History WMG / TronLegacy

31st Aug '16 4:41:35 PM TheTitanPrince
Is there an issue? Send a Message


So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

to:

So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.enforcer.

[[WMG: If Tron 3 ever happens, it'll take place in (or at least show) the original ENCOM system]]
Yori's actress wants to reprise her role if there's ever a sequel, plus a FreezeFrameBonus in Uprising shows that the original system is probably still online, and potentially connected to the TRON system somehow. The DVD extras also hint at someone named "MCTRL_751", who might be [[BackFromTheDead the MCP from the first movie.]] If there's any code of ''him'' left lying around, it'd be somewhere in the ENCOM system.
13th Aug '16 2:38:05 PM FordPrefect
Is there an issue? Send a Message


So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? '''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

to:

So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? '''And'' ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.
9th Jul '16 11:44:18 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


In ''Film/TronLegacy'', Sam is shown to be adept at breaking and entering, dangerous stunts, and fighting. It's also implied [[EmptyFridgeEmptyLife that he's inward-facing]] as a result of his abandonment issues. It's entirely likely that he ''was'' drawing on User abilities in both the Games and in other combat situations, enhancing his strength, speed, reaction time, and subconsciously "reading" his enemies for weaknesses. It also allowed him to get into places he shouldn't have been able to access - like Clu's control room.

to:

In ''Film/TronLegacy'', Sam is shown to be adept at breaking and entering, dangerous stunts, and fighting. It's also implied [[EmptyFridgeEmptyLife that he's inward-facing]] as a result of his abandonment issues. It's entirely likely that he ''was'' drawing on User abilities in both the Games and in other combat situations, enhancing his strength, speed, reaction time, and subconsciously "reading" his enemies for weaknesses. It also allowed him to get into places he shouldn't have been able to access - like Clu's control room.room.

[[WMG: Sam wasn't the intended target of the page - Alan Bradley was]]

So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? '''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.
7th Jun '16 9:32:32 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message
7th Jun '16 9:28:55 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Having lived through Master Control's reign, Yori would have seen the signs - doubly so, given [[WordOfGod Word of Lisburger]] that Programs retain some memories and psychological patterning from their Users. Also, check the first film (especially the DeletedScene), Tron is an excellent fighter, but ''everything else'' - the hideout, the planning, the logistics, the diplomacy, securing ''and'' piloting the getaway vehicle - that was totally Yori. Unfortunately, ''because'' of their Users' history, Clu would know better than to underestimate her, and she possibly outranked Tron on his shit list. Unfortunately, she's not much of a combatant ([[{{Xenafication}} though she probably picked up a few subroutines over the cycles]]), so she specializes in running things in a secret base somewhere while sending out trusted agents when combat is necessary. If Beck survives the end of ''Uprising'', it's likely Yori would have found him (and been none too amused that some barely out of beta punk ripped off her husband's ID), then started teaching him the ''rest'' of the "overthrow nutcase dictator" trade.

to:

Having lived through Master Control's reign, Yori would have seen the signs - doubly so, given [[WordOfGod Word of Lisburger]] that Programs retain some memories and psychological patterning from their Users. Also, check the first film (especially the DeletedScene), Tron is an excellent fighter, but ''everything else'' - the hideout, the planning, the logistics, the diplomacy, securing ''and'' piloting the getaway vehicle - that was totally Yori. Unfortunately, ''because'' of their Users' history, Clu would know better than to underestimate her, and she possibly outranked Tron on his shit list. Unfortunately, she's not much of a combatant ([[{{Xenafication}} though she probably picked up a few subroutines over the cycles]]), so she specializes in running things in a secret base somewhere while sending out trusted agents when combat is necessary. If Beck survives the end of ''Uprising'', it's likely Yori would have found him (and been none too amused that some barely out of beta punk ripped off her husband's ID), then started teaching him the ''rest'' of the "overthrow nutcase dictator" trade.trade.

[[WMG: User abilities will vary depending on the person's personality and skillset (crossposted to {{Film/Tron}} and TronTwoPointOh)]]

While all digitized humans become [[PhysicalGod incredibly powerful]] inside {{cyberspace}}, and have a "base" set of abilities (higher energy storage, more durability), the rest of their powers can vary wildly and reflect who they are as a person in their own world. Flynn was a consummate manipulator (look how fast he was able to talk both his ex and his ex's fiance into a six-felony night or how loyal they are to him even 20 years after he vanishes!), so his abilities reflected that. He manipulated matter (the Recognizer), energy (draining Sark's {{Mook}}, the transport beam), and even pulled a JediMindTrick of sorts on the guard in TronLegacy.

In ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'', Thorne was relatively powerless and frustrated with his life in the human world, and was vulnerable to corruption by F-con, who promised great riches and power. Once he got into the digital one, he instantly indulged both his desire for power and inner corruption by becoming "Master User Thorne," and corrupting a horde of Programs into {{PlagueZombie}}s. On the flip side of the coin, Jethro Bradley did ''everything'' he could to avoid power and his abilities centered on using what was already available (archive bins, downloads), including being able to wield corruption-based weaponry without becoming corrupt himself. The only hint we get about what Alan Bradley may have developed is seen when he is able to analyze the Wraith server's schematics and plot out a plan to take it down from the inside - then again, he wasn't in the system for very long.

In ''Film/TronLegacy'', Sam is shown to be adept at breaking and entering, dangerous stunts, and fighting. It's also implied [[EmptyFridgeEmptyLife that he's inward-facing]] as a result of his abandonment issues. It's entirely likely that he ''was'' drawing on User abilities in both the Games and in other combat situations, enhancing his strength, speed, reaction time, and subconsciously "reading" his enemies for weaknesses. It also allowed him to get into places he shouldn't have been able to access - like Clu's control room.
7th Jun '16 8:54:15 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Finding a badly injured Tron with the help of [[VideoGame/TronEvolution Anon]], Yori started her investigations into helping wherever she could to rescue Flynn and help them stop Clu. Naturally, this is the time of the Purge that leads to the great holocaust of Isos - Alan and Lora arrived too late to see on the Grid interface that Yori in helping Anon and Flynn save a young Quorra, was derezzed. Tron, like Flynn, went into hiding within [[WesternAnimation/TronUprising Argon City]] - but he and Flynn took some of Yori's memories with them in their solitudes until Tron was re-purposed into Rinzler around 2008.

to:

Finding a badly injured Tron with the help of [[VideoGame/TronEvolution Anon]], Yori started her investigations into helping wherever she could to rescue Flynn and help them stop Clu. Naturally, this is the time of the Purge that leads to the great holocaust of Isos - Alan and Lora arrived too late to see on the Grid interface that Yori in helping Anon and Flynn save a young Quorra, was derezzed. Tron, like Flynn, went into hiding within [[WesternAnimation/TronUprising Argon City]] - but he and Flynn took some of Yori's memories with them in their solitudes until Tron was re-purposed into Rinzler around 2008.2008.

[[WMG: Either that, or Yori's leading LaResistance - possibly with [[TronUprising Beck]]]]
Having lived through Master Control's reign, Yori would have seen the signs - doubly so, given [[WordOfGod Word of Lisburger]] that Programs retain some memories and psychological patterning from their Users. Also, check the first film (especially the DeletedScene), Tron is an excellent fighter, but ''everything else'' - the hideout, the planning, the logistics, the diplomacy, securing ''and'' piloting the getaway vehicle - that was totally Yori. Unfortunately, ''because'' of their Users' history, Clu would know better than to underestimate her, and she possibly outranked Tron on his shit list. Unfortunately, she's not much of a combatant ([[{{Xenafication}} though she probably picked up a few subroutines over the cycles]]), so she specializes in running things in a secret base somewhere while sending out trusted agents when combat is necessary. If Beck survives the end of ''Uprising'', it's likely Yori would have found him (and been none too amused that some barely out of beta punk ripped off her husband's ID), then started teaching him the ''rest'' of the "overthrow nutcase dictator" trade.
12th Apr '16 1:53:31 PM PeachLover94
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Kevin Flynn is the Oracle, Clu is the Architect, and Rinzler is Agent Smith.

to:

Kevin Flynn is the Oracle, Clu is the Architect, and Rinzler is Agent Smith.Smith.

[[WMG: Yori was sent to rescue Kevin Flynn and Tron, and was [[BusCrash derezzed]] by Clu and his Black Guards.]]
Immediately after Kevin Flynn got trapped on his new Grid by Clu; Alan Bradley and Lora Baines Bradley secretly took action after custody was awarded to them of Sam. They then attempted in secret to rescue Kevin and Tron if they can. By connecting and then disconnecting Flynn's Grid to the original ENCOM Grid, Lora's program Yori was tasked to rescue them. Connecting both Grids enabled Yori to pass through a temporary portal that took her to the new Grid that had become more dangerous. Once she arrived, Yori began her investigations while in a slightly lighter version of the costume depicted [[http://mikemaihack.deviantart.com/art/Tron-Yori-157360460 here]] - happening upon Clu's coup.

Finding a badly injured Tron with the help of [[VideoGame/TronEvolution Anon]], Yori started her investigations into helping wherever she could to rescue Flynn and help them stop Clu. Naturally, this is the time of the Purge that leads to the great holocaust of Isos - Alan and Lora arrived too late to see on the Grid interface that Yori in helping Anon and Flynn save a young Quorra, was derezzed. Tron, like Flynn, went into hiding within [[WesternAnimation/TronUprising Argon City]] - but he and Flynn took some of Yori's memories with them in their solitudes until Tron was re-purposed into Rinzler around 2008.
25th Mar '16 8:06:40 AM TheOneWhoTropes
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[WMG: If a sequel gets the greenlight, Quorra will become similar to [[GurrenLagann Nia]]]]

to:

[[WMG: If a sequel gets the greenlight, Quorra will become similar to [[GurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Nia]]]]
12th Mar '16 6:41:23 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* Alan would be the ultimate prize. Flynn had more raw talent, but Alan is possibly a ''better'' programmer due to his patience and discipline. [[spoiler: The fact that Clu couldn't completely override Tron's directives after 20 years of tinkering says a ''lot'' about how skilled Alan actually is.]] Flynn was also the big ideas man, but Alan was the guy who turned the big ideas into workable reality. If Clu wanted to TakeOvertheWorld, he would need someone like Alan [[spoiler: (And let's face it, "Rinzler," being a brainwashed drone, wouldn't cut it in that role)]]. Plus, if Rinzler caused Clu any trouble, Alan would be the ultimate insurance. [[spoiler: No matter how BrainwashedAndCrazy Tronzler is, it's not like he's going to allow ''any'' harm to come to his creator/personal deity. And Alan would probably be just as unwilling to allow further harm to come to his virtual "son"]]
24th Feb '16 1:13:51 PM HamMan6789
Is there an issue? Send a Message


The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand or so years planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is mocking young Sam while learning about the surface world. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)

to:

The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin Young!Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless Sam? Unless...that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and so Clu spends the next thousand or so years planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is mocking young Sam while learning about the surface world. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)
* Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him.
This list shows the last 10 events of 246. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=WMG.TronLegacy