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Tzeentch, TheChessmaster, accidentally causes his own death via ForWantOfANail. One of his plans (say, death of the Emperor) inadvertently succeeds, and the sudden stagnation due to his achievement of an ambition kills the lord of eternal continuous evolution.

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Tzeentch, TheChessmaster, accidentally causes his own death via ForWantOfANail.for-want-of-a-nail. One of his plans (say, death of the Emperor) inadvertently succeeds, and the sudden stagnation due to his achievement of an ambition kills the lord of eternal continuous evolution.
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** Slaanesh is fueled by the pleasure and pain of ''all'' sentient life. The Dark Eldar or even the Eldar going extinct doesn't hamper him in the slightest. In fact, killing off both of those species and feasting on their souls is one of his objectives. If Isha could cure Nurgle, she likely would have done so aeons ago. Besides, transition by itself wont kill him. His plagues technically cause the transitions and thus, change, from life to death after all. And Tzeentch doesn't do anything accidentally. Period. And even if they do kill off the Emperor, that doesn't mean that his scheming will be over. The Gods have a hand in everything and the Emperor is small fry. Remember, there are other galaxies, like the ones the Tyranid come from. And seriously? Khorne can hate everyone ''else'' left in the universe. Hell, hatred doesn't need a target anyway. He can hate the emptiness of the universe, himself, ANYTHING. And since Khorne, being the manifestation of rage and bloodthirst ''and'' honourable warriorhood, excellence at arms, etc, etc, etec CAN in fact take some satisfaction from victory. Several instances in the fluff mention him as being pleased with his followers gaining victories or causing a lot of mayhem. And anyway, he's already the TopGod of Chaos and Warhammer in general due to being the most powerful already.

*** Not true about Slaanesh, technically. The extinction of the Eldar will cause the birth of a new Eldar death god, Ynnead, who will kill Slaanesh. That is, of course, with three caveats. First, that there are enough Eldar Souls in the Infinity Circuit. Since lots of soul stones have been destroyed by the Imperium, Necrons, and really just negligence, there may not be enough to summon Ynnead. Second, that Ynnead can kill Slaanesh at all. Given the power of the Harlequins this seems likely, but Slaanesh also can grow in power. Third, that Ynnead actually will be reborn and nothing will screw that up in any major way. And Khorne is not, alone, the strongest of the Chaos gods. You can't even be near Slaanesh or Tzeentch without losing your mind, nor near Nurgle without becoming a zombie. Any being strong enough to kill Slaanesh might be a one-on-one match for Khorne; the mortal Eldar are extremely good duelists, so who can say. The real question is would it be able to bring down Tzeentch -- Tzeentch is the most powerful Chaos god bodily, as Chaos daemons are coagulated psychic pain and Tzeentch is the god of psychic manipulation. Could a resurrected Death God of a warrior race defeat a purely psychic entity?

*** ... No. Khorne is the single most powerful Chaos God in the canon and likely the most powerful entity in both continuities of Warhammer. The official fluff outright states as much. Liber Carnagia outright states that Khorne can emerge victorious from any battle. Secondly, Ynnead being capable of killing Slaanesh is more wishful thinking on the part of the Eldar than anything that is backed by evidence. And in the grand scheme of things, killing Slaanesh isn't really accomplishing anything because he's a flea by the standards of the gods, and yet still powerful enough to annihilate an entire pantheon. I would also emphasize the background of the Masque, who was cursed by Slaanesh after he assumed her dances for him were an insult after he was utterly thrashed by Khorne. So, your idea of Ynnead being able to stand up to Khorne if he kills Slaanesh is also incorrect.

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** * Slaanesh is fueled by the pleasure and pain of ''all'' sentient life. The Dark Eldar or even the Eldar going extinct doesn't hamper him in the slightest. In fact, killing off both of those species and feasting on their souls is one of his objectives. If Isha could cure Nurgle, she likely would have done so aeons ago. Besides, transition by itself wont kill him. His plagues technically cause the transitions and thus, change, from life to death after all. And Tzeentch doesn't do anything accidentally. Period. And even if they do kill off the Emperor, that doesn't mean that his scheming will be over. The Gods have a hand in everything and the Emperor is small fry. Remember, there are other galaxies, like the ones the Tyranid come from. And seriously? Khorne can hate everyone ''else'' left in the universe. Hell, hatred doesn't need a target anyway. He can hate the emptiness of the universe, himself, ANYTHING. And since Khorne, being the manifestation of rage and bloodthirst ''and'' honourable warriorhood, excellence at arms, etc, etc, etec CAN in fact take some satisfaction from victory. Several instances in the fluff mention him as being pleased with his followers gaining victories or causing a lot of mayhem. And anyway, he's already the TopGod of Chaos and Warhammer in general due to being the most powerful already.

*** ** Not true about Slaanesh, technically. The extinction of the Eldar will cause the birth of a new Eldar death god, Ynnead, who will kill Slaanesh. That is, of course, with three caveats. First, that there are enough Eldar Souls in the Infinity Circuit. Since lots of soul stones have been destroyed by the Imperium, Necrons, and really just negligence, there may not be enough to summon Ynnead. Second, that Ynnead can kill Slaanesh at all. Given the power of the Harlequins this seems likely, but Slaanesh also can grow in power. Third, that Ynnead actually will be reborn and nothing will screw that up in any major way. And Khorne is not, alone, the strongest of the Chaos gods. You can't even be near Slaanesh or Tzeentch without losing your mind, nor near Nurgle without becoming a zombie. Any being strong enough to kill Slaanesh might be a one-on-one match for Khorne; the mortal Eldar are extremely good duelists, so who can say. The real question is would it be able to bring down Tzeentch -- Tzeentch is the most powerful Chaos god bodily, as Chaos daemons are coagulated psychic pain and Tzeentch is the god of psychic manipulation. Could a resurrected Death God of a warrior race defeat a purely psychic entity?

*** ...** ... No. Khorne is the single most powerful Chaos God in the canon and likely the most powerful entity in both continuities of Warhammer. The official fluff outright states as much. Liber Carnagia outright states that Khorne can emerge victorious from any battle. Secondly, Ynnead being capable of killing Slaanesh is more wishful thinking on the part of the Eldar than anything that is backed by evidence. And in the grand scheme of things, killing Slaanesh isn't really accomplishing anything because he's a flea by the standards of the gods, and yet still powerful enough to annihilate an entire pantheon. I would also emphasize the background of the Masque, who was cursed by Slaanesh after he assumed her dances for him were an insult after he was utterly thrashed by Khorne. So, your idea of Ynnead being able to stand up to Khorne if he kills Slaanesh is also incorrect.



* Jossed, the 8th edition moved t to the 42nd millennium.

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* Jossed, the 8th edition moved t to the 42nd millennium.



[[WMG: the Squats aren't extinct.]]

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[[WMG: the The Squats aren't extinct.]]




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* '''Confirmed.''' 9th Edition resurrected the Squats as the Leagues of Votann.



The Adeptus Mechanicus are a group of elitist 'players' or 'priests' - the l337 - operators of machines (computers or tanks) who look down upon those who are not knowledgeable about the machines - the n00bs - and value their machines more than the lives of others, or themselves, and wish to incorporate themselves more into these machines - using headsets to chat, implanting hard drives into your spine - and practically worship them.

Also, they absolutely hate any unorthodox or innovative methods of operation as it would make them redundant/put at a disadvantage. For the [=AdMech=], its new machines, for the l337, its hacks/h4x. Offenders are often never given a second chance - by death or by bannage, you will not do that again!

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The Adeptus Mechanicus are a group of elitist 'players' "players" or 'priests' - "priests" -- the l337 - -- operators of machines (computers or tanks) who look down upon those who are not knowledgeable about the machines - -- the n00bs - -- and value their machines more than the lives of others, or themselves, and wish to incorporate themselves more into these machines - -- using headsets to chat, implanting hard drives into your spine - and practically worship them.

Also, they absolutely hate any unorthodox or innovative methods of operation as it would make them redundant/put at a disadvantage. For the [=AdMech=], its new machines, for the l337, its hacks/h4x. Offenders are often never given a second chance - -- by death or by bannage, you will not do that again!



** The only notable exception to this success has been Commander Farsight. Losing his Ethereal was bad enough, but not enough to result in rebellion or regression. Stumbling upon a Necron tomb rendered extinct by continental shift was. Recovering a number of artifacts, including the Dawn Blade, (the remnant of a long-devoured C'tan) a heavily coloured degree of the truth about the origins of the Tau was revealed to Farsight by crude communication with his battlesuit's A.I. Enraged by the "unwarranted puppetry" of the elder races, and the Ethereals in particular, Farsight rebelled to reclaim his race's glorious destiny, taking the Greater Good in an entirely different direction. It is unknown how he has acheived such longevity, but one Eldar Farseer claims that the C'tan the Dawn Blade was part of has found an escape route from the clutches of the Outsider - through Farsight.

[[WMG:The Tau are a chaos breed.]]
Okay, Warpstorms up for most of Tau History. As T'au orbits its sun, it gets closer and further away from the storm.

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** The only notable exception to this success has been Commander Farsight. Losing his Ethereal was bad enough, but not enough to result in rebellion or regression. Stumbling upon a Necron tomb rendered extinct by continental shift was. Recovering a number of artifacts, including the Dawn Blade, (the remnant of a long-devoured C'tan) a heavily coloured degree of the truth about the origins of the Tau was revealed to Farsight by crude communication with his battlesuit's A.I. Enraged by the "unwarranted puppetry" of the elder races, and the Ethereals in particular, Farsight rebelled to reclaim his race's glorious destiny, taking the Greater Good in an entirely different direction. It is unknown how he has acheived such longevity, but one Eldar Farseer claims that the C'tan the Dawn Blade was part of has found an escape route from the clutches of the Outsider - -- through Farsight.

[[WMG:The Tau are a chaos Chaos breed.]]
Okay, Warpstorms up for most of Tau History.history. As T'au orbits its sun, it gets closer and further away from the storm.

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* Hey, if Orks can speak English....
** They can't. That Cockney-speak actually is Orkish.


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* Hey, if Orks can speak English....
** * They can't. That Cockney-speak actually is Orkish.

Orkish.



*** Not true about Slaanesh, technically. The extinction of the Eldar will cause the birth of a new Eldar death god, Ynnead, who will kill Slaanesh. That is, of course, with three caveats. First, that there are enough Eldar Souls in the Infinity Circuit. Since lots of soul stones have been destroyed by the Imperium, Necrons, and really just negligence, there may not be enough to summon Ynnead. Second, that Ynnead can kill Slaanesh at all. Given the power of the Harlequins this seems likely, but Slaanesh also can grow in power. Third, that Ynnead actually will be reborn and nothing will screw that up in any major way. And Khorne is not, alone, the strongest of the Chaos gods. You can't even be near Slaanesh or Tzeentch without losing your mind, nor near Nurgle without becoming a zombie. Any being strong enough to kill Slaanesh might be a one-on-one match for Khorne; the mortal Eldar are extremely good duelists, so who can say. The real question is would it be able to bring down Tzeentch - Tzeentch is the most powerful Chaos god bodily, as Chaos daemons are coagulated psychic pain and Tzeentch is the god of psychic manipulation. Could a resurrected Death God of a warrior race defeat a purely psychic entity?

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*** Not true about Slaanesh, technically. The extinction of the Eldar will cause the birth of a new Eldar death god, Ynnead, who will kill Slaanesh. That is, of course, with three caveats. First, that there are enough Eldar Souls in the Infinity Circuit. Since lots of soul stones have been destroyed by the Imperium, Necrons, and really just negligence, there may not be enough to summon Ynnead. Second, that Ynnead can kill Slaanesh at all. Given the power of the Harlequins this seems likely, but Slaanesh also can grow in power. Third, that Ynnead actually will be reborn and nothing will screw that up in any major way. And Khorne is not, alone, the strongest of the Chaos gods. You can't even be near Slaanesh or Tzeentch without losing your mind, nor near Nurgle without becoming a zombie. Any being strong enough to kill Slaanesh might be a one-on-one match for Khorne; the mortal Eldar are extremely good duelists, so who can say. The real question is would it be able to bring down Tzeentch - -- Tzeentch is the most powerful Chaos god bodily, as Chaos daemons are coagulated psychic pain and Tzeentch is the god of psychic manipulation. Could a resurrected Death God of a warrior race defeat a purely psychic entity?



** He didn't come in the twin tailed comet. The comet merely heralded his natural birth to human parents (ie: happened at he same time). And referencing Mortarion in a book is just that - a reference. Especially considering that WordOfGod has it that they exist in separate universes. (also, Liber Chaotica was written before the two universes were retconned into being separate) And the Emperor's pussified, and worst of all: ''clean shaven'' ass cannot possibly withstand Sigmar's beardy manliness.
** Are you nuts? With a jaw like that? You could shave with The Emperor's jawline. But yeah, ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' being on a lost feudal world in 40,000 used to be canon. Games workshop apparently decided that keeping the two congruent was too difficult. [[UnsoundEffect Shrug.]]

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** * He didn't come in the twin tailed comet. The comet merely heralded his natural birth to human parents (ie: happened at he same time). And referencing Mortarion in a book is just that - -- a reference. Especially considering that WordOfGod has it that they exist in separate universes. (also, Liber Chaotica was written before the two universes were retconned into being separate) And the Emperor's pussified, and worst of all: ''clean shaven'' ass cannot possibly withstand Sigmar's beardy manliness.
** * Are you nuts? With a jaw like that? You could shave with The the Emperor's jawline. But yeah, ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' being on a lost feudal world in 40,000 ''40,000'' used to be canon. Games workshop apparently decided that keeping the two congruent was too difficult. [[UnsoundEffect Shrug.]]



In the original TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}, they were energy sources derived from Chaos that allowed magic. Since warp ressonances already exist in this world, it stands to reason that the Winds exist as well. Pity everyone's being too retarded to make use of them. Everyone using a crapload of Hysh would certainly came in handy.

** In at least two instances something akin to Ghur has been mentioned, so maybe...

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In the original TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}, ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', they were energy sources derived from Chaos that allowed magic. Since warp ressonances already exist in this world, it stands to reason that the Winds exist as well. Pity everyone's being too retarded to make use of them. Everyone using a crapload of Hysh would certainly came in handy.

** * In at least two instances something akin to Ghur has been mentioned, so maybe...




[[WMG: the Squats aren't Extinct.]]

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\n[[WMG: the Squats aren't Extinct.extinct.]]



[[WMG: [=WH40K=] has Tommy Westphall Syndrome]]

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[[WMG: [=WH40K=] ''[=WH40K=]'' has Tommy Westphall Syndrome]]



[[WMG: The 'Binary' used by the Adeptus Mechanicus is, in fact, l337.]]

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[[WMG: The 'Binary' "Binary" used by the Adeptus Mechanicus is, in fact, l337.]]



[[WMG:Jesus is The Emperor.]]

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[[WMG:Jesus is The the Emperor.]]



** The Imperium of Man does sound like the Roman Empire / Holy Roman Empire, concerning Warhammer 40000 had a lot of Latin terms....

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** The Imperium of Man does sound like the Roman Empire / Holy Roman Empire, concerning Warhammer 40000 ''Warhammer 40,000'' had a lot of Latin terms....



[[WMG:Muhammad is The Emperor.]]

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[[WMG:Muhammad is The the Emperor.]]



*** Space Prehistory-Age of Terra and thus 1-16th millennium
*** Space Egypt/Greece/Whatever-Dark Age of Technology aka 16th to 25th millennium
*** Space End of Hellenic Era-Age of Strife aka 25th to 29th millennium
*** Space Rome-30th millennium
*** Collapse of Space Rome-The Horus Heresy, 31st millennium
*** Space Dark Ages aka TabletopGame/Warhammer40000-31st to 42nd millennium
*** Space Middle Ages aka conclusion stage to TabletopGame/Warhammer40000-42nd to 50th millennium
*** Space Renaissance aka theoretical LighterAndSofter sequel-51st millennium
*** Space Exploration Age-52nd to 60th millennium
*** Space Industrial Age-61st to 70th millennium
*** Space World War I, II and Cold War-71st to 80th millennium
*** Space Present Day-81st millennium

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*** Space Prehistory-Age Prehistory -- Age of Terra and thus 1-16th millennium
*** Space Egypt/Greece/Whatever-Dark Egypt/Greece/Whatever -- Dark Age of Technology aka 16th to 25th millennium
*** Space End of Hellenic Era-Age Era -- Age of Strife aka 25th to 29th millennium
*** Space Rome-30th Rome -- 30th millennium
*** Collapse of Space Rome-The Rome -- The Horus Heresy, 31st millennium
*** Space Dark Ages aka TabletopGame/Warhammer40000-31st ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' -- 31st to 42nd millennium
*** Space Middle Ages aka conclusion stage to TabletopGame/Warhammer40000-42nd ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' -- 42nd to 50th millennium
*** Space Renaissance aka theoretical LighterAndSofter sequel-51st sequel -- 51st millennium
*** Space Exploration Age-52nd Age -- 52nd to 60th millennium
*** Space Industrial Age-61st Age -- 61st to 70th millennium
*** Space World War I, II and Cold War-71st War -- 71st to 80th millennium
*** Space Present Day-81st Day -- 81st millennium



[[WMG: It's actually gonna' get worse.]]

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[[WMG: It's actually gonna' gonna get worse.]]







[[WMG:Both The Above Theories About The Tau Are True.]]

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[[WMG:Both The Above Theories About The the above theories about the Tau Are True.are true.]]



[[WMG:The Tau Are A Chaos Breed.]]

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[[WMG:The Tau Are A Chaos Breed.are a chaos breed.]]



* Or perhaps the warp-blankness was always a feature of the Tau, but them not being massacred by the Imperium was Tzeentch's doing... I mean, if you were a Chaos God of change, and you discovered a race of intelligent creatures that had NO presence in the warp (but who were not psychopathic OmnicidalManiac), You'd probably think "Hmmmm, potential for major CHANGE here!" And then, say you realize that those pesky humans are about to exterminate said race of blanks... What would you do? Probably shield them from harm with a Warp Storm, and poke and prod them a little to get them to evolve faster so they could gain the strength to stand against other mortal races by themselves! Which begs the question; what sneaky plan do you have for your this little blue people you have secretly sponsored?

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* Or perhaps the warp-blankness was always a feature of the Tau, but them not being massacred by the Imperium was Tzeentch's doing... I mean, if you were a Chaos God of change, and you discovered a race of intelligent creatures that had NO presence in the warp (but who were not psychopathic OmnicidalManiac), You'd probably think "Hmmmm, potential for major CHANGE here!" And then, say you realize that those pesky humans are about to exterminate said race of blanks... What would you do? Probably shield them from harm with a Warp Storm, and poke and prod them a little to get them to evolve faster so they could gain the strength to stand against other mortal races by themselves! Which begs the question; what sneaky plan do you have for your this little blue people you have secretly sponsored?sponsored?
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