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* This would explain Morathi's UnexplainedRecovery, and ties with fact she noted to have been "changed" by her captivity by Slaanesh. Not to mention, Morathi is now served by Daemons of Shadow, who resemble Daemonettes. It would also be a ironic HistoryRepeats itself, as Morathi was suggested to be Slaaneshi [[TheMole mole]] who seduced Aenarion, and now she probably tries to do the same with Sigmar and [[ParentalIncest Malerion]]...
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* This would explain Morathi's UnexplainedRecovery, and ties with the fact she is noted to have been "changed" by her captivity by Slaanesh. Not to mention, Morathi is now served by Daemons of Shadow, who resemble Daemonettes. It would also be a an ironic HistoryRepeats itself, as Morathi was suggested to be a Slaaneshi [[TheMole mole]] who seduced Aenarion, and now she probably tries to do the same with Sigmar and [[ParentalIncest Malerion]]...
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* He rather nicelly fits as being seemingly made out of stars, similar to the concept of Star Gods of C'tan. C'tan were one of the few entities in Warhammer 40,000, that didn't have an analogue in Warhammer Fantasy (even the Emperor of Mankind had analogues in Sigmar and the Everqueen), so Games Workshop might have thought it would be interesting to use one in the Warhammer Rebooot. Not to mention, after Dracothion mentored Sigmar, Sigmar created Stormcast Eternals, which are quite similar to Necrons, aside from resembling Space Marines, as noted on the Characters Page.
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* He rather nicelly nicely fits as being seemingly made out of stars, similar to the concept of the Star Gods of C'tan. Gods. The C'tan were one of the few entities in Warhammer 40,000, that didn't have an analogue in Warhammer Fantasy (even the Emperor of Mankind had analogues in Sigmar and the Everqueen), so Games Workshop might have thought it would be interesting to use one in the Warhammer Rebooot. Not to mention, after Dracothion mentored Sigmar, Sigmar created Stormcast Eternals, which are quite similar to Necrons, aside from resembling Space Marines, as noted on the Characters Page.
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* If Dracothion is a draconic C'tan, then then it's possible he may be a benevolent version of Mag'ladroth the Void Dragon. Not to mention, their relationships with their unierses respective Emperors, mirror each other nicelly. Dracothion saved the hurled through space Sigmar, and taught him, while the Emperor of Mankind traveled through space to Mars, to defeat the Void Dragon, and used Mag'ladroth to subconciously guide Cult Mechanicus.
!!Dracothion is Sotek. Sotek wasn't a Old One, but it was created as a fail-safe by the Old Ones to safeguard whatever remained of the world in another possible instance of end times.
!!Dracothion is Sotek. Sotek wasn't a Old One, but it was created as a fail-safe by the Old Ones to safeguard whatever remained of the world in another possible instance of end times.
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* If Dracothion is a draconic C'tan, then then it's possible he may be a benevolent version of Mag'ladroth the Void Dragon. Not to mention, their relationships with their unierses universe’s respective Emperors, mirror each other nicelly. Dracothion saved the hurled through space Sigmar, and taught him, while the Emperor of Mankind traveled through space to Mars, to defeat the Void Dragon, and used Mag'ladroth to subconciously subconsciously guide the Cult Mechanicus.
!!Dracothion is Sotek. Sotek wasn'ta an Old One, but it was created as a fail-safe by the Old Ones to safeguard whatever remained of the world in another possible instance of end times.
!!Dracothion is Sotek. Sotek wasn't
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!!Sigmar is engaged in long-term Batman Gambit to redeem Archaon, possibly into his successor.
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!!Sigmar is engaged in a long-term Batman Gambit to redeem Archaon, possibly into his successor.
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** The process of creation is completely different. Also, about Draigo, the Quest of Ghal Maraz books implies that the silver-armored giant Araloth encountered wasn't him, but a Stormast Eternal (a Hallowed Knight, the ones who looks like Grey Knights). It's not that known, but the warp has an habit to mess with time. People charged against GW like about this because the above point, and Matt Ward being the author didn't help, but what they did was a mere Foreshadowing.
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** The process of creation is completely different. Also, about Draigo, the Quest of Ghal Maraz books implies that the silver-armored giant Araloth encountered wasn't him, but a Stormast Stormcast Eternal (a Hallowed Knight, the ones who looks look like Grey Knights). It's not that known, but the warp has an habit to mess with time. People charged against GW like about this because the above point, and Matt Ward being the author didn't help, but what they did was a mere Foreshadowing.
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Fans even speculated it would Morathi replacing Slaanesh, before the it was officially announced the Horned Rat would be.
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** Jossed, their delusions are just contagious and there are also those driven mad en masse by other events.
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** Jossed. Lost Legions are now revealed to have been integrated into the Imperial Fists and Ultramarines with their memories altered.
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** Aside from Gotrek Gurnisson canonically [[EpicFail failing to complete his Slayer Oath]] so hard that he survived the end of the World-That-Was and turned up in the Age of Sigmar, the novel ''Hamilcar, Champion of the Gods'', mentions not only that Stormcast leaders tend to name the Chambers they lead (Hamilcar Bear-Eater's Chamber is known as the Bear Eaters, in fact) but also that there is a Chamber of the Anvils of the Heldenhammer called the Imperishables. Lead by Lord-Celestant Settrus. If he's who he's implied to be, then Sigmar having Vlad reforged into a Stormcast Eternal would be '''easier''' to pull off.
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* Forbidden Power seems to be hinting at some of the older heroes/villains might be returning.
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* Forbidden Power seems to be hinting at some of the older heroes/villains might be returning.returning.
!!Sigmar is engaged in long-term Batman Gambit to redeem Archaon, possibly into his successor.
Redemption seems to be a theme in Age of Sigmar (Malerion, Daemon [possibly Settra] being turned into a Stormforged Eternal). Combine that with Sigmar being the incarnate/god of heaven magic, which includes prophecy, it could be that Sigmar has seen how to end the Chaos gods. First, he has a prophecy created that exactly describes a young Archaon who then questions his god's willingness to help him overcome the horrible destiny. Even then, Archaon still set out to end Chaos by bringing it to its (il)logical conclusion of entropic death. In this process, Teclis is inspired to unchain the Winds of Magic from Chaos allowing magic to be uninfluenced by Chaos so that when the WTW ended, it would reform without the ingrained chaos. It is a slow process, but Sigmar is enacting a plan to end the dark gods.
!!Sigmar is engaged in long-term Batman Gambit to redeem Archaon, possibly into his successor.
Redemption seems to be a theme in Age of Sigmar (Malerion, Daemon [possibly Settra] being turned into a Stormforged Eternal). Combine that with Sigmar being the incarnate/god of heaven magic, which includes prophecy, it could be that Sigmar has seen how to end the Chaos gods. First, he has a prophecy created that exactly describes a young Archaon who then questions his god's willingness to help him overcome the horrible destiny. Even then, Archaon still set out to end Chaos by bringing it to its (il)logical conclusion of entropic death. In this process, Teclis is inspired to unchain the Winds of Magic from Chaos allowing magic to be uninfluenced by Chaos so that when the WTW ended, it would reform without the ingrained chaos. It is a slow process, but Sigmar is enacting a plan to end the dark gods.
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* The AotH Color Scheme is near identical to one of the later Vlad models.
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* The AotH Color Scheme is near identical to one of the later Vlad models. Compare [[https://whfb.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/d/d1/Vlad.jpg/800px-Vlad.jpg Vlad]] to [[https://whfb.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/0/00/Anvils_of_the_Heldenhammer_colors.jpg/300px-Anvils_of_the_Heldenhammer_colors.jpg Anvils of the Heldenhammer]].
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!!Vlad von Carstein/Vashanesh will be revealed as the Lord-Celestant of the Anvils of the Heldenhammer.
Consider the Following:
* The Lord-Celestant of the AotH has yet to be revealed.
* They are said to be "reforged as the Broken World span sinister beneath a fell aspect" resulting them having a more dour attitude.
* They are said to "heroes of an old era" but it is never specified which.
* They are willing to accept their "deaths" for the greater good to an unusual degree.
* They are a unique Stormhost assigned to Shyish, Realm of Death.
* The AotH Color Scheme is near identical to one of the later Vlad models.
* Forbidden Power seems to be hinting at some of the older heroes/villains might be returning.
!!Vlad von Carstein/Vashanesh will be revealed as the Lord-Celestant of the Anvils of the Heldenhammer.
Consider the Following:
* The Lord-Celestant of the AotH has yet to be revealed.
* They are said to be "reforged as the Broken World span sinister beneath a fell aspect" resulting them having a more dour attitude.
* They are said to "heroes of an old era" but it is never specified which.
* They are willing to accept their "deaths" for the greater good to an unusual degree.
* They are a unique Stormhost assigned to Shyish, Realm of Death.
* The AotH Color Scheme is near identical to one of the later Vlad models.
* Forbidden Power seems to be hinting at some of the older heroes/villains might be returning.
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*** The differences in their creation process (among other things) can be explained as simple Euhemerism. Someone accustomed to medieval standards of living can't understand "drop pods", so they record it as "lightning bolts". They can't understand "the Apothecary recovers the gene-seed and plants it in a new host, which causes some genetic similarity in the recipient", so they just record it as "the Relictor collects his soul and takes it to a magic forge where the God-King remakes him".
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* The differences in their creation process and so on can be explained as simple Euhemerism. Someone accustomed to medieval standards of living can't understand "drop pods", so they record it as "lightning bolts". They can't understand "the Apothecary recovers the gene-seed and plants it in a new host, which causes some genetic similarity in the recipient", so they just record it as "the Relictor collects his soul and takes it to a magic forge where the God-King remakes him".
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* The differences in their creation process Alternatively, they're one of the Lost Legions. Note that they're structured into multiple stormhosts, each about Astartes-Chapter size and so on can be explained as simple Euhemerism. Someone accustomed reporting to medieval standards of living can't understand "drop pods", so they record it as "lightning bolts". They can't understand "the Apothecary recovers a Lord Commander, with either Sigmar or the gene-seed and plants it in Celestant-Prime apparently commanding all the hosts. That's very much like the Legio Astartes structure, with a new host, which causes some genetic similarity Primarch in the recipient", so they just record it as "the Relictor collects his soul Prime's place and takes it to a magic forge where the God-King remakes him".Great Companies instead of Stormhosts.
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* The differences in their creation process and so on can be explained as simple Euhemerism. Someone accustomed to medieval standards of living can't understand "drop pods", so they record it as "lightning bolts". They can't understand "the Apothecary recovers the gene-seed and plants it in a new host, which causes some genetic similarity in the recipient", so they just record it as "the Relictor collects his soul and takes it to a magic forge where the God-King remakes him".
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* Slaanesh will find a way to break out of the Aelfs imprisonment, due to meddling of Moriathi, who tries to become the Ur-Slaanesh. And then he/she/it will bestow horrible vengeance on them like the Fall of the Eldar.Eldar.
!!The Flesh Eater Courts are remnants of Bretonnia
* Just my way of explaining why ghouls now have an actual army and actual nobles and knights. I figure at least one human faction should have fallen to the bad guys. Wouldn't want the setting getting ''too'' optimistic.
!!Alarielle will become a MindHive with Ariel and go totally nuts
Seems like they're building towards the nuts part, I just think the multiple conflicting personalities might go a ways towards explaining that
!!The Flesh Eater Courts are remnants of Bretonnia
* Just my way of explaining why ghouls now have an actual army and actual nobles and knights. I figure at least one human faction should have fallen to the bad guys. Wouldn't want the setting getting ''too'' optimistic.
!!Alarielle will become a MindHive with Ariel and go totally nuts
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!!Slaanesh will break out of his/her/its imprisonment in the future.
* Slaanesh will find a way to break out of the Aelfs imprisonment, and will bestow horrible vengeance on them like the Fall of the Eldar.
* Slaanesh will find a way to break out of the Aelfs imprisonment, and will bestow horrible vengeance on them like the Fall of the Eldar.
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... Games Workshop didn't turn back when they made Warhammer 40k 3rd edition, which introduced almost equally big changes and was met very badly at the beginning. They are not going to bend the knee. So don't get your hopes up. Plus, some fans have finally started to like and in some instances, love AoS. In a few years, it's going to be great, thanks to the world development.
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... Games Workshop didn't turn back when they made Warhammer 40k 3rd edition, which introduced almost equally big changes and was met very badly at the beginning. They are not going to bend the knee. So don't get your hopes up. Plus, some fans have finally started to like and in some instances, love AoS.Age of Sigmar. In a few years, it's going to be great, thanks to the world development.
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* He rather nicelly fits as being seemingly made out of stars, similar to the concept of Star Gods of C'tan. C'tan were one aalso of the few entities in Warhammer 40,000, that didn't have an analogue in Warhammer Fantasy (even the Emperor of Mankind had analogues in Sigmar and the Everqueen), so Games Workshop might have thought it would be interesting to use one in the Warhammer Rebooot. Not to mention, after Dracothion mentored Sigmar, Sigmar created Stormcast Eternals, which are quite similar to Necrons, aside from resembling Space Marines, as noted on the Characters Page.
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* He rather nicelly fits as being seemingly made out of stars, similar to the concept of Star Gods of C'tan. C'tan were one aalso of the few entities in Warhammer 40,000, that didn't have an analogue in Warhammer Fantasy (even the Emperor of Mankind had analogues in Sigmar and the Everqueen), so Games Workshop might have thought it would be interesting to use one in the Warhammer Rebooot. Not to mention, after Dracothion mentored Sigmar, Sigmar created Stormcast Eternals, which are quite similar to Necrons, aside from resembling Space Marines, as noted on the Characters Page.
!!Dracothion is Sotek. Sotek wasn't a Old One, but it was created as a fail-safe by the Old Ones to safeguard whatever remained of the world in another possible instance of end times.
*This is the most likely theory that is true about Dracothion.
*This is the most likely theory that is true about Dracothion.
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* As mentioned, even the [[http://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/greathornedrat.png current symbol of the Great Horned Rat]] doesn't look at all the like symbol of the successor of Slaanesh a the bottom of the [[http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/aos-chaos-pantheon.jpg Age of Sigmar 4 Chaos Gods symbols]], and Archaon rejected both the Horned Rat and the Keeper of Secrets Luxscious as usurpers to Slaanesh's throne, and neither being a proper successor. On the other hand, Archaon was stated to be [[WorthyOpponent fascinated by the Exiles(the reborn Dark Elves), due the them being the only ones able to fight him, and his forces back]]. Morathi replacing Slaanesh, would also fit Age of Sigmar's theme of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin ascended mortals]] replacing gods of old. It's possible, if she indeed has a art of Slaanesh inside of her as suggested in the above ''Morathi holds a part of Slaanesh within herself, and will be crucial to his/her's/it's return'', this will let her to become the ''New Slaanesh''/''Ur-Slaanesh''.
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* As mentioned, even the [[http://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/greathornedrat.png current symbol of the Great Horned Rat]] doesn't look at all the like symbol of the successor of Slaanesh a the bottom of the [[http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/aos-chaos-pantheon.jpg Age of Sigmar 4 Chaos Gods symbols]], and Archaon rejected both the Horned Rat and the Keeper of Secrets Luxscious as usurpers to Slaanesh's throne, and neither being a proper successor. On the other hand, Archaon was stated to be [[WorthyOpponent fascinated by the Exiles(the reborn Dark Elves), due the them being the only ones able to fight him, and his forces back]]. Morathi replacing Slaanesh, would also fit Age of Sigmar's theme of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin ascended mortals]] replacing gods of old. It's possible, if she indeed has a art of Slaanesh inside of her as suggested in the above ''Morathi holds a part of Slaanesh within herself, and will be crucial to his/her's/it's return'', this will let her to become the ''New Slaanesh''/''Ur-Slaanesh''.Slaanesh''/''Ur-Slaanesh''.
!!Slaanesh will break out of his/her/its imprisonment in the future.
* Slaanesh will find a way to break out of the Aelfs imprisonment, due to meddling of Moriathi, who tries to become the Ur-Slaanesh. And then he/she/it will bestow horrible vengeance on them like the Fall of the Eldar.
!!Slaanesh will break out of his/her/its imprisonment in the future.
* Slaanesh will find a way to break out of the Aelfs imprisonment, due to meddling of Moriathi, who tries to become the Ur-Slaanesh. And then he/she/it will bestow horrible vengeance on them like the Fall of the Eldar.
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** This is actually canon. Not all humans like Sigmar. Some decided to say fuck you and joined the ranks of other gods, be they Chaos or not. (Minus Gorkamorka and Horned Rat. Yes, some even joined [[OmnicidalManiac NAGASH]]out of all people.)
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** This is actually canon. Not all humans like Sigmar. Some decided to say fuck you and joined the ranks of other gods, be they Chaos or not. (Minus Gorkamorka and Horned Rat. Yes, some even joined [[OmnicidalManiac NAGASH]]out NAGASH]] out of all people.)
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** This is actually canon. Not all humans like Sigmar. Some decided to say fuck you and joined the ranks of other gods, be they Chaos or not. (Minus Gorkamorka and Horned Rat. Yes, some even joined [[OmnicidalManiac NAGASH out of all people.]]
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** This is actually canon. Not all humans like Sigmar. Some decided to say fuck you and joined the ranks of other gods, be they Chaos or not. (Minus Gorkamorka and Horned Rat. Yes, some even joined [[OmnicidalManiac NAGASH out NAGASH]]out of all people.]]
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... Games Workshop didn't turn back when they made Warhammer 40k 3rd edition, which introduced almost equally big changes and was met very badly at the beginning. They are not going to bend the knee. So don't get your hopes up. Plus, some fans have finally started to like and in some instances, love AoS. It's not In a few years, it's going to end bad.be great, thanks to the world development.
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... Games Workshop didn't turn back when they made Warhammer 40k 3rd edition, which introduced almost equally big changes and was met very badly at the beginning. They are not going to bend the knee. So don't get your hopes up.
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** This is actually canon. Not all humans like Sigmar. Some decided to say fuck you and joined the ranks of other gods, be they Chaos or not. (Minus Gorkamorka and Horned Rat. Yes, some even joined [[OmnicidalManiac '''NAGASH''' NAGASH out of all people.]]
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** This is actually canon. Not all humans like Sigmar. Some decided to say fuck you and joined the ranks of other gods, be they Chaos or not. (Minus Gorkamorka and Horned Rat. Yes, some even joined [[OmnicidalManiac '''NAGASH''' out of all people.]]
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** The process of creation is completely different. Also, abour Draigo, the Quest of Ghal Maraz books implies that the silver-armored gigant Araloth encountered wasn't him, but a Stormast Eternal (a Hallowed Knight, the ones who looks like Grey Knights). It's not that known, but the warp has an habit to mess with time. People charged aganist GW like about this because the above point, and Matt Ward being the author didn't help, but what they did was a mere Foreshadowing.
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** The process of creation is completely different. Also, abour about Draigo, the Quest of Ghal Maraz books implies that the silver-armored gigant giant Araloth encountered wasn't him, but a Stormast Eternal (a Hallowed Knight, the ones who looks like Grey Knights). It's not that known, but the warp has an habit to mess with time. People charged aganist against GW like about this because the above point, and Matt Ward being the author didn't help, but what they did was a mere Foreshadowing.
** It wouldn't even be significant if they canonically confirmed it was Draigo. The two settings have always been connected through the warp, they just don't mention it as much anymore. Be’lakor hangs out in the 40k setting all the time.
** It wouldn't even be significant if they canonically confirmed it was Draigo. The two settings have always been connected through the warp, they just don't mention it as much anymore. Be’lakor hangs out in the 40k setting all the time.
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** Except that those winds are bound to the Incarnates and no longer connected to chaos. The fabric of reality bends to the Incarnates' wills in their realms, so the chaos gods have no say in it anymore.
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** Except those winds are binded bound to the Incarnates and no longer connected to chaos. The fabric of reality bends to the Incarnates wills in their realms, so the chaos gods have no say in it anymore.
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** Except those winds are binded to the Incarnates and no longer connected to chaos. The fabric of reality bends to the Incarnates wills in their realms, so the chaos gods have no say in it anymore.
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!!There will be a human faction who will call Sigmar on his DesignatedHero thing, and take battle against him.
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!!There will be a human faction who will call Sigmar on his DesignatedHero KnightTemplar thing, and take battle against him.
