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Khaine obviously held of Slaanesh long enough for Cegorach and a good number of Eldar to escape. Cegorach in turn manipulated Nurgle into saving Isha so she could both invent cures for Nurgle's plagues due to her in depth knowledge of them and so she could serve as a voice in Nurgle's ear. Cegorach also ensured that the fragments of Khaine ended up in of three places: on Craftworlds in the form of avatars to protect the Eldar and the infinity circuit, in Khorne's realm to serve as a Worthy Opponent to the Blood god and his armies, or with Cegorach in the Webway to both serve as a safe place for Khaine's consciousness and as a last defense. All of this is also meant to facilitate Cegorach's overarching plan.

Among the Loyalist legions, the ultramarines are noted as having the purest geneseed. However, it's also been mentioned that Red Scorpion geneseed is even purer than that of the ultramarines. Usually, fans take this as a hint that they were actually made with Fulgrim's geneseed. However, the forgeworld website shows several odd paintjobs among its Horus Heresy-era vehicles, with the Deimos Pattern Predator and Land Raider Armoured Proteus both having red scorpion paintjobs, as well as having prominent II markings where other vehicles of the era have their legion numbers. It's entirely possible that the Red Scorpions weren't made with Fulgrim's geneseed, but are remnants of the second legion. It's been hinted that at least some members of the lost legions survived, and were absorbed into the Ultramarines legion. When the second founding came around, what's to stop the ultramarines from releasing said survivors as their own independent chapter again?

It's been established that traveling through the warp can cause one to be thrown about in time. So, who's to say that didn't happen to one of the primarch babies when they were scattered by the chaos gods? This little kid landed somewhere in central Anatolia in the 8th century BC, was adopted by loving parents, learned to master his powers over the course of the next 300000 years or so, influencing humanity from the shadows all the while. Eventually, he emerged from the shadows, took over the human race, formed the early imperium, and then got the great idea to create more of his own kind in order to help bring order to humanity. Thus he created the twenty primarchs, which were scattered across the warp, [[StableTimeLoop leading to one of them landing somewhere in central Anatolia in the 8th century BC]], and it all starts over again.

The carcharodons are said to come from "the black void of space beyond the farthest reaches of the galaxy", and what animals are most well-known for chasing things out of an area? Sharks.

Note that this isn't expressing my opinions on Abrahamic religions, but rather the canon of Warhammer40000. Khorne came into existence during humanity's Middle Ages, from Terra. What are the most famous wars and conflicts fought about back then? Religious differences. The Crusades, the Inquisition, both Christianity and Islam wholeheartedly believing that SexIsEvil...the darkest aspects of fanatic and zealous warfare germinated into what would eventually become Khorne, easily the opposite of the sensual god Slaanesh. The Imperium, easily the most warmongering factions, [[ChurchMilitant is basically a Catholic dictatorship]] [[KnightTemplar turned to its]] [[ANaziByAnyAnotherName darkest extreme.]] Yahweh started off as the Caananite WarGod and retains that position even today, but Khorne has lost the traits [[GodIsGood which make Him admirable]], with the exception of a sense of honour. Or if you believe GodIsEvil, He may just have become AxCrazy. Also, who do you usually think of as a bastardization or evil counter to God? Satan. And what are the things associated with Satan? Sex and temptation, both aspects of Slaanesh and therefore anathema to Khorne.

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The first Custodes are described as the first genetically and psychologically altered warriors created by the Emperor during the Terran Unification Wars, a descrption which obviouslly fits Thunder Warriors more, unless the first Custodes actually '''were''' Thunder Warrriors. Emperor could take those rare of the Thunder Warriors who weren't suffering from [[AxCrazy violent insanity]] and/or [[TheSociopath psychpathy]], and fix their genetic flaws for them to become Custodes. While the hidden dark truth is that the Emperor ordered execution of all Thunder Warriors, this could be in part a lie, for the Emperor [[JerkassFacade to seem more ruthless than he really was]] to his close underlings. This would line up with [[UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}} Emperor Augustus]] playing up his ruthlessness, as seen with Augustus' FamousLastWords : ''"Have I played my part well in the comedy of life? Then applaud!''.

Another possibility is that Tzeentch/Saim-Hann, was originally a more benevolent entity, but god tainted by the same decadence and moral decay that created Slaanesh, as well as the emotions of humanity during Age of Strife, or possibly even earlier in the violent Middle Ages.

As some sources claim Tzeentch is the oldest among the 4 Chaos Gods, this would also solve the potential problem with Saim-Hann helping in war against C'Tan, as Tzeentch could be old enough to pricipate in it, if he's indeed the oldest of the Chaos Gods.

It was also mentioned that the Chaos Gods were worshipped across the cosmos in more benevolent forms, and some sources claim Tzeentch is the oldest among the 4 Chaos Gods.
It's also possible that Tzeentch/Saim-Hann, was originally a more benevolent entity, but god tainted by the same decadence and moral decay that created Slaanesh, as well as the emotions of humanity during Age of Strife, or possibly even earlier in the violent Middle Ages.

It's also possible that Tzeentch/Saim-Hann, was originally a more benevolent entity, but god tainted by the same decadence and moral decay that created Slaanesh, as well as the emotions of humanity during and after the Dark Age of Technology, or possibly even earlier in the violent Middle Ages.

The Cosmic Serpent is said to know all secrets, past and present, an attribute of Tzeentch. Curiously the name "Saim-Hann", means "enlightenment", and the Craftworld with same name, named themselves after Saim-Hann. Saim-Hann Eldar are also seen as wild and somewhat dangerous by other eldar, being close to what caused the original fall. Both also sound dangerously close to Tzeentchian,or at least Chaotic ideals.

The Cosmic Serpent is said to know all secrets, past and present, an attribute of Tzeentch. Curiously the name "Saim-Hann", means "enlightenment", and the Craftworld with same name, named themselves after Saim-Hann. Saim-Hann Eldar are also seen as wild and somewhat dangerous by other eldar, being close to what caused the original fall. Both also sound dangerously close to Tzeentchian ideas.
It was also mentioned that the Chaos Gods were worshipped across the cosmos in more benevolent forms, and some sources claim Tzeentch is the oldest among the 4 Chaos Gods. It's also possible that Tzeentch/Saim-Hann, was originally a more benevolent entity, but god tainted by the same decadence and moral decay that created Slaanesh, as well as the emotions of humanity during and after the dark ages of technology, or possibly even earlier in the violent Middle Ages.

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* Specifically he was born towards the end of the Age of Strife, a genius and a mutant psyker of great great power but otherwise a regular human who was simply the most cunning and capable of the warlords and who thus 'won'. It was his self experimentation with now lost technology, both created by himself and plundered from his rivals that increased his lifespan and already powerful psychic abilities though without the Golden Throne he would be long dead of old age by the 'present' of the setting. The legend of being tens of thousands of years old and numerous historic figures was always a fabrication, designed to cement his cult of personality after crushing his rivals.

* And finally, the Tau are Pride. Sure, they have the innovation tradition that the slothful Imperium lacks, but then again, they were confident that they had the best philosophy to apply to the universe, and if anybody refused to accept the Greater Good, they committed orbital bombardment and mass brainwashing. Other wiser races, such as the Imperium and Eldar, often engage in deconstructing the Tau's idealistic philosophy.

However if you include this backstory (which I'm calling 40k 0th edition) into current Warhammer canon it shows that in reality the great Emperor of Man never really existed and was only a monumental piece of propaganda created by the High Lords of Terra either to terrify or inspire the common Imperium citizenry into a fanatical devotion to the racist lords of Terra and to the common ideal of [[ManifestDestiny "Imperialism"]] itself.