History WMG / VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines

*** Fridge Brilliance the PC of the game has and doesn't has the clan weakness, allow me to elaborate compared to most of their respective clans the PC seems to be the less affected by Caine's punishment, the malkavian character is able to communicate, the brujah isn't exploding in an outburst every other minute, the tremeres and toreadors are distracted that easily, the gangrel have a more direct contact with their own inner beast, the nosferatu PC dint got horribly disfigured compared to other nosferatus, this made me think that the PC needed to be cursed to be the "spanner in the works and wildcard" of Caine, but unlike the original curses he imposed out of rage and disgust he toned down the one that affects the character you select of the PC game, an alternative is that he diminished it.

* Vandal, owned by Therese, does not seem to have volunteered to become a Ghoul by how bitter he is but then again, he might have tried to [[AcceptableTargets rape/kill]] her so...

You start off as the standard weak childe, but by the end of the game, you are a 'roided out force of nature. By the end of the game, you have crushed far older vampires, destroyed demons, annihilated and entire order of hunters,massacred ancient Kui Jin, and generally left a trail of destruction thirty feet wide all over LA. The answer to this is that Caine turned you rather than your "sire." After turning you, he set you in bed with your sire as a set up, then watched the ensuing chaos as a brand new second generation vampire ran around.
* A fan theory is that Caine sired you /for/ Jack because he approved of Jack's scheme. In the official continuity this is jossed becoz the Caine who hangs out with Jack is actually a malk, but the game continuity differs from the mainline continuity (esp. w/r/t LA politics) enough that they're probably separate continuities.

* If you want to compare the game to how the [=PnP=] game works, there's already in-game proof that your character is much less removed from Caine than anyone else in town; no 13th generation vampire has fifteen bloodpoints. This would put you at 8th generation, which gels well with the fact that [=LaCroix=] can't dominate you; most Princes are usually 8th or 9th generation. It also makes Jeanette/Therese ''really freaking scary.'' Go on, play a Ventrue and try to dominate Therese. See what happens.

* Not to disagree, I'm just going to point out that Murcurio, Knox, and Romero aren't ''your'' Ghouls. Heather '''is.''' And with that blood bond, of course she's going to act different around ''you.'' Also, those three are blood bonded to kindred far older and more experienced than you. They might know a bit more about how to give Ghouls more freedom that you, who was newly turned merely a few nights to a few weeks ago, don't really know about. No one gives the PC a crash course in "How to Care for Ghouls" despite how interesting it would be. It could be a combination of factors, including them becoming more sane like you said.

This might even mean that Therease (a crazy, split personality Malkavian) might have been genuinely interested in hosting Charity Events because Vandal, perhaps under her orders, drains victims dry in the blood clinic.

* His/her mental instability could easily be "idee fixe that he/she can communicate only through lunatic poetry".
* Better idea: the Malk PC is fucking with '''you'''. This would explain his MindScrew PurpleProse SesquipedalianLoquaciousness and the "Tell the the guy playing me" answer to Beckett.

* A fan theoryis that Caine sired you /for/ Jack because he approved of Jack's scheme. In the official continuity this is jossed becoz the Caine who hangs out with Jack is actually a malk, but the game continuity differs from the mainline continuity (esp. w/r/t LA politics) enough that they're probably separate continuities.

** If you try to reject some of the main storyline missions given to you by [=LaCroix=], [[ButThouMust he WILL dominate you into doing them anyway]] quite successfully. This, along with remarks given by the Tzimitze boss when you battle him at the Hallowbrook Hotel, suggest you actually jump up a few generations at some point.

*** Assuming the cab-driver is Caine, perhaps he gives the PC a power boost. The tabletop games say that he has Main/NewPowersAsThePlotDemands.

** One fan theory involves the player diablerising vampires at some point after Jack explains it to you; I remember someone suggesting the Chang brothers, but there are a few different opportunities for it to happen.
*** It can't be the Chang Brothers. Apart from the fact that taking down two experienced Kuei-Jin is already pretty badass, Kindred cannot diablerise Kuei-Jin, only other Kindred. Also it's unlikely that the PC is diablerising, because doing so leaves an obvious mark in one's aura. Any vampire with Auspex would see it and you'd end up hunted down long before Griffith Park.

* On another note, the ostensibly five dot Protean ability to turn into a man/wolf hybrid? It's actually a ''seven'' dot ability in the [=PnP=] game, requiring one to be of ''sixth'' generation or lower to learn. Hardestadt The Younger, the current leader of the Camarilla is of the sixth generaation.
** AcceptableBreaksFromCanon: If disciplines were exactly as they were in the [=PnP=], Fortitude would be automatically turned on whenever you got hit, Dominate would solve literally every human encounter, the Nosferatu dynamic would be pointless because you can disguise yourself as a normal person with only 3 dots in Obfuscate, Thaumaturgy would be nowhere as useful, and Auspex would break most of the plot (you would be able to know when someone lied to you).

* As the events of the game are loosely referenced in ''Gehenna: The Final Nights'' but no further mention is made of the player character, it's very likely that he or she is either killed shortly afterwards or drops completely off the map, either of which would gel neatly with this theory. The Camarilla ending of backing Strauss as Prince is jossed, anyway.

** Possible, but not invitable. LA became the first Anarch Free State in 1944 and stayed as a city of free Kindred with no-one in charge (except of small areas, like Issac) until the Kuei Jin invaded in the late 1990s. If they do HeWhoFightsMonsters it will take a couple of centuries or so. And the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness doesn't ''have'' a couple of centuries...
*** The Anarchs, and Brujah in general, have a loooong history of wrestling control of major cities away from the "oppressors" and then letting it all go to shit within a few decades before the Camarilla rolls back in and mops up without much resistance. Los Angeles was a success story as Anarch-claimed territories come, which is presumably the main reason the Camarilla sent Lacroix to keep a token presence in the city instead of seriously trying to reclaim it.

[[WMG: Part of the reason why Malkavians are so nutty is they have a tendancy to Embrace lunatics in the same way Ventrue go for the rich and powerful. Possibly even with "guidance" from their primogen Malkav.]]

* Unlikely. Nines wouldn't sit and do nothing if a friend was being executed by the Cams. Nines probably didn't even know the Player's supposed sire. It was just some weird show with the Cams executing someone (one of their own even? sick bastards) as a weird show of strength. Picking on the weak though (you in this case)...Nines objects to that.

[[WMG: The Voermon Twins' Derangement Is NOT Multiple Personalities.]]

[[WMG: Gehenna occurs approximately fifteen minutes after the game ends]]

*** Actually most people would think "Fake." And the Camarilla, the smarter Sabbat Elders, the Technocracy and a half dozen others would do everything in their considerable power to back that up. Helped, of course, by the fact that it's a few blocks from Holywood.

[[WMG: Mitnick was a mage prior to his embrace]]

[[WMG:Caine Sired your Sire making you an Andeluvian]]

[[WMG: L.A. Is a dumping ground for the undesirables of every vampire organization]]

[[WMG: There really was a vampire elder, perhaps even an antediluvian, in the Ankaran sarcophagus: YOU.]]

[[WMG: Isaac Abrams is an agent of the Camarilla, sent to keep the Anarchs in line]]

[[WMG: Messerach was a Ghoul]]

[[WMG: Mr. Ox is a Euthanatos Mage]]

[[WMG: Lilly could take control of the whole city, if she wanted]]

[[WMG: Ash Rivers is a thin blood]]

[[WMG: Jeanette/Therese is Babydoll from Sucker Punch]]
She looks the part, and the backstory fits, too. An abusive father figure who had to be killed (even if she falied in that part), a sister who was accidentally shot instead, being stuck into insane asylum and "separated" from her sister afterwards, trying to make sense of what happened to her and getting trapped in her fantasies instead (then arguably getting free)... really, one can easily imagine that The Kind Man saw her potential and Ebmraced her instead of performing lobotomy, then dementated the rest of clinic staff to think that the ending of the movie happened instead.

[[WMG: Theories regarding the protagonist's journey, origin, power level and decisions]]

* Isaac Abrams financed a big part of ''[[Film/TheMatrix the Matrix]]'''s budget, and [[ExecutiveMeddling had the writers put in a parody of Strauss]]. Unfortunately, the production got away from him when he wasn't paying attention, and Morpheus wound up being a badass that made Strauss look ''good''. Strauss is still smug about it, especially when young fledglings "recognise" him.

* In real life, obviously the clan name and appearance was inspired by the 1922 film, but there are some implications that the film exists in the World Of Darkness too. Namely, the name of the Nosferatu network "[=SchreckNet=]", clearly a {{Shoutout}} to the actor who played Count Orlok, Max Schreck. With that in mind, perhaps the name "Nosferatu" has existed for centuries, brought into the limelight when a vampire or ghoul involved in the German filmmaking community at the time suggested it as a joke to the creators of the original film.

[[WMG: Nines is pretty high-generation, but doesn't know it.]]

* The PC, who is unexpectedly high generation (being generation 8), was only able to stand up against the werewolf by running or crushing it in hydraulic doors. While he may be the (second) oldest Anarch in LA, Nines is still not actually ''that old'' as far as vampires go, and thus likely isn't yet a master of all of his disciplines yet. Being a Brujah would have given him an edge over most kindred in a fight against a werewolf, but for him to be able to take one down one-on-one is still a tremendous feat and it suggests he's actually quite powerful. On top of that, Jack mentions Nines was also left sireless as a fledgling, making it probable that he doesn't even know his generation. That, combined with the fact that he has no stated canon generation, makes it entirely possible he's unknowingly high generation--perhaps even able to contend with the player, most Camarilla Princes, or even Therese in that regard.

* There is an interview with one of the writers where he says he researched how split personalities develop in real life, and applied that to Jeanette/Therese: She created the other personality to help cope with her father's sexual abuse, and becoming a Malkavian turned that fracture in her mind UpToEleven. As for the painting, I figured it was something she commissioned more recently to help reinforce the split.

*** Pretty sure [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer it's been done]] [[Series/{{Angel}} a lot.]] [[Series/{{Moonlight}} Over and over.]] [[Series/BloodTies Like, seriously.]] [[Series/ForeverKnight How is that not a specific trope yet?]]

** Generation doesn't necessarily always dictate Thinbloodedness; Jack, a tenth generation Brujah, had a childe that was a Thinblood because she had been dead too long due to drowning by the time he Embraced her. Given that Ash Rivers overdosed, it's totally plausible that the exact same thing happened with Ash -- that Isaac got to him quickly enough to Embrace him, but not quickly enough to make him a full vampire, despite being lower generation than most Thinbloods.

* In real life, obviously the clan name and appearance was inspired by the 1922 film, but there are some implications that the film exists in the World Of Darkness too. Namely, the name of the Nosferatu network "[=SchreckNet=]", clearly a {{Shoutout}} to the actor who played Count Orlok, Max Schreck. With that in mind, perhaps the name "Nosferatu" has existed for centuries, brought into the limelight when a vampire or ghoul involved in the German filmmaking community at the time suggested it as a joke to the creators of the original film.

** It also explains why Strauss is so careful about admitting his own reservations about [=LaCroix=]'s rule. If your sire was openly critical about [=LaCroix=] and wound up dead for it, his own hide was also a potential liability, given that he too is an obvious qualifier for Prince of LA.

* Okay so, first of all, [=LaCroix=]'s dialogue in the opening pretty cut and dry suggests that your sire was Camarilla. The player is additionally an eighth-generation vampire, which makes your sire a 7th generation. Camarilla Princes tend to fall into those generations or lower, meaning your sire is could have potentially qualified for the position. Moreover, one of the biggest mysteries about your sire is how on earth [=LaCroix=] found out about them siring you so quickly. This theory answers this: [=LaCroix=] had your sire under surveillance, either to keep track of their politicking or to find an excuse to get rid of them. Like Grout, Nines and eventually you, perhaps your sire was the first "obstacle" in [=LaCroix=]'s path to power that he had to eliminate. It would certainly explain why he seemed so smug when he had them executed.