew he was being played like a fiddle but unable to do anything about it. Even though he's in jail during the credits, he's a lot happier and looks like a weight has been lifted from his shoulders.
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* The equivalent of knives would probably be even more claw-like than the karambit. Knives (or at least daggers, kitchen knives and utility knives might be a different story) would probably never have even been invented. Instead, prey animals probably would have invented metallic strap-on WolverineClaws to allow them to imitate the natural fighting style of predators. Predators would probably eventually go full circle and adopt these weapons as well, since steel is far superior to keratin.
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[[WMG:Pigs and sheep are descendants of slaves]]
Somewhere during the development of civilization, predators went through a Spartan-like phase where the predators were warriors and certain prey were slaves bred for work, wool and food. The predators were later defeated by civilized prey and forced to give up on this system. This is why the world of Zootopia, where humans "never happened" according to WordOfGod, has clearly domestic pigs and sheep, rather than wild boars and mouflons, but not dog breeds (because wolves were not enslaved). This shameful past has made pigs and sheep very sensitive to racist attitudes against them, and at the same time strongly prejudiced towards predators.
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[[WMG: Bellwether's plot is a lot more sophisticated than it seems at first glance]]
This solves a number of apparent plot holes the film has, some of which are detailed in the Headscratchers section:

Firstly, how exactly does Lionheart contain the savage predators quickly enough to hide their affliction from the public? He's not part of Bellwether's plot, so he doesn't know where Doug the toxic sniper is going to hit next, yet his wolves manage to snatch Manchas before the police arrive despite the fact that Hopps called for backup immediately. Without knowing who is going to go savage next, that kind of reaction time would require monitoring every single predator around the clock and having lots of vans ready and waiting all around the city, as traveling from the out-of-city base would take too long.

Even if Lionheart could finance, organize, and keep secret such a huge operation, how did he even know there would be something he'd want to keep hidden from the public in the first place? The first predator going savage was just an isolated incident of someone going nuts, Lionheart couldn't have been prepared for that. And he couldn't have known it wasn't an isolated incident, so the second one must have become known as well. Without inside information about the plot, Lionheart could realize that this was going to be a serious problem only after the second incident, by which point it would have been be too late.

Furthermore, the investigations are for missing persons, not kidnappings. This indicates that nobody saw Lionheart's wolves capturing the savage predators, which in turn indicates that Doug shot them in isolated locations with nobody else around. Doug is even dispatched to dispose of the only witness there is, Manchas. If Bellwether's plot was merely to cause a panic in order to turn prey against predator like she says when confronting Hopps, this makes no sense. Wouldn't it be better to strike in public places with lots of witnesses/potential victims? Especially after being thwarted and having her savage predator disappear without anyone even noticing it for the fourteenth time?

And finally, Bellwether says that she framed Lionheart. But did she? There's no implication at all from anyone, neither Bellwether nor the police, that he's somehow responsible for making the predators go savage. The only thing he's guilty of is illegally detaining them, and he did that on his own.

All of the above inconsistencies go away if you assume Bellwether was anonymously informing Lionheart about the attacks ahead of time. Taking over a city government is a risky venture at the best of times, you don't want the added uncertainty of doing so while the public is rioting in the streets. Causing a panic was therefore only the second stage of Bellwether's plan, first she needed to secure her place as mayor while things were still nice and peaceful. The first stage of her plan was to anonymously feed Lionheart information about the impending attacks, let him capture and hide away the savage predators, even silence witnesses where necessary in order to keep the whole thing hidden from the public, and wait for the police to discover the illegal detention facility. Only once she was firmly in control would she move on to stage two, striking openly to incite panic to push her anti-predator agenda. No wonder the poor lion was in such a foul mood most of the time, he knew he was being played like a fiddle but unable to do anything about it. Even though he's in jail during the credits, he's a lot happier and looks like a weight has been lifted from his shoulders.
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Like something bad happens to Nick that make him upset in the sequel, it could be anything. Nick is a character who hold in his emotions. In a weird way, I think that Nick sort of blames himself for being bullied. Logically he's know it isn't his fault but emotionally he feels like it is his fault. Judy is probably one of the few people that Nick truly does trust in Zootopia. I feel that Judy should break down those doors to let Nick out.

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Like something bad happens to Nick that make him upset in the sequel, it could be anything. Nick is a character who hold in his emotions. In a weird way, I think that Nick sort of blames himself for being bullied. Logically he's know it isn't his fault but emotionally he feels like it is his fault. Judy is probably one of the few people mammals that Nick truly does trust in Zootopia. I feel that Judy should break down those doors to let Nick out.

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