History WMG / TsubasaReservoirChronicle

Did you read the xxxHolic chapter where he appears? It appears he has made no progress whatsoever and he doesn't even ask Watanuki about it.

[[WMG: Tsubasa/XXX-holic is Clow Reed/Watanuki's home timeline, which he (and its heroes) erase every time it shows up.]]

At the end of XXX-holic Watanuki is set up to become Clow or Fei Wong Reed, and can now travel time to create the original Cardcaptor Sakura continuity. Also, the hundred-year timeskip from XXX-holic seems to suggest that the Acid Tokyo (and consequently) Clow Kingdom continuities also do not occur.

** Jossed: The person FWR wants is ''xxx-Holic's'' Yuuko, or at least someone with her body or something. Meaning...

** It's been shown a few times that that logical order of things has started to break down, what with the group traveling through time in Shara, Clow Kingdom being the future of Acid Tokyo, and also with [[spoiler: Kohane]] in Manga/XxxHOLiC, who received her powers from one of Sakura's feathers years before the TRC group first showed up in Yuuko's shop. Given that Watanuki is an anomaly in the first place, it's not too much of a stretch to say he could get yanked through time by the wish that created him in the first place.

*** I say not subverted. Yuuko worked their to grant her wish, just as Watanuki was doing at the start of Manga/XxxHOLiC. [[spoiler:She's gone but the shop isn't, the shop isn't dependent on Yuuko's existence. There's still storing/trading that needs to be done, Watanuki just got promoted to manager.]]

* This is probably a fact and not just WMG. In fact, in a CrowningMomentOfFunny, now that both [[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle Tsubasa]] & [[Manga/XxxHOLiC the Holic]] have ended, even WordOfGod has admitted that '''they too are rather confused over how everything turned out and want to re-read it'''.

* Oops, already on Manga/XxxHOLiC WMG page.

[[WMG: The egg from Manga/XxxHOLiC will be used on Fei Wong Reed]]

Either way, someone's got to explain the past several chapters and Fei Wong Reed's real wish, and Doumeki may just be the calmest one to do so. This could lead either to a classic CLAMP yaoi ending of "destined to be enemies" or to a change of their usual pattern and an ending of forgiveness and understanding on the part of everyone. Both Manga/XxxHOLiC and Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle are full of both classic CLAMP and subversions, so either possibility is just as likely.

* With [[spoiler: all the major players - Yuuko, Clow, and FWR - seemingly ''dead'']] we need someone to explain this mess. It would ''have'' to be on the Manga/XxxHOLiC side of things, since TRC is way to busy at this point. It will likely be Eriol. There's a decent chunk of Clow's memory alive in Eriol Hiragizawa, who by process of elimination is the only one left to explain things. Unless spirits show up, in which case the ball is still in Yuko's court.

One eye, dark hair, intimate knowledge of Syaoran's past, present, and possibly future? Does his best work in the world of dreams? The immortal twin characters that he's after explicitly fail to match the continuity that he's ''supposed'' to be from? Sounds like we've got our man. A bit of ensoulment, a visage copy spell, and a pact-switch later would account for everything, though I highly doubt that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent the twins]] are actually [[Manga/XxxHOLiC the twins]].

* They may not start any new projects, but they've already stated in interviews that they plan to finish LegalDrug, and may or may not finish [[Manga/{{X1999}} X]].

[[WMG: Syaoran and Sakura are breeds of {{Pokemon}}]]

[[WMG: VicMignogna is trolling the Tsubasa fandom and the [[YaoiFangirl YaoiFangirls]].]]

* This is probably a fact and not just WMG. In fact, in a CrowningMomentOfFunny, now that both [[TsubasaReservoirChronicle Tsubasa]] & [[Manga/XxxHOLiC the Holic]] have ended, even WordOfGod has admitted that '''they too are rather confused over how everything turned out and want to re-read it'''.

Either way, someone's got to explain the past several chapters and Fei Wong Reed's real wish, and Doumeki may just be the calmest one to do so. This could lead either to a classic CLAMP yaoi ending of "destined to be enemies" or to a change of their usual pattern and an ending of forgiveness and understanding on the part of everyone. Both Manga/XxxHOLiC and TsubasaReservoirChronicle are full of both classic CLAMP and subversions, so either possibility is just as likely.

[[WMG: R!Syaoran isn't C!Syaoran and C!Sacura's son]]

First things first: It's an unwritten rule at CLAMP that ''nobody'' that uses glasses is a normal person. Ever. Second: She looks like a loli Fuu from Rayearth (but with slightly darker hair), but this is unrelated... ''For now''. Third: That girl is one hell of a GenreSavvy to not know what she's doing, even when she used that Clow Card (I believe that wasn't an accident, and with this card, she actually triggered all the complicated plot just to... Perhaps fix something?) Also, she wasn't exactly noticed as a non-magic user even by Kerberos, which would mean that she had something going behind the curtains. Fuu in the Rayearth universe controls wind, a really strange element by nature (even when being gentle, just like a God's nature), despite being extremely shy; such element would fit better to Naoko, thus, making Fuu's personality a [[BewareTheNiceOnes disguise]]. Of course, you might think that Naoko is a ShoutOut to another shoujo mangaka, but then, such mangaka had [[Manga/SailorMoon the main character in her most famous work inspired in herself, and having the power to change the whole Universe]], making such name fit for a Goddess... Perhaps CLAMP was giving a hint on how contrived and complicated was going to be their plot since Manga/CardcaptorSakura? Either way, I think Naoko is Fuu, and, in turn, is [=CLAMPverse=]'s God. C'mon, CLAMP can't show a bespectacled person appearing as one of the main characters close acquaintances and throw such person away to the pit of forgetfulness for nothing!
* Alternatively, she's just an exception to the rule, and/or just Fuu's mom. Poor girl, it's due to being DangerouslyGenreSavvy (not to a villain point, but to a Haruhi-esque one) that condemned her to being powerless. If she had powers, it would be frightening.

[[WMG:Fay will become the [[OnePiece Pirate King]]]]

[[WMG:Alternatively - Fay is one of [[OnePiece Luffy's ancestors AND of the Pirate King at the same time]]]].

[[WMG: The Seishiro of ''Tsubasa'' is not the one from ''TokyoBabylon'', but rather...[[spoiler: Watanuki]] in disguise.]]

We've already seen that genetics can't possibly be identical across all variations because a) the reincarnation of Clone!Syaoran and Tsubasa!Syaoran can't be genetically identical because of the fact that Tsubasa has DNA from his mother b) Tsubasa!Syaoran and Watanuki look nothing alike despite being the same existance and c) Vampire!Kamui was born as Vampire!Subaru's twin when they didn't share any genetics in X/1999. The fact that the clones were made from the two Tsubasas doesn't mean anything genetically because they probably weren't reincarnated into genetically identical bodies. This could also mean that Tsubasa!Sakura might not be genetically identical to the reincarnation Clone!Sakura, which mean's Tsubasa!Syaoran might not be romancing his alternate universe mother's body (just her soul...but since he share's his father's soul that makes it less weird!).

We've already seen that genetics can't possibly be identical across all variations because a) the reincarnation of Clone!Syaoran and Tsubasa!Syaoran can't be genetically identical because of the fact that Tsubasa has DNA from his mother b) Tsubasa!Syaoran and Watanuki look nothing alike despite being the same existance and c) Vampire!Kamui was born as Vampire!Subaru's twin when they didn't share any genetics in X/1999. The fact that the clones were made from the two Tsubasas doesn't mean anything genetically because they probably weren't reincarnated into genetically identical bodies. This could also mean that Tsubasa!Sakura (and Clow Country's Touya) might not be genetically identical to Clone!Sakura and her brother (although we know that Tsubasa!Sakura is probably genetically identical to CCS!Sakura as she was born to Fujitaka and Nadeshiko, we don't know anything about the reincarnated Sakura's parents-they could be completely different people or different bodies with the same souls as Fujitaka and Nadeshiko). This means that Tsubasa!Sakura might be completely different from Tsubasa!Syaoran's mother except for the soul (and since he shares a soul with his father and soulmates are a thing in the CLAMP multiverse this makes their romance slightly less weird!).

** All [[strike:God]] [[strike:[[SuzumiyaHaruhi Haruhi]]]] [[strike:Naoko]] Mokona's work. [[spoiler:S/he wants the verse to collapse and restart a new, since something there is really wrong...]]

[[WMG: Creator/{{CLAMP}} is just making everything up as they go along]]

* He's being manipulated by the CLAMP Goddess herself. She planned all of this to restore reality without people noticing, so, she schemed to try and make all the convoluted schemes that happened; if the world ended silently, nobody would really notice. In other words, it's [[MagicKnightRayearth Mokona's]] fault. She decided she had to be more subtle after the machinations of Magic Knights Rayearth failed to destroy anything. She went a little overboard on the subtlety and complexity this time. However, Soel and Larg, aka White Mokona Clone and Black Mokona Clone, are innocent.

[[WMG: Clone Sakura was a [[MagicKnightRayearth Magic Knight]]]]

That said, the timeloop regarding them still applies so other than adressing the awkward biology problem, this idea doesn't reduce the Mind Screw much. Thought I'd mention it though.

[[WMG: Fei Wong Reed is an accidental construct of Clow Reeds.]]
Okay, so when [[spoiler:Yuuko was dying/dead, Clow made an unconscious wish that she would open her eyes again/not die,]] and because he's the "Greatest Magician in the Worlds" [[spoiler:his magic reacted and stopped Yuuko's time to try and grant the wish.]] But that wasn't what he actually wished for, and magic isn't sentient and couldn't reason out a way to [[spoiler:completely break a fundamental law of space-time]] so it created Fei Wong Reed, a thinking being, to do it instead.

[[WMG: Whoever set up the massive XanatosRoulette knew that Tokyo-Syoran would romance his {{Elseworlds}} mother and planned accordingly.]]

*** Apparently not Jossed. [[spoiler: If 217 is any indication, he's the son of an alternative universe of Sakura... who's borrowing powers from the real [[=CCS=]] Sakura... what the ''hell'' CLAMP?]]
**** [[spoiler: The translation I read had Kinomoto Sakura claimed that the other "her" came in a dream. It could be her own subconsciousness essentially telling her, "Look. You don't actually need your staff to kick Ass-chin's butt. Go to him with your hubby and do a MamaBear/ PapaWolf combo to teach him a lesson.]] Remember: Which dream sequence in ANY series drawn by CLAMP has NOT been a MindScrew?
***** Jossed as of Ch. 223: [[spoiler:The reincarnations of C!Sakura and C!Syaoran realize that they're R!Syaoran's parents.]]

I mean, considering what else has happened, this is downright plausible.
* He's being manipulated... ''by his own [[AC: Evil Twin / Clone / Perfect Replica!]]''

* A favourite crack theory of my Nakama and me is that FWR is actually being manipulated by his ''monocle'', in for demonic possession twist in the plot. And that if he's defeated without it breaking, the monocle will then possess ''Sakura'' instead. The chapter breaks leave us with enough time that we really do start pulling theories out of our asses to amuse ourselves before the next reveal/tear jerker/beyond the impossible moment comes along.
* He's being manipulated by the CLAMP Goddess herself. She planned all of this to restore reality without people noticing, so, she schemed to a BigBad to try and make all the convoluted schemes that happened; if the world ended silently, nobody would really notice.
** So it's all [[MagicKnightRayearth Mokona's]] fault?
*** Yes. She decided she had to be more subtle after the machinations of Magic Knights Rayearth failed to destroy anything. She went a little overboard on the subtlety and complexity this time.
*** Soel and Larg, aka White Mokona Clone and Black Mokona Clone, are innocent, however.

He made it after he already tried most of the rest of fiction in existence, at which point he was a bit... confused. He was starting to get homesick, which is why everything is so mysterious and confusing- the poor guy's life was so bad, a bunch of mysterious assholes with Main/XanatosRoulettes is to him what Grandma's Chicken Soup is to the average person. Clones and evil twins feature heavily as reflections of his memory of the Rei clones, and the Syaoran-Sakura Theatre/OedipusRex bit is the reflection of his own crush on Rei. As in Manga/CardcaptorSakura, however, the Main/YaoiGuys weren't part of the plan. It just happens sometimes.

** Is it a bad thing that I really, really want this to be true?
** I'd say it was Mokona who's tripping, actually.

'''HEAVY-DUTY SPOILERS.''' In the latest manga chapter, Yuuko reveals that in exchange for R!Syaoran's wish to return to that moment in Clow Country, Watanuki will be given to R!Syaoran's parents - who are Sakura and Syaoran from CCS - as a replacement son. However, Yuuko's lying. The people R!Syaoran called his parents are nothing of the sort. R!Syaoran, the hero of the story, is actually the proper Syaoran for Clow Country - just as there's one Touya, Yukito, etc. for every world, so there's one Syaoran, and the Clow Country Syaoran ended up in CCS Tokyo by [[strike: mistake]] XanatosRoulette. CCS Sakura and Syaoran, much older than Clow Country Syaoran at the time, took care of him until he was old enough to leave for his real home country, at which point they accepted Watanuki into their care (possibly they have some ongoing deal with Yuuko, to care for any stray orphans she might accumulate)

** Don't think so. See above.

Characters from every one of their previous works; an entire casino full of {{Xanatos Roulette}}s; {{Mind Screw}}s all over the place? Clearly this entire series is one gigantic GrandFinale, and one suffering from TrippyFinaleSyndrome, at that.
* Except Wish. Wish is the only series yet to be crossed over. Make of that what you will...
** Didn't they sort-of disown Wish when they had to change the ending? They were originally going to leave it out of Clamp in Wonderland 2 after all. There are also a couple of one shots that I don't think have been crossed over.
**** It still bugs me, though... Besides, Wish is actually one of my favorite CLAMP manga, behind CCS and TRC. It'd be nice to see it crossed over...
* Yes and no. They may not start any new projects, but they've already stated in interviews that they plan to finish LegalDrug, and may or may not finish [[Manga/{{X1999}} X]].

** Now that I think about that, Watanuki does look ''a lot'' like a short-haired Clow, even more than like Shaoran. Oh, the paradoxes! *Head spins*
**** For that matter, so does [[TheDragon Kyle Rondart]].

The reason FWR has committed all these sins against everyone and even the multiverse itself is simply because he loves his mother too much. FWR is Yuuko and Clow's son See, Clow attempted to avert Yuuko's death but didn't succeed completely, he only managed to reject Yuuko's entry to the Dead's Dimension by having the entire multiverse reject her, perhaps he balked at the great consequences of what he was going to do and balked fatally. But FWR has no such qualms and completes it by creating this XanatosRoulette to get the necessary ingredients to decisively revive Yuuko.
* Taking consideration it's CLAMP, it makes perfect sense. Although it makes my "Naoko is Goddess and wants to rebuild the entire thing" theory get even more complicated to explain... Well, it's CLAMP, of course it'd give space for both theories.

As of 223 the timeline seems to have gone from stable time loop into a stable mobius strip: C!Sayoran and C!Sakura are given chances at a new life. They find each other and give birth to TRC!Sayoran. TRC!Sayoran jumps across time and space to meet TRC!Sakura. From here, the clones are made by FWR to recreate the universe as part of his grand scheme. The clones will/did, thanks to Yuki and Clow, created the CCS universe are part of the Xanatos Gambit.

* Given that the results of her machinations had a direct impact on events that ''were'' being manipulated by the other three Chessmasters, [[MindScrew this means that her machinations were part of Clow's plan despite his inability to know what she would need to do. Or Possibly that she somehow managed to retroactively manipulate Clow and Yuko]].
* I'd try to figure out specifics of what was who's machination and how that machination was influenced by the other gambits, but now I have a headache just thinking about it.

The weird cloney reincarnation thing means it might actually be Syaoran though.
*** As of Epilogue: Freaking called it! Though I thought it would be Sakura or Syaoran, not both. Yes I posted that sentence twice, it was me in both theories.

[[WMG: Fei Wong Reed Went Through This Entire Gambit...]]
...because he actually ''read'' the entire saga of TRC. He is, in reality, a fan of Creator/{{CLAMP}} in our time, but has extreme magical powers. It found it too confusing, and as he got older and his abilities matured, Reed transferred himself back in time and into the Tsubasa Universe in order to straighten it up.

Because honestly, at this point? I wouldn't be surprised and it makes some sense. Some.

Here's the plan; Doumeki will make a wish - hopefully, to stay by Watanuki in the shop... {{squee}}! - and the price will be the egg. Tomoyo will wish to save the Sakuras, and will hand over her Moon Bell to Watanuki in exchange for the egg. She will then get Fuuma to deliver it to her alternate self in Piffle, who has conveniently just discovered the method to cross dimensions, who will go to Clow and deliver it to Kurogane.

Either way, someone's got to explain the past several chapters and Fei Wong Reed's real wish, and Doumeki may just be the calmest one to do so. This could lead either to a classic CLAMP yaoi ending of "destined to be enemies" or to a subversion of their usual pattern and an ending of forgiveness and understanding on the part of everyone. Both Manga/XxxHOLiC and TsubasaReservoirChronicle are full of both classic CLAMP and subversions, so either possibility is just as likely. Of course, I would prefer a happy ending with Douwata... but still, knowing CLAMP...

* Well now, with [[spoiler: all the major players - Yuuko, Clow, and FWR - seemingly ''dead'']], I really hope someone will explain all the stuff thats been going on. It would ''have'' to be on the Manga/XxxHOLiC side of things, since TRC is way to busy at this point. Please, ''please'', ''PLEASE'', CLAMP!!!
** Clow ''isn't'' dead, though. At least, not in the sense of wholly gone. There's a decent chunk of his memory alive in Eriol Hiragizawa, who by process of elimination is the only one left to explain things. Unless spirits show up, in which case the ball is still in Yuko's court.

[[WMG: Clow impregnated multiple versions of the same woman as part of his XanatosRoulette]]
* As everyone knows, CCS Syaoran Li is supposed to be a direct blood descendant of Clow Reed. R!Syaoran from Tsubasa is also referred to several times in the series by both Yuko and FWR as being a blood descendant of Clow Reed. Since the manga series imply that there is only ONE Clow Reed in existence, there is only one logical explanation as to how two Syaoran Li's from two different parallel universes could BOTH be blood decendants of Clow; Clow Reed purposefully impregnated the same woman in multiple worlds, for the specific purpose of establishing a blood lineage that would eventually lead to the birth of Syaoran Li, an indispensable player in Clow's plans. Which just adds another bizarre layer onto the already crazy complicated XanatosRoulette that this series has going.

[[WMG: The Seishiro of ''Tsubasa'' is not the one from ''TokyoBabylon'', but rather...]]
[[spoiler: Watanuki]] in disguise. One eye, dark hair, intimate knowledge of Syaoran's past, present, and possibly future? Does his best work in the world of dreams? The immortal twin characters that he's after explicitly fail to match the continuity that he's ''supposed'' to be from? Sounds like we've got our man. A bit of ensoulment, a visage copy spell, and a pact-switch later would account for everything, though I highly doubt that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent the twins]] are actually [[Manga/XxxHOLiC the twins]].

When R!Syaoran turned back time, it had some signifigant effects on the timelines; in Clow world, for isntance, Nadeshiko disappeared and Fujitaka became an acheologist instead of the king. In the same way, when R!Syaoran turned back time, it retconned his own world...into the CCS timeline. The reincarnated Clone Sakura and Syaoran no longer have their memories of their adventures during Tsubasa, and therefore the events leading to their eventual meeting and marriage are different, which in turn ensures that the boy born to them is not the same Syaoran as the one from the first timeline, explaining exactly why Watanuki came into exisitence in the first place. Of course, eventually, through magic or contact with Yuuko, CCS Sakura and Syaoran regain their memories of the Tsubasa events and their own pre-altered timeline. CCS Sakura visits herself in the pre-altered timeline in a dream and gives herself the Star wand, ensuring the continued maintenance of the stable timeloop.

* Look at the comments he's made. Can you think of any better way to incite the fury of a thousand message boards? And who likes to incite the fury of a thousand message boards? [[{{Troll}} Trolls.]] It's as if each and every comment were carefully designed, nay, crafted, to elicit these responses!

[[WMG: Syaoran and Sakura are actually breeds of {{Pokemon}}]]

Obviously, the Syaoran and Sakura we're seeing here are ''only their souls.'' That would explain how they could change appearance, how they could fit in that jar in the first place, and why they could only maintain their forms independently for a short time after the final battle without relying on the support of physical bodies very similar to theirs.
* If this is true, Touya is going to get an unpleasant surprise when he walks into that room in answer to Sakura's note...