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The Decepticons are all the result of his experiments,hence their animalistic traits and alternate modes.

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The Decepticons are all the result of his experiments,hence their animalistic traits and alternate modes.modes.

[[WMG: If Season 2 has a new BigBad...]]
It'll be Galvatron, who is his own 'Con and not a reincarnation of Megatron, a la the IDW Galvatron.

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[[WMG: Shockwave will be the ManBehindTheMan to Steeljaw and the other escaped Decepticons.]]
The Decepticons are all the result of his experiments,hence their animalistic traits and alternate modes.
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[[WMG: Scrapper will return.]]
* His personality and mind still exist within the group-consciousness of Devastator and is currently trying to manipulate Prowl into reviving him. Prowl has slipped up and referred to a couple of different 'bots now as Scrapper, and is suffering nosebleeds of some effect and privately rages that someone needs to get out of his head; Scrapper's consciousness is the one doing all of this. Somehow, Scrapper will manipulate Prowl into getting a new body (one that is Devastator-compatible) and retake his place within the gestalt, robbing Prowl of both his ability to control the giant and his minions, the other Constructicons, who will rally behind their old pal. The "real life" reason for this is because Devastator is receiving a Titan-class toy that features Scrapper in his usual position as a leg and they need to advertise that.
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Grimlock may have been also involved with Arcee in some way, possibly as a romantic interest. If Grimlock was involved with Arcee before the Great War, like a warrior that she met in Kaon, that could also lead to romantic tension, especially if Grimlock is a criminal on the run; I could see Grimlock being a past flame of Arcee's (and possibly causing her great grief, especially if the last she saw of him was him seemingly to be excecuted), especially if he has a tender side to him.
Granted, this is just speculation, but it's an interesting plot idea, at the very least.
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* [[spoiler:Seems to be confirmed by the leaked Chinese episodes-- Steeljaw assembles a "pack" out of all the other Decepticons that the Autobots defeat.]]




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* Seemingly {{Jossed}} by the above.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, Steeljaw will be some kind of turncoat or WildCard character.]]
Analysis of a single frame of animation in a recent trailer reveals that he has a [[https://33.media.tumblr.com/0d4db44d2c03f0e9869b39553e78638c/tumblr_nh0aihpba61qlhnybo5_500.png scratched-out Decepticon insignia]]. Maybe it's just supposed to emphasise his "wolfishness", but it might also be an indicator of some kind of falling-out with the Decepticon cause on his part. He could end up as the BW Dinobot of the series, or perhaps a 'Con version of Tigatron, having an affinity for the wild and just wanting to be alone with nature.
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[[WMG: Steeljaw will be the de factor "leader" of the earthbound Decepticons.]]

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[[WMG: Steeljaw will be the de factor facto "leader" of the earthbound Decepticons.]]
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[[WMG:Verity Carlo will show.]]
* The Autobots need a TokenHuman ally and it would be fun.
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[[WMG: Steeljaw will be the de factor "leader" of the earthbound Decepticons.]]
It's nothing certain, but I couldn't help but notice that Steeljaw is the only Decepticon to have a confirmed toy in every single size class so far-- something that tends to only happen with really important characters. If he's not a leader, he'll probably at least be one of the guys who, as the creators said at NYCC, has "bigger plans".
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[[WMG:Kup is dying.]]
MTMTE's cybercrosis arc confirmed that Cybertronians can die of old age. Kup is as old as a universe and then some, in addition to being physically dependent on damaging radiation ''and'' corrupted by the Undermind and the Dead Universe. He may be made of {{Badass}}, but it's all adding up.
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[[folder:The 2015 animated series]]
[[WMG: It will end up being ScrewedByTheNetwork]]
With [[Creator/TheHub The Hub's]] conversion to Discovery Family, Hasbro will only have control over the 9:00 am-3:00 pm time slots. This keeps ''Robots in Disguise'' out of the key after-school viewing time essential to grabbing the show's target demographic, let alone the 7:00 pm time slot that ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' enjoyed.
* Did they actually say 9-3 in any of the announcements? I only recall them mentioning that Hasbro had the "daytime" schedule, which is pretty flexible. And besides, they can still at least premiere it on Saturday mornings, which works just fine for MLP.
* {{Jossed}} for being [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed By The Discovery Family]], because Hasbro has decided to have the show air on CartoonNetwork due to being a "top rated network that performed well with boys." However, given Cartoon Network's previous treatment with the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated last Transformers show...]]
** There's a chance things could end up better, though-- first off, Cartoon Network has come under new management since the fiasco with Animated, and if that fails, Hasbro still owns and produces the show in-house. If CN refuses to play nice, they can simply take their business elsewhere. It's far less of a gamble than when Hasbro signed over all production of Animated to Cartoon Network Studios.

[[WMG: Optimus Prime will come back to life, one way or another.]]
It's not ''Transformers'' without Prime. Though he's appearing in visions to Bumblebee, there will come a point where he comes back to life, one way or another.

[[WMG: Starscream is...]]
* The leader of the Decepticons. He managed to grow a pair and subjegate Predaking.
* Dead: Predaking killed him.

[[WMG: The hammerhead shark guy in the trailer is Sky-Byte.]]
He is, after all, a blue shark Decepticon, in a series called [[MythologyGag "Robots in Disguise"]].
* ''Possibly'' {{Jossed}}, as the Kreon version of him gives him the name "Hammerstrike". I say "possibly" because Kre-O doesn't always perfectly copy the current show and is prone to creating original characters.
* Soooooo...no awesome theme song?
** Sadly no. And probably no haikus either.

[[WMG: Reasons for Grimlock's change in personality and allegiance in this series...]]

* LaserGuidedAmnesia
** Not an unlikely prospect-- notice how, when Strongarm calls him a criminal, he replies "I am ''not'' a criminal! ...Or at least, I don't ''think'' I am."
* Deep-cover operation?
* Maybe after Cybertron was restored and Optimus sacrificed himself, Grimlock challenged Bumblebee for leadership of the new world. Knowing Grimlock, this could easily have resulted in a violent struggle, and after being defeated, he was imprisoned alongside the Decepticons.

[[WMG: Grimlock's history will be broadly consistent with Fall of Cybertron and the IDW Prime comics.]]
Mairghread Scott is Script Coordinator for the show, and she also wrote both the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, which were centered on Grimlock and the Dinobots and maintained some impressive ArcWelding with their Fall of Cybertron backstory. It stands to reason that Ms. Scott would strive to make sure what is basically her character remains consistent.

[[WMG: By that same token, Grimlock will face off with Shockwave at some point.]]
Probably in Season 2, since that's when the creators said they wanted to reintroduce characters from Prime. Grimlock would definitely wanna take another bite out of Shockwave if they both end up on Earth at the same time, considering he was the cause of millions of years of torment for the Dinobot.

[[WMG: Grimlock isn't the real Grimlock.]]
He's a dinosaur-shaped Decepticon who ''thinks'' he's Grimlock. Hey, it's already been established that he has memory problems.

[[WMG: Grimlock may be a criminal due to Decepticon experimentation. He may also have some kind of personal connection to one of the other Autobots.]]
He and the other Dinobots could be part of an underground group of Autobots that are attempting to reclaim Cybertron untill Grimlock is eventually captured and forcibly experimented upon by Shockwave, which causes him to crave violence, possibly to the point that he kills or severely mauls an ally (possibly another Dinobot, like Swoop) and attempts a coup-de-grace, which gets Grimlock arrested by Prowl for assault and/or murder, which leads to him getting incarcerated. Grimlock would then be boarded onto a prison vessel, put into cryostasis and sent on his way.

Grimlock may have been also involved with Arcee in some way, possibly as a romantic interest. If Grimlock was involved with Arcee before the Great War, like a warrior that she met in Kaon, that could also lead to romantic tension, especially if Grimlock is a criminal on the run; I could see Grimlock being a past flame of Arcee's (and possibly causing her great grief, especially if the last she saw of him was him seemingly to be excecuted), especially if he has a tender side to him.
Granted, this is just speculation, but it's an interesting plot idea, at the very least.

[[WMG: Grimlock was imprisoned for something he doesn't remember doing, or had no control of himself while doing.]]
The official Hasbro Studios website claims that he was "unjustly imprisoned for his looks"-- this, along with Bumblebee making the distinction in the trailer that Grimlock is a Dinobot and ''not'' an Autobot, suggests that there is some kind of ingrained prejudice against Grimlock and the rest of his kind (which, as it were, is also consistent with the Beast Hunters comics). We know that Grimlock experiences uncontrollable explosions of rage now and then, due to Shockwave's experiments. Maybe, through no fault of his own, he went berserk at some point and caused some kind of serious damage that was used as a reason to finally put him away-- Autobot authorities already hated him for what he was, and this one slip-up gave them an excuse they needed to throw Grimlock in the stockade.
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[[folder:The planned 2015 animated series]]
[[WMG: It will end up being ScrewedByTheNetwork]]
With [[Creator/TheHub The Hub's]] conversion to Discovery Family, Hasbro will only have control over the 9:00 am-3:00 pm time slots. This keeps ''Robots in Disguise'' out of the key after-school viewing time essential to grabbing the show's target demographic, let alone the 7:00 pm time slot that ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' enjoyed.
* Did they actually say 9-3 in any of the announcements? I only recall them mentioning that Hasbro had the "daytime" schedule, which is pretty flexible. And besides, they can still at least premiere it on Saturday mornings, which works just fine for MLP.
* {{Jossed}} for being [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed By The Discovery Family]], because Hasbro has decided to have the show air on CartoonNetwork due to being a "top rated network that performed well with boys." However, given Cartoon Network's previous treatment with the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated last Transformers show...]]
** There's a chance things could end up better, though-- first off, Cartoon Network has come under new management since the fiasco with Animated, and if that fails, Hasbro still owns and produces the show in-house. If CN refuses to play nice, they can simply take their business elsewhere. It's far less of a gamble than when Hasbro signed over all production of Animated to Cartoon Network Studios.

[[WMG: Optimus Prime will come back to life, one way or another.]]
It's not ''Transformers'' without Prime. Though he's appearing in visions to Bumblebee, there will come a point where he comes back to life, one way or another.

[[WMG: Starscream is...]]
* The leader of the Decepticons. He managed to grow a pair and subjegate Predaking.
* Dead: Predaking killed him.

[[WMG: The hammerhead shark guy in the trailer is Sky-Byte.]]
He is, after all, a blue shark Decepticon, in a series called [[MythologyGag "Robots in Disguise"]].
* ''Possibly'' {{Jossed}}, as the Kreon version of him gives him the name "Hammerstrike". I say "possibly" because Kre-O doesn't always perfectly copy the current show and is prone to creating original characters.
* Soooooo...no awesome theme song?
** Sadly no. And probably no haikus either.

[[WMG: Reasons for Grimlock's change in personality and allegiance in this series...]]

* LaserGuidedAmnesia
** Not an unlikely prospect-- notice how, when Strongarm calls him a criminal, he replies "I am ''not'' a criminal! ...Or at least, I don't ''think'' I am."
* Deep-cover operation?
* Maybe after Cybertron was restored and Optimus sacrificed himself, Grimlock challenged Bumblebee for leadership of the new world. Knowing Grimlock, this could easily have resulted in a violent struggle, and after being defeated, he was imprisoned alongside the Decepticons.

[[WMG: Grimlock's history will be broadly consistent with Fall of Cybertron and the IDW Prime comics.]]
Mairghread Scott is Script Coordinator for the show, and she also wrote both the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, which were centered on Grimlock and the Dinobots and maintained some impressive ArcWelding with their Fall of Cybertron backstory. It stands to reason that Ms. Scott would strive to make sure what is basically her character remains consistent.

[[WMG: By that same token, Grimlock will face off with Shockwave at some point.]]
Probably in Season 2, since that's when the creators said they wanted to reintroduce characters from Prime. Grimlock would definitely wanna take another bite out of Shockwave if they both end up on Earth at the same time, considering he was the cause of millions of years of torment for the Dinobot.

[[WMG: Grimlock isn't the real Grimlock.]]
He's a dinosaur-shaped Decepticon who ''thinks'' he's Grimlock. Hey, it's already been established that he has memory problems.

[[WMG: Grimlock may be a criminal due to Decepticon experimentation. He may also have some kind of personal connection to one of the other Autobots.]]
He and the other Dinobots could be part of an underground group of Autobots that are attempting to reclaim Cybertron untill Grimlock is eventually captured and forcibly experimented upon by Shockwave, which causes him to crave violence, possibly to the point that he kills or severely mauls an ally (possibly another Dinobot, like Swoop) and attempts a coup-de-grace, which gets Grimlock arrested by Prowl for assault and/or murder, which leads to him getting incarcerated. Grimlock would then be boarded onto a prison vessel, put into cryostasis and sent on his way.

Grimlock may have been also involved with Arcee in some way, possibly as a romantic interest. If Grimlock was involved with Arcee before the Great War, like a warrior that she met in Kaon, that could also lead to romantic tension, especially if Grimlock is a criminal on the run; I could see Grimlock being a past flame of Arcee's (and possibly causing her great grief, especially if the last she saw of him was him seemingly to be excecuted), especially if he has a tender side to him.
Granted, this is just speculation, but it's an interesting plot idea, at the very least.

[[WMG: Grimlock was imprisoned for something he doesn't remember doing, or had no control of himself while doing.]]
The official Hasbro Studios website claims that he was "unjustly imprisoned for his looks"-- this, along with Bumblebee making the distinction in the trailer that Grimlock is a Dinobot and ''not'' an Autobot, suggests that there is some kind of ingrained prejudice against Grimlock and the rest of his kind (which, as it were, is also consistent with the Beast Hunters comics). We know that Grimlock experiences uncontrollable explosions of rage now and then, due to Shockwave's experiments. Maybe, through no fault of his own, he went berserk at some point and caused some kind of serious damage that was used as a reason to finally put him away-- Autobot authorities already hated him for what he was, and this one slip-up gave them an excuse they needed to throw Grimlock in the stockade.
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The official Hasbro Studios website claims that he was "unjustly imprisoned, for his looks not his deeds"-- this, along with Bumblebee making the distinction in the trailer that Grimlock is a Dinobot and ''not'' an Autobot, suggest that there is some kind of ingrained prejudice against Grimlock and the rest of his kind (which, as it were, is also consistent with the Beast Hunters comics). We know that Grimlock experiences uncontrollable explosions of rage now and then, due to Shockwave's experiments. Maybe, through no fault of his own, he went berserk at some point and caused some kind of serious damage that was used as a reason to finally put him away-- Autobot authorities already hated him for what he was, and this one slip-up gave them an excuse they needed to throw Grimlock in the stockade.

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The official Hasbro Studios website claims that he was "unjustly imprisoned, imprisoned for his looks not his deeds"-- looks"-- this, along with Bumblebee making the distinction in the trailer that Grimlock is a Dinobot and ''not'' an Autobot, suggest suggests that there is some kind of ingrained prejudice against Grimlock and the rest of his kind (which, as it were, is also consistent with the Beast Hunters comics). We know that Grimlock experiences uncontrollable explosions of rage now and then, due to Shockwave's experiments. Maybe, through no fault of his own, he went berserk at some point and caused some kind of serious damage that was used as a reason to finally put him away-- Autobot authorities already hated him for what he was, and this one slip-up gave them an excuse they needed to throw Grimlock in the stockade.
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[[WMG: Grimlock was imprisoned for something he doesn't remember doing, or had no control of himself while doing.]]
The official Hasbro Studios website claims that he was "unjustly imprisoned, for his looks not his deeds"-- this, along with Bumblebee making the distinction in the trailer that Grimlock is a Dinobot and ''not'' an Autobot, suggest that there is some kind of ingrained prejudice against Grimlock and the rest of his kind (which, as it were, is also consistent with the Beast Hunters comics). We know that Grimlock experiences uncontrollable explosions of rage now and then, due to Shockwave's experiments. Maybe, through no fault of his own, he went berserk at some point and caused some kind of serious damage that was used as a reason to finally put him away-- Autobot authorities already hated him for what he was, and this one slip-up gave them an excuse they needed to throw Grimlock in the stockade.
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[[WMG: Grimlock may be a criminal due to Decepticon experimentation. He may also have some kind of personal connection to one of the other Autobots.]]
He and the other Dinobots could be part of an underground group of Autobots that are attempting to reclaim Cybertron untill Grimlock is eventually captured and forcibly experimented upon by Shockwave, which causes him to crave violence, possibly to the point that he kills or severely mauls an ally (possibly another Dinobot, like Swoop) and attempts a coup-de-grace, which gets Grimlock arrested by Prowl for assault and/or murder, which leads to him getting incarcerated. Grimlock would then be boarded onto a prison vessel, put into cryostasis and sent on his way.

Grimlock may have been also involved with Arcee in some way, possibly as a romantic interest. If Grimlock was involved with Arcee before the Great War, like a warrior that she met in Kaon, that could also lead to romantic tension, especially if Grimlock is a criminal on the run; I could see Grimlock being a past flame of Arcee's (and possibly causing her great grief, especially if the last she saw of him was him seemingly to be excecuted), especially if he has a tender side to him.
Granted, this is just speculation, but it's an interesting plot idea, at the very least.
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[[WMG: Grimlock isn't the real Grimlock.]]
He's a dinosaur-shaped Decepticon who ''thinks'' he's Grimlock. Hey, it's already been established that he has memory problems.

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Even though he's currently working for Jhiaxus, Unicron's been lurking around the edges of the comics recently, and assuming Jhiaxus is defeated at the end of Dark Cybertron, Bludgeon will once again switch paymasters to the Chaos Bringer and become his chief herald, since Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge aren't available and already have decidedly non-Unicronian origins in this continuity. It wouldn't be the first time Bludgeon has worked for Unicron, directly or indirectly (He worked for [[TheDragon The Fallen]] in War Within, and served Unicron directly as a Herald in the Armada comics, along with Galvatron, Scourge, Thunderwing, and Dirge).

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* Even though he's currently working for Jhiaxus, Unicron's been lurking around the edges of the comics recently, and assuming Jhiaxus is defeated at the end of Dark Cybertron, Bludgeon will once again switch paymasters to the Chaos Bringer and become his chief herald, since Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge aren't available and already have decidedly non-Unicronian origins in this continuity. It wouldn't be the first time Bludgeon has worked for Unicron, directly or indirectly (He worked for [[TheDragon The Fallen]] in War Within, and served Unicron directly as a Herald in the Armada comics, along with Galvatron, Scourge, Thunderwing, and Dirge).


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[[WMG: Each of the three factions is going to end up with their own combiner.]]
* The Autobots (sort of) have control of Devastator, and Starscream has put Wheeljack to work repairing and rebuilding Superion to defend Cybertron from other combiners. That just leaves the Decepticons, who of course have the Stunticons and their imperfect combined form, Menasor. Menasor will probably be stabilized so that the Stunticons will be able to form him without suffering from the problems Swindle's hamfisted attempt to use combiner technology originally had, which will make him just as dangerous (as the Autobots were able to exploit the weaknesses in Menasor's design to take him down rather easily originally). Then each of the factions will have their own powerful gestalt super-warrior, with Monstructor still out there as a WildCard (because he's too AxCrazy to be controlled by anyone now that Jhiaxus has bit it for good).

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** Not an unlikely prospect-- notice how, when Strongarm calls him a criminal, he replies "I am ''not'' a criminal! ...Or at least, I don't ''think'' I am."
* Deep-cover operation?
* Maybe after Cybertron was restored and Optimus sacrificed himself, Grimlock challenged Bumblebee for leadership of the new world. Knowing Grimlock, this could easily have resulted in a violent struggle, and after being defeated, he was imprisoned alongside the Decepticons.
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[[WMG: Reasons for Grimlock's change in personality and allegiance in this series...]]

* LaserGuidedAmnesia
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** Sadly no. And probably no haikus either.
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* Soooooo...no awesome theme song?
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[[WMG: By that same token, Grimlock will face off with Shockwave at some point.]]
Probably in Season 2, since that's when the creators said they wanted to reintroduce characters from Prime. Grimlock would definitely wanna take another bite out of Shockwave if they both end up on Earth at the same time, considering he was the cause of millions of years of torment for the Dinobot.
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[[WMG: Grimlock's history will be broadly consistent with Fall of Cybertron and the IDW Prime comics.]]
Mairghread Scott is Script Coordinator for the show, and she also wrote both the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, which were centered on Grimlock and the Dinobots and maintained some impressive ArcWelding with their Fall of Cybertron backstory. It stands to reason that Ms. Scott would strive to make sure what is basically her character remains consistent.
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* ''Possibly'' {{Jossed}}, as the Kreon version of him gives him the name "Hammerstrike". I say "possibly" because Kre-O doesn't always perfectly copy the current show and is prone to creating original characters.
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** There's a chance things could end up better, though-- first off, Cartoon Network has come under new management since the fiasco with Animated, and if that fails, Hasbro still owns and produces the show in-house. If CN refuses to play nice, they can simply take their business elsewhere. It's far less of a gamble than when Hasbro signed over all production of Animated to Cartoon Network Studios.
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[[WMG: The hammerhead shark guy in the trailer is Sky-Byte.]]
He is, after all, a blue shark Decepticon, in a series called [[MythologyGag "Robots in Disguise"]].
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** {{Jossed}} for being [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed By The Discovery Family]], because Hasbro has decided to have the show air on CartoonNetwork due to being a "top rated network that performed well with boys." However, given Cartoon Network's previous treatment with the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated last Transformers show...]]

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** * {{Jossed}} for being [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed By The Discovery Family]], because Hasbro has decided to have the show air on CartoonNetwork due to being a "top rated network that performed well with boys." However, given Cartoon Network's previous treatment with the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated last Transformers show...]]
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* Did they actually say 9-3 in any of the announcements? I only recall them mentioning that Hasbro had the "daytime" schedule, which is pretty flexible. And besides, they can still at least premiere it on Saturday mornings, which works just fine for MLP.

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* Did they actually say 9-3 in any of the announcements? I only recall them mentioning that Hasbro had the "daytime" schedule, which is pretty flexible. And besides, they can still at least premiere it on Saturday mornings, which works just fine for MLP.
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** {{Jossed}} for being [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed By The Discovery Family]], because Hasbro has decided to have the show air on CartoonNetwork due to being a "top rated network that performed well with boys." However, given Cartoon Network's previous treatment with the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated last Transformers show...]]
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[[WMG: Optimus Prime will come back to life, one way or another.]]
It's not ''Transformers'' without Prime. Though he's appearing in visions to Bumblebee, there will come a point where he comes back to life, one way or another.

[[WMG: Starscream is...]]
*The leader of the Decepticons. He managed to grow a pair and subjegate Predaking.
*Dead: Predaking killed him.
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* Did they actually say 9-3 in any of the announcements? I only recall them mentioning that Hasbro had the "daytime" schedule, which is pretty flexible. And besides, they can still make it a Saturday morning cartoon.

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* Did they actually say 9-3 in any of the announcements? I only recall them mentioning that Hasbro had the "daytime" schedule, which is pretty flexible. And besides, they can still make at least premiere it a on Saturday morning cartoon.mornings, which works just fine for MLP.

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