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20th May '18 9:46:03 AM nombretomado
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He is obviously [[strike: [[Series/DoctorWho a Timelord]] [[Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}} a Cylon]]]] [[TopGear The Stig]].

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He is obviously [[strike: [[Series/DoctorWho a Timelord]] [[Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}} a Cylon]]]] [[TopGear [[Series/TopGearUK The Stig]].
15th May '18 7:43:40 AM Allronix
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*** Even better theory: Dillenger Snr., after founding Dillenger Systems, discovered the digitization system and attempted his company to create their own. He decided to give it a try himself, only to end up being deconstructed a bit to the point where in order for him to survive, he had to remain inside the computer system (this wouldn't be the first time in the TRON franchise this has happened. In the ''TRON 2.0'' video game, not only did this happen to Thorne (with him becoming a computer virus), but it happened to Lora in the game's timeline as well (Not only is actress Cindy Morgan the voice of Ma3a, the game's hidden lore suggests that Lora had her digitization accident that "killed" her, Alan took the fragments that remained and installed them into Ma3a). So, Dillenger may actually be a User/Program hybrid that can only exist inside the computer system, and is, basically, a User version of the MCP.

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*** Even better theory: Dillenger Snr., after founding Dillenger Dillinger Systems, discovered the digitization system and attempted his company to create their own. He decided to give it a try himself, only to end up being deconstructed a bit to the point where in order for him to survive, he had to remain inside the computer system (this wouldn't be the first time in the TRON franchise this has happened. In the ''TRON 2.0'' video game, not only did this happen to Thorne (with him becoming a computer virus), but it happened to Lora in the game's timeline as well (Not only is actress Cindy Morgan the voice of Ma3a, [=Ma3a=], the game's hidden lore suggests that Lora had her digitization accident that "killed" her, Alan took the fragments that remained and installed them into Ma3a). into[= Ma3a=]). So, Dillenger Dillinger may actually be a User/Program hybrid that can only exist inside the computer system, and is, basically, a User version of the MCP.



*** Except most Grids are connected to the web. Every computer has a Grid in it. However, given that the civilian internet at the time of ''TRON'' wasn't anything to speak of, the MCP attempting to take it over would be an interesting plot, as well as an excuse to show how the Web is represented in Grid form.

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*** Except most Grids are connected to the web. Every computer has a Grid in it. However, given that the civilian internet at the time of ''TRON'' wasn't anything to speak of, the MCP attempting to take it over would be an interesting plot, as well as an excuse to show how the Web is represented in Grid form.
form. We saw an Internet hub in ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'', but that game isn't technically in the same canon.



** Some of Sam's stunts ''definitely'' needed a wingman to pull off. Who better to hold Sam's proverbial beer? To say nothing of the Wild Mass Guess circulating around that Jet somehow had a hand in creating [[WesternAnimation/Tron Uprising Beck]]. If the events of 2.0 ''did'' happen, Jet and Sam would also have very different views about Programs and Users. Remember that Sam saw no "good" Programs with his father (the "good" User) betrayed and murdered by them. Jet was actively working with and helped by Programs in a fight against Thorne and the Datawraiths, meaning he saw mostly good Programs and evil Users.

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** Some of Sam's stunts ''definitely'' needed a wingman to pull off. Who better to hold Sam's proverbial beer? To say nothing of the Wild Mass Guess circulating around that Jet somehow had a hand in creating [[WesternAnimation/Tron Uprising [[WesternAnimation/TronUprising Beck]]. If the events of 2.0 ''did'' happen, Jet and Sam would also have very different views about Programs and Users. Remember that Sam saw no "good" Programs with his father (the "good" User) betrayed and murdered by them. Jet was actively working with and helped by Programs in a fight against Thorne and the Datawraiths, meaning he saw mostly good Programs and evil Users.



[[WMG: CLU wasn't trying to get Sam onto the Grid.]]
The page was sent to Alan Bradley. He was aiming for TRON's creator. Maybe to see if he could create new programs, but probably just as bait, since that's exactly how he used Sam, who was even more effective at it.
* Alan would be the ultimate prize. Flynn had more raw talent, but Alan is possibly a ''better'' programmer due to his patience and discipline. [[spoiler: The fact that Clu couldn't completely override Tron's directives after 20 years of tinkering says a ''lot'' about how skilled Alan actually is.]] Flynn was also the big ideas man, but Alan was the guy who turned the big ideas into workable reality. If Clu wanted to TakeOvertheWorld, he would need someone like Alan [[spoiler: (And let's face it, "Rinzler," being a brainwashed drone, wouldn't cut it in that role)]]. Plus, if Rinzler caused Clu any trouble, Alan would be the ultimate insurance. [[spoiler: No matter how BrainwashedAndCrazy Tronzler is, it's not like he's going to allow ''any'' harm to come to his creator/personal deity. And Alan would probably be just as unwilling to allow further harm to come to his virtual "son"]]

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[[WMG: CLU wasn't trying to get Sam onto the Grid.]]
Alan Bradley was the ''actual'' target]]
The page was sent to Alan Bradley. He was aiming for TRON's creator. Maybe to see if he could create new programs, but probably just as bait, since that's exactly how he used Sam, who was even more effective at it.
* Alan would be the ultimate prize.
it. Flynn had more raw talent, but Alan is possibly a ''better'' programmer due to his patience and discipline. [[spoiler: The fact that Clu couldn't completely override Tron's directives after 20 years of tinkering says a ''lot'' about how skilled Alan actually is.]] That, and Programs don't have the same concept of family as humans; a best friend (assuming we're not talking SlashFic) would be just as good as a son as far as Clu would see it.

So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy whose EstablishingCharacterMoment was pulling a XanatosGambit on ''both'' Master Control and Dillinger? That would be Alan "Alan-1" Bradley.
Flynn was also the big ideas man, but Alan was the guy who turned the big ideas into workable reality. If Clu wanted to TakeOvertheWorld, he would need Alan or someone like Alan [[spoiler: (And let's face it, "Rinzler," being a brainwashed drone, wouldn't cut it in with that role)]]. Plus, if Rinzler caused Clu any trouble, kind of skillset.

Alan would be also solve another issue Clu had; Rinzler. Clu never quite worked the ultimate insurance.bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer. [[spoiler: No matter how BrainwashedAndCrazy Tronzler is, it's not like he's going to allow ''any'' harm to come to his creator/personal deity. And Alan would probably be just as unwilling to allow further harm to come to his virtual "son"]]



[[WMG: Sam wasn't the intended target of the page - Alan Bradley was]]

So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.
15th May '18 7:27:32 AM Allronix
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** Some of Sam's stunts ''definitely'' needed a wingman to pull off. Who better to hold Sam's proverbial beer? To say nothing of the Wild Mass Guess circulating around that Jet somehow had a hand in creating [[WesternAnimation/Tron Uprising Beck]]. If the events of 2.0 ''did'' happen, Jet and Sam would also have very different views about Programs and Users. Remember that Sam saw no "good" Programs with his father (the "good" User) betrayed and murdered by them. Jet was actively working with and helped by Programs in a fight against Thorne and the Datawraiths, meaning he saw mostly good Programs and evil Users.
9th May '18 6:34:37 PM CB2001
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* Maybe Jethro "Jet" Bradley exists in the film's continuity as well. Would make a lot of sense that if the story had continued, Jet could have been worked into things, such as him being the one who supplied Sam info on the Encom Press Conference for Space Paranoids Online (since Jet does work in the gaming division of Encom, there's a good chance he probably copied the memo to Sam's e-mail). It would make sense that if the films had continued, Jet would be the Han Solo to Sam's Luke Skywalker. And unlike Sam's fighting ability, Jet would be more proficient at weapons based more on firearms due to his years of being a gamer.
9th May '18 6:19:15 PM CB2001
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**** Even better theory: Dillenger Snr., after founding Dillenger Systems, discovered the digitization system and attempted his company to create their own. He decided to give it a try himself, only to end up being deconstructed a bit to the point where in order for him to survive, he had to remain inside the computer system (this wouldn't be the first time in the TRON franchise this has happened. In the ''TRON 2.0'' video game, not only did this happen to Thorne (with him becoming a computer virus), but it happened to Lora in the game's timeline as well (Not only is actress Cindy Morgan the voice of Ma3a, the game's hidden lore suggests that Lora had her digitization accident that "killed" her, Alan took the fragments that remained and installed them into Ma3a). So, Dillenger may actually be a User/Program hybrid that can only exist inside the computer system, and is, basically, a User version of the MCP.
28th Mar '18 10:32:29 PM nombretomado
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* It's entirely possible that many Programs [[OnlySixFaces look alike]], especially Programs that came from the same User-Creator, much like the Echani in the StarWarsExpandedUniverse where all same-sex siblings look identical to an outsider. A Program's [[TronLines circuity patterns]] and body language would be used to tell one another apart.

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* It's entirely possible that many Programs [[OnlySixFaces look alike]], especially Programs that came from the same User-Creator, much like the Echani in the StarWarsExpandedUniverse ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' where all same-sex siblings look identical to an outsider. A Program's [[TronLines circuity patterns]] and body language would be used to tell one another apart.
8th Mar '18 8:24:43 PM nombretomado
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** The original film would disprove this idea. Even ''before'' Flynn shows up, Ram was trying to catch Crom up on the basics, and there was a signifigant portion of the film where we were following Tron and Yori, with Flynn otherwise occupied. ''TronUprising'' tosses this one completely out the window, since all the characters are Programs (aside from Quorra and Ada showing up in Paige's flashback, and Cutler's appearances), Flynn's long gone to cower in exile, and the Programs are treated as sentient, living beings.

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** The original film would disprove this idea. Even ''before'' Flynn shows up, Ram was trying to catch Crom up on the basics, and there was a signifigant portion of the film where we were following Tron and Yori, with Flynn otherwise occupied. ''TronUprising'' ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising'' tosses this one completely out the window, since all the characters are Programs (aside from Quorra and Ada showing up in Paige's flashback, and Cutler's appearances), Flynn's long gone to cower in exile, and the Programs are treated as sentient, living beings.



[[WMG: Either that, or Yori's leading LaResistance - possibly with [[TronUprising Beck]]]]

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[[WMG: Either that, or Yori's leading LaResistance - possibly with [[TronUprising [[WesternAnimation/TronUprising Beck]]]]
13th Sep '17 7:55:33 AM MarcusImpudite
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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.

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So, we have Clu, who wants the perfect system, and is reaching the final stage of the bigger plan. He could use some assistance, but a bunch of rectified drones and ass-kissing sycophants simply will not do. Worse, he hasn't quite worked the bugs out on his rectified {{Dragon}}. He has all of Flynn's memories up to the point of his creation. And who was Flynn's right-hand man? His {{Lancer}}? The guy who could take the big ideas and turn them into reality? ''And'' could help work the bugs out of Rinzler? And all it would take is dialing a pager? So maybe he gets Alan, sits him down at a table, discusses an offer he can't refuse, and "sweetens" the deal by showing him "Rinzler." Now, he has a User to assist him, ''and'' the best leverage possible to use against his buggy enforcer.enforcer.

[[WMG: Clu's brute force invasion of the human world would've failed miserably even if they had made it through the portal.]]
[[OneHitPointWonder If your troops shatter like glass from so much as one good hard punch to the face]], you're going to have a hard enough time dealing with human civilians, let alone soldiers, tanks, and fighter jets. They'd be sweeping what's left of Clu's army off the streets by the second day.
20th Jul '17 11:29:51 AM Allronix
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* Perhaps the real threat (which probably evaded the writers) is this; Yes, Clu gets out. He's ultimately beaten back, but not before he's caused several thousand casualties. This blows the whole masquerade about the digital world open. You think cyber-warfare and internet crime is ugly in the real world? Just think of how much worse it would be in the setting of that film! This is also assuming we wouldn't collectively burn our computers and every program on them down to Ada Lovelace's punchcards so that it never happens again.
7th Apr '17 4:54:31 PM nombretomado
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Sometime between Flynn's vanishing act and the events of 2.0, F-Con (Dillinger Sr.) acquired a lot of what should have been proprietary information about the laser. Did Flynn's "in case I vanish" notes and letter get stolen as an act of corporate espionage? Worse, you need to have access to a phone line to contact a pager. So, where did Clu score a modem? There are also the matters of Datawraiths and F-Con personnel (Crown, Popoff, and Baza) who were never retrieved from the system. Top it off with the lock in the arcade basement. The key in the lock was far too shiny to have been sitting there since 1989; someone else had access. Did Clu have some [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog "friends on the other side?"]]

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Sometime between Flynn's vanishing act and the events of 2.0, F-Con (Dillinger Sr.) acquired a lot of what should have been proprietary information about the laser. Did Flynn's "in case I vanish" notes and letter get stolen as an act of corporate espionage? Worse, you need to have access to a phone line to contact a pager. So, where did Clu score a modem? There are also the matters of Datawraiths and F-Con personnel (Crown, Popoff, and Baza) who were never retrieved from the system. Top it off with the lock in the arcade basement. The key in the lock was far too shiny to have been sitting there since 1989; someone else had access. Did Clu have some [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog "friends on the other side?"]]
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