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20th Jul '17 11:29:51 AM Allronix
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* Perhaps the real threat (which probably evaded the writers) is this; Yes, Clu gets out. He's ultimately beaten back, but not before he's caused several thousand casualties. This blows the whole masquerade about the digital world open. You think cyber-warfare and internet crime is ugly in the real world? Just think of how much worse it would be in the setting of that film! This is also assuming we wouldn't collectively burn our computers and every program on them down to Ada Lovelace's punchcards so that it never happens again.
7th Apr '17 4:54:31 PM nombretomado
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Sometime between Flynn's vanishing act and the events of 2.0, F-Con (Dillinger Sr.) acquired a lot of what should have been proprietary information about the laser. Did Flynn's "in case I vanish" notes and letter get stolen as an act of corporate espionage? Worse, you need to have access to a phone line to contact a pager. So, where did Clu score a modem? There are also the matters of Datawraiths and F-Con personnel (Crown, Popoff, and Baza) who were never retrieved from the system. Top it off with the lock in the arcade basement. The key in the lock was far too shiny to have been sitting there since 1989; someone else had access. Did Clu have some [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog "friends on the other side?"]]

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Sometime between Flynn's vanishing act and the events of 2.0, F-Con (Dillinger Sr.) acquired a lot of what should have been proprietary information about the laser. Did Flynn's "in case I vanish" notes and letter get stolen as an act of corporate espionage? Worse, you need to have access to a phone line to contact a pager. So, where did Clu score a modem? There are also the matters of Datawraiths and F-Con personnel (Crown, Popoff, and Baza) who were never retrieved from the system. Top it off with the lock in the arcade basement. The key in the lock was far too shiny to have been sitting there since 1989; someone else had access. Did Clu have some [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog "friends on the other side?"]]
23rd Mar '17 11:20:08 AM DracoKanji
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\n* Quorra is only really indirectly related to Sam by the fact that she was created as a byproduct of the system his father made. That Flynn took her under his wing is more akin to a teacher/apprentice relationship, or possibly adoption since he didn't start acting like all of the [=ISO=]s were his children. She's also not very much like him in personality either, being a bit overly literal, naive, and excitedly curious about everything while he's more of a cool-headed tinkerer who likes to pull things apart, especially programs. There would be no similar genetics for them to be attracted to either, since she is literally an isomorphic digital construct that was created as a result of the Grid's procedural generation algorithm. And other media like ''Uprising'' hint at sexuality existing for programs, with the ''original movie'' having a cut scene that would have literally shown Tron and Yori meeting for a [[GRatedSex G-rated tryst]]. I think they simply wanted to show Sam and Quorra's relationship in a more realistic light. It appears as if they have the beginnings of a budding romance, but it doesn't end in them ending up together by the end of the movie because they still only met a short time ago.



So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

[[WMG: If Tron 3 ever happens, it'll take place in (or at least show) the original ENCOM system]]
Yori's actress wants to reprise her role if there's ever a sequel, plus a FreezeFrameBonus in Uprising shows that the original system is probably still online, and potentially connected to the TRON system somehow. The DVD extras also hint at someone named "MCTRL_751", who might be [[BackFromTheDead the MCP from the first movie.]] If there's any code of ''him'' left lying around, it'd be somewhere in the ENCOM system.

[[WMG: Yori is alive, and the reason Sam was able to get in.]]
In the original movie, Lora designed the digitization laser, and a keen-eyed viewer can see that Alan's command line interface uses Yori to control the laser. Beyond the simple assumption that Yori would therefore be the driver for controlling the laser in ''Legacy'', we know that Tron was ported over to the new Grid when Kevin was designing it, and it would make sense to bring over his other friends and any useful programs as well.

Given her relationship with Tron and what [=CLU=] did to him, never mind that they she was already friends with Flynn, it seems likely that she'd side with Kevin in his plan to free the system. Flynn's plan basically went like this: Contact Alan, so he can tell Sam about it; wait for Sam to go to the arcade and finds the basement; recruit Sam to fight [=CLU=] and save everyone. In all of this, he'd need a gatekeeper to watch the I/O tower and make sure things went to plan. Given that Yori is already designed to control said gate, Flynn might have sent her into hiding after [=CLU=]'s initial attack to wait for Sam to show up.

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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

[[WMG: If Tron 3 ever happens, it'll take place in (or at least show) the original ENCOM system]]
Yori's actress wants to reprise her role if there's ever a sequel, plus a FreezeFrameBonus in Uprising shows that the original system is probably still online, and potentially connected to the TRON system somehow. The DVD extras also hint at someone named "MCTRL_751", who might be [[BackFromTheDead the MCP from the first movie.]] If there's any code of ''him'' left lying around, it'd be somewhere in the ENCOM system.

[[WMG: Yori is alive, and the reason Sam was able to get in.]]
In the original movie, Lora designed the digitization laser, and a keen-eyed viewer can see that Alan's command line interface uses Yori to control the laser. Beyond the simple assumption that Yori would therefore be the driver for controlling the laser in ''Legacy'', we know that Tron was ported over to the new Grid when Kevin was designing it, and it would make sense to bring over his other friends and any useful programs as well.

Given her relationship with Tron and what [=CLU=] did to him, never mind that they she was already friends with Flynn, it seems likely that she'd side with Kevin in his plan to free the system. Flynn's plan basically went like this: Contact Alan, so he can tell Sam about it; wait for Sam to go to the arcade and finds the basement; recruit Sam to fight [=CLU=] and save everyone. In all of this, he'd need a gatekeeper to watch the I/O tower and make sure things went to plan. Given that Yori is already designed to control said gate, Flynn might have sent her into hiding after [=CLU=]'s initial attack to wait for Sam to show up.
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23rd Mar '17 11:02:02 AM DracoKanji
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* {{Jossed}} hard. Sam's mother was n architect named Jordan Canas. In fact, she designed ENCOM Tower, meaning she had to have been alive before the events of the first movie. She's featured somewhat regularly in ''TRON: Betrayal''.
23rd Mar '17 9:13:14 AM DracoKanji
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Yori's actress wants to reprise her role if there's ever a sequel, plus a FreezeFrameBonus in Uprising shows that the original system is probably still online, and potentially connected to the TRON system somehow. The DVD extras also hint at someone named "MCTRL_751", who might be [[BackFromTheDead the MCP from the first movie.]] If there's any code of ''him'' left lying around, it'd be somewhere in the ENCOM system.

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Yori's actress wants to reprise her role if there's ever a sequel, plus a FreezeFrameBonus in Uprising shows that the original system is probably still online, and potentially connected to the TRON system somehow. The DVD extras also hint at someone named "MCTRL_751", who might be [[BackFromTheDead the MCP from the first movie.]] If there's any code of ''him'' left lying around, it'd be somewhere in the ENCOM system.system.

[[WMG: Yori is alive, and the reason Sam was able to get in.]]
In the original movie, Lora designed the digitization laser, and a keen-eyed viewer can see that Alan's command line interface uses Yori to control the laser. Beyond the simple assumption that Yori would therefore be the driver for controlling the laser in ''Legacy'', we know that Tron was ported over to the new Grid when Kevin was designing it, and it would make sense to bring over his other friends and any useful programs as well.

Given her relationship with Tron and what [=CLU=] did to him, never mind that they she was already friends with Flynn, it seems likely that she'd side with Kevin in his plan to free the system. Flynn's plan basically went like this: Contact Alan, so he can tell Sam about it; wait for Sam to go to the arcade and finds the basement; recruit Sam to fight [=CLU=] and save everyone. In all of this, he'd need a gatekeeper to watch the I/O tower and make sure things went to plan. Given that Yori is already designed to control said gate, Flynn might have sent her into hiding after [=CLU=]'s initial attack to wait for Sam to show up.
29th Sep '16 12:20:00 PM Allronix
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[[WMG: Related to above, Master Control was behind the events of ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'' and ''Film/TronLegacy'' (crossposted to {{Film/Tron}} and Film/TronLegacy)]]

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\n[[WMG: Related to above, Master Control was behind the events of ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'' and ''Film/TronLegacy'' (crossposted to {{Film/Tron}} and Film/TronLegacy)]]
VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh)]]
29th Sep '16 12:18:26 PM Allronix
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*** For the original film, it could be a very strong form of TranslationConvention for the viewer- the characters depicted on-screen representing what the actual programs are doing in-system, but shown as the characters Flynn experienced so hte viewer can identify with what is going on. Likely anything after the original film is running on the far more advanced systems designed by Flynn in the first place.

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*** For the original film, it could be a very strong form of TranslationConvention for the viewer- the characters depicted on-screen representing what the actual programs are doing in-system, but shown as the characters Flynn experienced so hte the viewer can identify with what is going on. Likely anything after the original film is running on the far more advanced systems designed by Flynn in the first place.


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[[WMG: Related to above, Master Control was behind the events of ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'' and ''Film/TronLegacy'' (crossposted to {{Film/Tron}} and Film/TronLegacy)]]

Assume that Master Control was ''defeated,'' but not ''destroyed.'' His "[[TakeOverTheWorld take over the virtual and analog worlds]]" plans had a serious setback. It's not a total loss, though. He's still got piles of embezzled cash from the corporations he took over. He's got access to all kinds of computer networks (which will only increase with the invention of TCP/IP and modern computer networking) plenty of time, ''and'' many, many reasons to have a serious grudge against the Flynn/Baines/Bradley PowerTrio and any of their Programs. So, he waits, lies low, and gathers strength as computing technology improves. Flynn builds The Grid, and it's almost, but ''not quite'' an isolated system (after all, it could still send a signal to Alan's pager). Master Control sees an opportunity, and starts playing [[Film/TheForceAwakens Supreme Leader Snoke to Clu's "Kylo Ren"]], listening to the Administrator's frustrations, being his "[[PoisonousFriend friend]]," [[TheCorrupter making the odd suggestion on what he can do to that careless User and his precious Isos]]...(Remember, Flynn vanishes in ''both'' timelines, making the events of Legacy entirely plausible in 2.0 continuity)

Okay, now Flynn's out of the way, and Tron's not going to be a threat ([[WesternAnimation/TronUprising at least not until after Argon's destroyed]]), time to turn his attention to Alan and Lora. Arrange for an "accident" in the laser lab to take Lora out of the picture (either death or injury, depending on timeline), and keep Alan isolated in one form or another. And all that embezzled corporate cash and company secrets? Let's start making a company of his own, one specializing in "secure" offsite data storage (all the better for him to go snooping). Hire Crown, Baza, and Popoff to be the fronts there, plant Dillinger Junior and J. D. Thorne as [[TheMole moles]] inside Encom, and start setting things up for his minions to get Shiva technology and send their army into {{Cyberspace}} while Clu gears up to try and invade the analog world. Whichever of them succeeds, Master Control wins ''and'' gets revenge. Unfortunately for him, the SpinOffspring are just a little too good at screwing up well-made plans.
31st Aug '16 4:41:35 PM TheTitanPrince
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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.enforcer.

[[WMG: If Tron 3 ever happens, it'll take place in (or at least show) the original ENCOM system]]
Yori's actress wants to reprise her role if there's ever a sequel, plus a FreezeFrameBonus in Uprising shows that the original system is probably still online, and potentially connected to the TRON system somehow. The DVD extras also hint at someone named "MCTRL_751", who might be [[BackFromTheDead the MCP from the first movie.]] If there's any code of ''him'' left lying around, it'd be somewhere in the ENCOM system.
13th Aug '16 2:38:05 PM FordPrefect
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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? '''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? '''And'' ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.
9th Jul '16 11:44:18 AM Allronix
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In ''Film/TronLegacy'', Sam is shown to be adept at breaking and entering, dangerous stunts, and fighting. It's also implied [[EmptyFridgeEmptyLife that he's inward-facing]] as a result of his abandonment issues. It's entirely likely that he ''was'' drawing on User abilities in both the Games and in other combat situations, enhancing his strength, speed, reaction time, and subconsciously "reading" his enemies for weaknesses. It also allowed him to get into places he shouldn't have been able to access - like Clu's control room.

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In ''Film/TronLegacy'', Sam is shown to be adept at breaking and entering, dangerous stunts, and fighting. It's also implied [[EmptyFridgeEmptyLife that he's inward-facing]] as a result of his abandonment issues. It's entirely likely that he ''was'' drawing on User abilities in both the Games and in other combat situations, enhancing his strength, speed, reaction time, and subconsciously "reading" his enemies for weaknesses. It also allowed him to get into places he shouldn't have been able to access - like Clu's control room.room.

[[WMG: Sam wasn't the intended target of the page - Alan Bradley was]]

So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? '''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.
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